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Championship contender? What exactly is this Celtics team capable of?
Which team would be the toughest matchup for the Celtics?? Is it the Cavs, Knicks or Pistons?
Which team would be the toughest matchup for the Celtics?? Is it the Cavs, Knicks or Pistons?
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00:00Well, Greg, let's begin with Kendrick Perkins.
00:02He's been, I got to tell you, he's been talking up the Celtics,
00:04and Jalen Brown in particular, quite a bit lately.
00:06Here's Perk telling you exactly what the Boston Celtics are capable of
00:10in the NBA playoffs.
00:11Well, I still got the Pistons by a little bit over the Celtics,
00:15but Jason Tatum come back, that's going to convince me to put the Celtics up top.
00:22The Celtics have the most, has the most championship experience
00:27out of any team in the Eastern Conference.
00:30They have the best two-way player in the game who I believe should be the MVP.
00:34He damn sure is going to get my vote.
00:36And when you think about what they have, their culture, the coaching,
00:40the system with the move that they made at the trade deadline,
00:44going to get Vucevic, and they have a dynamic duo,
00:48if Tatum comes back, that is proven.
00:51The other Eastern Conference teams, not, but it's too many unknowns.
00:56We don't know what Carl Anthony Town and Mike Brown relationship
00:59is going to look like.
01:00We don't trust James Harden just yet.
01:03Donovan Mitchell has never led a team to the Conference Finals.
01:07The Detroit Pistons still have inexperience.
01:10They only have one playoff run.
01:11So it's a lot of unknowns with those other teams.
01:14We know what the Celtics are capable of doing.
01:18Is Perk allowed back in the building?
01:20He was banned, I think, for a while.
01:23I think he's good.
01:23Yeah, I think he's working his way back.
01:25He's working his way back.
01:26Yeah, yeah, he's definitely working his way back.
01:27Because he ended up motivating.
01:29Like, he said something.
01:30Wasn't it negative about Jalen for a bit?
01:32He had a – or Jason, and then they went off in the next game.
01:36Like, it's motivating.
01:38I feel like it was both of them.
01:39But, I mean, he's not lying when you start to compare them
01:42to the rest of the Eastern Conference.
01:44I mean, even if Jason Tatum doesn't come back,
01:47I still feel pretty good, you know,
01:49that there's a chance that they could get to the Eastern Conference Finals.
01:54But if Jason Tatum does come back, then I really – you know, I'm like Perk.
01:59I would put my money on them over anybody else.
02:03But, you know, we saw them potentially losing last year to the Knicks
02:07with both of their healthy superstars.
02:09And, you know, maybe a better roster last year.
02:12So, it'll be interesting.
02:14It's not tonight when it comes to Tatum because he's still listed as out.
02:19But I guess it could be Friday.
02:20So, we'll wait and see.
02:22And Curtis said it yesterday.
02:24Joe Mazzula has done an unbelievable job when it comes to this basketball team
02:28this season.
02:28He has.
02:29Right now.
02:29And Wiggy was right.
02:30He never was cleared for five-on-five.
02:32And he was out over the weekend.
02:33I missaw or thought I saw something that I didn't see.
02:36Yeah, because I think once the doctors say to him, you're good to go, he's playing.
02:45Like, I don't – like, I don't think he wouldn't play.
02:48Because there'd be – once you're cleared, where does the concern come from?
02:54Once the doctors –
02:55Chemistry.
02:56He said it.
02:56Yeah, but even with the chemistry thing, like, eh, you know, maybe you say those things.
03:01Like, you don't want to – like, you're being a good teammate in the sense of, like,
03:05you know, these guys are playing so good.
03:07Where would I fit if I came back?
03:09I don't want to disrupt the chemistry.
03:10I think you're being, like, politically correct.
03:12But why does he say it then?
03:13Because I think you're being politically correct in the sense that the team is playing so well.
03:18You know, now me coming in, them have to incorporate in me.
03:23He's saying that just for, in my opinion –
03:26But teams do that all the time when it comes to the trade deadline and get a new guy and
03:33incorporate a new guy.
03:34And it's – I mean, they all – they don't all, but certainly Jalen knows what – how Jason Tatum
03:42likes to play.
03:43Derek White knows how he likes to play.
03:46Peyton Pritchard knows what his role is.
03:49But it's a different – but those guys, like, Jason's role is completely different than all those other guys.
03:55So now when he comes back, he slides back into the alpha chair.
04:00And how does that kind of – he's saying – that's why I think he said it is, like, okay,
04:05how does that chemistry then look when I'm a guy who's –
04:08I'm not a guy – a role player who's coming back.
04:11I'm the man coming back.
04:12Well, let me ask you.
04:13So he decides he's going to come back Friday night.
04:15Oh, here's the other thing.
04:16Do you think it matters to Jason Tatum?
04:18Minor thing.
04:19Does he want to come back at home?
04:21Yes.
04:22You think so?
04:22Yep.
04:23Okay.
04:23So you think that's a –
04:24I think that probably matters a little bit.
04:26Yeah, I think that definitely matters a little bit.
04:27So he comes back Friday night.
