00:00you you're starting to see what the bones are of what this team is to be obviously there's still a
00:05big uh opportunity to make yourself better in the draft there's still free agency stuff that
00:11can be done as we are looking at the possibility of a guard addition still and i wonder if we
00:16are
00:17more encouraged about the possibility with the news that uh that jonathan alexander had put out
00:21there that uh that the texans had made a competitive quote competitive offer to elton jenkins the uh
00:27the released packer and so a guard slash center so you know we're still looking at that place but
00:32with what has been done thus far especially on the offensive side what does it tell you or does it
00:38tell you anything 713-572-4610 because i'm guessing john lopez that you have a few things that you're
00:43taking away from the early early builds of what this line or what this offense rather is looking
00:47more so curious and that's why you know we need to talk about this i'm curious what you and figgy
00:53and
00:53our listeners think oh buddy uh i got thoughts you got thoughts um so when you start looking at how
00:59this team has been built we know where the you know how good the defense is but if you looked
01:02at
01:02some of the contracts like some of the extensions uh some of the the younger younger players the ones
01:07that are going to be here i hate to say like six seven years because you never know in the
01:11nfl but
01:11let's say like three four years down the road like they're they're they're pretty much locked in on the
01:16defensive side like you know where is there like oh could lose him uh you know something like that soon
01:22yeah yeah i don't i don't know i mean this team they're they're digging in on defense long term
01:26right especially at their major points right you you feel comfortable about four out of your five
01:32actually now five out of your five defensive backs uh for the next handful of years now after the next
01:38handful of years there is an interesting conversation that i think is uh going to be had we don't have
01:42to
01:42have it now because why would we uh when it comes to which cornerback are you going to keep
01:46yeah that that's the first thing i was thinking about that will be a conversation here but again
01:51we're looking three three four that's a couple yeah we got a little bit of time but i'm like if
01:56he's playing the way he's been playing he's gonna get paid a lot linebackers an interesting place
02:00because i don't know that any of those you're talking about for the for the duration of two three
02:04seasons uh but defensive line your edges you're holding on for the next couple of years interior is
02:10where it feels like there could be some didn't they give logan hall a three-year deal too and i'm
02:14not saying
02:14he's going to be your front line player but i mean they're they're i'll put it just in a broad
02:19sense
02:19defensively they're the they're built for the long term in nfl terms yeah they have in nfl terms
02:25they're built for the long term they have some stability so why aren't why can't we say the same
02:29thing on offense outside of receivers i think receivers you got some good long term nico higgins
02:35noel heck yeah yeah tank you know tank dell you know maybe uh fits in there why aren't why aren't
02:41we
02:41seeing like okay this guy's gonna be here for a while including the quarterback that's an
02:47interesting question um i think on the offensive line the easy answer is they are rehabilitating
02:52the offensive line would be the only one years ursory is the only one as of right now until they
02:56add some uh add some rookie talent in the draft it'd be hard to imagine that there's not at least
03:01one
03:01offensive line rookie that is uh that they come out with regardless of where they ultimately draft
03:05that player but you see where i'm going with i think that that's why on the offensive line is
03:09there's probably an understanding or thought process for nick casaria that the right way
03:13quote unquote to build an offensive line is to have young talented young talented players that
03:18you have controllable through the draft so as opposed to doing a lot of signing uh through free agency
03:22that they're doing it in a draft capacity outside of that that's an interesting thought right um
03:28i mean ed ingram trent brown jake andrews uh even dalton chills although he's they took care of him
03:35but added an extra year yeah but you know who knows brevin jordan kate stover foster moreau uh
03:41and then you can talk about the quarterback the you know he's our quarterback not you didn't talk
03:46about after this year david montgomery you know there is sort of i mean you could argue woody marks
03:52well you know what the easy answer is here right the defense is good and if you have a good
03:57thing you
03:57want to keep it together you can't say that about the offense yet yeah right so that's probably the easy
04:02answer is that you're not locked in because why would you lock in on an offense that as of right
04:07now there's not a single argument to be made that it's fully formed even the arguments that you can
