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2015.07.22 - Chi l'ha visto_ Le Storie del 22_07_2015 - 05 Angelo Spagnoli, il cecchino di Guidonia (Vittima)_edit

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00:02It's a November evening in 2007. Flames are visible on the terrace of a house. We are in Guidonia,
00:10At the gates of Rome. A car passes nearby. Inside are a woman, her partner, and the
00:16daughter. They're going to the cinema. But Stefania Piazza, that's the woman's name, seeing
00:22She thinks those flames are the beginning of a fire and, alarmed, decides to stop. She is a nurse.
00:29together with Pino and his partner they go to ring the intercom to inform the tenants of what is happening
00:34happening and provide assistance to any injured. However, those flames did not originate from a
00:43short circuit or a domestic accident. That fire was started intentionally by a former
00:51military man, his name is Angelo Spagnoli, who is following a ritual on the terrace of his house
00:57Precisely. He is surrounded by a veritable arsenal and is about to declare war.
01:03in the world. Stefania Piazza survived that man's madness, but not her partner.
01:13I went to see her. She told me she's now trying to survive another form.
01:19of madness and irrationality.
01:24Mrs. Stefania, there is a day in your life that forever marked a before and after.
01:33The first was a happy family with Pino, a job of Pino organized among some
01:44Guys, so there was a whole life going on. What job did Pino do?
01:50Pino was actually a tattoo artist and also worked as an antiques expert, so the
01:59The tattoo artist did it to give the kids work, to take some kids off the streets.
02:04How long were you together?
02:06We had been together for 13 years. I was already coming from a previous marriage that had ended and then
02:13I met Pino, so I shared my family with him, me and my daughter.
02:20Where did you, Pino, and your daughter live?
02:23In Guidonia, it was November 3rd.
02:26What year?
02:26It was 2007 and we decided to go to the cinema.
02:30Were you on foot, in the car?
02:32In the car. We saw a fire above a two-story building, thinking of lending
02:39rescue because perhaps a fire unseen by the tenants, we knocked on the four
02:47The building's doorbells. A lady opened the window for us, but then closed it again.
02:54right in the face.
02:58At this point, you ring the intercom, the lady opens it, closes the window and then what?
03:04And then fire starts falling on me from this terrace.
03:08So, from the terrace you saw it on fire?
03:11Fire begins to fall.
03:12And who was it? Who was doing this?
03:14It was Mr. Spagnoli who started shooting at me with a flamethrower to hit me.
03:21and on Pino, who was behind me. My daughter remained in the car. Then he left from there
03:28Suddenly, I turned around and saw Pino on the ground. I began to realize when
03:33I felt a burning sensation on my body because he started shooting at me too.
03:38Was she hit?
03:38Yes, five times.
03:40Then what happens?
03:41My daughter started screaming because she realized that this was a crazy person and he
03:45he started aiming at my daughter, who was practically, had gotten out of the car
03:51to come and get Pino. So I took her and put her in the car and I hit the brakes
03:56car, which went free towards the countryside. After that I lifted it and threw it inside
04:03a dumpster, hoping that at least the copper of the dumpster would protect her.
04:08There were several people on the ground, there was also a policeman who happened to pass by,
04:15She wasn't alone, she was in civilian clothes with her family. The only thing I managed to do was find
04:20my husband's cell phone and call for help. The police were asking me things that at that time
04:27I couldn't answer. When they heard the shots, the first ones started to come.
04:33cars that were not armored, however, and the first policemen began to fall. After that
04:38The firefighters also intervened and with their fire engine they practically blocked the area
04:44the sniper shot and they started rescuing the wounded on the ground.
04:49That Saturday evening, in the end, how many dead and how many injured were counted?
04:56Two dead, eight seriously injured and seventeen slightly injured.
05:00Was she among the serious and among the light?
05:02Among the serious ones.
05:03Did he shoot to kill?
05:04Exactly. He was shooting at the ground where my face was, so facing Pino and with his back turned.
05:10for him to hit me in the face.
05:12Who is a true professional, a person, a killer, but more than a killer, a sniper
05:18that on any day, in any year, in a country not at war, a war is invented.
05:27This gentleman had arranged for what? Like a system whereby he was protected and could…
05:34see and hit.
05:35Furthermore, he had built a path calibrated under the tiles for his weight, so
05:42Whoever came after him could detonate all the bombs he had planted.
05:48house. In addition, they found some innocent pipes, ready to shoot, that is, he had built himself
05:54the weapons, also because he is a military engineer.
05:58What is this person's name?
06:00Angelo Spagnoli.
06:15Did they know in Monticello that this person was not normal?
06:19They knew it, many knew it. Even the soldiers where they worked knew it and they favored it.
06:26the dismissal of this person because he had shown clear signs of madness. The doctor knew this.
06:34family, his sister knew it, the Carabinieri knew it, the police knew it because he
06:41often in the afternoon he went to an estate opposite to shoot animals
06:46in the meadow. There was a shooting gallery inside the house where a neighbor also took part in the shooting.
06:54on target. Everyone knew it.
06:57After killing two people and wounding about twenty, he was captured. How old are you?
07:04are they given to him?
07:05No one because he is a deputy who is not capable of understanding and willing, for which he is given
07:11given ten years in a judicial psychiatric hospital. He began treatment, so his sister
07:18he asked for house arrest, so he returned to house arrest, but there is
07:23returned frequently, that is, frequently since 2013.
07:29That is, after exactly six years?
07:32Yes, he started coming to Guidogna again and being entrusted to this sister. One fine day...
07:39I find him there where I worked in the Guidogna district, very bold, him and his sister.
07:45And when he saw you, what did he think? When he saw him, especially the murderer of that...
07:51which would become shortly thereafter in 2007, you were supposed to get married so it would become
07:56her husband?
07:57I was stunned, it seemed like a surreal scene, it seemed like something…
08:02At first, you were shocked, right? What were your thoughts afterward?
08:08I don't understand how a person declared to be at the highest level of social danger can be able to
08:17be released into the same context that then generated his madness. He takes advantage
08:26of prize holidays that are bringing him back for a whole issue also wanted by the law for
08:35the closure of the OPGs within the family, but that family was its pathological nucleus.
08:41After seeing this gentleman, did you make a decision?
08:46I made the decision to leave, to leave because over the years the fear and exclusion had stopped me
08:56socially it was a lot, that is, in the sense that I actually excluded myself.
09:00Did your daughter meet Angelo Spagnoli on the streets of Guidogna?
09:03My daughter doesn't go out to Guidogna, she avoids it too.
09:07So the only one free to walk around Montecelio and Guidogna is Pino's murderer?
09:11Yes, exactly.
09:12Looking today at the behaviour of the judiciary, of doctors, of those who have to
09:18handle this situation, that's how you would define their behavior?
09:25I speak to you dispassionately.
09:28I received disability benefits for post-traumatic stress disorder.
09:35If I found him in front of me and killed him, what would they do to me?
09:42What would they have done to me?
09:45Nothing.
09:47Would I have gone out?
09:50This is what scares me.
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