00:00Masculinity is understood or seen is very much as a chest pumping
00:20You gave a totally new meaning to the word friendzone
00:27I was really
00:30Writing this story knowing that love can have many forms, but there's only one true love
00:39I don't actually think that
00:42There's no such thing as one kind of love that trumps everything else
00:47I actually believe that there are many different kind of connections in our lives and they're so much so complex
00:52and they're so
00:54They're so nuanced, and I think that there is a way in which that a relationship can contain many things
01:00over many many years
01:01So for example the two lead characters in my movie, Hesong and Nora, they have a
01:07Different relationship throughout their own their entire lives where where they were in their child children
01:12They were friends and then when they are reconnect there were maybe they could be they could have been lovers
01:18both kind of a long distance
01:20Lovers and then of course when they meet again, they're
01:24You know friends who have been sort of estranged
01:27So I think that there is a way in which that all throughout our lives our relationship sort of shifts
01:33and changes and movie is really more about the
01:36life and then the way that the life leaves an impact on on connections
01:41More than you know a certain kind of connection having a
01:46More value or more meaning than another one
01:50Speaking about true love I think that your performance is amazing. It's one of the best really
01:58You have one of the best love
02:00Scene in in that I have seen in years when you you say to the main character
02:06You dream in a language that I can't understand, but it really tries to understand there
02:12So how did you work on on this really amazing kind of love?
02:17Uh, I I you know, I don't think there was much to work on I think celine wrote it in
02:23such an honest way
02:25um that
02:27You know, I think if you've been in an adult relationship
02:30And you've experienced that kind of love and care for a partner or companion in your life
02:37Then you just naturally understand
02:41That feeling of wanting to be as much a part of their life
02:46Or being able to understand them as deeply as possible
02:50And that was in the writing
02:52So
02:53Greta and I were just fortunate enough to have such beautiful language to just rely on and lean into
02:59So it made our job a lot easier
03:01But but that that was that was right there on the page
03:04Mm-hmm
03:06The men in this in this story are really amazing because they are so understanding they
03:13know neither your character neither the other character character as a
03:17feeling of possession
03:20And in italy we are not so used to
03:25How lucky is this woman in your opinion?
03:28Well, I think that to me something that I really did want to depict were
03:32uh men as I uh see them and love them in my own life because to me the
03:37uh sometimes the way that uh masculinity is understood or seen is very much as a
03:42you know chest pumping you know like a possessive thing
03:45but I also know that the the men that I love and the men uh the kind of masculinity that
03:51I love
03:51is uh one where you're actually able to uh set yourself aside for uh someone else
03:57And I think that that to me is the a sort of fundamental part of it
04:01And I think that the other truth is that uh when uh you know it's amazing to me that it's
04:07like uh
04:07uh uh when we talk about a person um we we can talk about that person uh being uh
04:14entitled to so many things like power and money and things like that but something that I think
04:18uh you know Nora uh you know uh receives and I think everybody is
04:23uh more scandalized by it than uh if she got a ton of power or money which is that uh
04:30a tremendous
04:30amount of love from the people who who love her and I think that to me I don't think that
04:35it is
04:35uh too much I think that it is uh exactly what you should ask for it's what you're entitled to
04:40to from the people that uh love you
04:42And to you both there's a beautiful line uh at the beginning of the movie
04:46um the mother of of the female character says when you leave something you gain something else
04:53I want to ask you what what is it that you gain when you leave something in your opinion
04:59um I think that you know what you uh you know sometimes it's as simple as like you know when
05:04you
05:05uh leave behind a country can you gain another one or like you'll be behind a culture and a
05:10language and you gain another language and culture how that uh leaves an impact on your life could be
05:16any number of things and I think that it is are meant to be so vast uh what you leave
05:21behind what
05:22you are what you gain so it's really you're gaining a whole world and yeah I think you never know
05:28what
05:28you're going to gain but it certainly is true if you stay in the same place and you remain in
05:35a static
05:35kind of existence there's very limited things to be gained you know you know what you have you know
05:42what you're getting every day you know what you're going to be served every day uh something as
05:47simple as coming to this film festival where you're gaining something that is different than what
05:53you would normally go about so you every time you make a change you don't know what you're going
05:58to walk away with but you certainly are going to walk away with something new do you really believe
06:03that love is like entropy it it never um goes destroyed but only transforms even during our past
06:12lives and future lives well I think that love can be uh you know I don't think that there's a
06:18one way
06:18to really define how what journey that uh love goes through but I think that what we can know is
06:24that
06:24um there are connections that endure over time and uh there are connections that in this film uh it's
06:32meant to say it's it endures uh throughout the past and the future lives as well and I think that
06:38um
06:38again I think the the way that the connection is there's no way for you to uh judge it or
06:44to um evaluate
06:46it I think that it is as simple as that's the one that's the way it is in this life
06:50yeah I think when we
06:51think about love what people tend to think about in the most simplistic version of a romantic love
06:57uh but what I think Celine is offering in this film is that love is a very complicated
07:04thing that transcends simply romance or anything like that so I agree what you're saying it it it
07:13I think it changes it evolves but once love is there I think it remains even if it becomes hateful
07:20love you know even like if you break up and you hate them I think there's still something
07:26you could call love yeah okay thank you so much the movie is amazing you are all amazing thank you
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