04:12make in trying in some level of defense of the offense is that there are portions of it that work
04:17that work pretty well even the stated goal of the offense is not good yet you hope to see it
04:23be good but
04:23you would need to see that uh that demonstrated and that's running the football so yeah man i i could
04:29kind of understand the thought process of why would we have this locked up and before we have a an
04:33understanding really and truly that this is doing the thing that we want to do right i think obviously
04:38that would be the optimal circumstance but i also think we should probably look around and ask how
04:42many why would you how many how many teams do have that circumstance situated that way yeah it seemed
04:47like they just want their identity to be about the defense to me if they you know if they hit
04:53on some
04:53offensive players that's cool but it seemed like their focus is on the defense right now and
04:59if the offense is ran how they wanted to be ran then they can win the super bowl i'm glad
05:05you said
05:05that figgy because i think there might be something else at play here who does it like that build the
05:12defense long term let's establish ourselves we might have a couple of or a large number of
05:17interchangeable parts here you go again we got we don't have to we don't have to bar him from saying
05:20this name tell me i'm wrong we don't have to bar well i could tell you you're wrong because you
05:24talk about the patriots is that what you were going to go to the patriots turn things over
05:27but they have historically turned things over on any portion of this team right that they are they
05:32are very much or at least their mo had been up until recently that but offensively so many
05:37different sets of running backs so many outside of tom brady you know receivers coming in and out
05:41uh offensive linemen coming in and out uh tight ends they were set for a while until you know that
05:45murder thing uh that murder thing uh but but it is a the philosophy is so obvious to me
05:53i i think you're off on this one yeah i'll let you rock on a lot of this i think
05:58you're off on this one
05:59i don't think that this is necessarily necessarily a patriots thing because the patriots have let guys
06:03go and brought in newer guys and depending on cost or whatever i think that this probably speaks more
06:09to the circumstance where also you you could take this up to the coaching level right there's stability
06:15on the coaching staff we know who's going to be determining the defense we know what the defense
06:19is going to look like and it's easy to lock in on players because you know that they fit what
06:23your
06:23system is and what your scheme is do we have that consistency offensively no even in just what
06:29the identity of the team is what the identity of the unit is rather like how do you lock in
06:34players
06:34for something that you're not even sure that you're locked in on schematically on the other hand i'm like
06:39i hear you but uh you know offensively they were i think it's safe to say they were pretty much
06:44turning things over everywhere except brady yeah yeah and i think the issue is you don't have tom
06:50brady and you're not even sure what cj shroud is right so i think that's the tough part right there
06:56now if you knew what he was then you that's probably a little easier to build around that but you
07:01you're
07:01not even sure if if that's the guy right that's the guy moving forward also maybe one of the maybe
07:08another easy answer that we could throw in there is they've been really good at identifying talent on
07:12defense but i think that's part of it it's the talent that you're willing to uh that you're
07:17willing to sign up long term are the ones that have demonstrated demonstrably that they're really
07:21good at this and that's been largely the defensive side of it had some of these offensive linemen been
07:25hits we maybe would have had this conversation you guys right you know damian pierce you know
07:29some of these other guys maybe we wouldn't be having this conversation kate stover maybe we wouldn't
07:35be having this conversation so i think it's just that's what i wanted you know why is it i'm not
07:40saying
07:40it's definitely this or that but there's there's clear obvious things on the defensive side that
07:45they are built for the long haul and offensively they're still trying to determine it no and that's
07:49that's kind of going to be i think a badge that they have to carry maybe not one of honor
07:53but a
07:53reminder for them is like hey you need to be better at the identification portion of this and getting
07:58this together because that's also an indication that they have not put together enough of a of a solid
08:04thing for the offensive side of the football which is necessary if you want to win in this league in
08:08the
08:08modern era all right you're in the loop in the loop there we go i almost said in the league
08:12which is
08:12an entirely different thing but you're we are in the league man what you talking about you're balling
08:17baby baby balling man okay if you say something if figgy figs say it then it's true
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