04:29Is he a starter?
04:30Yes.
04:31Okay.
04:32Yeah, for Baylor Shireman.
04:33Yeah, he's definitely a starter.
04:34And there's going to be no issue with anybody on that team when it comes to him starting right away?
04:40No.
04:41No.
04:41Yeah, I mean, who would have issues?
04:44I mean, maybe the guy who's going to the bench, you know, but those will be internal issues that that
04:48player will deal with, whether it's Shireman, like Shireman said.
04:52But I don't think anybody's looking at, like, oh, man, what are we doing here?
04:56Why are we letting Tatum start?
04:58And I think he'll play a lot.
05:00And two Duke guys.
05:01Yeah, I think he'll end up playing a lot, too.
05:03He'll end up playing, you know, 28, 29, maybe 30 minutes a night.
05:08Oh, I don't think, right away?
05:10Yeah, I mean.
05:10I don't think so.
05:11Colby did it.
05:12I know, but we keep going back to that.
05:15Kevin Durant did it.
05:16You know, I mean, granted, Kevin Durant sat out longer.
05:20He sat out for like 580 days.
05:22You know, so I think that when you start to look at it and, you know, I don't think he's
05:27coming back to play 15 minutes.
05:30I think he's coming back and he's going to be playing 30 minutes.
05:33Right away.
05:34Yeah.
05:35Yeah, I just think there's a different way to say it.
05:37Maybe I'm just nitpicking.
05:38But, like, if you say the team's been spectacular, I just want to make sure that I don't make things
05:43go the other direction or that I stop the momentum.
05:46And chemistry to me are two different things.
05:48Like, you could say, you could be complimentary of the team and say, man, this thing's been going crazy.
05:53I just hope when I come back I can keep it going as opposed to how I fit in with
05:57chemistry.
05:58But couldn't that just, couldn't he just be being honest about, like, his own insecurity about the situation?
06:03Being like, yeah, man, I don't know how I'm going to fit in.
06:06Like, they're playing a little bit different than I'm accustomed to us playing.
06:10Like, I don't know exactly how I'm going to.
06:11He might just be completely honest.
06:13He also said, I ain't going to be no role player.
06:16Yeah, to the doctor six weeks after surgery.
06:18Right, but you're saying he's being modest.
06:19I mean, that's...
06:20Well, I'm not saying he's being modest.
06:21I'm saying he's being honest.
06:23Yeah, and that, especially when he said it on the pivot where this was maybe a month ago or so.
06:28So he's getting closer and he looks at how good this team is playing.
06:32This team's, you know, a number two seed or they might have been a number three seed at the time.
06:36And he's probably, like, you know, human nature is like, wow, they are playing really good.
06:42I don't want to disrupt the chemistry in any way because I know when I come back, they're going to
06:50incorporate me into a large role.
06:52And I don't want to be the guy because, you know, human nature, you don't want to be that guy
06:55who's like...
06:56I love the back and forth on this.
06:58I wish he would just, like, literally just show up and play and we could get over this.
07:02It's like...
07:03He's got to be clear, though.
07:04Truth Hurts the Nerd in the Twitch chat says there is no way he's playing 30 minutes.
07:09No way.
07:09So dumb, Wiggy, is what Truth...
07:11Why?
07:12That's what Truth Hurts the Nerd said.
07:14I don't know.
07:14Because he got hurt, like...
07:16He's rusty.
07:16He's rusty.
07:17If I only...
07:18Even if he's cleared to play, he's cleared to play.
07:19Right.
07:19And if I only have one person to kind of go off of a reference, that would be Kobe Bryant
07:27who came back in less time and averaged 30 minutes.
07:32Yeah, but you're also talking about a team that doesn't necessarily need him to play 30 minutes right now to
07:37continue to succeed.
07:38Right, but you're not bringing a guy back, like, at Tatum's status to go, okay, he can play 30 minutes,
07:44but we're only going to play him 15 because of the chemistry.
07:48You're getting a...
07:49No, I'm not talking about the chemistry.
07:50I'm just talking about he's getting the rust off, so let's not push him in immediately to 30 minutes.
07:56Like, the first game back 30 minutes is absurd, in my opinion.
07:59And if he's just replacing Baylor Shireman, how is that impacting the chemistry?
08:04Obviously, he's a much better player with one leg.
08:07And that's why I think...
08:09So what are we talking about with chemistry?
08:10I don't get it.
08:11Well, I think the chemistry more of...
08:13Not Shireman's role, but I think more of the Jalen Brown role and how the chemistry has looked with him
08:19as the leader of the team.
08:20I mean, it's not really chemistry.
08:23It's one of the two of them is going to be bothered by how it goes and how many minutes...
08:29But that's going to affect the chemistry.
08:30How many touches and who's the alpha?
08:34Like, that's the issue.
08:35Right, but the one guy that who...
08:37Chemistry is a nice way of saying it.
08:39Yeah, but that's still...
08:40On Jason Tatum's part.
08:41Right, but that's still...
08:42He's like, basically, I'm going to come back if I am the guy.
08:46Sorry, Jalen.
