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00:00Hello, I'm Angela Scanlon and welcome to The Apprentice Unfinished Business, where we'll
00:04be digging into all the post-task weeds and the predictable boardroom blunders.
00:09And if you haven't caught up yet, pop over to BBC iPlayer to watch episode 5 of The Apprentice.
00:15Coming up, Lord Sugar tells us exactly how he would have pruned and prodded and perfected
00:21the whole bloomin' thing. Plus, fired candidate Vanessa reflects on her time in the process
00:26from the highs to the proper prickly bits.
00:29And I won't be tending this garden alone. I'm joined by my celeb apprentice teammate Shazia Mirza
00:35and he's back by popular demand, Mike Soutar. It is time for The Apprentice Unfinished Business.
00:46Shazia and Mike, welcome!
00:49Brilliant!
00:50And it feels so good!
00:53Back with the old crew, hey?
00:56We were obviously on the Christmas special of The Apprentice.
01:00Oh, some bad memories though, yeah?
01:02Is it a little triggering for you?
01:03It is.
01:04We had a laugh. I think it's really good too. We're reunited.
01:07We had a butt and we won!
01:09Well listen, you guys had a laugh. I had to go around making notes.
01:14You had a laugh at our expense.
01:16Well yes.
01:17Yes.
01:17I certainly had an arched eyebrow.
01:19Right, well we get on to this week's task. It started a little differently. Shall we remind
01:24ourselves?
01:26Hello.
01:27Good morning.
01:28Could you ask the candidates to meet me out there in the garden, yeah?
01:32Yes.
01:33OK.
01:37Girls!
01:38Bye!
01:39Bye!
01:40Bye!
01:41No she can't dance this!
01:42No she can't dance this!
01:44Stop it!
01:44Oh no!
01:46Why would you do that for me?
01:48I've not even got my nice pyjamas on!
01:51I've not even got my nice pyjamas on!
01:53She left her negligee at home, she's at work.
01:56How would you feel Shazia about being doorstepped in the chalet in Lapland by Lord Sugar?
02:01I cannot believe they opened the door, because nobody opens the door these days.
02:06We would not have opened the door.
02:07We would have looked at Lord Sugar on our camera phones and gone, no, no, we're not opening
02:13the door.
02:13Everybody pretend you're asleep.
02:15I cannot believe this must be a new thing, opening the door.
02:18I know, that's so true, isn't it?
02:21Mike, is that his usual thing?
02:22Does he tend to, you know, not rock up for an early morning strategy session?
02:27Well, like I said, I have personal experience with this.
02:29I went from meeting with him a couple of months ago at his offices, and the meeting
02:33time was 9am.
02:34So I got there, parked in his car park at 8.30am, walked in.
02:39He had been there since 7.30, properly doing business.
02:45Like, when I arrived at his office.
02:47Properly doing business.
02:48Properly doing business.
02:49He was giving some, it sounded like constructive advice or direction to somebody on the phone.
02:56Oh, well, I get that from him on a weekly basis.
02:59We've got a voice note.
03:01It's still going, Mike.
03:02You were here at 1.
03:04Lord Sugar was sending voice memos.
03:06Now, we're playing them at pace.
03:09Angela, selling flowers should be straightforward.
03:13But, once again, simplicity went out of the window for one of the teams.
03:18Boquets don't need reinventing.
03:21They need selling.
03:23Rothner impressed me because she stayed profit focused from the start.
03:28That's business.
03:29Margin first, petals second.
03:33Vanessa's team worked hard on the selling side, but their cost strategy was all over the place.
03:39And, as for the corporate client, it was about as high fashion as a high-vis jacket.
03:45The lesson?
03:47Price right.
03:48Savage.
03:48Sell confidently.
03:50Never forget.
03:51A pretty product means nothing if it doesn't make money.
03:56Look, he doesn't mince his words, does he?
03:58He's not known for it.
04:00I think when it comes to this particular task, you know, there are only a certain number of boquets that
04:05anybody's ever going to buy.
