00:00Yeah, is George Pickens going to be a cowboy or not?
00:03And if he is, what kind of contract is he going to have?
00:05Let's talk about it in Below the Belt, which is sponsored by Academy Sports and Outdoors,
00:10as well as Window Nation.
00:11RJ Chaffee, thank you for the coffee.
00:13Hey.
00:13It's very strong.
00:14It's very, it's exceedingly hot, though.
00:16That's the only thing.
00:17I want to be able to just, like, pound it like I would shots, and I just can't do it
00:21right now.
00:21194 degrees.
00:22Dude, it feels like it.
00:24It's piping right now, but very, very good.
00:27Let's turn your mic up.
00:28Brian.
00:28You'd walked away.
00:29So we turned it down.
00:30What's up, Brian?
00:30Did you ever find the Red Bull can?
00:32No.
00:32I have no idea where it went.
00:33I think it's in RJ's bag.
00:35I'm accusing RJ right now recklessly of stealing it.
00:37Oh, no.
00:37RJ Chaffee with the Red Bull can.
00:39Somehow it fell in.
00:40In his, what is that, the Goodyear bag?
00:44This is a North Face bag, sir.
00:46I'm guessing it just, like.
00:47I'm the one with the Goodyear bag.
00:48How could it disappear?
00:49I don't know.
00:50How?
00:51I don't know.
00:52I got a Penguin bag at home.
00:53I'm thinking of switching it to, though.
00:55Oh, really?
00:55Yeah.
00:56I can't figure out what happened to it.
00:57What kind of golf bag do you have, Chaffee?
01:00Right now, I have a TaylorMade bag.
01:02Okay.
01:02It's okay.
01:03It's not my favorite.
01:04I bought it at a, I won it at a silent auction at a golf tournament.
01:08There you go.
01:09All right.
01:10Let's talk about George Pickens.
01:11Enough about the bags.
01:13Let's talk about George Pickens' bag.
01:14Hey, why don't you just do the below the belt thing?
01:15That's what we're doing here.
01:17We're talking about George Pickens getting the bags.
01:18With a little pace.
01:19Yeah.
01:19A little pace.
01:20Oh, look at this.
01:21You're learning.
01:22You're learning, Brian.
01:23It's like the coffee paralyzed him.
01:26He's ready to go.
01:27You guys are slowing him down.
01:28Yeah.
01:29He's going to give you the goods right here on the home of the Cowboys.
01:32Goodness.
01:33All right.
01:33This lady walking by, she'd score 25 in the low post on you.
01:36What did George...
01:38John...
01:38Brian.
01:40100% heard that.
01:41Gosh!
01:43Holy...
01:43She looked right at me.
01:45God.
01:46No way.
01:46Right at me.
01:47Now, maybe she...
01:47That needs to be clipped for G-Bag with the video of her walking by.
01:51Maybe she just wanted to sit on old Rocky Top.
01:55Okay.
01:55Let's talk about...
01:56I'll tell you what, man.
01:57Pat Summitt could have done some good with her on that.
02:00John...
02:00Okay.
02:01We're done doing this.
02:02We're done with this.
02:03Oh, my God.
02:03Bobby's getting uncomfortable.
02:04The right leg is shaking.
02:06Oh, my God.
02:07Am I right, though?
02:09Am I right?
02:09I mean...
02:10I didn't look.
02:11I was scared to listen to that tall.
02:13Stacey Dales is taller than her.
02:14She might be 6'2".
02:15She's tall.
02:15Stacey Dales played at Oklahoma.
02:17Stacey Dales was a WNBA player.
02:19I know.
02:20So, that counts.
02:21Oh, man.
02:21All right.
02:22Good week.
02:22Let's talk about George Pickens.
02:24You read off your text earlier.
02:26Your confirmation, Brian.
02:27She's 6'2".
02:286'1".
02:296'2".
02:306'1".
02:316'2".
02:32Something like that.
02:32All right, Brian.
02:33You read off your text earlier.
02:34George Pickens.
02:36Expectation.
02:36He's going to be tagged today?
02:37Yes.
02:38Expectations today.
02:39So, the Cowboys will finally get that done.
02:40They'll slap the tag on him.
02:42Obviously, a big part of this week in Indianapolis is you run around and you look for people
02:47to talk to who know more than you about certain situations.
02:50Which is everybody in this building.
02:51Yes.
02:52Just about.
02:52We look for...
02:54Don't say anything.
02:55We look for more people around here that know more things than we do about whatever's
03:01developing.
03:01Or, what have you already discussed since you've been out here?
03:04What have you learned?
03:04What have you figured out?
