00:00We've got some breaking news, and then we have some more breaking news as two things have just come across
00:05the wire and happened.
00:06I'm going to bring in Rob Long, and I don't know if you've heard these things yet, Rob, but if
00:10you haven't, you'll get a chance to talk about them with us.
00:12And why don't you leave more, because big things happen, man. It feels like when I go on vacation.
00:17Yeah, the trade-in-chief thing is wild. It almost makes you believe, you know, you're a conspiracy theorist.
00:24By the way, what's up, Femi?
00:25Hey, what's up, Rob?
00:25It kind of makes you feel like maybe you're a conspiracy theorist. We can get an elite pass rusher without
00:30giving up draft picks.
00:31Yeah, well, so the way the report goes is that the Ravens are finalizing a deal with Bengals Pro Bowl
00:36defensive end Trey Hendrickson.
00:38What did you see? Four years, $112 million, deal worth up to $30 million per season.
00:42I guess we're waiting on guaranteed money with that.
00:45And Aditi Kinkabuala, God, I think I nailed that, has reported that Lamar Jackson has reached an agreement on a
00:51restructure, not an extension.
00:53The details aren't out on the numbers and that, but she's reporting it's done.
00:56So, Rob, your thoughts initially on those two things.
00:59I know you're in Sarasota, and we thought we'd be talking baseball with you this week, but we've had some
01:03crazy things happen.
01:04Well, I'll be honest with you, Jeremy. You know how I felt about giving up the two draft picks.
01:09And I wanted Trey Hendrickson for no draft picks.
01:11So, I don't like the way it went, because it looks a little dysfunctional, I guess.
01:16But, ultimately, selfishly, it's what I wanted.
01:20I don't want to give up draft picks for people. I just don't.
01:22Draft picks are too valuable, especially the way the Ravens do it.
01:27And you go out and get a Trey Hendrickson, a guy that comes off the edge and still disrupt things.
01:31You don't give up draft picks. You just got to pay for them.
01:34To me, it's a no-brainer. That's what you take.
01:39I don't know what was going on behind closed doors.
01:41I don't know whether Trey Hendrickson had something to do with what happened yesterday.
01:44Or I don't know whether Trey Hendrickson just fell in your lap because they called you and said,
01:47Hey, we heard you need a pass rusher.
01:49But I think, ultimately, there's a hell-wanted sign of stuff.
01:53But I think, ultimately, the Ravens win.
01:56You know what I mean? They keep the draft picks, and they get what they needed,
01:58and that's a guy that can get to the quarterback.
02:00Yeah, Rob, you know what? I'm going to give the Ravens the benefit of the doubt,
02:03because the truth of the matter is they could have signed Trey to this deal
02:06before they did the whole Max thing.
02:07I think Max is a better all-around football player.
02:09He's obviously younger, and we know this.
02:12People are going to put their tinfoil hats on,
02:13and they're going to come up with whatever they want to.
02:15But I think that trust is gained in drops and lost in buckets,
02:19and I'm sure there's going to be those people that aren't going to have trust
02:22in the Ravens front office in the short term.
02:23But I think you hit the nail on the head.
02:24You've got to be selfish, and you've got to think about your organization
02:27and the fiduciary responsibility you have to the capital and utility
02:31that you're supposed to bring to the organization.
02:33So my opinion, long term, I think it's going to be a nothing burger.
02:36Nobody remembers what happened two days ago.
02:39Do you think long term is going to be an issue for Eric in the front office?
02:42No, not at all.
02:43Not at all.
02:44All you need is productivity.
02:45People want productivity.
02:46That's all they want.
02:46Win.
02:47Win, and they will applaud you for doing what they'll wink and say,
02:51I see you, you sucker.
02:52But then they'll applaud you.
02:54That's just how it is.
02:55I mean, I get it.
02:56The world that we live in doing what we do, we get the fans.
02:59We get the biggest fans because they're sitting listening for four hours.
03:03I get it.
03:04I'm not upset with anybody who calls in and says they don't like it.
03:08I'll listen to you.
03:09But in my opinion, I didn't want to give up two first-round draft picks for anyone.
03:14Anyone.
03:14I don't care who you are.
03:16I don't want to give up two first-round draft picks for you.
03:18So to get those draft picks back and get a guy who I believe is still an elite pass rusher,
03:23I'm good today.
03:24I feel better now than I did when I heard the trade had been redone.
03:32We weren't going to do it because of the physical.
03:33I'm like, okay, man, we still need the pass rusher.
03:35So now here we stand at 9.07, I'm good.
03:39Rob, anything Orioles-related that you wanted to – I mean, yesterday we were talking about some stuff.
03:43You were on top of some of the guys that have impressed you.
03:46Kobe Mayo, you had mentioned his name, and then he went four for four yesterday.
03:50I know we –
03:51I do pause.
03:52Yeah.
03:52Don't be saying I'm on top of no guys.
03:54Don't be doing that, all right?
03:55Pause on that.
03:57All right, second of all, I got some news for you, Jeremy, that you're going to like.
04:01You're on top of guys?
04:02I spoke with Andrew Kittredge today.
04:06Yeah.
04:06Number one, he said when he heard the news that he was coming back to Baltimore, he was pumped.
04:11Which I found like, wow, you wanted to come back.
04:13Y'all had to lose a season last year.
04:15But he said he was pumped.
04:16That's number one.
04:17Number two, I forgot.
04:18He played with Helsley and St. Louis and couldn't wait for that.
04:23And he also played with Boz in Tampa.
