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Seth and Sean dive into Bill Barnwell's piece scoring some of the best and worst free agency signings over the past decade and assess Nick Caserio's approach to it by comparison.
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00:00Let's get to this Bill Barnwell article. He did a deep dive on free agency. The work that we've
00:04all been thirsting for for the last however many years did a deep dive on. And I think it's
00:09interesting, especially because the approach the Texans have taken in free agency under Nick
00:14Casario has come under various degrees of scrutiny through the years, depending on what the team has
00:20needed. You know, they don't they don't do enough early. They don't get aggressive enough. They
00:24don't sign enough big ticket guys. They're signing all these cheap guys. There's been all sorts of
00:28different criticisms or assessments through the years. Barnwell comes up with a scoring
00:34system where he goes back for the all the top 50 free agents for each year from 2013 through
00:402022. So all the way up through a period of time where we've now been able to at least
00:44come to some sort of quasi conclusion on everybody. Yeah. His scoring system is goes from zero,
00:52which is disaster to up to six, which is all pro caliber superstar for a little bit of a little
01:01bit of context. Trent Williams signing with the 49ers was a six. He's been the best tackle in
01:08football since he got to the 49ers. Conversely include these trades as free agency. Yeah. Trade.
01:14Yeah. Transaction. Okay. Yeah. Conversely, Brock Osweiler, a zero for the Houston Texans. And that
01:22was that was Brock Osweiler. They ranked it. It was the top 30 by value, the top 30 money deals,
01:29and they adjusted for salary cap. Brock Osweiler's was the seventh most expensive deal in that in that
01:3510 year period. And he was a disaster. He was a disaster. Scored zero. Scored zero there. Three
01:42just and also three, you know, because if the players shouldn't feel like if they don't get a
01:47six, they suck. Three means you lived up to expectations. So kind of right in the middle
01:51there. So there were 500 free agents that Barnwell assessed for that decade, 2013 through 2022,
01:5941% of them have scored either a three or higher, meaning 59% of them were either somewhat disappointing,
02:08very disappointing, or Brock Osweiler disaster level. Yeah, that's I really liked this article.
02:16And look, as Seth mentioned, teasing it, there's 40,000 words in this thing. It is a long article,
02:21but the parts that you can kind of cherry pick out of there, I think for me as a Texan
02:26fan gives
02:27me more understanding as to why Nick Casario approaches free agency the way he does.
02:32Well, the one, the one that you put in there that I think that makes the most sense that I
02:37think most
02:37people figure this is the way it is. It's that the, the, the, the deals that were ranked 26 through
02:4550. So the less expensive deals actually ended up having a much higher hit rate or were much more,
02:52it ended up being a better deals than the most expensive ones. That's right. And that's a classic
02:57cautionary tale of, you know, thinking that you won free agency in the first couple of days of free
03:02agency. That's where a lot of the stupid money is being sent. That's where you're wildly overpaying,
03:07you know, like the amount of money they're paying Tyler Linderbaum, man, it's, it's really hard for
03:12that to really be thought of as a good deal. Unless they, a, unless the Tyler Linderbaum remains an
03:19all pro center, which is very possible, but it's also got to be part of a complete and total
03:24offensive resurgence for you to really consider that a slam dunk to spend $10 million more per
03:30year than other, anybody else is spending on centers. Yeah. The, um, I thought it was interesting
03:35to this, this isn't a big shock, uh, but the free agents Barnwell looked at their age, divided them
03:43up into tears of, you know, 24 to 27 years old, 27 to 30. I think he did 30 plus
03:49by far. The biggest
03:51hit rate is with guys, essentially guys that are getting their second contract. Yeah. 24 to 27
03:57is the, uh, was the biggest, was the biggest hit rate. I just can't, I came away from this article.
04:03You know, if, if you, you know, and if you buy into these numbers, the ratings were subjective
04:09Barnwell rating. So like six doesn't mean you had a PFF score of X, Y, Z. It's just Barnwell looked
04:15at the totality of each guy's career and, and gave them the label. And I trust his judgment of it
04:20as
04:20much as it looks like it just matches the eyeball test. Correct. Yeah. Correct. I came away from this
04:26article feeling, feeling a better understanding of why Nick Casario shops the way he does that he's,
04:34he's other than Daniil Hunter has never been going top of market on guys. They go top of market on
04:40guys
04:40that they've had in the building, including Daniil Hunter, who they've given two extensions to since
04:45he got to the building. Um, so I think they're always going to be shopping in the player 26 through
04:5050 range, not the one through 25 range. Boy, I'll tell you what the one, um, when you spend big
04:57money on a non-marquee quarterback, it can go pretty well. Like Kirk cousins, I'd say that,
05:03but that went okay to the Vikings, not to the Falcons. Um, Tom Brady, the bucks was spectacularly
05:09successful. Phillip rivers to the Colts. It was just a one year deal. So I don't know if I even
05:15include
05:15that, but when you get, so like, those are the most expensive deals in that 10 year period, but then
05:20you
05:20get to Nick Foles, Brock Osweiler, Sam Bradford to the Cardinals, um, all zeros, Teddy Bridgewater
05:30to the Panthers case Keenum to the Broncos. Like the, it just, it's a, those are some case wasn't a
05:38spectacular failure to the Broncos just because it wasn't a gigantic deal. Um, but it's big enough
05:44at the time to be 11th on this list though. Yeah. Oh, that's true. Yeah. I forgot. Yeah. I got
05:49to
05:49adjust for the decade there. Two years, 36 million bucks. I mean that, that I would,
05:54the percentage of money that case Keenum made in his career, the lion's share of it came on that
05:58deal with the Denver Broncos. I would imagine. Cause other than that, he's been a, he's been a
06:02backup his whole career. Um, but he was 11. So he had the 11th biggest deal. And again,
06:07it's proportional relative to what the cap was at the time. Yeah. Case got a two, at least
06:12out of six disappointing, right? That was disappointing. It wasn't a disaster. Like
06:16the other ones, uh, some of the other disasters, a little bit lower. Mike Glenn into the bears.
