00:02So what can we say it is?
00:05If it's not an unidentified flying object, what is it?
00:09We're going to ask Commander Jorge Polanco, who's here.
00:13How many times have you seen something similar to what happened last year?
00:18Well, like the thing on the 31st night, it was the only experience
00:24where for the first time in my life I was able to appreciate it in shape and size.
00:28How much do I know it flies?
00:3025 years ago.
00:31Is it true that all pilots or all people who fly
00:34Have you had any experience with this type of sightseeing?
00:37Not exactly all of them, but a large number have had it, right?
00:42Yeah?
00:42Yes, yes.
00:43And what are you saying among yourselves? What was it that you saw?
00:46Well, the thing is, I think it was only about 5 or 6 years ago that...
00:53It's like people have been encouraged to talk about it,
00:57because before there was practically a veil over all of this.
01:02Oh, really?
01:03Were they afraid to speak?
01:04Many people, yes.
01:05And why is that?
01:08I don't know, I think...
01:09It has been an enigma to the entire world for years.
01:10Exactly, yes, yes. I think fundamentally because sometimes the one who somehow
01:15He was trying to bear witness to what he had experienced,
01:18If he didn't have support, it was as if he were treated like he was crazy.
01:23Yeah.
01:23Yes. Did you see it? Did your co-pilot see it? Me too?
01:27Four people saw it in the Boeing 727 cabin.
01:30He was the first officer, the flight engineer, and another pilot who was with us at that time.
01:37in the cockpit.
01:38How would you describe it? Was that an atmospheric phenomenon?
01:42No, not at all.
01:43No?
01:43No, no, this had size, shape, dimension, it moved in space,
01:50He actually accompanied us during the final phase approach,
01:54And well, it then apparently causes a...
01:59A blackout.
02:00A blackout, and what's remarkable about all this is that it generates a trajectory after the escape.
02:07of my aircraft, where it moves under, as I say, physical rules that we do not control.
02:15In other words, I don't know of any aircraft, or any device that man has designed.
02:23with the technology that we know and in which we who fly believe we are well updated.
02:28How big was it, Commander?
02:30approximately 30 meters in diameter.
02:32Was it a plate?
02:34A round plate, a plate, with all its parts, what could be seen,
02:39It was all in a dark color, a gray or almost black, it didn't have any kind of window.
02:45What still really sticks in my memory is the fact that the whole part
02:52superior
02:53It had a kind of energy concentration with a very strong orange light
02:59And it had something that was very striking, which was a kind of cadence, as if something
03:04that you had lived and breathed, right?
03:06That really shocked me.
03:08I was very close to you.
03:10Yes, it was close.
03:11And was he accompanying them voluntarily?
03:13Yes, he was accompanying us voluntarily.
03:15Well, I didn't force him.
03:16In fact, all of this is generated in approximately 8 or 9 minutes, which is the duration of our initial approach.
03:25And the initial contact is with a light, an intense light,
03:31Until we started questioning the tower, the tower replied that it had no knowledge of any other transit.
03:39And then we started to worry because we thought it was an aircraft,
03:42We didn't think at first that it could be something unknown.
03:47Now, had they ostensibly reduced their speed because they can go much faster?
03:51Probably. Well, there's something I just heard one of the researchers there talking about.
03:57And it's true, it moves in space in a way that is unconventional for us...
04:03As an aviator, what is your profession? Do you think these kinds of objects could be man-made?
04:09I disagree with some of the testimony I heard here because I believe there is no technology on Earth today.
04:17capable of developing a device or object that moves in that way.
04:22Because otherwise, I'd have to believe that someone told me at some point,
04:28He said, "You are one of the chosen ones because you got to live through this."
04:32So, I always said that it was my turn, but I don't believe I'm one of the chosen ones.
04:37If I believed I was one of the chosen ones, then I would have to think that, as someone rightly said
04:42that a power, developing a vehicle, invested billions of dollars
04:47And she chose me on the night of the 31st to show it to me.
04:51So, I have to believe that I am one of the chosen ones.
04:53Also, did you see the number of messages we've received?
04:55Most people say they've had this experience, right?
04:57Well...
04:59Now, generally speaking, I don't know why you all, it must be because of the profession.
05:03But when a pilot says "I saw it," we believe him more than when he says it to someone else.
05:07It must be because of their profession.
05:09I understand, I understand.
05:10And because of the number of flight hours, the experience they have.
05:13There is one thing that is fundamental.
05:17Specifically, what we experienced on July 31st with the Gendarmerie personnel
05:21And with the airport staff, this has been proven from three different angles.
05:26So, we can't...
05:27I may be wrong, but Gaitán and Sipuzac cannot be wrong.
05:32who were above me.
05:33Sipuzac can't be wrong, but neither can I.
05:37Nor can the airport staff make a mistake.
05:39Did he never see again?
05:40Yeah.
05:41You don't say.
05:42Yes, yes.
05:43But now he's getting visitors often.
05:45Yes? Where?
05:45No, on August 11th, at 1:30 in the morning,
05:48Taking off from Trelew on a night flight to Rio Gallegos, at 1:30.
05:52And was it similar?
05:53And on such a frontal trajectory, the aircraft passed to the right,
05:58We had barely taken off from Trelew, at 1:30 in the morning,
06:02The first officer became slightly agitated.
06:05Do you already have experience?
06:07I took it calmly.
06:08Is it already cachero?
06:08Because, no, it's not that I'm cool,
06:10but simply that I believe that from the moment I experienced this,
06:14I opened my head in a different way.
06:15Oh, really?
06:16Yeah.
06:16Did it change your life?
06:17I don't know if it changed my life,
06:19But before, I was like, yes, they exist, they're there.
06:22But it's one thing to tell him and another thing not to tell him.
06:24Now take the helm.
06:25Thank you, commander.
06:27Thank you for being here with us.
06:29We continue with this topic, which is so interesting.
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