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00:13I read the contracts. I negotiate with the brands back and forth. Do you know how long
00:17negotiation takes so that we can get paid what we get paid? I do because I do it too.
00:22It's not just you. Once in a while. Everything that I do. Sorry I'm shouting. There's frustration
00:28there isn't it? That's what it is. I understand. I'm so sorry. But what if I started doing crazy stuff
00:32out of frustration? Yeah and I can handle anything. Period. That's why I'm handling this conversation
00:36so easy. Before you decide on marriage why are you two even together? Let's have a think about that.
00:51So is it business? Is it love? Is it dependency?
00:57What is it? I love her. I don't think anyone will love me the same way she does and understands
01:05me the same way she does. I know it's love. This sort of interface between work, your professional
01:16lives and your personal lives and you just it's all mixed up. And sometimes we get lost
01:23and yeah and that. You do yeah. Yeah. So let's wrap up these sessions. Let's think about what we've
01:29covered here. We know that you've got different views on marriage. What is marriage? How is marriage?
01:37What does it what's it look like? But as we all know marriage can be tailored to suit you too
01:42and that's something that you can think about. And we know that actually business and home life and
01:50personal relationship all get mixed up together. So there's room for splitting those up a bit,
01:58being a bit clearer, having conversations about what's what. We also know that you actually love each
02:03other. Not just because you're in business together, not just because you're too dependent on each other,
02:10because actually there is a love still there. Take it away, talk to each other, think about it and work
02:18with it. Okay. Man this whole experience therapy thing has been a lot ups and downs, but overall I think
02:30it like got us closer. I don't think necessarily my opinion has changed on marriage, but I think
02:36that Maria has heard me and what I had to say. And now it's just all about the hard work.
02:40I know I'm
02:41not going to give up and I hope she doesn't give up. And yeah, I'm looking forward to our next
02:46chapter.
02:48Thank you both very much. Thank you for your help. Thank you. It was nice meeting you. Take care.
02:53Thank you very much. Take care. Bye bye. Bye. I've learned that Victor also has things of which he wants
03:02to,
03:02you know, share and open up to me about. And I hear that I received that, you know, but I'm
03:08the whole
03:09marriage goal thing. I'm not going to lie to you. Like I'm not changing my whole entire self just to
03:14get
03:14that. Like, no, that needs to come from the heart, from the love. I want to feel fully seen and
03:20fully
03:20fulfilled in our relationship. And we'll see. You never know. I might be engaged one day or we might
03:28be broken up one day. Who knows? Just got to do what's right for me. That's, I feel like that's
03:33the
03:33one thing I've learned for therapy. I've just got to do what's right for me.
03:59How are you? I'm fine. How are you?
04:01Tired. Lots of food. Do you know how late you are? I know. I can do anything. I tried.
04:10I tried my best. I tried my best. That's not funny. You're meant to spend quality time with
04:21me. Me being here is a lot. It's, you know. I feel like you're not being, like, very open
04:28in a session. But I feel like you're holding back. I mean, there was one thing, you know.
04:33What? It was just a brief comment that my mum, my mum made. Okay. Okay, she basically just
04:41said, I don't know if Debbie's the one for you now in your life, you know.
04:47But why are you brushing it off like that's not a big deal? I thought it was just like a
04:52comment.
04:54I feel like that's a very unacceptable comment for your mum to make about our relationship.
05:00But this is what I'm saying. I knew me telling you it was going to cause this.
05:02Call her. Okay.
05:08This is some bollocks.
05:13Wow. You okay?
05:16Yeah, what's up?
05:17Um, I'm with Debbie now.
05:20Uh-huh.
05:21Um, and she wants to talk to you.
05:24Okay.
05:25I'm just going to put your last speaker. You guys chop it up.
05:30Hello, Mum.
05:31Yes, darling.
05:32Kelvin said that you think I'm not the one for him at the moment.
05:37Uh-huh.
05:40Um, you know why I said that, Deb? Because, you know, you complain about it.
05:45You think he hasn't got time for you. But you know why he hasn't got time for you.
05:48You know that he's doing this for the future.
05:51Do you not see me around Kelvin five days a week? Do I not always come to the shop to
05:55help him?
05:55I do. I do. I do.