06:21Oh, remember that? Remember how angry bears fans were about that? That was one from the get-go
06:26that you could have called. Yeah. And I feel like they replaced him almost right away with somebody.
06:31God, it might've got replaced that year. Yeah. No, I don't think he started a bunch of games for the
06:35bears, but they, and Glennon is just, man, I hate to go on looks, but Glennon is just the guy,
06:39you look at that, you know, Seth, before I bet on a quarterback or a head coach, I like to
06:44look at
06:44their, at their headshots. Yeah. It was a Glennon. That was remember Glennon. They, they drafted
06:50Trubisky. Oh, that's right. Yeah. They drafted Trubisky and Trubisky started, uh, the fifth game
06:56of the season after that, after that, they had given Mike Glennon the 24th highest, uh, biggest free
07:03agency deal that, that in that decade. And that was true. That was the best year the bears had
07:07with Trubisky, a quarterback. I want to say he was, I think they won like 12 games that year.
07:12Sorry. I interrupted you. I wanted to know that's okay. I don't remember. No, I was just saying,
07:15if you go look at Mike Glennon's I, I, before giving that, that would be my rule too. Before
07:20giving three years, $45 million to somebody, go look at their, their headshot in the media guide,
07:25include the neck. Yeah. Well, yeah. And you're going to need serious portrait dimensions.
07:31Davis Mills has a long neck, but he's good, but it's muscular. He wears it. Well,
07:36it's almost, uh, scary. However, like if he didn't work out or do the neck flexion machine
07:40or anything, he might end up looking a little bit like, like, uh, like, like the Scarlet
07:46Ibis there that we're talking about. Yes. Yeah. Glennon, uh, here's what they say about
07:51what Barnwell says about Brock Osweiler after backing up Peyton Manning and taking over as
07:56the starter in Denver. Yeah. Digest that for a minute, kids. Peyton Manning got benched for
08:01Brock Osweiler at one point by Gary Kubiak. Uh, Osweiler was benched for the legendary
08:06quarterback in the post season. Osweiler signed with the Texans through more interceptions than
08:11touchdowns. It's really hard to do in the NFL these days. He was the only, the only quarterback
08:16in the history of quarterbacks throwing footballs to Deandre Hopkins. They couldn't figure out how to
08:22get the football to Deandre Hopkins. That's right. Deandre Hopkins was a quarterback skeleton key
08:26that any, any, any quarterback using Deandre Hopkins could unlock his potential just by
08:34throwing it in Deandre Hopkins general direction. And Brock Osweiler couldn't do that. It was
08:39atrocious. What was worse is that's where a lot of his picks were going. He's thrown it to Deandre
08:44Hopkins. Not only can he hit Deandre, he's hitting the opposition in the hands. You look at various
08:49other quarterbacks who just showed there and did their best work, just heaving the ball in the
08:53direction of Deandre Hopkins and Osweiler couldn't figure that out. What the hell?
08:57Now the one, the one of the 30 names on this list of the 30 biggest contracts in that decade,
09:04um, the one that probably hits closest to home for Texan fans outside of Osweiler would be number
09:1025 on the list. Christian Kirk, four years, 72 million to the Jags in 2022. But Texans picked up
09:19the tab on the last, on the, uh, traded, traded a seventh round pick for the right to pick up
09:24the
09:24tab on the last year of that deal. And took it, which had a hefty cap hit attached to it.
09:28That
09:28was a big one year deal for Christian. 16 million bucks, right? Yeah. 16 million bucks. So it's
09:36going to be, that'll be a weird, you know, 10, 15 years from now, that'll be one where you're
09:39sitting around, uh, at a bar just trying to name random Texans. And if you bring up Christian Kirk,
09:45a lot of people are going to be like, Oh yeah, that's right. Yep. I remember that year.
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