04:06Yeah.
04:07So, I think probably Vanessa's mistake here was, if you're going to create something where the raw materials are more
04:16expensive,
04:17you need to first think about what you're going to sell it at.
04:20So, if she'd gone in with a premium boquets, which was what the flowers said it was, she really had
04:26to be selling it at £70.
04:27That would have given her the margin.
04:29Then, if they could have done the volume, it would have gone from there.
04:32Yeah.
04:33So, clear kind of leaders from the start.
04:35Rothna led Team Eclipse with the garden bouquet, and then we had Vanessa, and she led Team Alpha with the
04:41tropical bouquet.
04:43There were questions over whether tropical was the right way to go from the start.
04:48They were raised by Connor, and she was quite certain that that was where she was going.
04:54Vanessa strikes me as somebody who has a vision, and I think that's really powerful.
04:59It's really important in business to know what it is that you're going to deliver.
05:02So, she wanted to do something which was distinctive and different to the rest of the marketplace, and often that
05:08can be really, really successful.
05:11But she wasn't listening to Connor.
05:13I mean, if you watch what Connor was saying throughout that whole task, he was kind of the voice of
05:18common sense, you know, but that's a bit expensive.
05:21But, you know, he was just frowning and writing down numbers in his notebook as the cost of the bouquet
05:26kept rising and rising and rising.
05:28Yeah, because it was a profit task, and it seemed like the creative juices flowed and all sense of profit
05:39went out the window.
05:40Yeah.
05:40And it caused a lot of stress, I think, for the team because Vanessa, it seemed wanted to, you know,
05:48be everywhere.
05:49I mean, I think she was amazing in the sense that she was so brave as the only one to
05:53elect herself as leader.
05:55Despite a lack of experience.
05:57Yes, because she said, does anybody else want to be a lead?
06:00Nobody was forthcoming or enthusiastic.
06:03So, she was very, okay, I'll do it, and then was very enthusiastic about that.
06:08Yeah.
06:08And, you know, putting yourself forward as a leader when you have no experience in that field, that was a
06:14brave thing to do, to stick your head above the parapet like that.
06:17But this is a profit task, Mike.
06:20So, what does it all come down, what does success look like in a task like this?
06:24Mm-hmm.
06:24So, I think in business terms, this is value creation, right?
06:28So, you buy raw materials at the cheapest price you possibly can, and then you add value to it, in
06:33this case by creating a bouquet or a bespoke backdrop, and then you charge a premium for that.
06:39So, I think that was, Rothner got that from the very beginning, didn't she?
06:43Oh, she was focused on that price and keeping it as low as humanly possible.
06:49Exactly.
06:49And so, she thought strategically about what she was putting together into that bunch of flowers.
06:53Mm-hmm.
06:54And what she managed to do with use of foliage or foliage.
06:58Foliage.
06:59Oui, oui.
07:00As we'll now always call it.
07:02You pay a premium for foliage.
07:04Yes.
07:04If you say it in French, you're 10% on top.
07:07Totally.
07:07But what I think she did really cleverly was she created something that was substantial enough.
07:13So, it looked like really good value.
07:15Yeah.
07:15So, she added value to something, and that was the thing that got them the premium, that got them the
07:21margin, that won them the task.
07:22But also, she was so focused on every single piece that went into that.
07:29You see the other team kind of going wild, putting 175 flowers, you know, in multiples.
07:36Whereas actually, they kind of deliberated over that hydrangea, going in.
07:41Oh, well done.
07:43Hydrogen.
07:44But that was a big decision, you know.
07:47And so, it felt like they never got kind of whipped up in the excitement of excess.
07:52Yeah, that's right.
07:52And I think what Rothen was really good at doing was, even when she was suggesting going down a route
07:58that not everybody loved,
07:59she would very cleverly say, I'm kind of not going to go ahead with this unless you're all behind me.
08:04Yeah.
08:04So, she was really good at bringing together the team and only progressing.
08:08So, you have great debate, and then everybody gets behind it.
08:11Yeah.