05:57So that's why I find it upsetting that you're telling him that I'm not the one for him.
06:02When I've been here for how long? Years? No, no, no.
06:05And I stood beside him.
06:08It's been too long for you to, you know, there's too much at stake for you to walk away.
06:12So be there. Through thick and thin.
06:17You should have come to talk to me, just to be like, you know what, let me speak to you,
06:21you know, give me some advice.
06:24If you want this thing to work, you need to chill.
06:28Good.
06:31You get me?
06:33OK, Mum.
06:34OK, darling.
06:35Talk to you later.
06:36OK, bye.
06:37Bye, bye.
06:42OK?
06:43I just feel like your mum shouldn't get involved and say things like that.
06:59Carmen and Junior have used therapy to discuss some very, very, very difficult issues they've been having.
07:05Their biggest block to real communication is Carmen's insistence on the fourth child, whilst Junior has been clear that for
07:13him the family is complete.
07:15This couple now have to navigate the breach of trust that the vasectomy has created.
07:21After 20 years together, the question is, can they find a way back?
07:30Thank you for coming back.
07:33So this is our last session.
07:35And I thought we would start with a bit of a recap of what we have managed to cover.
07:42For you, Junior, you've talked a lot about wanting more affection, wanting to be seen by Carmen.
07:48And Carmen, you've talked a lot about not being heard, big decisions not being shared.
07:54Then we moved on to the vasectomy that was done without really negotiating.
08:00And the revelation that actually the sperm hadn't been frozen.
08:05And how that left you feeling, Carmen.
08:09Devastated.
08:12OK.
08:13I felt betrayed. Like, you know, I didn't...
08:17It's not like I knew about any of this.
08:18I don't feel like I've betrayed Carmen.
08:22I feel like it's quite a heavy word to use to describe the scenario.
08:27I mean, that's how I feel. That's how I've felt, so...
08:31OK.
08:32You know.
08:33Like, I've never had anything like this in our relationship before, where I've felt like such a lack of trust.
08:40OK.
08:42I don't know what we can do moving forward.
08:44And at this point, I'm not even 100% sure if Junior does want to have more kids, so...
08:49I don't want to have more kids right now. I've made that very clear.
08:52And now I'm being spoken to, like, I've betrayed you.
09:00OK.
09:02I want to focus on us, right?
09:05And now... I want to focus on us too.
09:07So let's just do that then.
09:08You've made yourself very clear and I respect and appreciate how you feel.
09:12I just feel like we've got other things to work on right now.
09:15And I feel like we need to work on our relationship and focus on that, you know?
09:21Something that I was left with, Junior, you mentioned how devastated you had been at the break-up.
09:27And you were never going back there.
09:30You were never going to feel that bereft again.
09:33And the question is, is the vasectomy a way of taking back control?
09:37I would say that, yeah, I guess it probably is.
09:42Because I don't want to ever feel what I felt before.
09:45I don't ever want to be in that position, you know?
09:47What, vulnerable?
09:48I don't want to be vulnerable. I don't want to be, you know, devastated.
09:52I don't want to go through what I went through again.
09:54When me and Carmen broke up, it was very difficult for me.
09:58I went to a very dark place and I didn't feel loved, obviously.
10:02I want our relationship to be about us, not just about how and when we can make babies.
10:10You know, it's important to me that she shows me that she loves me.
10:17What about you, Carmen? What Junior is saying? Does that make sense to you?
10:21Yeah, it does. Because I feel like a lot of this has been about me having a fourth child.
10:26I also do want you to know that I am appreciative of you and that I love you and that
10:33you are an amazing husband, an amazing father and so important to me.
10:39And I kind of want to show you that it's not just about having a fourth child, like that's not
10:45the only thing that I care about.
10:48So, as much as that was a priority for me, I feel like this has really taught me to listen
10:55more to my partner's feelings too, as opposed to just my own feelings and just sort of powering through of
11:03what I want.
11:03And so that's been really helpful for me.
11:07I'm very grateful that Carmen has said that. It means a lot. And I think I need to see it.
11:14You know, I just need to see and feel what she's saying over the next 12 months.
11:19And after feeling appreciated and feeling like she sees me and, you know, she is really about me and her,
11:27my feelings towards additional members of the family might completely change.
