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Seth and Sean discuss what Texans RB David Montgomery had to say as far as why he wanted to come to the Texans and assess how the current version of the Texans' culture stacks up against previous eras.
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00:00Here was David Montgomery, one of the newest Houston Texans, newest running back on the Houston Texans,
00:05on his Zoom call with the media last Friday.
00:08I love this answer. He was asked, hey, why the Houston Texans?
00:11Definitely. Houston was definitely the place that I wanted to go if that was the case, which it was.
00:16I think for me, it just, you look at the whole organization as a whole, right?
00:20I was in Detroit, was a very successful organization, and I practiced against Houston a couple of times,
00:27and they've always been the hardest team to practice against.
00:31You can kind of tell the morale and kind of mentality that both sides of the ball
00:35and that Coach Ryan brings to the table, too.
00:38You also get to look at yourself like, dang, if I ever had an opportunity, I would love to play
00:42for a guy like that.
00:43And look, I'm here now getting to play under a guy like that,
00:46and I want to kind of come in and show these guys that I can kind of hang with the
00:50big dog.
00:51Okay.
00:51Yeah, no, him actually being impressed by the way the Texans practice
00:55and him citing the culture and all of that got me really excited.
01:00I just, it's not the typical thing he, that might be the first time I've ever heard a new player
01:06talking about the intensity of another, the intensity of a team's practice
01:11as one of the reasons he was excited to come there.
01:13Yeah.
01:14So, and this, you might just say, well, that's just lip service or whatever.
01:18All the stories I've heard about David Montgomery are that he's that guy.
01:21Dan Campbell had a clip a couple of years ago after he had a huge game.
01:26I think it was versus the Cowboys.
01:27Remember, he went off.
01:28It was at Green Bay.
01:29One of those, a couple of years ago, Montgomery had a huge game.
01:32And Campbell just gushed about him, about how much he loves the guy,
01:38almost like he was talking about him like he was his own son or something.
01:41And I think that that's appealing to a guy like D'Amico,
01:44because D'Amico and Dan Campbell, I think, expect the same types of behavior and play out of their players.
01:50No question, no question.
01:52So, it got me thinking, Seth, the combination of David Montgomery's quote that we just heard
01:58and the segment we did yesterday where we went through the,
02:01I think it was about eight stereotypes of sports talk radio hosts to see which ones you and I fit.
02:06And there were several, including we see ourselves as people that do talk culture on this show.
02:12Yeah.
02:12And highlight the culture of our various teams, good or bad.
02:15It did get me thinking about this with that David Johnson cut and guys wanting to come here
02:21and guys talking about, especially on the defensive side of the ball, you know,
02:24Reid Blankenship talking about it as well.
02:26Wow, I'm going to be playing on this defense, playing for D'Amico Ryans.
02:29Is this the best that this franchise has been from a culture standpoint right now,
02:37like compared to previous eras, compared to any point in Texas history?
02:40I don't know.
02:41And maybe culture I'm also including, like, kind of how they're viewed around the league by free agents and things
02:46like that.
02:46Right, right.
02:46I don't know.
02:47I think that's tough.
02:49Back in 2011 and 2012, I think people really thought that was a great culture.
02:54I think the way, I mean, that was a very lovable defense.
02:57And then offensively, they just had so many studs.
03:00So I'd say maybe since then.
03:03And I think that part of it is that D'Amico is a guy that talks about culture like most
03:11coaches will talk about culture.
03:13But then very few coaches actually seem like they know how to establish a culture.
03:18And where they fall short, I think this is where Bill O'Brien, this is the category I'd put Bill
03:22O'Brien as.
03:23I think Bill O'Brien cared about the culture and he would talk about the culture,
03:26but the personnel decisions didn't follow suit.
03:30And I think that there were times where his idea of culture was, like, he just didn't know how to
03:37create it,
03:37partly because he would make compromises on the types of players that he wanted or who he would pay and
03:44all of that,
03:45to where it's really hard to talk the talk.
03:48But then when you're not walking the walk and when you've got some of your highest paid guys
03:53who are guys who don't necessarily fit the culture you're talking about, it's really hard to establish that.
03:57With D'Amico, remember I asked him during training camp when I interviewed him, I said,
04:01hey, that first year you used the term energy vampires.
04:04And we would hear that from players about how you don't want any energy vampires out there.
04:08But I haven't heard you talk about it a lot since then.
04:11And he said, we got rid of all of them.
04:13And in my mind, I started going through, oh, yeah, who are the energy vampires that they've gotten rid of?
04:19But they just, he doesn't want the energy vampires around.
04:22I think that's why C.J. Gardner-Johnson was let go very early in the season.
04:27D'Amico doesn't want to deal with energy vampires.
04:30And that's something that over time builds.
04:32And I think they've gotten a lot closer to whatever his ideal version of it is over the last couple
04:38years.
04:38I agree with you.
04:40I think that the 2000, I'll call it like the 2009 through 2012 Texans.
04:47I know they started making the playoffs in 2011.
04:50But that was largely the same nucleus of guys in that period.
04:55And I remember, you know, covering that team, I think even still to this day,
04:59because a lot of those guys still live here in Houston.
05:01And you run into them and you see, that was a very, very tight-knit group.
05:05You know, that group with Schaub as the quarterback and you had Andre Johnson and Owen Daniels,
05:11that whole offensive line was all guys that played together for at least three or four,
05:17sometimes five years in the case of some guys, Eric Winston, Chris Myers.
05:21And then on the defensive side, hell, D'Amico was one of them on the defensive side of the ball.
05:25You know, maybe D'Amico got some of the culture lessons from playing early on with those Texans team.
05:29Who knows?
05:29You were in the building.
05:31You were with Kubiak the first year he was here.
05:35Do you notice something like that as a veteran player when you get a new first-time head coach like
05:39that,
05:39of him trying to establish a culture?
05:41I thought the thing that I was really impressed with by Kubiak was that first year, you know,
05:47he would talk about what he expected from his veteran leaders and the way he wanted the team to operate.
05:55And it was cool for me because I got injured that year relatively early on.
06:01And then I just, I wasn't around the team a lot because I despised the defensive coordinator so much.
06:05Right.
06:05So, but, so when I came back in 2012, it was really cool to kind of see that a lot
06:13of the things that he had been talking about early in that first season,
06:16I felt like, oh, that's happening now.
06:19The level of veteran leadership on this team, I can tell, is a lot more like what Kubiak was talking
06:25about.
06:25So, yeah, yeah, I definitely noticed that his, you know, kind of him as a former player who was a
06:32head coach,
06:33his spin on it or the way he approached it was that he really is, he really respected the value
06:39of having really good veteran leadership.
06:41And I thought that they had that.
06:42Yeah.
06:43I, you know, I think it's, I think you, you framed it perfectly.
06:46I think it's, it's definitely the best it's been since that era of Texans football, that 2011, 2012.
06:51And it's just, it's crazy to think how quickly it flipped once D'Amico got here.
06:55You know, he's, he's the, he's the catalyst for all that.
06:58We heard Dalton Schultz say that to Jim Rome last week.
07:00It's, you know, that's D'Amico is the, is the big catalyst for all that.
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