08:12Yeah, she was great.
08:13She was good like that, wasn't she?
08:14Yeah.
08:14But the thing is, they had been given a lesson in how to arrange the flowers.
08:18Like, don't put two flowers that are the same together.
08:21Yes.
08:22Which was very interesting.
08:23I didn't know that.
08:24That's what we're here for.
08:25She was so good about the foliage, foliage.
08:29Yeah.
08:29Building it up, making it bigger and making it look bigger than what it actually was.
08:34Yeah.
08:34Which is a good lesson in life.
08:36Make it look bigger than what it actually is.
08:39Because that really gets people going, doesn't it?
08:41I really get those.
08:43But she was clever like that.
08:45Yeah.
08:45Whereas the tropical flowers, they looked a bit skimpy.
08:48Like, for the amount they were charging, it didn't look like you were getting a lot.
08:53Yes.
08:53Let's talk now about sub-teams.
08:56Mike, it seemed that the sub-teams handled the corporate clients with varying degrees of success.
09:05What are the do's and don'ts?
09:06Because it's not like going out and shouting at punters to buy flowers.
09:10Yeah.
09:11With a corporate client, you're handling it presumably in a very different way.
09:14Yeah, because it's all about the personal relationship that you establish with them in the first place.
09:17And how you then take the brief and deliver on it.
09:19So, in terms of do's, I think when you're taking a brief, do always repeat back what you think the
09:26solution is to the client.
09:27Okay.
09:27You know, so if Lawrence had said, so you're after something with some devil horns on it.
09:33Okay.
09:33The client would have said, no, you're wrong there.
09:35We want something which is really high-end and show-stopping and opulent.
09:39Okay.
09:40So, that's a do.
09:41Always repeat it back.
09:41So, like speaking to a child, really.
09:43Exactly, yeah.
09:44Okay.
09:44Do we both understand what's going on here?
09:46Good.
09:46Let's go ahead and do that.
09:48You're sure.
09:48And then I think the don't is, don't let yourself be bullied.
09:51And I really liked Rajan's negotiation and the way the team handled that.
09:56Because Rajan, I think you're right to pick him out.
09:59He feels like, you know, he's stealthy.
10:02He's never too loud.
10:04But is he one to watch, do we think?
10:06Yeah, he's very measured, very professional and very calm.
10:11You know, he doesn't shout at clients or shout at his team members.
10:15It's like he's thought through what he's going to ask and what he's going to execute.
10:20And I think that comes across in his mannerisms.
10:23And I think he's very good, yeah.
10:25Yeah.
10:26Lawrence managed to get double what they started with.
10:28They offered 750 quid.
10:31Tough client, it felt like, in the room.
10:33He pushed them up to £1,500 right there.
10:38But it was a little...
10:41I think the thing with Lawrence here is, before he went into the room,
10:45he was very articulate about what you need to do.
10:48This is what we're not going to do.
10:49This is what we are going to do.
10:50We're going to listen to them.
10:51We're going to deliver on it.
10:52So we had a plan.
10:53Oh, absolutely.
10:53And then when he got into the room, he just kind of ignored it.
10:57He just didn't follow his own advice when he went into the room.
11:00And so, as a result, what you ended up with was a really muddled brief coming back to the team
11:05who were supposed to be creating the bespoke backdrop for them.
11:11I mean, I couldn't understand.
11:12The client had said, we want high-end glamour fashion.
11:16And Lawrence says, nah, nah, I don't want that.
11:19I don't want to deliver perfection.
11:20Well, it's not about you.
11:22What about the client?
11:23I'm like, it's like he's in a world of his own.
11:25He just wants to do his own thing.
11:27Yeah.
11:27And also, they didn't even know how to pronounce carnations.
11:31They called them coronations as well.
11:33Well, there were a few slip-ups in the old pronunciation game, let's be honest.
11:36And flowers stump us all.
11:38Like, spell geranium, Mike.
11:41G-E-R-A-N-I-U-N.
11:43Shut up.
11:43Hydrogens.