11:31Let's focus on us for a year and then we can revisit potentially maybe reversing the vasectomy.
11:37Carmen.
11:38I just want everything to be transparent moving forward.
11:43Resentment builds when nobody is listening.
11:46So you have to be able to communicate what you're feeling resentful, what you're feeling angry about.
11:52I think what we went through before, I got to know myself a lot more through that break and realised,
11:59you know, when you go quiet and you stop communicating, you're actually just being defensive and trying to protect yourself.
12:05So I've given Carmen that trust and I've said to myself, I don't need to protect myself around this person.
12:12I can be open.
12:14Kind of.
12:16Apart from one subject.
12:18Apart from one subject.
12:19OK, kind of.
12:20Apart from one subject.
12:21I can see where I was wrong.
12:23Do you really?
12:23Yeah.
12:24OK, good.
12:25I feel like we need to continue with therapy.
12:29We need to, you know, take your advice.
12:32Like, I feel like there's a lot more work that needs to be done here.
12:36You've both been going alongside each other and you need to sort of make intentional moves to bridge that, to
12:42meet each other in the way, to keep going, keep that communication open. Would you agree?
12:47Yeah.
12:47Definitely.
12:49OK.
12:50Our time has ended.
12:52Thanks.
12:53Thank you, Karen.
12:54Thank you for all your help.
12:55Thanks for your help.
12:56You're welcome.
12:56We appreciate it.
12:58This has definitely been a journey.
13:03But I feel like it was 100% needed and I definitely would not have found out certain things had
13:10we not have done this.
13:12But if anything like this ever happened again, I would have to seriously question if this relationship is for me.
13:21But Junior's my soulmate and I think we just need to communicate a lot better and be honest with ourselves
13:32and with each other.
13:33The future is hopeful.
13:39The reason why I came here was to save our marriage. And moving forward, I definitely will not be behaving
13:47in that way again, in terms of like hiding stuff from her. Carmen means the world to me. She's my
13:54childhood sweetheart. So I think we'll be able to get through the hurdles ahead.
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14:27what is this let's talk about the last session let's talk you know what i feel like when you
14:35haven't had kids you're like planning the future and stuff you say oh i want a big family blah
14:39blah blah like when you actually have a kid and you understand what it is to have a kid
14:45bro it's not it's nothing like what i thought it'd be i'm telling you as well on a level
14:51like i'm not just having one kid i'm i'm not going to have more kids than i can handle on
14:57my own i
14:58only want to have the amount of kids that i know that if everything went to i can handle this
15:03yeah
15:04i can't like i'm one and done like on a level for real for all i don't think i could
15:09do it again
15:10if that's what you're saying then no honestly because for me because i already told you that's
15:16deal breaker for me i'll be so honest like but then what are we doing here i don't know
15:37the main issues between this couple is kelvin's blindness to the need for the relationship to be
15:45given attention he grew up in a household where mum just worked to keep the family together he's
15:50unconsciously reenacting that but he doesn't have to do that what he needs to know is that he can have
15:56his business and a relationship they can coexist whether this relationship survives comes down to
16:03one thing their willingness to find a compromise hello debbie hello hi hello kelvin hello welcome
16:14back to our last session together i know you're comfortable yes i do remember giving you some
16:24homework homework how did that go i was gonna cook for debbie at mine it fell on the day where
16:32arsenal were playing the last game of the season so he left me waiting i think it was like an
16:38hour
16:38and a half late yeah did you tell debbie that you were gonna be late you didn't tell me you're
16:43going to the arsenal match yeah are you not understanding that's not how you communicate with your
16:46partner and keep her waiting an hour and 30 minutes but i still came anyways we can get got there
16:55i got
16:56there i was i came i cooked we spoke a bit started cooking we had a little bit of an
17:02argument
17:05okay take me through this
17:09what did you tell me while you was cutting your onions
17:13so there was a comment my made she was just saying on the phone that you know i don't think
17:17debbie's the one for you right now try and sort of navigate your life his mom has gone to him
17:23and
17:23said i don't think debbie's the one because she's putting pressure on you she's saying you're too busy
17:28you need to run your business that's what's happening and now it's not just my mom's influence
17:33it's also reality no it's your mom's influence and there shouldn't be all this delusion going on of
17:40you know debbie's not the one i do think your mom is a bit jealous
17:47i know she's not his mom has to be jealous because why would you say you think i'm not the
