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Shan, RJ, and Bobby reacted to the two Cowboys trades that took place yesterday. They broke down the deals sending Osa Odighizuwa to the 49ers and Solomon Thomas, along with a seventh-round pick, to the Titans, while also reacting to the return and what the moves mean for Dallas.
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00:00Two brand-new Cowboy trades, Osa Odigizua, as many of us speculated,
00:06has been dealt to the San Francisco 49ers for a third round pick.
00:13Nice job, Cowboys, I mean that, genuinely, number 92 overall.
00:20Yeah, fourth was what it felt like it was going to be the cap on,
00:24so the fact that they got a third was good, and it's a third this year.
00:29It's not like something you're getting in the future, you're getting a third rounder this year,
00:31so they will be picking on day two as it stands right now.
00:34Hey, all right, look at that, I'm getting that day two pick.
00:38It's fine.
00:39Yeah, we're going to use him, you know, he was going to be having,
00:41I wouldn't say not going to use him, but there were people there that had money,
00:45that were ahead of him, that were going to get more playing time.
00:49This is a numbers game at the end of the day.
00:51You save some cash, you get some picks out of it, let's go.
00:54You save about $5 million, it's a $16 million dead cap hit, Todd Archer explaining.
01:02They also have another move where Solomon Thomas and a seventh rounder
01:07were sent to the Tennessee Titans to have a seventh rounder come back.
01:12That saves you $2.5 million on the cap, $750,000 in dead cap.
01:18We'll get to Solomon in a second.
01:20Do we have Matt Ibraflus to thank for?
01:23No, God, no.
01:24No, that's Raheem Morris wanted him.
01:26Raheem Morris wanted him.
01:26Raheem Morris wanted him.
01:27No, I mean, I'm sure Ibraflus over there was like, yeah, he's a good player,
01:30but, I mean, Raheem Morris was a big driving force for him.
01:34In terms of O.C. you're talking about?
01:35Yeah.
01:36Yeah, this is exhibit A of why a guy, if you're going to take a hometown discount,
01:43you better get a no-trade clause.
01:45Yeah, a lot of this kind of split Cowboy Twitter yesterday.
01:50The PFF guys are not happy at all that Osa was dealt.
01:55They want a pro football-focused campaign on social media.
02:00And then you get the human and emotional side of it with Jane Slater
02:05and the beat reporters all pointing out Bobby has talked about ad nauseum,
02:08what a great dude Osa was, how he was holding the flag front and center
02:13after the passing of Marshawn Nealon.
02:16He took less.
02:17Washington had a higher offer on the table, according to multiple people,
02:21and, like Luka Doncic, had just built a new house.
02:26So, new house, took less, awesome dude, team leader,
02:30not fitting for Christian Parker, and you save five mil.
02:33That's the risk.
02:34That's the key.
02:35Don't build a house.
02:36If you're a DFW athlete, don't build a house in the Metroplex
02:39because that'll get you traded.
02:41But they're all going to move back here anyway.
02:42He's honestly a really, really great guy.
02:46He was always doing charity stuff around here
02:49and was a good presence in the locker room.
02:52He's going to – both things can be true.
02:56They needed to move on from him because it was just –
03:00it wasn't going to work here the way they were going to rotate
03:01their defensive line.
03:03And then the other thing can be true.
03:04People are going to be mad next year when he plays really well in San Francisco.
03:07He will push, I would imagine, like, up towards double-digit sacks.
03:12I don't know if he'll get there, but he'll push because he's –
03:15the type of scheme they play and the way that they'll use him
03:19and the way that they'll coach him, he's going to have a good year.
03:21So explain again, scheme-wise, why he was not a fit.
03:26Tweener size.
03:27He's just a little undersized for what they want to do.
03:30And he's – I think they're going to get a –
03:33you technically can play with three defensive tackles all up front
03:38in the 3-4 look.
03:39I think they're going to get another defensive end
03:42who's just a bigger edge rusher to play the 4-eye.
03:45But at that point, he's a little too big to be just kind of a classic defensive end.
03:50He's not as – he's not big enough necessarily to play some of the other stuff
03:54they want to do on the defensive line with the tackle.
03:56So it's just – he was a tweener.
03:59Why is this upsetting the PFF world?
04:02Because, I mean, he's a – he is a good player.
04:05Like, he was last year – he's not, like, this stat filler,
04:09but he's very disruptive.
04:10He's – before they traded for Quinnen Williams, since Osa entered the league,
04:15Quinnen and Osa were 1-2 in the NFL in pressures from defensive tackle position.