11:45Hydrangeas.
11:46Let's move on to the selling team.
11:49Let's move on to the selling team.
11:51Okay, Lawrence and Connor.
11:53They slightly dominated, I think, the stall, right?
11:59I think the main thing was, if you saw how badly Lawrence put together those bouquets,
12:06he's like the last person you would ever want doing that, because he'd just break the flowers.
12:10He'd be as bad as Kieran was.
12:11So he took one for the team by getting out front.
12:14So I think the right people, however it ended up being, the right people ended up making the bouquets,
12:18because they were much better at doing that.
12:20And they would have been just as good at selling.
12:22Of course.
12:23There's no doubt about that at all.
12:25But definitely, you wouldn't want Lawrence anywhere near the secateurs.
12:32Pasha and Karishma, they actually didn't really want that role, did they, in the first place?
12:38Shazia, have you ever been in a role that you didn't want or love?
12:42I've been pushed into many roles in my life.
12:44I mean, but you know me, I just get on with it.
12:47I make the best of it, you know, but I've worked in McDonald's.
12:50I've worked in Baskin Robbins.
12:52Yeah.
12:52I was also a science teacher in an Eastern Comprehensive for a long time.
12:56Were you?
12:57Yeah.
12:57What, biology or chemistry?
12:59Biology and chemistry and physics to GCSE.
13:01All the sciences.
13:02Oh, yeah.
13:03Oh, yeah.
13:03I mean, I know all about the hydrogens.
13:07I've done the periodic table.
13:09I knew about that.
13:09But the thing is, I hated it, but I did it.
13:15They hated me as well.
13:16I mean, the kids hated me and I hated them.
13:17I cannot imagine the kids hating you.
13:19It was mutual.
13:20But the thing is, I did it for a long time to get to do what I really wanted to
13:25do.
13:26And sometimes you have to do that.
13:27You have to do things that you don't like, which give you skills and confidence to get
13:32you to get where you want to be.
13:34As long as you have that vision and you think, I know I don't like this, but I'm going to
13:39do it because eventually I'm going to get to do what I really want to do.
13:42Also, I think no matter what you're thrown into, you can kind of reframe it to go, if
13:47you can make a 13 year old laugh, you can make anyone laugh.
13:50Do you know what I mean?
13:50Oh, they weren't laughing then.
13:51No, okay.
13:52She's cold her craft since.
13:54It's fine.
13:54But I've got the skills of kind of standing there, the confidence, you know, keeping them
13:59entertained.
13:59I've got all those skills from there.
14:01And then I took them and I use them in my, what I do now.
14:04Yeah.
14:05Okay.
14:05It is time to welcome back our fired candidate gang who, having blossomed in parts, has sadly
14:10not quite made the cut for Lord Sugar's apprentice.
14:14Let's go back to the moment that she was fired.
14:17Vanessa, I don't think you led this team very well at all.
14:21In fact, I think far too much money was spent on flowers and also the manufacturing of
14:29the bouquets was a joke, a complete and utter joke.
14:34And on that basis, Vanessa, you're fired.
14:39Thank you very much.
14:41What a good luck.
14:43Good luck.
14:46Good luck.
14:48Vanessa is here.
14:51Hi.
14:52Hi.
14:53Welcome.
14:55How was it watching that back?
14:58It was something, I think.
15:00It was definitely something.
15:02Just watching myself back, I felt like I could see myself giving up.
15:05I kind of think I knew where it was going.
15:07Okay.
15:08But I'm happy with the way I handled it.
15:10I was all smiles, even though I was crying inside.
15:14I think you handled it with like dignity and grace, which we love to see.
15:19Yeah.
15:20Let's talk, Vanessa, about your decision to go up for PM.
15:24Yeah.
15:24You know, and as you mentioned, really brave.
15:27There's so many people who just kind of hang back and you were like, I'm ready.
15:31I'm ready to go.
15:33Was it the right moment to step up?
15:36No, absolutely not.
15:37I wasn't ready.
15:39Sorry.