17:56one for
17:56your son i think she believes i'm taking her spot but at the end of the day you're his mom
18:03you're not
18:04going to marry kelvin so i feel like she just needs to have a bit of boundaries kelvin will never
18:11admit
18:12that i am her only boy when a mom is advising their child is i understand 27 you're you're you're
18:21a
18:21grown man i'll always be her child you know until both of us go on the ground she's coming from
18:26a good
18:28place how would you feel about going forward with kelvin if if mum didn't approve of the the union if
18:34you was to be my husband or you wanted to marry me as your wife i would expect you to
18:40stand up for me
18:41with things like that i wouldn't want to marry into a family where your mom doesn't approve yeah never
18:50she shouldn't have said it my mom shouldn't have said it but with that being said i understand where
18:54she was coming from i think she was coming from a place of just being a mom you know always
19:00looking
19:00out for her son so i think she just kind of wanted to protect myself my dream my mom i
19:08know her
19:08she wants to sort of meddle and get involved that's her character i've accepted it you know
19:14complete delusion losing me kelvin sleepless nights and once i'm gone never coming back and you know
19:22this so where does this leave you what do you want what don't you want what can you do what
19:30can't
19:30you do let's make it i want i want to focus on this business so where does that leave the
19:36relationship
19:43if he wants to pursue me as his girlfriend or prove to me that he wants me he needs to
19:49just put in
19:50that effort i don't want him to just feel comfortable i know i'm going to see debbie on monday because
19:54she's coming to the shop so i'm going to take a cr yeah on helping you with all your business
20:00stuff
20:00and just leave that to you i think it's quite a healthy solution because it's separating business
20:08and your relationship and whether you can make that space in your head for the thought that
20:17actually there is a relationship i need to feed it i need to think about it i need to be
20:24in it
20:24sometimes in the week yeah i love a challenge so because sometimes i feel like he's confusing
20:33seeing me yes in the shop yeah definitely like i've seen her definitely definitely definitely
20:39definitely so separating that is a good first move really to test out whether you both have intention
20:44does that sound workable yeah would you like to sort of agree that here debbie you talk to
20:54kelvin and just say what it is that you want over the next six months or a year so i'll
21:01give you like
21:01your space do your business stuff however if you want this to work show me with action cool
21:10how do you feel about that kelvin yeah i want to make it work we'll see from couples therapy i
21:21feel
21:21just stronger i feel proud of myself for putting myself like out there and staying true to myself
21:29i love kelvin and if he finds balance then i see a future with him but if there's no balance
21:38then
21:38no don't forget what we've said here today i won't forget this experience just me has it been
21:46that bad no it's been all right it's been it's been good i think my main takeaway is love is
21:53complicated and sometimes people aren't gonna see life from the same lens that you do bye for now
22:09i hope that after this therapy session we're more aligned with each other when i'm trying
22:14spending quality time with debbie outside work i do love debbie and we'll see what the future has for
22:32both of us when it comes to the conversation on having more kids in the future i feel like we're
22:38definitely on different pages i feel like i've had insight on what it's like to have a child with him
22:45i definitely don't regret it but i wouldn't want to times that now by two
22:53we had a date and yeah it just took a left turn we were discussing potentially having more kids in
22:59the future which we've both agreed that we were going to do i really need a lot of answers man
23:05i don't even know if this girl still loves me i hope we can sort things out but at the
23:10end of the day i
23:11just want clarity hi jay okay welcome back hello daisy hi how are you two good why do i not
23:29actually
23:30feel that oh i'm good as an individual okay jay
23:41not great do you want to tell me why we went on a date it was supposed to be for
23:49us to have a good
23:50time and we were just sort of going over the conversation about having more kids the more we
23:56discussed that it just sort of took a left left turn i would say for you daisy i i feel
24:06like i would
24:06need to see some genuine change for me to feel safe having more kids with him we'll come back to
24:15that so i gave you some questions and you went away and thought about them yeah so can we go
24:22through
24:22them what is working in this relationship that i still deeply value and daisy to you first please
24:30i really value the friendship element of a relationship and i feel that's one thing we
24:36always have every day with joseph does feel like spending time with a really good friend