04:20And so he's been a disruptive defensive tackle.
04:24It's just he's not – he doesn't, you know, finish stuff all the time.
04:28But he is – people really like the way that he plays with leverage,
04:31the way that he plays with power, the motor, the quickness off the snap.
04:35He does a lot of things that are really, really good.
04:37David Hellman tweeting, pick 92 does not feel as good as a young player
04:41with 50-plus pressures, assuming you have real ambitions.
04:45I know they have a lot of salary at D-tackle,
04:48but I'd rather have made it work than shed salary that they didn't have to.
04:54Yeah, on the fan text here for the 302, you had to do it,
04:57but not good enough at 92.
04:59The pick.
05:00Disagree, the rest of the league would say.
05:01I don't think they were going to get anything that was better than that.
05:04Yeah, I mean, I was thinking a four.
05:06A four felt like perfect, and I wasn't going to have a –
05:12I would have been disappointed if it was less than a four.
05:15So I'm pleasantly surprised that it's more than a four.
05:19Evaluating interior alignment, defensive tackles, always tougher for me
05:23and I think the average football fan.
05:26But oh so, Diggie Zoua, to me, I'm just talking about the player,
05:30not enough splash plays.
05:31I was a little bit underwhelmed after the brand-new contract was signed.
05:35I'm going to trust Christian Parker, and we picked up on these vibes
05:38when he sat down with us in Indianapolis.
05:41I also did not have any second- or third-round picks,
05:45so I'm happy to get a new toy to play with with a third-rounder,
05:48and I'm shedding a little bit of salary with this and the other moves.
05:52So I'm pleasantly surprised, and I'm happy the Cowboys did.
05:56I applaud them.
05:57In a vacuum.
05:58A lot of people are also not happy that you're sending him to a contender.
06:01You're sending him to one of your daddies.
06:03That's true.
06:04They are.
06:05Jerry is like they didn't want to trade Mike into Philly, obviously,
06:09but they're willing to trade Osa to the team that is your daddy.
06:11But you can't just keep knocking teams off the list.
06:14There's no way you can compare Mike and Osa, though.
06:16No, no, no, you can't.
06:17I'm just saying, if you're going to have a hard-mind stand.
06:19So I would ask those fans, a third-rounder is San Fran or a fourth-rounder in the AFC?
06:23Like, Osa DiGizu at a Bobby's point, he's not that guy where I have to eliminate your own conference.
06:30Now, if it's Cleveland's fourth-rounder, where it's at the very top,
06:34and you're probably sliding down eight to ten picks here,
06:37you know, that could be a different story, but I have no problem with this.
06:41I will say that people are bringing this up, and then it is, you know,
06:44if we're saying that the defense has holes, that this is not a defensive position that has holes, right?
06:50So you can move away from his strength.
06:53You know, we have talked about Parker, you know, fitting the scheme to the players they have.
06:59Yeah.
07:00Well, I mean, this is now what?
07:01At least the second defensive player they're getting rid of because of fit?
07:05They've gotten rid of three now.
07:07Three?
07:07Yeah, but I mean, they don't.
07:09Clowney?
07:10Clowney, Solomon, and Osa.
07:12Yeah, I mean, I was, but, like, you know, those are, like, those are quality football players.
07:17Well, Solomon Thomas.
07:17Two of them are.
07:18Two of them are quality football players.
07:19Solomon Thomas didn't play.
07:21I was hoping he would play more.
07:23I feel bad for him.
07:24Talk about being an all-time good guy.
07:26I feel bad for Solomon Thomas.
07:28But, look, man, this is where Cowboy fans justifiably catch some heat.
07:32The bitching and the moaning and the complaining that Osa Odigizua is not living up to the contract,
07:37and then as soon as Osa Odigizua gets dealt to San Fran, you bemoan it, and you're not happy about
07:44it.
07:44Like, which one is it?
07:45Like, if we're moving into a new house and the wife is picking out all the color schemes and you
07:51offer me a couch,
07:52the couch has to fit what the wife wants.
07:55I'm just not getting a free couch, even though it's a nice couch.
07:58It's a $4,000 couch.
07:59I'm just not sticking it in there because it's got to fit what the wife wants the living room to
08:04look like.
08:05That's how I view these pieces and parts with Christian Parker.
08:09Like, Osa Odigizua, a fine football player.
08:12Great dude.
08:13It's got to fit the wallpaper.
08:16That's Will McClay when we said, what did we miss the most?
