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12:11Il s'est venu, et venu, et venu, et venu.
12:20Si je le ferai, je ne vais pas avoir le evidence pour montrer à la police.
12:26Donc j'ai dû juste prendre ça.
12:44Je pense que c'est fini maintenant.
12:46Je ne peux pas attendre.
12:48Je ne peux pas attendre à la police station.
12:52Je donne Grace's téléphone physiquement et je dis,
12:56ces sont les messages.
12:57Le sergent me regarde et me dit,
12:59« Ok, oui, on va prendre le casse.
13:02»
13:03Daryl est revenu de moi.
13:04Il m'a fait vivre avec moi depuis le temps.
13:08C'était un peu de celebration.
13:09Il m'a fait un peu de chocolate et tout.
13:18Grace still had this element of depression hanging over her.
13:22You know, you can feel it.
13:30The one thing that gives me comfort at this point
13:33is that there's no evidence that he necessarily knows her address.
13:41when the doorbell went,
13:42I see a parcel and a letter.
13:46toen je vais seule
13:47Laissez-leur.
13:48« What's it say? Who's it from? »
13:49Je vais juste faire le bas.
13:52Et je vois Carl's nom et je me suis dit,
13:54« F**k, f**k, f**k. »
32:04Il se fait à la fin de me, en quelque sorte.
32:07Et je suis terrifié par cela.
32:13Il s'est juste sous l'armé, comme si je m'avais dit,
32:16c'était une trombe.
32:19Ma famille et ma famille ne connaît pas mon journal,
32:23à la fois où il est.
32:25Le seul moyen que j'aurais voulu savoir
32:27c'était si j'étais en vue de la fenêtre et j'ai vu
32:30me take it out of the cupboard
32:38he's just attached himself to all of my memories now so it feels like nothing is mine
32:48seeing grace's reaction you know we like to think about was how I'd get the
32:53le journal back for and how we could try and make everything OK.
33:03After the police station, we go to my flat and I'm with my friends.
33:08We believed that he was going to come back to the scene to finish the job.
33:16And around 3am, I see him, I see me there.
33:23Smashing in the doorbell camera.
33:27Because he had done that, you couldn't see any image anymore,
33:30but you could just hear smash, smash, smash.
33:41This is pivotal now. He's there. We can get him.
33:49The boys were saying, you stay here, they're going out the door.
33:58Hello, I believe.
33:59Hi, we've got someone at the house. He's a stalker, he's at the house.
34:04He may have some weapons, I don't know.
34:05OK, where are you?
34:07I think she's there now.
34:25So as we approach the house, blue lights seem to be everywhere.
34:31I'm doing danger, on the door, on your fucking face. Get down, down.
34:37Have a cold, man. Have a cold.
34:40Why, just get out the car.
34:43It's all right, boys.
34:45This is you.
34:46This is you.
34:48I'm not going after you.
34:50I'm not going after you.
34:52Carl Chad, you are under arrest for threats to kill, stalking, criminal damage and burglary.
34:59You understand?
35:00I have got nothing to say. I'm not guilty for anything.
35:03Fantastic. That is up to you.
35:03Thank you.
35:10Yeah, you can hear him.
35:12But it's frustrating because it wasn't taken seriously and then look at what it's come to.
35:18It's being dealt with now.
35:19Yeah. Now?
35:21What if they were inside? She could be dead. End of story.
35:30Is that Grace on the phone?
35:31It's Grace.
35:32We've got the journal.
35:33You've got the journal, they've got the journal.
35:35Hello, Grace.
35:37Obviously, it's going to be coming with us for now, just as evidence.
35:45The only thing that I could take from it was, at least he can't do this now to somebody else.
35:55Hello.
35:57At the end of the day, he's been nicked, which I know was hurt at the end of the day.
36:01You know, you're safe. Daryl's safe.
36:04And that's the main thing.
36:06He was in his backpack, like they have in there.
36:09Um, he had a fire door key.
36:13I couldn't access, um, obviously, other buildings.
36:19I was told that that's essentially a security key that opens up a lot of doors, basically.
36:27When he's looking around his bag in the video, I think that's what he's looking for.
36:34To try and just quietly get through the door.
36:42You have attended a location of a person broken into that house and had in your possession condoms.
36:52Seven.
36:53OK.
36:57He had seven extra lube condoms, two kind of wine glasses, a bottle of wine in there as well.
37:08As we discussed earlier in the interview, you were believed to have mentioned, and I will quote it again,
37:13I will rape your girlfriend in front of you.
37:18I felt in a strange way vindicated, like, ha, I told you.
37:23But then I realised what it is that I'm talking about.
37:25It's like, I really wish that I was wrong about that, actually.
37:28I need you to really listen and take on board what I'm about to say to you at this point.
37:34It's very important, OK?
37:35I'm now going to give you a special warning under the Police and Criminal Evidence Act.