24:44and jay i said i value the sense of togetherness that we have when we go through issues i said
24:53i also
24:53value the deep love and connection that we have for each other and i value the sense of care and
25:00honesty that she has sometimes as well sometimes sometimes sometimes hold on you've both said the
25:07same thing well she's talking like she's talking about some best friend or something how have how is
25:13that what you've interpreted from what i've said bro i'm not your friend bro like i said i value the
25:19friendship element of a relationship and that's all that you value you don't see that as a fundamental
25:27element of a relationship yet it is fundamental but like i wanted to hear that she valued the love
25:32that we have and the connection that we share okay that's okay it's not obvious we'll come back
25:39what is hurting me or wearing me down in ways i'm struggling to accept or forgive daisy joseph's lack
25:50of sentiment is wearing me down when i newly gave birth he often says he was around when i needed
25:59him
26:00but in the moments where he could show his support and empathy for everything i'd gone through when
26:05it wasn't absolutely necessary he didn't i'm hearing there that you don't feel as if jay really
26:14understands you and is there for you in that moment i did feel alone a lot of the times yeah
26:22okay if nothing changes can i live with this relationship long term joseph if nothing changes no
26:31i do not believe i can continue this relationship long term because i do want to have a bigger family
26:38and i've got the impression that she would want to as well but then sometimes i get the impression that
26:43she doesn't so i'm kind of confused on that because ultimately i'm the one giving birth and ultimately
26:50i will be the primary care okay can you do yourself though yes can you impregnate yourself ultimately it would
26:56be my decision can we just think about if you two weren't together what would that mean for both of
27:03you i mean are you together just for allura no no if we weren't together i would never leave her
27:12stranded like that's what i want to talk i would never not support her because when we did start this
27:17journey when she was pregnant yeah i was there the whole time we're going to shake it up a bit
27:23can we
27:24do an exercise where you two have a think about what it might be like to co-parent
27:32what were your thoughts i feel like deep down he would prefer to co-parent
27:41what about you
27:49i feel like this has unraveled a lot of things that i couldn't ignore
27:59to be honest i'd rather leave her just being alone um because for me it just sounds like
28:07i feel like he's miserable for the most part i don't truly want to be co-parents i don't think
28:15anybody does i think everybody who has a partner or has a kid with a partner hopes for the happy
28:22ending
28:23one day i just feel like ultimately that's probably what's best i wouldn't want to contribute to
28:30somebody's misery i would just say find somebody who's hold on your wavelength have you heard me
28:38say i'm miserable no i haven't and this might sound harsh but are you using him as an excuse because
28:43actually you do want to separate exactly i was literally going to say the same thing is that what
28:48you're doing that's what you want to do just not at all i'm not i'm not using him as an
28:54excuse and
28:54this is the thing he hasn't explicitly said those things but from all the things that he's complained
29:00about i couldn't imagine that somebody like that is happy so there's no happy or miserable isn't it
29:06things to work yeah it's just things to work on of course i'm not happy about certain things but
29:10there's also so many different things i'm happy about which i show you all the time the thing is you
29:16don't acknowledge them i do acknowledge you why am i going to acknowledge why am i going to be
29:20discussing things i'm happy about there's nothing to discuss there you said that you feel like i'm
29:27constantly bringing you down but i feel like as a father okay because as a dad as as a person
29:34in
29:34general whatever it may be but i feel like you don't realize that that is what you have done throughout
29:38this whole experience i feel like although i may criticize him about one thing i always make sure
29:43to then praise him about something else whereas vice versa i just feel like it's constant criticism
29:50and praise me about i haven't heard any praise okay that's fine i don't care about this
29:56anymore like i'm actually tired this is boring at this point why is she so irritated she's hurt
30:09do you want to see if she wants to come back in just to finish this session no i don't
30:14care
30:16generally i don't care joseph was basically talking out his ass and i just don't like the image that
30:23he's portraying and for me it was a waste of time sitting there listening to that because it's just
30:27simply not true this is what i have to deal with every time it's just draining like who wants to
30:45deal
30:45with that but why don't you go and see how she's feeling
31:16you actually left you left me
31:20yeah i've walked out before but i've never left to you i've never left here without you