03:05So, here's what I think is what we're facing.
03:09They're going to slap the tag on George Pickens.
03:12I think that given what we heard from Stephen Jones and given what you hear around the streets
03:19of Indianapolis, you should believe them when they say, no, we're not on a timeline.
03:25Once we slap the tag on him, we got him.
03:27He's ours.
03:28For two years.
03:28He's here.
03:29Yeah.
03:29For two years, maybe.
03:30So, I think once the tag is on him, they don't feel a rush to get a negotiation going.
03:37And, similarly...
03:38But why?
03:39But why?
03:40Because at that point...
03:41Be Jerry and Stephen and I'll counter you.
03:43It's March and April.
03:44We got things to do here.
03:46We got free agency ahead of us.
03:47We're going to knock that out.
03:48You guys don't believe that training camp is important, then?
03:54Training camp isn't until July.
03:56We got March and April.
03:57Okay.
03:57We're going to focus on that.
03:58We'll talk to you after that.
03:59Well, Micah Parsons...
04:00March and April aren't mini camps.
04:01Micah Parsons and CeeDee Lamb and Zach Martin all missed into training camp.
04:08You guys are...
04:09Those guys were under contract.
04:10We've got a tag on him, but those guys were under contract.
04:14He's right.
04:15Those guys were under contract.
04:17They were tagged.
04:18They were holdouts.
04:20We're not going to fight with somebody who's not under contract and just not showing up for stuff.
04:23He's tagged, but he's, you know...
04:25Those guys were under contract.
04:26They were supposed to be here.
04:28If he's not here, I mean, we'd like him here, but he's not...
04:31But if you tag me, aren't I under contract?
04:33No.
04:33You have to sign him.
04:34You have to sign the tag.
04:35Okay.
04:36And so you have until...
04:37And you have until week eight or whatever?
04:38You have until July 15th, I believe it is, to get an extension done.
04:42And then you have until week eight after that to sign the tag and still be active for the year.
04:46The longer things go, the more acrimony builds.
04:49Yeah.
04:50I think so.
04:51Jero will get really mad.
04:52There's two...
04:53Are we still doing the exercise, or are you just making a point?
04:56No.
04:57I was trying to make a point.
04:57I was sure if you were saying, like, George Pickens, like, guys, log your tag us out.
05:00Jero will get mad at him again.
05:01Yeah.
05:02Feelings develop.
05:03I think we need to read into something here.
05:05I really do.
05:06I think these players are starting to tell, every time we hear them, it's, hey, sign George.
05:12Sign George.
05:13They went through this whole thing last year with Pickens.
05:15No.
05:16There's 100% of concern for them.
05:19They are...
05:19The players are honestly concerned that Jerry is going to get mad and move on from George Pickens.
05:25I think the players also believe that George will just say, all right, fine.
05:31Slap the tag on me.
05:32Maybe we work something out.
05:33But, you know, we're not going to be active and involved right away.
05:37But you can at the right number.
05:41Yeah.
05:41Let's cut...
05:42Let's get down to business.
05:43All right?
05:43We did it with Aubrey.
05:44We've done it all week long.
05:45I don't think they're...
05:46I don't think they've given them a number this week.
05:48I don't think they're going to give them a number this week.
05:50What do you think David Mulliguetis...
05:51And by they, I mean the Cowboys.
05:52I don't think the Cowboys have...
05:54I don't think the Cowboys are ready necessarily to talk numbers.
05:57Let's start here.
05:58What do you think David Mulliguetis' per-year ask is?
06:02I have no idea.
06:03I don't think...
06:04I mean, I know...
06:04Jamar's 40.
06:05I don't believe they've made one.
06:06But...
06:07I'm not saying.
06:08When it happens.
06:09When it happens, what will the number be, do you believe?
06:1236.
06:1336.
06:13I think their number will depend on what they hear from the Cowboys.
06:16I think they want the Cowboys to give them a number.
06:19And then it's like, all right, we'll volley back to you.
06:21Okay.
06:22Cowboys number I'm going to give you is...
06:25Will the Cowboys' first offer be higher than CD?
06:29CD's at 34.
06:31I think they will.
06:32Does that create acrimony...
06:34Do you think the Cowboys' first offer will be higher than that?
06:36I think Mulliguet is asking for 36.
06:38I'm sorry.
06:39I think that the Cowboys are going...
06:41They're going lower.
06:42My apologies.
06:43Because would that create...
06:44Yeah, but they can't...
06:45Hang on.
06:46I know you're going to go to the locker room.
06:47Let's just finish the negotiation real quick.
06:49DK's at 33.