37:41Carl was arrested and he was charged with two counts of stalking of fear of violence,
37:46two burglary charges, property damage and trespassing to commit a relevant sexual offence.
37:54What were you planning to do with the condoms?
37:57No comment.
38:02Hey, John.
38:05You want a tip tonight, right?
38:09Yeah?
38:10Mummy.
38:12My lovely little girl.
38:15She was only about two.
38:19I mean, there was plenty nights that you was like,
38:22am I going to actually wake up and my daughter's dead?
38:26Yeah.
38:27Hey, hey, hey, hey.
38:29Sorry.
38:32You know, it's just so horrible.
38:37That someone can just appear in your life and just turn it upside down and...
38:43Oh.
38:45It's just horrible.
38:46Sorry.
38:51Yeah, I look back and think, I wish I'd try to find where he is.
38:59And in hindsight, maybe I would have done it if I thought the police weren't bothering.
39:06What are you going to do?
39:07Your father's probably not violent or yours, but your own daughter.
39:10What are you going to do?
39:12What are you going to do?
39:29I'm going to do it.
39:37What did you do?
39:38What are you going to do?
39:42Donc, c'est bruf-di, il n'y a pas de tu.
39:48L'année dernière était absolument incroyable.
39:50Je suis juste très heureux de ce qu'elle était capable d'être là.
39:54Je ne pouvais pas entendre, parce que mon cœur était breaking.
40:00Le trial s'arrêté pour la première semaine de June,
40:03c'est mon anniversaire, et j'ai dû testifier sur mon anniversaire.
40:11Je ne voulais pas Karl de voir moi.
40:13Je ne voulais pas plus inflame ses obsessions.
40:18Je ne voulais pas savoir si il était allé à sortir ou non.
40:23Il a juste venu avec une wilde, wilde version de l'événage.
40:29Il a essayé de dire qu'on avait une sorte de relation sexuelle.
40:35On a kissé.
40:37Elle a dit, elle dit, je peux être la bonne fille pour vous.
40:45Elle m'a dit, je me suis dit.
40:47Nous avons eu de sa place.
40:49Je n'ai acheté un portail et un mason hamper.
40:53You had sexual intercourse with Miss Hallam
40:57Correct, yes
41:02Complete, absolute rubbish
41:04He's just sitting there nodding along
41:05Nodding along like he still believed it even there
41:08Which can prove not to be correct
41:11I feel like my heart's been ripped out of my chest
41:18To relive everything, it was absolutely horrible
41:21I was sobbing the whole way through
41:22Whilst staring directly at him
41:25What was that like?
41:28I worked out from that point, he has no soul
41:40So it's definitely one of her favourites
41:42I think she's going to love it
41:47The trial was very disturbing for Daryl
41:51I'm going to blow your fucking head off
41:55And I'm going to fuck your missing right in front of you
42:01The most important charge going was
42:03Trespass to commit a sexual act
42:06Because that's why he was there
42:18What do you think it's taught her?
42:22I don't think it's taught her anything
42:24I think it's made her go inside herself more
42:28And she's gone inside herself so much
42:32And it kills me
42:32Because she was so out there beforehand
42:37Um
42:39Yeah, sir
42:55I had a whole support network attend the trial
42:59To let Carl know that I'm not alone
43:02I do have a lot of friends and family
43:04That love me, that care about me
43:08I can't cry, I've got make-up on
43:10Fucking hell
43:15You're not going to hurt me
43:16Because they are going to stop you
43:22Surprise!
43:25We completely packed the courtroom
43:32So then it comes to the jury to pass judgment
43:36They quite quickly find him guilty of most charges
43:52The one that they still haven't decided is the sexual acts
44:00I'm pacing an entire day there
44:03As they're waiting to give the verdict
44:07Maybe he'd get off
44:10You know, the most important charge
44:12And I don't know if Grace would have been able to live with that
44:41Yeah, after about 50, it's basically just a lot
44:45Sorry, we got a quick speech
44:49We were told that we had such significant evidence
44:53That it was hard to look away from it
44:56You know, we managed to put away someone
44:59Who was extremely dangerous to society
45:01All right, so
45:04Took the stand a year ago on your birthday
45:08I feel very, very fortunate
45:11Being in the survivor camp
45:15And whilst I'm very pleased that
45:18He has got the sentence that he has
45:21And that I'm safe for the time that he's in
45:24It didn't have to get to this point
45:36We brought today the Grace Hallam Heroic Award
45:41We've named it after you
45:43I'll always be in the enduring Carl period
45:47No matter what
45:47Even if he decides in his own mind
45:50Oh, I'm going to change
45:51I'll never know that
45:52So I'm always going to be vigilant
45:54I'm always going to be watching my back forever
45:57Happy birthday to you
46:02Happy birthday to you
46:08So, yeah, I'm not the same person that I was before
46:14I wish the handles for the island ramp
46:16Thank you
47:07Happy birthday to you
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