31:24that's fine don't think about me i am going to walk out because i'm not going to sit there and
31:27listen
31:27to that that's bullshit you always say i don't support you that's a lie i'm not doing it anymore
31:31okay cool talk to yourself whatever man
31:42she does know i love her and she knows i love allura as well deeply so i don't know i
31:47feel like
31:47sometimes that's used against me i don't want to be made to look like the villain
31:54so i don't know where this leaves us it seems like it's over so yeah i guess that's what it
32:01is over
32:02i don't give up
32:32it's all hashed it's all good they're all aligned with each other now so it's perfect we want the
32:37love for each other to be the base layer for everything and the foundation for everything
32:42we do from now on everything else comes next yeah oh that was good that was very good
32:48that was very good no no no because you have oh you don't want my lip gloss okay all right
32:52now
32:57we're definitely going to continue some therapy um we need a karen in our life
33:03sometimes you need that middle person just to kind of help you maneuver through certain
33:09conversations with each other it's been a positive experience yeah
33:16life has been amazing i've been traveling i got a promotion at my job everything just seems to be
33:27falling into place and i've just been the happiest i've ever been in a very long time
33:34with that being said
33:39me and kelvin are still together
33:43definitely growing as a couple and individuals and debbie's a lot busier now so she definitely
33:48understands the struggles that i was facing and now i'm on the receiving end so yeah it's a
33:54double-edged sword but but definitely growing
34:02i can say that after therapy opened a lot of wounds and it was very difficult we nearly didn't make
34:08it
34:08so we decided to continue therapy and it has been a journey
34:14i'm still like obviously letting her know that i'm going out with the friends
34:18it's just still trying to find balance i guess we're working for it
34:27so with me and daisy's relationship right now
34:32yeah we're not together
34:35we were just on two completely different pages i felt like we were speaking two different languages
34:40but our daughter's our main party so irregardless of what's going on between us
34:44we definitely make sure to show up for her
34:46i think the resentment from a lot of the past issues that we've been through
34:51and things that we just can't necessarily get past has just sort of caught up to us
34:57we've broken up lots of times but what makes it feel different this time is
35:01we don't live together anymore yeah it just makes it more final you know
35:05i could see myself getting back with him
35:08but i feel like i definitely need to deal with my pride um and learn to forgive
35:21there's a reason that we were together in the first place so yeah that's my answer
35:30you made it to the sofa you've made it to the sofa
35:34things are going really well between us i think therapy has helped us understand each other a bit
35:40more i would say that you appreciate me more don't you definitely in regards to intimacy
35:47there's definitely a few more like visits per week you know more yeah more effort it's been
35:53it's good it's nice i don't know i just fancy my man's all over again you know you know
36:02i'll say we're in a great place in terms of intimacy finances just in general i think we're
36:09really good i am now a postman not necessarily what i want to be doing right now but being able
36:14to
36:15contribute financially again makes me feel like the man it's good to see you out doing something
36:21it's changed your spirit it's made you more like how you were before less grumpy i'm proud of you
36:28because you're doing what you need to do that's what we do man why are you smiling like that
36:34okay and we're having a baby
36:57we are all one we are one we are one we are one love is the answer to every question
37:05we are one
37:07we are one we are one we are one we are one we are one we are one love is
37:11the answer to every question
37:32we are one we are one we are one we are one we are one we are one we are
37:37one we are one we are one we are one we are one we are one we are one we
37:40are one we are one we are one we are one we are one we are one we are one
37:43we are one we are one we are one we are one we are one we are one we are
37:43one we are one we are one we are one we are one we are one we are one we
37:43are one we are one we are one we are one we are one we are one we are one
37:43we are one we are one we are one we are one we are one we are one we are
37:43one we are one we are one we are one we are one we are one we are one we
37:43are one we are one we are one we are one we are one we are one we are one
37:43we are one we are one we are one we are one we are one we are one we are
37:43one we are one we are one we are one we are one we are one we are one we
37:44are
37:44I will run, run, run, run
37:46I'll just be the answer to every question
38:38Thank you
39:08Thank you
39:38Thank you
39:51Thank you
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