15:39So the thing with me, myself, putting myself as PM, I feel like from like previous boardrooms,
15:43it was kind of alluded to whatever I've been doing.
15:45I was like, I'm not making enough noise.
15:46I am not a wallflower.
15:48I literally, I don't think there's any room I've ever entered that you don't know I'm there.
15:51So my thing is I'm going to notice this is not good enough.
15:53I need to do something bold.
15:55And I did that.
15:56And yeah, it got me fired.
15:58Well, honestly, you were fabulous.
16:00Yeah.
16:00Your PM style.
16:01Had you kind of thought about that?
16:03Did it emerge as you were going or what kind of style were you going for?
16:08So with my PM style, I think my, cause I, my day to day is kind of doing, dealing with
16:13teams as well.
16:14I am quite like strict with the way I do stuff.
16:17But I think again, from previous boardrooms, it was alluded to that I was a bit too strict.
16:20So I was like, cool.
16:21When I get a chance to be PM, I'm going to be, I'm going to give people a chance.
16:24I'm going to give them a chance to be heard.
16:25I wish I never did that.
16:27I'll be real.
16:27I wish I never did that.
16:28I wish I went in full guns blazing.
16:31Absolutely how I am literally like, no, no, no, no, no.
16:33I really want everyone to feel like they were, they were heard and they were considered,
16:37but no, do you know what?
16:38No, this is actually my world.
16:40One of the things I really liked about your leadership style.
16:42I could kind of tell that you're an experienced leader because you, when people in your team
16:47were getting into trouble, like the guys building the catastrophic flower wall, you didn't stand
16:54back and kind of blame them and think, well, if this fails, I can throw them under the bus.
17:00You rolled your sleeves up and you got involved.
17:02You were so visible.
17:04You, you really showed that hard work ethic.
17:07I think that's so important.
17:09Yeah.
17:10I mean, that was one thing I, one thing I always do is I throw myself, fully immerse myself
17:14anything I do.
17:15And I also don't believe in, if I can say something, I'll try my best without having to throw
17:19other people in.
17:20I don't like that.
17:21I don't believe in like pushing someone else.
17:23I'm just going to save myself.
17:24And I think to your point, Mike, that a lot of people do hang back.
17:28They see disaster and they think, do you know what?
17:30I can just detach myself, have no part to play in that, but you were right in, which
17:35in a way sometimes felt like you were, you couldn't decide where to be, but actually
17:40that you were, you were leading and getting involved where it needed.
17:44Yeah.
17:44It was quite hard because it was almost as if, so we had seven, seven people on the other
17:48team had eight.
17:49It was like damned if you do, damned if you don't, because either side was going to be
17:52disadvantage with one less hand.
17:54So I thought as a leader, the best thing you can do is make sure both sides kind of had
17:58extra hands when needed.
18:00And obviously with the corporate client being a sure bet, I just thought it made more sense
18:04for me to focus my energy there and make sure that was done at least.
18:06Yeah.
18:07But we completely missed the brief because I didn't get told high fashion.
18:10I got told something else and that's what we delivered.
18:13Yeah.
18:14A little bit annoyed.
18:15Vanessa, you relied on the sub team to manage the corporate client.
18:18And when you actually turned up on the day, things didn't quite go to plan, did they?
18:23Shall we remind ourselves?
18:24Can you talk me through which elements you feel are high fashion here?
18:28With high fashion, I definitely didn't get that passed on.
18:31But I think with the bright colours, you really can't walk past this and miss it.
18:35For me, this clashes.
18:36It's just not this show and it's not this brief.
18:39So we can't honour that original quote.
18:41So, yeah, if possible, if you do, like, I know we said 1,500, are we able to get to
18:46the 1,200 mark?
18:47Like, we'll recognise the labour and the time and can offer you a thousand pounds for
18:51it.
18:52Ultimately, this isn't something that we're going to use.
18:55Oh, dear.
18:56It's quite uncomfortable to watch that one.
18:58It was sick.
