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00:00you'll remember this show um it was not last year it must have been the year before when
00:07clay was still on the uh on the warriors and like one of the phrases that i think captured
00:15a lot of the modern warrior fans because the warriors have always had a good fan base that
00:20was kind of how i would define oracle oracle was loud and full even when they sucked
00:24so it's good fan base and then that's why when they got good oracle became one of the best home
00:31court advantages and arenas in in all of the nba and what was the phrase that we always talked about
00:38when this generation of the warriors started playing you'll know how to fill in this blank
00:44steph curry and the warriors play with joy exactly they play with joy two years ago i can remember
00:52sitting in this seat and watching clay thompson play and he was struggling and he was trying
00:59to shoot his way out of a slump and this is back when he kept you know he's flashing four
01:03fingers
01:03at devin booker and just all of the constant mouthpieces yeah and i'm like dude i get it or
01:10maybe i don't i can't get it i've never torn my achilles and my acl in back-to-back years
01:16like i've
01:16never i've never done either of these things i've never been a star basketball player i've never had
01:22people go on the radio and tv on a daily basis and talk about me and criticize and all like
01:28okay
01:30so i don't get it but i i'm a fan and i'm watching it and i can tell you what
01:37speaks to me
01:38and i remember going dude why are you so angry you're so angry and whether i understand it or not
01:49is not even the point i can tell you as a fan it's not very fun to watch it's not
01:53fun to watch you go
01:54be angry sometimes it's fun with draymond because it's kind of his thing it's his bit yeah well and
02:01he's turned it into a success story but unless that's your thing you know what i mean i it's just
02:08i don't
02:08know like i'm not feeling angry clay and i thought about this today because that clay two years ago
02:15that's how a lot of the fan base sounds to me right now angry fan angry fan and do you
02:22have a
02:22reason to be it doesn't matter you just either are or you aren't so if you want to call this
02:27a milk and
02:28cookie alert go ahead i don't really care the bottom line is that's my spin on what i hear right
02:35now
02:35you might be right jonathan's gonna be a star and dunleavy traded him at the wrong time and he got
02:42a bag of
02:42nickels back that might all be true steve kerr mis-evaluation sensation yeah why does he like
02:49the the redhead fluffy guy so much i don't know you're too mad like coming out of four championships
02:59you're too mad you like we can assess all of these things and criticize and say i'd have done this
03:06differently but we got to find a way to recalibrate and sort of get back in touch with
03:15your warrior fandom and actually pods is a great example because the kid didn't do anything damn
03:21wrong like you don't like kerr because of how he handles pods but this now has landed on pods
03:27he's the youngest warrior player and he's done nothing wrong he made the all rookie team he's done
03:33nothing wrong and 70 of the fan base hates him that's not just me that's not how i want to
03:41be a
03:41fan and you can be a fan however you want and i was talking in the last segment about the
03:45five stages
03:46of grief and i think that you as a warrior fan are probably feeling the grief the reality of jimmy
03:52is
03:52out for another eight or nine months and porzingis is on a plane but isn't going to play and steph
03:59curry
03:59is about to be 38 happy birthday draymond he turns 36 today so you're looking at the inevitability of
04:06what you just described you had four titles and you had two other finals appearances you've been
04:11damn good for a long time but the reality is in the grief and the reality is um grandpa's not
04:18going
04:18to make it too many more christmases and so you're starting to go through how you deal with the grief
04:23and one of the stages is anger and you don't really do anger as a fan very often and so
04:30some fans do some fans deal with grief in that fashion i'm not even to depression or acceptance
04:38i'm at the bargaining phase which is okay you know if porzingis can just play and you know he and
04:44steph
04:44can show that they're a good combo he can maybe sign next year and you know if jimmy comes back
04:49in
04:49january alan d anthony you're still here maybe you get one last swing at the thing and so that to
04:56me
04:56is more where my mind is right now well that's where my mind always is see that's kind of what
05:02i'm getting at i love that you said that i like you can i have no issue hell i spent
05:08the whole day
05:08yesterday calling what the warriors have right now a pr disaster and it is i have no issue if a
05:14fan is
05:15like well this was stupid i agree with you this didn't make any sense to me not in terms of
05:20timing
05:20not in terms of return i don't understand it yeah i like i thought that was a if you ask
05:26me right now
05:26bad deal bad deal but for that to then get to where i feel like we've arrived it's so funny
05:36how many
05:36people are like the whole steve kerr jonathan kaminga thing it got personal did it you have no idea
05:42it feels to me like a lot of you fans have gotten to that level where it's personal for you
05:48whether
05:49it's pods kerr dunleavy i didn't like him as a player either like what you know what i mean like
05:55what can you just say the organization made a mistake without staying in this muck for how long how long
06:05are
06:06we going to do this that's what i'm getting at like it depends on how things go when you go
06:11forward
06:11they gotta get over i don't think it's time to get over it it's not time to get over it
06:15yet because
06:16you got kaminga cooking in atlanta and the guy you got back is not really playing and we're celebrating
06:22today because he's on an airplane he's in an airplane i'm making light of the fact that that's
