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00:00Sous-titrage Société Radio-Canada
00:30...on the ongoing war in the Middle East.
00:32Joined by Canada's Foreign Minister, Anita Adnan,
00:35they'll be discussing the diplomatic deadlock between the US and Iran
00:39after President Trump slammed Iran's counter-proposals as, quote,
00:43totally unacceptable.
00:45And while the European Union celebrated Europe Day on Saturday,
00:50the Kremlin staged its annual Victory Day parade in Moscow.
00:54President Putin defended Russia's full-scale war in Ukraine.
00:58He criticised NATO and also hinted that the conflict could be nearing an end.
01:03We'll debunk his speech.
01:05And Hungary has a new Prime Minister.
01:07In an inauguration ceremony that took a rather lively turn,
01:11Peter Maillard was sworn in to lead the country for the next four years.
01:16Excitement levels were so high that the stage literally turned into a dance floor.
01:20And the World Health Organisation says there's no cause for panic
01:25after a cruise ship linked to the Hansa virus outbreak docked in Tenerife.
01:29Passengers must remain, though, in quarantine for 42 days.
01:34But foreign ministers are huddling, as I said, in Brussels today,
01:37just while Russia's Vladimir Putin has said he's ready to meet Ukraine's President Zelensky
01:42to discuss ending the full-scale war.
01:45For the latest, we can bring in now our Ukraine correspondent, Sasha Vakilina.
01:49Sasha, is there any evidence to back up this statement,
01:52where Putin said that he's ready to end the war?
01:54None whatsoever in a nutshell, because he also continued saying that
01:58he believes victory has always been Russia's and will always be.
02:03So probably what Vladimir Putin meant when he addressed the parade on the 9th of May
02:08was the way he sees the ending of his full-scale invasion of Ukraine has not changed.
02:14He still wants Russia to win there,
02:17which is also interesting given the fact that he actually gave that speech
02:21expressing that confidence that victory will be for Russia
02:24at the parade, which had no heavy military equipment in a very scaled-down format.
02:30And also the parade, the ceasefire upon which was only possible thanks to Donald Trump.
02:36And tell me, was there anything new in the statement that he said, apart from that?
02:40There were a couple of aspects.
02:41And first of all, there was the fact that Putin actually said that
02:44he would be willing somehow to meet Volodymyr Zelensky.
02:49This is the first time that he actually says it.
02:52And there are a few interesting things about it.
02:53First of all, even the fact that he admitted that he would be willing to do so,
02:58because for years now Putin has not been even recognizing Zelensky as president of Ukraine.
03:05So that's already a new thing there.
03:07And also he said that the meeting could possibly take place in a third country.
03:12And this is indeed crucial.
03:15Now, Putin said a meeting in a third country is also possible,
03:19but only once final agreements have been reached on a peace treaty
03:22for a long-term historic perspective, to take part in this event and sign a treaty.
03:26But it must be a final step.
03:30Now, one of the countries that I would like to mention right now would be Azerbaijan.
03:34Because on the 25th of April, Volodymyr Zelensky visited Azerbaijan.
03:38And standing there next to President Ali, he actually said that he would be willing to meet
03:42with Putin in Azerbaijan.
03:44So there is this possibility there.
03:47And another thing is that Putin also said that he doesn't mind having an EU negotiator
03:53to help get closer to that moment.
03:57He did specify that there could be any leader, according to him,
04:00who has not said any, quote, nasty things about Russia, unquote.
04:06And then he did float the idea of who could that be
04:09and who he wants to see as a negotiator.
04:11And here, he knows very well that that candidate is a no-go both for Ukraine
04:16and for the European Union.
04:17And Sasha Vakilin, that candidate you're mentioning, of course,
04:20is the former German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder.
04:22Putin has said that he could be the right mediator in the Russia-Ukraine peace talks.
04:26And we want to hear now how Germans have been reacting to this idea
04:30so we can head straight over to Berlin and bring in our correspondent, Laura Fleischmann.
04:35Good morning, Laura.
04:36Can you just remind our viewers this morning who Gerhard Schroeder is and why?
04:40Vladimir Putin likes him so much.
04:44Good morning to you, too.
04:46And well, with Schroeder, Putin brings one of the most prominent
04:49and also most controversial political figures in Germany into play.
04:53Schroeder was the German Chancellor, a Social Democrat Chancellor, from 1998 until 2005.
04:59And the relationship, the friendship between Putin and Schroeder goes way back.