06:51So, he has to get at least 33.
06:54And I would make it nice, simple, sweet, and be like, y'all are boys, y'all are best friends.
06:581A, 1B, 34.
07:00Now, if you think they're going to ask for 36, we're good.
07:03We're good in terms of figuring this out at a $2 million difference.
07:07Sure.
07:07If that's the case.
07:08We're all doing a hypothetical exercise.
07:10Well, it's not working out for our kicker, because it seems like, to me, you know, Dallas is trying to
07:18go north of the highest-paid kicker by a little bit.
07:23Right.
07:24That's a good point.
07:25And France just blew you out of the water.
07:26Also, though, like, wanting $3 million more than $7 million is different than wanting $2 million more than $3 million.
07:32Dallas is going to tender him 5.8.
07:34Are we right about that?
07:35Is that right, Bout?
07:36Probably.
07:36For the second-round tender?
07:38Probably, yeah.
07:39So, they're going lower than the best kicker by a million dollars.
07:45But the other two instances in which we're discussing are the best at their position.
07:51He had Micah as the best.
07:53You could be the best defensive player in the league.
07:55You have the argument.
07:56And Aubrey's the best kicker argument.
07:58You don't have that with George.
08:00No, but again.
08:01So, hopefully that does not make him ask for over 40.
08:05I don't think he will ask for over 40.
08:08I mean, I don't know what he's going to ask for.
08:10But I would say that.
08:11We know.
08:12I'd say slightly below Lamb.
08:14I would guess.
08:15Okay.
08:15So, that would be 33.
08:16You think that's what he asks for?
08:18I think he's going to ask for 36.
08:23I think the Cowboys are going to offer 33.
08:25And they're going to somewhere get in between that.
08:28I don't think they get a long-term deal done this year.
08:31I'm just trying to think.
08:32I'm going to predict they do.
08:33That's disappointing.
08:34I'm going to predict an extension gets done before camp.
08:36I don't think it should be this hard.
08:38I don't think it should be this hard.
08:39If the Cowboys are willing to.
08:41I think he ultimately just agrees to sign the tag or he gets traded.
08:45So, you think he'll play under the tag?
08:47I don't think he'll play under the tag.
08:49I don't.
08:49I think they'll have to be in a standoff for a little bit.
08:54But, I mean, I think that if he plays here, it will be on the tag.
08:57I don't think he plays here in a long-term extension.
08:59I'll tell you what.
09:01Why not?
09:02Because I don't know that the Cowboys are ready to, like, get there.
09:05Ready to what?
09:05I don't think they're ready to commit to the number that it would probably take to get it done.
09:11Because of his other stuff?
09:12Just because of the way that they looked at it.
09:14All right, you've had, you know, we acquired you on, like, where we're kind of buying low.
09:20We're going to come in here.
09:21We're going to try it.
09:22We're going to pay a little bit of a premium.
09:23We want you to be here.
09:24But I think that they routinely throughout their negotiation history, they just kind of go,
09:30Well, show us again.
09:32Show us again.
09:33That's the way they approach things typically.
09:34Even for Dak, Demarcus Lawrence, Amari Cooper, guys like that, they will sit there and make them wait.
09:39The only ones they really get ahead of, like, really ahead of on the big-time deals, are, like, have
09:44been Zeke in recent years.
09:45They're the guys that get deals off.
09:46They get that cut them breaks.
09:48People enter into marriages in less time than the Cowboys do decide whether they want to keep a player or
09:53not.
09:53Yeah.
09:54It's like, how hard is it?
09:54You just watch them for a year, wreck shop on the entire league.
09:58You saw a league, like, have some questions on which guy we need to focus on more.
10:05No, it wasn't the questions.
10:06They went after George Pickens is what they did.
10:09So, I told you this.
10:11No, I have a question about the personality.
10:14My dream scenario would be tagging him, him playing the whole year, and then waiting to see the second year
10:24of good behavior.
10:25That's me.
10:25Now, I've gotten burned by that in the past, wanting to wait on Dak.
10:29I got burned.
10:29He balled out.
10:30Had to pay more.
10:31I'm not ready.
10:32See, I think when the Cowboys pay, and someone was talking about this the other day.
10:37I can't remember who.
10:37I think they apply a leadership tax to some of these deals.
10:43And based upon what I've heard in these conversations, that's not coming along with this package if you get George
10:49here long-term.
10:50And I'm fine with that.
10:51You don't have to be a leader.
10:53Yeah.
10:53You know, George doesn't act and fake it like Micah did.
10:58I'll say it.
10:59And I got that confirmed to me yesterday.
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