06:27news chris taps porzingis has flown with the team and then you added oh he's still not going to play
06:32tomorrow and so okay but at least he's feeling well enough to go on a chartered plane so i don't
06:39think
06:39that you're at a point yet if you are feeling angry you're not at a point yet where you could
06:45you
06:45should let that anger go oh because it's still angering don't don't misunderstand me i'm not
06:50telling you what to do with your like if you want to tell me how i'm gonna feel you can
06:55you can be mad
06:57about that as long as you want to be mad about that absolutely are you are but at a certain
07:05point
07:05i guess what i'm talking about maybe is the discussion and i i i am curious how much longer
07:15jonathan kaminga will be either sort of like hate watched by some or the opposite which is like
07:27i guess i'll call it thirst watched where we're gonna sit here and sort of try to reinvent
07:35history that's my point he's he's gone he's gone but why is he gone darn it well why is he
07:44gone
07:44who pushed him out the door well there's like 50 answers people are still mad about jordan pool
07:49some people hold the whole thing against draymond green and the organization and the jordan pool fans
07:55oh if we had a pool party right and i've already heard that on this station a few times this
07:59week but
07:59i get that but at the same time didn't like okay if you go back to having a pool party
08:05when the jordan
08:05pool thing happened what everybody said was going to happen with jordan is the same thing everyone's
08:11saying about jonathan now and it didn't happen jordan hasn't done anything that makes us go damn it
08:17he's the one that got away he lost a star no you didn't you lost someone that new orleans has
08:22been dnp
08:25but but but so you can still like if you're still mad about that one then maybe i would have
08:29an
08:30opinion about your anger like come on jordan pool well i'm not saying that uh fans are still angry i
08:36was thinking about how long did we you know watch the jordan pool experience in washington now that
08:42happened in the offseason right if i'm not mistaken so there was a little bit more of a breakaway point
08:48where you could kind of let it go and you know you could let him start his year you still
08:52watched
08:53it but this is different because deadline boom he gets healthy he plays he cooks and the guy you got
08:59back has done almost nothing well and it's different because jordan jordan played and was given a ramp
09:05to to be a very productive nba player and all that this is so that's part of this and i
09:11am fully
09:11understand this is so unique this is so unique a huge part of the fan base feels like this guy
09:16just
09:16got absolutely jailed absolutely jailed and now he's free and and and playing really well
09:25so like again i i'm i'm actually more with you if you're you know really upset about this then maybe
09:33you think after all that we've said on this show the last handful of years i don't understand this
09:38trade not at this time not for that return exactly i don't understand it but it happened and
09:44i don't know how how long do we want to make warrior basketball about someone who doesn't
09:50play for the warriors as long as it's about someone who doesn't play for the warriors and
09:54i'm not talking about jk i'm talking about kp so as long as this is about somebody who doesn't play
10:00for the warriors that makes it even more difficult to move on mike dunleavy had some interesting things
10:07on the tk show which i think dropped today recorded yesterday we got it yeah well we'll get
10:11into it i don't want to jump the jump the cuts as they say but interesting comments about chris
10:16dapp's medicals is he watching porzingis uh what does he think about jk the word demand was used as
10:24well tk did a great job as always and by the way there's also a lot in there about steve
10:29kerr's future
10:30and this is fundamental to my question because some of you are so angry at steve kerr i wonder
10:35about your ability to be a warrior fan as long as he's still the head coach and i don't think
10:41he's
10:42going to be done at the end of the year spoiler alert that's been my opinion all along me too
10:47as
10:48you know and mike speaks to that uh in in a small way um let's take some calls jay in
10:54san jose hi jay
10:54thanks for calling willie and dibby what's up um what i wanted to say was i think part of the
11:03problem is that positive is still here you know i mean like and for me personally after a blowout
11:12lost to the lakers at halftime the other day they were like saying so you got blew out yesterday blah
11:20blah blah blah blah blah and he was like well they had a couple of you know hall of famers
11:24and we're just
11:24a bunch of role players like okay now you're a role player and then he said they asked him so
11:29what
11:30did you do and he said well i went to the venues and drank some wine red or white both
11:34like this guy
11:37don't have the cachet you saying that he did absolutely nothing wrong i get it but he hasn't
11:42done enough right to have that type of cachet for that type of answer if comingo would have said
11:48something like that we'd have been all over that guy what do you mean you got blew out by the
11:53lakers
11:53you're a role player and you win that head wine red and white like it's just that pods like okay
12:00so
12:00comingo moved on to a new team he's doing good let's put pods on a different team
12:07and let's see how he does that's that would give us some solace if we like if you have to
12:12start a
12:12team tomorrow you only had one year to win a championship you're not picking pods but yeah we
12:19supposed to say we're trying to win a championship so i think that's that's part of what we're why we're
12:24still hung up on this not necessarily about for zingas or whatever his name is the fact that pods
12:30is still out there and i'm hating on him even though i know he is a baller like he can't
12:34buckets what can
12:35i say i mean he does a lot of little things he rebounds he takes charges he hustles but the
12:41fact