05:04They've been friends even before his chancellorship.
05:06And during his time in office, they went to the sauna oftentimes together.
05:09This really shows how close they were.
05:11They visited each other's birthday parties.
05:13And Schroeder also called Putin a flawless Democrat.
05:17Some, however, called Schroeder one of the most important lobbyists of Putin and Russia here in Europe.
05:23But what is even more interesting is what happened after Schroeder's time in office.
05:27He started working for multiple Russian state energy companies, such as Gazprom, Nord Stream 2, and also for Rosneft,
05:35which is now on the EU sanctions list.
05:37And he kept on defending his friendship to Putin, with Putin,
05:41stating that it might end the war between Russia and Ukraine,
05:47and that he even tried to mediate between both parties.
05:50In 2022, he went to Istanbul and Moscow on his own without consulting the German government.
05:56However, this mediation attempt ended up failing.
05:59So it does come to no surprise that Russia and Putin are now floating the idea of Schroeder potentially mediating.
06:07And what is even more interesting is the timing of this proposal.
06:10Just recently, the EU Council President Antonio Costa stated that there might come a time
06:15when the EU and Russia will need to talk directly, to engage directly.
06:20However, he quickly added that now is not the time.
06:22So against this backdrop, it seems that Putin tries to influence the EU and tries to put pressure on
06:29in order to decide who is sitting at the table and when.
06:33And Laura, what have the reactions been to this in Germany?
06:36Are people taking this seriously?
06:40Well, the short answer is not really.
06:43The German government immediately rejected the proposal, stating that the offer is a sham.
06:49And furthermore, they added that it is part of the hybrid strategy of Russia,
06:53trying to further divide the European Union.
06:55And there is already some division taking place here in Germany.
06:58The SPD, the party of Gerhard Schröder, stated that one should at least be open to the idea of him
07:05being a mediator.
07:06That is what the Speaker of Foreign Relations of the SPD stated.
07:10But in the past, the former party co-president of the SPD stated that Schröder is not really a statesman
07:19anymore
07:19and that he is more of a businessman pursuing his business interests.
07:23But what is even more important is whether Ukraine would even accept Schröder as a potential mediator,
07:29which is, of course, unlikely, since Ukraine will likely not see Schröder as a neutral who serves both sides.
07:36So to summarise, Berlin sees this more as a political act and less as a genuine peace initiative.
07:42Laura Fleischmann, thank you so much for that live update there from the German capital.
07:47This is a topic, of course, that will be making an appearance at the EU Foreign Affairs Council meeting taking
07:52place today.
07:53For the view now from the Swedish government, I'm joined now on set by Sweden's Minister for Foreign Affairs,
07:59Maria Malmer-Steunergaard.
08:00Great to have you back with us here on Europe Today.
08:02Good morning.
08:03Thank you. Good morning.
08:03So you're hearing these reports this morning of Gerhard Schröder potentially mediating between Ukraine and Russia.
08:09Would you trust him?
08:11Well, I want to begin in another end.
08:13I think the main problem is that Russia is not really interested in peace.
08:18They are trying different manoeuvres, but we need to keep our focus where it needs to be,
08:24and that is on increasing the pressure on Russia and increasing the support for Ukraine.
08:29So there's a lot more to be done, and these are things that will be discussed today.
08:33But yet Antonio Costa has been saying recently that it is perhaps time to talk to Russia.
08:39We're hearing names floated like Emmanuel Macron or Georgia Maloney or Pedro Sanchez.
08:43Which person would you like to see?
08:45I'm not there yet.
08:47I think that sooner or later we will have to talk to Moscow.
08:52But since Putin is not really interested in any serious peace talks,
08:57then I think we should, like I said, focus on changing the calculus to make him interested in that.
09:03And then we will have a discussion about how the forms should be.
09:08How do you change the calculus?
09:09That's the question.
09:10Yes.
09:10So we need to increase the pressure on Russia.
09:13There is a lot more to be done on sanctions.
09:15I need to see the full service maritime ban.
09:19And that is something that should be in a 21st sanctions package.
09:23And then we need to increase the support for Ukraine.
09:27I'm very pleased that we agreed upon the 90 billion euro loan.
09:31But this cannot be an excuse to do less bilaterally.
09:36So we need to continue to support Ukraine bilaterally and then add those 90 billions.
09:42Then that will make Ukraine a lot stronger.