08:18He said, true fit.
08:19He said, you guys miss true fit the most.
08:21That's what you aren't applying correctly.
08:23And the Phanteks could say, yeah, in a vacuum, like a 27-year-old defensive tackle who generates a lot
08:31of pressure
08:31and has stayed reliably healthy and all that stuff.
08:36Yeah, in a vacuum, that doesn't sound like you got enough.
08:39The reality is not, though, that you thought he should have gotten a second off the Phanteks.
08:45That's not happening.
08:47That's not happening.
08:47When he makes as much money as he does, they're clearly trying to move him a year after he signs.
08:52The league looks at that and goes, okay, well, I mean, there's only so much you're getting for that then.
08:57If you're wanting to move off of that, that's why teams always try to project.
09:00The Raiders try to project.
09:02We still want two first-round picks.
09:03We might just keep it.
09:04Like, they all project that for a reason.
09:06They're trying to build up value, and they're trying to protect themselves from damaging what they can get on the
09:12market.
09:12So it was on the Phanteks, Solomon, Osa, and who was the third?
09:18Clowney.
09:18Clowney.
09:19And Clowney.
09:20Okay.
09:20I mean, Clowney, like, by far, to me, having the best season last year, but you got a Clowney replacement
09:27in Rashawn Gary.
09:30Why did they send Solomon with a seventh for a seventh?
09:33They moved up seven spots, right?
09:35Went from 225 to 218.
09:36I was very wind-horsed yesterday with the fingers up.
09:39I don't know.
09:40It makes zero sense.
09:42So if you're going to do that, fine.
09:44But you tell the Titans, we're moving up seven spots in the seventh round, which is nothing.
09:50Yeah.
09:50We'll send you Solomon Thomas, who's a veteran who, even if he's not a scheme fit, even if he's not
09:55a perfect scheme fit, he can get by.
09:57He'll get by.
09:58And that's at the very least, it'll be that.
10:01It'll be a little bit of an awkward fit, and he'll get by.
10:05Anyway, you want to cover your bases.
10:06So the fact that they've exposed themselves now tells me that they're getting somebody else on the defensive line at
10:14some point.
10:14Because what you typically...
10:15Expose themselves, what do you mean?
10:16Because they don't have a starter.
10:17They don't have a third starter on the defensive line now.
10:19When they're nickel, they do.
10:20Yeah, they'll be Rashawn Gary, Azaraku, and then the two tackles.
10:24But when they are in the 3-4 base look, they don't have a third one now.
10:27And so teams are all about liability exposure and trying to make sure that they're not creating holes.
10:35Like, they want to go into the draft with, if we had to play tomorrow, that guy in a break
10:41glass in case of emergency situation could start for us the whole year.
10:45And they don't have that.
10:47And, like, I saw some people last night, because I tweeted something similar, and they were like, well, you didn't
10:51have that last year.
10:52What about last year?
10:53How you walked into the set?
10:54No, you did.
10:54You went out and got Kenneth Murray and Kyrie Lim.
10:56They're bad.
10:56They were bad.
10:58They ended up being bad.
10:59But they went out there saying, in a pinch, they can do it if we don't get what we want.
11:03And that's what every team in the NFL does.
11:05Whether you think the teams are smart, dumb, whether you think they got good players or bad players, they all
11:09acquire players the same way leading up to the draft.
11:11So, because I don't know why you wouldn't just say, yeah, Tennessee, we'll trade you to him on day two
11:16of the draft.
11:17We're going to pick guys in the first round, make sure we have our guy, because we don't have a
11:21fail-safe here.
11:21And if we don't get somebody there, then we're keeping him.
11:25But otherwise, for seven spots, two months in advance, they're doing something.
11:30I don't know what.
11:31And it may not be a big thing.
11:32It may be a small thing.
11:33But they're going to do something now.
11:34So, Solomon reunites with Robert Sala and Aaron Whitecott, and for a third time, Jets, Cowboys, Titans.
11:43Cowboys expected to sign outside linebacker Tyrus Wheat when the new league year opens.
11:49Well, that was yesterday.
11:51And he had some time here before.
11:55Played in 20 games for the Cowboys.
11:58Signed as an undrafted free agent in 2023.
12:02Special teams help as well for Tyrus Wheat.
12:05My bad.
12:06That's their insurance right there, Tyrus Wheat.
12:08They've got him now, and so they're good to go.
12:10No, I mean, they did like Tyrus Wheat a couple years ago, but no, that's not anybody other than a
12:14depth guy.
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