12:42that he was married to comingo in this situation where comingo wasn't allowed to make those mistakes
12:46and grow in front of our eyes and odds is that's why we're that's where i'm at well and and
12:54and i'll
12:54say jay that while all kinds of interesting points there that last sentence you just said he was married
13:00to pods who did that who married him to pods who married him to comingo we did that y'all
13:08did that
13:09he didn't do that the warriors didn't do that we did that we've got to own that jay thank you
13:16by the way the interview you're talking about didn't happen after the laker game i saw that
13:21interview and that interview i believe happened at halftime of the clippers game which is a very
13:26important distinction because in that moment pods is being light because he just scored 20 at half
13:32and the warriors are up by 14 so don't they did not do a post-game interview with pods after
13:38the
13:38laker game where he was talking about drinking wine at least not to my knowledge it was the
13:43women's empowerment game thank you and uh yeah he put up a clean 20 and they played an amazing first
13:48half and you know the gals were asking him just fun questions and he was giving fun answers and he's
13:54coming off a 20 point half i believe a career high and a half and yeah let's go drink and
14:00see that's
14:00exactly what i'm talking about maybe he drank in the locker room because he came out and was not
14:05quite as good maybe he should have yeah i i mean but but do you see and this this is
14:10a great
14:10psychological experiment right here i don't know jay didn't mean to do this i don't want to call jay out
14:15but he just completely made up a story and i would argue it's because some of us want to hate
14:25brandon
14:25pajamski like you just you just put him on a different day at a different game saying a different thing
14:32to
14:33different people and then ended it by saying he's married to cominga he did none of that
14:40none of it he did not do an interview after the laker game he did not say anything about wine
14:47after getting blown out by the lakers and he did not marry jonathan cominga
14:53at least not to my knowledge no and that that's one now we'll have to to google but
14:57this all comes under the same phrase and it's confirmation bias so if you're watching jk in
15:03atlanta and he's had three great games for the hawks you can look at it and go well the opponents
15:09they played are trash and in the third game he got a lot of points in garbage time he's still
15:14not that
15:15great i'm gonna go ahead and wait and see or if you're a cominga stan you watch him do what
15:19he does
15:20in atlanta and you go see see kerr wouldn't play him and dunleavy traded him for nothing and lake
15:26finally let him go it's confirmation bias and we do it all the time you do it with brock you're
15:32the
15:32president of brockistan i do it with brock in a different way because i'm not as big a fan but
15:37if you look at your player who you really think is great and they have a poor game well you
15:42know he
15:42didn't get protection on that throw i don't even have any you're right i'm just joking around about
15:47the brock part but we all do this no but you're not like you're right you're right you're right you're
15:56brock throws a pick i'm like the wind exactly i'm kidding okay but brendall
16:04yeah like sure that's that's just being a human being i get all that but like i do think and
16:12this
16:12one's fair check this out boxer and gerson work injury attorney's text line um pods is 925 thank you
16:20for listening and texting pods is fine as a player i think he's just annoying and that's why he gets
16:24so
16:24much hate i was like okay like i i actually get that if you find his his his look his
16:32misses which
16:33are like oddly bad sometimes if you what he said about being better than steph his he's cocky if you
16:42are turned off by all of that that's fine i i would ask can we have the punishment fit the
16:47crime
16:48that's all i'm saying with pods let the punishment fit the crime this is somebody who's jay
16:54walking and y'all are trying to have him executed man strong but i was gonna go with jail for
17:00life
17:00and then i i got dramatic i'm sorry you could have just said like 30 days in the cooler
17:05shout out hogan's heroes i got dramatic i i'm prone to do that i apologize you know another athlete
17:09it just hit me that we did this too for about eight or nine years it's brandon belt we did
17:17that
17:17with brandon belt sure did he would look at a pitch on a three two count and it would be
17:21borderline
17:21and he'd strike out and he'd kind of do the mopey thing back to the dugout and you would forget
17:26that
17:26the other three times he would look at the same pitch and draw a walk you know he would hit
17:31the
17:31ball out of the park and just the whole thing about maybe it was his look i don't know what
17:35it was but
17:36fans were always down on brandon belt and then late in his career he tried to just become a dan
17:40dibbley funny guy and started cruising around with captain's hats all over the place true showing up to
17:45the building on a boat and the giants are like you know 13 and and 20 and you're like
17:52really doing funny guy like we hit the ball in the bay well yeah so yeah some of that is
17:57i think
17:58you're spot on like some people just rub people the wrong way and i so pods we i'm if he
18:05rubs you the
18:05wrong way i get it you try to put him in jail though and connecting him to jonathan comingo we
18:10did that
18:11we have to own that you want to be mad at someone there obviously it's steve and others i mean
18:18whoever's everybody's involved in the rotations and yeah decisions and all that tough with pods
18:23because when you look at the metrics that coaches love he's really good and then the eye test of maybe
18:30some of the things that bug you it's the twirling of the finger it's the foul baiting it's the horrific
18:35misses from three and then you look up oh he was a plus 91 this month yeah
18:40you
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