09:45And we see how Russia is getting weaker and weaker, having problems recruiting new soldiers.
09:52And look at the big victory day.
09:55That was a very small victory day with no display of military hardware because the Kremlin was afraid of Ukrainian
10:04drones.
10:05And just bring us inside the council meeting today.
10:07How has the mood changed with the new government in Hungary and a new Hungarian foreign minister, Anita Orban?
10:12And she won't be there today physically because she's having her hearing.
10:15But of course, will things change now when it comes to Ukraine?
10:19Well, I think there are a lot more smiles in the room nowadays.
10:25And better possibilities for Europe to be stronger and to act more swiftly, which is absolutely necessary, not only to
10:33help Ukraine,
10:34but also to make sure that the EU becomes a stronger geopolitical player, geopolitical player.
10:42And yes, I'm very hopeful that with the new Hungarian government, we will be able to make those decisions that
10:50are absolutely needed for Ukraine.
10:53But we'll see what happens in Bulgaria.
10:55And on your plates, of course, today, the diplomatic deadlock between the US and Iran.
10:59And it feels sometimes like the EU is just staring at the Strait of Hormuz with absolutely no say in
11:05the matter and just hoping the problem will go away.
11:08Well, we are preparing for the next phase.
11:13So once we have a lasting ceasefire or a peace, then that is the time when Europe should bring assets
11:20and make sure that we keep the Strait open,
11:24because that is so important for international trade and also for our growth.
11:28But we are not going to enter this war during these circumstances.
11:34But we are preparing.
11:35And that is very important because we want to contribute.
11:38You want to contribute.
11:39And of course, you're opening a spy agency, I believe, in Sweden as a reaction to the full-scale war
11:43in Ukraine.
11:44Tell us about that.
11:45And do you have the voters on board, given this year you have big elections as well in Sweden?
11:48We have big elections.
11:49There is going to be a vote this summer on the new agency.
11:53I am convinced that this is something that should have been done a long time ago.
11:58We are now members of NATO.
12:00We align ourselves much more with the services of other countries.
12:04We need to develop technology a lot more, become better at looking into open source intelligence.
12:11And all of that is on the plate of the new agency.
12:15And on those elections taking place, Israel-Sweden relations will also play a big role.
12:21We know that Sweden did recognize the state of Palestine, but this decision could be reversed.
12:24Which camp are you in here?
12:26No, I think that we should not reverse that.
12:28I mean, we made our decision and people should be able to trust our decisions when it comes to foreign
12:33policy.
12:34So I don't see that there will be a change in that regard.
12:38However, I see the necessity to put more pressure on Israel because we are so worried about the development in
12:43Gaza.
12:44Not a lot of focus there right now because there is so much going on in the rest of the
12:49world.
12:50But the situation is still horrible for people living there.
12:54And the situation on the West Bank is deteriorating.
12:57So we need to put more pressure on it.
12:58And today you could sign off on sanctions on violent settlers in Israel.
13:02I hope we will be able to do that.
13:04But we should also move forward with sanctions on extremist ministers in the Israeli government.
13:10OK, Minister, a lot, of course, on your plates today at that foreign ministers' meeting, as always.
13:15Thank you so much for coming in to us.
13:17But now, moving on, Brussels is still digesting the outcome of the local elections in the UK last week
13:23that saw the former Brexiteer Nigel Farage rise through the ranks.
13:27Ten years on since the Brexit referendum, the question now is what this result will mean for EU-UK ties
13:32and, of course, the political future of Labour's Keir Starmer.
13:35Our Jakub Janus takes a look.
13:39To the victor go the spoils.
13:41Nigel Farage's pro-Brexit Reform UK party became the biggest winner of last week's English local elections,
13:47gaining over 1,400 council seats.
13:50We have absolutely stormed it.
13:53These are historic results.
13:55And as they were mostly gained from Labour, all attention turned to its leader.
14:00And I take responsibility.
14:02When voters send a message like this, we must reflect and we must respond.
14:10But is his time in number 10 already on the clock?
14:15Despite a massive Westminster majority,
14:18last Thursday's local election buttering has left Starmer on notice.
14:22And, ironically, this majority makes him easier to criticise.
14:26His own party members feel safe breaking rungs
14:29because the government is not at immediate risk of falling.
14:33And ousting a Labour leader is much harder than a Tory.
14:36According to the Labour Party rulebook,
14:38rivals need 81 MPs to go public, just to trigger a vote.
