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ITL reacts after Nick Caserio brought up C. J. Stroud without being directly asked, and the guys debate whether it was notable, intentional, or just another example of Caserio thinking highly of his franchise quarterback. ITL discusses why the comment stood out and whether Texans fans should read anything into it.
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00:00Appreciate appreciation rather to Nick Casario the general manager of the Houston Texas for jumping on with Pan and Pendergast
00:05this morning
00:06730 is the time if you're utilizing the Odyssey app and the rewind feature there to go back and listen
00:12to it in full
00:12But you would not have to listen too long to hear Nick Casario talk about the probably the number one
00:17storyline that everybody has interest in with this Houston Texas team
00:21And that is one Coleridge Stroud CJ Stroud is how we know him and interestingly enough
00:26It was not a direct question that brought this about which made it that even more fascinating
00:32Nick Casario was asked because you know D'Amico Ryan's yesterday you heard it on these airwaves was talking about
00:37the offense and how
00:38Excited he was about how much further along they are at this point this year than they were last year,
00:44which makes sense
00:44I mean Nick Caley had just started the job, right?
00:47We didn't know what the but it's clear that not only are they further along that they feel good about
00:52it
00:52They talked about, you know, some of the pre-snap tempo type stuff that they are utilizing and so
00:57Sean and Seth just wanted to get a gauge for does Nick Casario Nick
01:00Do you agree with D'Amico Ryan's and then listen where he goes here?
01:03I would agree with D'Amico's assessment and say overall as a team
01:07We're probably further along this time of year
01:11Than we were last year collectively offensively
01:14Certainly made a lot of strides a lot of progress
01:17I mean honestly, I think everything starts with with CJ has probably been the best spring that he's had since
01:23he's been here
01:24You know, he's got a really good offseason. He's trained. Well
01:28I say his on-field demeanor his presence his communication his ownership his leadership of offense
01:34I mean, it's really it stood out and I think collectively, you know, just as an offense
01:41Seem like you're going into a year of understanding the terminology understanding some of the nuances that are involved
01:50And really you're just trying to put put the foundation here in place
01:54As a team. That's what the spring really is about
01:57The way practice is designed. There's certain things you're going to be able to see the other things you're not
02:01gonna be able to see
02:02But just overall it really speaks to the mindset and the mentality of the team
02:07Our offseason attendance has been I don't want to say about a hundred percent. It's like 98 98, you know
02:1495 98 percent
02:15Whatever it's been
02:16So we have a lot of committed players with the right mentality with the right mindset that have really had
02:22I would say a purposeful demeanor
02:24Since the offseason program has started and even going back
02:27To the beginning of when we probably had I don't know 25 20 to 25 players that were training here
02:33Before the offseason program officially kicked off which was april 17th. So
02:38Overall, uh, the team's done a really good job. Um, we put in a lot of good work
02:43Um, try to finish off the spring here strong
02:46Um, and then understand that we're going to have a little bit of a window here four or five weeks
02:51where we're not going to be on our own
02:53Um, but then really once training comes training camp starts up
02:56It's going to be built on a lot of things that we did in the spring you really go back
03:00through a reinstallation of everything
03:01You just do it at a quicker pace
03:03And then you just start to get ready for playing meaningful football. Um, you know once the games start
03:09Was this as wild to you as it was to me? Yes
03:13This was really really
03:15Like talk about sitting up in your chair
03:17I mean he went from a question about, you know
03:20Pretty straightforward question to let me tell you about cj and let me tell you about his demeanor
03:25And let me tell you about how
03:26It is this year compared to not just last year since he's been here best spring that he has had
03:32since he has been
03:33Yes, and and so
03:36How bad was it man? You know, we we've all sort of well look at you be a glass half
03:41empty
03:41No, no because we'll get there I went there
03:43We'll get there, but uh, you know, we've all sort of speculated like yeah, he doesn't seem to embrace it
03:49And we we know everything that's happened the last couple of years and how you know
03:52The facial expressions and body language and not really being able to and hearing things here and there about
03:58just how
03:59uh, he not fully embracing everything from the coordinators plural to you know to to this offense and
04:07Uh some of the things that they're asked to and getting beat up, you know, uh a lot and
04:12And and and running for his life. We all know we know all that
04:15But how bad was it even behind the scenes, you know for them?
04:19Well, I mean even from what we could tell right uh the first offseason
04:23You'll have to tell me more about how you felt about that that the offseason last year was or the
04:28spring
04:28Specifically was an interesting one because we go to camp or we get to you know these periods where he's
04:33not even
04:34Able to take part of it because what was the arm fatigue from throwing the ball?
04:38That's one of the things they said
04:39Oh, okay
04:40Very good
04:41What was the real reason?