08:47No, he's not.
08:48You can take a backseat.
08:50No.
08:52I don't know where you're going with that one, that one.
08:54I think he's looking at it like, Jalen has done an amazing job.
08:59And the chemistry that this team has had with Jalen has been spectacular.
09:04Has he said that?
09:05No, no, I'm saying...
09:06No, but has Jason Tatum said...
09:07No, he hasn't said that.
09:08It's incredible what Jalen Brown has done with his team in my absence.
09:11No, I mean, I didn't hear that.
09:13I haven't heard him say that.
09:14I mean, he's been on 16 podcasts.
09:15What has Jalen Brown said about this season and how much he's enjoying it?
09:19He said it's one of his favorites.
09:21Yeah, it's one of...
09:22No, the best one.
09:23Yeah.
09:24The best season I've ever had.
09:26This has been my favorite season so far.
09:28My favorite.
09:29It's been my favorite season so far.
09:32Right.
09:32Because he's the guy.
09:33If you had a colleague say that when you were out, Wings, what would you think?
09:37Like, come on.
09:38Why can't we just be humans?
09:40But that's what we are, though.
09:41We are.
09:42They are being humans about it.
09:43Right.
09:43So it would bother you, right?
09:45But we all believe it bothers them.
09:47I'm asking you, Wings.
09:48Yes.
09:49But we know it bothers them.
09:50I'm asking you.
09:51Yes.
09:52Would it bother you?
09:53Yes.
09:53Okay.
09:53I believe it bothers Jason Tatum.
09:56We've always...
09:56Then we all agree.
09:58Right.
09:58But we've been agreeing.
10:01We've been agreeing on that.
10:02No, you said that it's been out of context.
10:03No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
10:05See, that's where you're wrong.
10:06Hey, check your stress level on your whoop.
10:08Let me check it.
10:09Wiggy and I are both wearing whoops.
10:11This is our new wellness journal.
10:12There it is rejoined.
10:14We both...
10:14Oh, let me check my stress level.
10:16We both got whoops.
10:17I've noticed.
10:18And because we're, you know, we're working on our beach buds.
10:21Yeah.
10:22All right.
10:22How's your sleep?
10:22Stress level's good.
10:23It is.
10:24Stress level's good.
10:25Sweeping, you know.
10:26Sleep.
10:26Sleep.
10:27Yeah, we got to work on that.
10:28You can go keep arguing with Curtis.
10:30No, no.
10:30It's not an argument.
10:31It's just...
10:32It's what I...
10:33All I've said is this.
10:34I believe that they both are a little bit like, you know...
10:40What's the word I'm looking for?
10:41Like, I feel like they're both a little bit...
10:43There's...
10:44I don't want to use friction as the word, but they both feel a certain way.
10:48This human nature.
10:48This is...
10:49Jalen Brown feels great because it's an opportunity for him to prove himself.
10:53And he's shown that.
10:54Jason Tatum is probably looking at it and going, wait a second.
10:57I'm coming back to a team that's doing so well.
11:01And there is a little concern of maybe how I fit into that team because of the role that
11:07I normally played.
11:09Like, we all agree on that.
11:11But you guys are making it seem like Tatum is not coming back because he's like, I'm pissed.
11:17I'm taking my ball and going home.
11:18Do you think when Courtney comes back after having the baby that she's going to be worried
11:24about affecting the chemistry of this show?
11:28See, but we can't have this conversation because when we go down this road, people tend to,
11:32you know, they get a little bit...
11:34No, you can have the conversation.
11:35So that we have the conversation.
11:37I won't be worried about messing with the chemistry because I...
11:40No, but the scenario we try to paint the picture on is if you had...
11:44If we had somebody to fill in for you and that person was here for three months straight...
11:50It doesn't matter.
11:51It doesn't matter.
11:52No, but it's completely different because they don't have somebody filling in.
11:56They have somebody that's already on the team.
11:57No, I know, I know, I know.
11:58But you're not...
11:59We're just talking about the emotions.
12:00But I'm asking you...
12:03When you come back, you're going to walk in here, I'm assuming, and be right back where
12:07you are when you leave.
12:09Yeah.
12:09Like, that's what it should be.
12:10Right.
12:10Like, just come back and find a way to fit in.
12:14You're a part of the team.
12:15Yeah, but I think...
12:15Like, what's the big deal?
12:16I think what Courtney was saying or we were talking about is the emotion and human nature
12:21of people's emotion to come back into a situation...
12:24I think Jason Tatum has been very honest with his emotion.
12:27Right.
12:27That's the bottom line, and I fall more, again, on the point of I don't think that the Jays
12:33let their emotions get in the way of being able to be teammates.
12:36No, and I agree with that.
12:37I think they're able to coexist, and they've shown that.
12:40But I have always said this, and, you know, there is some type...
12:45AP Dave, I always have your back, and you and Twitch right now saying that is cap.
12:49You will be very anxious and concerned to fit back in.
12:51No.
12:51You need help.
12:52Little whiny bitch.
12:53You want me to jump on the Curtis train?
12:56You'll be pissed that you made an enemy out of me.
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