14:43And while the trade unions and party members stay quiet,
14:47Starmer holds a structural shield that makes him safer than the headlines suggest.
14:52And with Britain's economy hurt post-Brexit,
14:55Starmer is pursuing a high-stakes pivot.
14:58At a recent summit in Armenia,
15:00he opened talks to join the EU 90 billion euro loan for Ukraine.
15:04And it seems to be a cash-for-play strategy.
15:07The UK helps to pay the interest
15:09in exchange for British defence firms accessing EU contracts.
15:13Ultimately, Starmer's future depends on how the next election is framed.
15:17If the conversation stays on the economy and closer ties to the EU,
15:22he's more likely to stay in power
15:24because public sentiment on Brexit has soured.
15:26But if the framing shifts to migration,
15:29Nigel Farage and Reform UK hold the advantage.
15:33And for now, the English public is left to see
15:35whether his grand vision for the country
15:37can survive a stark reality of local politics.
15:45Jakob Janis there on a story that's been closely watched here from Brussels.
15:50But now, just over one month or under one month after historic elections,
15:54Hungary's new Prime Minister, Béter Maillard,
15:56was sworn in on Saturday in Budapest,
15:58bringing an end to Viktor Orbán's 16 years in power.
16:02Tens of thousands of Hungarians gathered outside
16:05the iconic Parliament building in Budapest to celebrate the moment.
16:08For more now on what challenges face the new Prime Minister,
16:11I'm joined by our Hungarian correspondent, Sándor Zíros.
16:14So we're looking at those pictures there
16:16that quite frankly resemble a festival or a big, huge party,
16:19but huge expectations now on Béter Maillard.
16:22Their voters are euphoric,
16:23but the question, will he be able to deliver?
16:25Tell us more about this moment.
16:27Well, good morning.
16:28As you said, Béter Maillard made sure
16:30that everyone in Hungary during the weekend
16:32talks about his inauguration.
16:34They made a huge show, a huge festival out of these events.
16:39There was a children's corps playing in the chamber.
16:42Some deputies were crying.
16:44The minister was dancing.
16:46Béter Maillard made even the DJ.
16:48And then overnight there was a huge festival,
16:51a huge fiesta celebrating the end of the Orbán's government
16:55and the start of the new government.
16:58Now for the substance,
16:59Béter Maillard said that this is not a simple change of government,
17:03but a change of system and he's opening a new era
17:06in the Hungarian history.
17:09He criticized Orbán for his corruption
17:11and he warned for investigations against him.
17:16He also called for resignation of the Hungarian president,
17:20Tamás Súlyok, whom he called a puppet of Orbán.
17:23And he called for a new style of governance in Hungary.
17:29Let's take a listen of what he said.
17:35A country can be lifted up
17:36by a few courageous and honest decisions,
17:39but it can also be destroyed by selfishness and arrogance.
17:43That is precisely what I would like to state clearly here
17:46in the House of Hungarian Democracy and Constitutionalism,
17:49that I will not rule over Hungary.
17:51I will serve my country.
17:52I will serve my country.
17:55I'm very enthusiastic.
17:56Béter Maillard there, the new prime minister of Hungary.
17:59But Sander, what about Viktor Orbán?
18:00What is his legacy?
18:01He seems to have just disappeared from the political sphere.
18:04Exactly.
18:05He seems a little bit disappearing.
18:07And I feel like he's not taking this electoral defeat very lightly.
18:12So, for example, on Saturday, he was supposed to be in the parliament having his farewell speech
18:17and handing over the power in person to Peter Maillard, but he didn't show up.
18:22He's also not taking his parliamentary mandate, which is highly unusual and not traditional in many aspects.
18:30But Orbán wants to continue his fight.
18:34He wants to stay as the head of the Fidesz Party.
18:37He wants to reorganize Fidesz Party.
18:40But there are cracks already on his legacy.
18:43And what we call the Orbán system is already cracking.
18:47There are many investigations running already against his associates,
18:52for example, for corruption or misuse of power.
18:55Many of his associates are trying to change sides and trying to get connected to the new government.
19:03And what is really remarkable, Orbán's media machine is largely silenced.
19:09All of these pro-Orbanist voices in the Hungarian media are disappearing.
19:14OK, Sander Zeros, thank you so much for those insights.
19:17And we can read, of course, longer reads from Sander Zeros on the challenges now facing Peter Maillard.
19:22But that does bring this Monday's edition of Europe Today to an end.
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