04:43We don't know
04:44Okay, all right
04:45Uh, but yeah, I mean even if you just do the thing again, I we were talking about this in
04:49a different uh capacity earlier
04:52There is a lot of instances where when you're talking about this thing in front of you
04:56The way that you talk about it feels like it casts a shadow on the way that things once were
05:02Right, it's correct. I I you know the thing that I was alluding to earlier was the A.J. Brown
05:06A.J. Brown being in philip or in um new england now and talking about how great it feels
05:11We always do the thing right or wrong admittedly where we go. Okay, so what does that mean about where
05:16you were previously?
05:17No, it feels like
05:18Especially seeing as we know nick casario had seemingly been challenging
05:23C.J. when it comes to this spring to go out and have a great spring, right?
05:26You know, there's that opportunity to have a great spring
05:28So for him to come out and go
05:30This is the best spring that he's had
05:32Um, and he talked about how he's taken ownership of the offense, right?
05:37His on-field demeanor is noticeably different, right?
05:41Other things, uh, right
05:42Uh, there's my right. My writing is handwriting is terrible, but like having the right mentality
05:48Uh, having a purple demeanor all these things
05:50You don't say those in a vacuum, right?
05:53These things are then cast as a juxtaposition to what it once was
05:57Which interestingly enough feels like he is saying without saying that these things were not there to the right amounts
06:03Correct
06:03Previously
06:04Absolutely
06:05And so you could take this one of two ways
06:06You could take this where I think some people on the text line are looking at right
06:09Where they go we're getting oj ohio state cj right the league is cooked
06:13The contract is going to get done
06:14Or you could take this from a place where you go hey, why did why did it take this to
06:19get to this place for cj?
06:20And I said we'll get there and we will to to the texter's point
06:24But one other thing that's worth noting
06:27This is cj's this is uh, nick casario talking about the difference between cj this year
06:31He hasn't been the only one will anderson mentioned it correct
06:35That well, you should see cj now and i'm paraphrasing but you you get the point
06:38You've heard the audio here on our station, uh, jayden higgins has said it the fire the fire
06:42No, that was hutchinson rather who had said it
06:44But higgins hutchinson will anderson so players domico ryans, uh, you know ownership of the offense and all this other
06:53this other stuff
06:53And so, you know all that combined with the general manager. You're like dude
06:58It might have been worse than we thought now
07:01Let's get to the good point clearly. It was a gerard johnson issue
07:05That's what changed the good point is
07:08He is there now he is, you know buying in there is
07:12A certain amount of a new cj so to speak
07:16And domico ryans that they're seeing yeah domico did talk about like the the ways in which they're trying to
07:21incorporate
07:21You know, obviously that that relationship between cj and uh, nick cayley and jerry jerry
07:28Like helping and developed further than it was last year and I wonder how much that
07:32Factors into the ownership and the demeanor and so on and so forth and keep in mind domico also said
07:37That they were going to try to implement things that cj likes correct, you know, maybe to appease, you know
07:43Hey, I want to do more of this and that
07:45Uh, so so he is there now
07:47You know that that's the good news because all you really need is a good cj stroud
07:52You know, you don't even need rookie cj stroud. It's that's a big ask
07:56But boy, it it was just uh eye-opening eye-popping uh that he did that now that we're going
08:03back and forth
08:03But now here's the question will it stick he's going to get punched in the mouth
08:08Uh figuratively speaking, uh, there are going to be struggles
08:12It is going to be with this defense
08:14There are going to be some ones versus ones and he's not going to be able to get plays off
08:18and there's going to be frustration and
08:19Uh those types of things. So, you know, then then then becomes the question. Will it stick?
08:24No, and that's ultimately the one that matters, right? Because what's the old saying? It's not how you start. It's
08:29how you finish
08:29Yeah, I will say to that saying though
08:32It's much better to have a good foundational start right and it sounds like this is the case and yes
08:38I think that there's people on the text line acknowledging that we have heard similar sentiments before
08:42I don't think we've heard them to this degree
08:44We don't hurt everyone. I don't think we've heard it with this fervor. Yeah, and as you mentioned it
08:47I don't think we've heard it be this ubiquitous
08:49So it is notable
08:51I believe I just now I want to see like how do they develop upon it?
08:56How how much faster can they start because of this and how much further can they go in the course
09:01of this season?
09:02Because they start from a much better place. That's all remains to be seen
09:05But I I mean this is encouraging if for no other reason than challenge that we could hear
09:10Between the reading between the lines of what Nick Casario and D'Amico Ryan said and now we've heard from
09:16both of them and they both
09:17Be seem to be
09:18Uh pretty effusive in the way that they've talked about cj at this and there's also a a contract element
09:23here
09:24Nick Casario said it this year cj stroud said it this year, you know, we you know
09:28And so maybe there's that like
09:30This is why we're not really going to talk contract too much
09:34Until until we can see that you are bought into what we're doing and you say the contract element
09:40I don't believe it to be this way. So don't come for me
09:43However, I know how a lot of us in sports thing
09:47How many people if I asked you to ask a percentage of the listenership a percentage of the fan base?