04:26He says Boz is going to be really good.
04:29He's just scratched the surface.
04:30He said, wait and see what Boz becomes.
04:33That's a steal of a move.
04:34Wow.
04:35Wow.
04:35Again, I love seeing this and it's all this excitement.
04:38By the way, we get about three minutes of Oriole talking today with everything that's going on.
04:43Anything else standing out to you?
04:44I know the WBC, the U.S. losing and Mark DeRosa thinking that they'd already clinched.
04:49I mean, how dumb can you be?
04:52Yeah.
04:54Yeah, pretty dumb.
04:56I don't get it.
04:58Well, Rob, they need – so now Joe has given us the breakdown.
05:02The American team, Team USA needs Mexico to win tonight and it has to be – what is it?
05:08Oh, they get in.
05:09If Italy wins, they're in.
05:11Okay, sorry.
05:11If Mexico beats Italy by more than five runs, they're also in.
05:16But if Mexico only wins by less than three, then the United States is out.
05:20That's crazy to think, man.
05:21That's crazy.
05:23Rob, did you get a chance to watch the USA versus Italy last night?
05:25Yeah, and I was watching it, but then obviously the Max Crosby stuff, I was trying to juggle a bunch
05:28of things all at once.
05:29Did you get to watch it?
05:30I did watch it, and I spoke with some guys in Clubhouse who were questioning the Americans pitching from top
05:39to bottom.
05:39And I think last night, Team Italy exploited it, to be quite honest with you.
05:44Everybody that I know that was watching it and covers it, the biggest question mark was pitching.
05:49You got a guy last night, two outs, 75% swing and miss rate, and you give up a home
05:55run.
05:56That's tough, man.
05:57That's tough.
05:58So the pitching was one of the biggest question marks for Team USA.
06:01You put six runs on the board last night, and you still lose by two.
06:05So it'll be interesting to see how that pitching staff holds up.
06:09Yeah.
06:10Go ahead, Fenn.
06:11Yeah, no, no.
06:11I think my biggest issue was, you know, I grew up in the Bay.
06:14I'm a Logan Webb fan.
06:15So, you know, I thought, obviously, to keep up that first home run, you know, first at bat.
06:18But we flushed that.
06:20Scoble, same thing.
06:21First batter home run, we flushed that, too.
06:22But my biggest issue is if we make it to the quarterfinals or the semifinals or the championship, there's no
06:27Scoble.
06:28There's no Skeens.
06:29Those guys said, hey, we're one and done.
06:31Like, that makes me super concerned.
06:32I mean, Japan, look, look, dude, you're going to need some guys out there that can get on, like, some
06:36aces that can really deliver some stuff.
06:38I just don't – I just wonder what happens even if they make it to the next round.
06:40Now, I'm here for it, but I am concerned.
06:42I think pitching – starting pitching is going to be the biggest issue and them just getting eliminated after the
06:46quarterfinal.
06:48Yeah, it's going to be huge.
06:49Can you imagine being one and done with all the hype?
06:52It's supposed to be Team USA and Dominican Republic.
06:54It was almost a walk-in, and now they don't even make it to the next round.
06:57I think that's going to be huge, honestly.
06:59It's going to be one of those things.
07:00Because it's not as big as the Olympics, but to me it's kind of like, you know, when Team USA
07:05basketball didn't follow through in bronze medal.
07:09It's almost akin to that in terms of this platform.
07:13Again, not as big as the Olympics by no stretch of the imagination.
07:16But if they don't get to the next round, there will be a lot of questions to answer going to
07:22the next World Baseball Classic,
07:23especially with your manager not understanding the situation before he goes into a game.
07:27And, Rob, before I let you run, just to reiterate, going back to the Max Crosby deal falling through,
07:33the Ravens have signed Trey Hendrickson to a four-year deal.
07:35Lamar has restructured, not extended his contract.
07:39Ultimately, in your opinion, you think this is better than having Max Crosby?
07:43It's a better deal. It's a better move. You don't give up two draft picks.
07:46I'm not comparing Crosby to Trey Hendrickson.
07:49But what you're getting, you're getting an elite pass rusher.
07:51Is the other guy more elite? Okay, you can argue that.
07:54But you're still getting an elite pass rusher, and you give up nothing but money.
07:58You got to pay him anyway.
08:00You get your draft picks back.
08:02You know, I'm telling you, for those of you who have ticked off,
08:04don't let pick number 14 this year become an all-pro.
08:07Then what are you going to say?
08:09I'm glad that they got the draft picks because when DeCosta and the scouting department
08:14gets together in their kitchen and start cooking,
08:17then normally we come up with good pieces.
08:19So, you know, let them cook, and you got a pass rusher.
08:21And, Rob, I can understand what they're going through.
08:23I was offered either to have Femi for two days and Maleski for two days
08:27and have Rob call in for one segment.
08:29And I said, I like that better than having Rob five days.
08:32I'm sure you do.
08:33Can I throw one more thing in with Trey Hendrickson?
08:36Yeah.
08:36You took him from a division rival.
08:38Yeah, exactly.
08:39Good stuff, man.
08:40You just made Cincinnati worse.
08:42Yeah, absolutely.
08:43Rob, amen.
08:44Appreciate it.
08:44We're going to talk to you tomorrow.
08:45You're back on Friday.
08:47We'll see if anything else is breaking.
08:48I mean, you left and everything went to hell, man.
08:53And so, appreciate it as always.
08:55We'll talk to you tomorrow.
08:56All right, buddy.
08:56All right, man.
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