09:53Do you think go okay, so he's just gonna do the contract your thing? Oh, yeah, right because yeah
09:58Yeah, I don't think this is at this is an actual contract year, right? This is year four of his
10:02rookie year
10:03Fifth year options
10:04But it's in essence his contract
10:05It is essentially a contract year type situation
10:09And so all of these things happening in this, you know the context sounding like this is a a notable
10:15uptick
10:16From what it had previously been when there is contractual conversations on the table
10:21Or maybe not even specifically on the table, but like in the ether
10:24How much does that make people go?
10:27Are you a dude who's only stepping up in the moment where you need to or like is this is
10:32this creating a question for people?
10:33I don't think it does for me, but I could see how those things would line up for certain
10:36I could see how it creates questions in the building, you know, and not just fans
10:40I think in the building there
10:42They're thinking that because you you get him this big contract. He has a good year, whatever
10:46And you get and he gets a contract all of a sudden
10:49A lot more power, you know
10:52Let's say you pay him 55 million dollars a year and he has a good year and you pay him
10:56that that kind of money all of a sudden
10:58He has the power to to maybe sway things more to his liking
11:02And and one other thing that I thought was interesting
11:05Um, the fellas brought it up this morning
11:08Just in a weird way. It made me think about it. They were talking about, uh, you know, will anderson
11:12You know, these guys were literally side by side, you know, right next elections in selections two and three
11:18And have you ever heard anything?
11:20But that dude is perfect when it comes to will anderson that is the example
11:25I want our guys to follow him. I you know, they have they have just there has to be a
11:30level of frustration
11:31Like we got will anderson and we cut beyond what we expected on the field off the field character
11:36The leadership all that and then we have cj stroud and we're having to
11:41Kind of stroke him, you know in in a sense to to get him to to buy in
11:47Maybe so but I think that that's in a way that's what makes will anderson unique is that he is
11:52that type of dude and that does not come come along all the time
11:55Uh, yeah, maybe maybe I can't speak for anybody. Maybe that would be a level of frustration there
12:00Possibly yeah, um, but I I do like that cj has answered the call here and honestly
12:05um
12:06For what for our purposes i'm just excited that it seems like
12:09Nick casario made the connection of hey the offense looks better and goes this is because cj is practice is
12:15a practitioner of the offense
12:16Mm-hmm right remember last year. I'll take you back a whole 365 days ago
12:22Thereabouts when we were talking about the possibility of what nick kaylee brings to this offense what this offense looks
12:28like if
12:29If it does and style offense or something
12:31Akin to it
12:33What were the potential benefits of that is that you have a quarterback that now is pulling the strings and
12:37pushing and pulling with various different things?
12:39That is what I imagine is being spoken about when we talk about we're utilizing tempo
12:45We're utilizing hard count. Those are the tools that let's use tom brady tom brady used to use
12:50To push and pull defenses to his whim and it sounds like early on
12:55That is happening and nick casario when asked about are you seeing that goes. Yes, cj. Yeah
12:59Yeah, yeah
13:00You know straight there and so i'm for me. I'm like excellent
13:04Are we moving further towards the circumstance of cj stroud being the guy who stands in the pocket and goes
13:09i'm pushing and pulling and
13:11Moving bending things to my will and making things happen because ultimately outside of all of this immediate conversation
13:17That's the end point that we're all hoping for sure
13:20That's absolutely the end point and
13:22With with cj stroud
13:25There's also this possibility the light bulb comes on oh on yeah
13:29There's a light bulb moment, you know, we might be in a situation where
13:33He gets punched in the mouth as I mentioned earlier and he's like no big deal. Let's go
13:38I know this works and that and that's why
13:40You're right. It isn't it's very encouraging. There are questions that we're going to be seeing
13:45Uh, how they're answered, uh, but I think it's very encouraging at least from where they are right now
13:50Because it seemed like cj was trying to do the job with just a few tools, right?
13:53He's got the arm like can he be the these the ball placement specialist and can he move around like
13:58if you are now utilizing
14:00More tools right you went from the box at a 16 crayons now you got the 64 we can paint
14:05different pictures here
14:06No, and it seems like that is also under undergirded
14:09With action there from the 713, but then you have to ask yourself what took him so long to buy
14:13in
14:14It's fair more than fair
14:15It is possible that we come back to the answer of playing quarterback in the football in the nfl is
14:20really hard
14:20And if if it is the epiphany that has finally come that allows him to open up more of the
14:25availability to him
14:25I welcome that uh without having to do too much of that
14:29Other introspection we'll see right that's the beauty of the entirety of this process is we'll have more opportunities
14:35To test and retest what these things are being said, but it's it's
14:39Reaching a fever pitch with the number of different people and how effusive they are about the conversations about cj
14:44stroud in the positive right now
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