18:59When you realised that the feedback of high fashion hadn't actually been shared with you,
19:04what were you thinking?
19:05I wanted that flower wall to swallow me up.
19:06I thought, I thought this is ridiculous because that was, that was missed.
19:10That was completely missed.
19:11High fashion is such a statement within itself.
19:13I'm literally a fashion designer.
19:15I know what high fashion is.
19:16I know what avant-garde is.
19:16I could have done so much better.
19:18Should I have been given just that, those two words, high fashion.
19:21I wasn't given that.
19:22And now I'm having to salvage something that looks like, I don't even know.
19:25Something that looks like, I don't even know.
19:26I don't even know what it looks like.
19:27It just doesn't look good.
19:29I don't know.
19:29At that point, I think I just, I had accepted my fate.
19:32And I thought, yeah, it's a wrap.
19:34It's a wrap.
19:36That creativity, I think, came through.
19:38It came through in your passion for the task and the energy that you brought to it.
19:42Do you think that maybe you got a little wrapped up when you were creating the bouquets?
19:47Within an hour, there were four bouquets made.
19:50There was chat about finessing them about, you know, all of the kind of creative side of it.
19:55But it felt like maybe the profit side was lost.
20:00What took so long?
20:02I don't understand why we had only done four.
20:05I think they all try and find, we found it quite hard to kind of put bouquets together.
20:09Other team has expertise in making bouquets.
20:11We didn't.
20:12We were all literally just floating around, quite literally like bees around, flowers, no idea what to do.
20:17So I think the issue with us focused on more aesthetics rather than the actual flowers was because I like
20:23nice things.
20:24I'm not going to pretend I don't like nice things.
20:25I like expensive things as well.
20:26So my thing was, if it looks nice, I can charge a price for it.
20:30I'm not going to pretend that I don't like nice things.
20:32So I definitely didn't go away to think about profit.
20:34I thought more, if it looks nice, you can sell something that looks nice for anything.
20:37And you were kind of blinded by the brilliance of your bouquet, rightly so.
20:42Shazia, how much would you have paid for it?
20:44I mean, I've gone for pretty over profit many times in my life.
20:48A pretty man, pretty man with no money.
20:50I've had that a lot of times.
20:53So we all, we all succumb to that mistake sometimes.
20:57So I understand you going for pretty over profit because people like nice things.
21:02They look at something and they go, I like that.
21:04And like you said about the tropical aspect of it.
21:07You know, you want to transport people to like Barbados or somewhere tropical.
21:11Did you bring the right candidates back into the boardroom with you?
21:15I think that's the big question on everyone's mind.
21:18And it was an emphasis on me bringing the wrong person back in.
21:21I stand by my decision.
21:23I think in that task, there were a lot of really good candidates.
21:26I think equally really good candidates who've done notable things across the weeks.
21:30So it would have been hard to pick someone anyway.
21:33For me at that moment, I had to think about myself and I thought, okay, cool.
21:37If I'm going to go up against people, who does it make sense that they haven't had that much praise?
21:41They haven't been highlighted.
21:42They haven't done anything notable.
21:44And that's what my decision was based on.
21:46Lawrence as well.
21:46I think being the sub PM, he was really enthusiastic about kind of trying to get us to win.
21:50And I could see that watching it back that he really did try as well.
21:53But I had to, I just couldn't let go of the high fashion thing because how do you miss that?
21:57How do you actually miss high fashion?
21:59Unforgivable.
22:00Another thing I just wanted to highlight was that with the other candidates, all really, really well spoken.
22:04I've always said to myself, I've got a lot of chats.
22:07I've always said to myself, if I go up and I'm in the bottom three, I want to go against
22:10people who I know can defend themselves.
22:12And I think Lawrence and Pasha are just that.
22:13They speak, they can talk really, really well.
22:15So I thought, I've got to fight in.
22:17I've got two people who can fight equally as well.
22:19And I'll throw everything I have in there.
22:20For going down.
22:21Yeah.
22:22But yeah, I stand by my decision.
22:25But that feels like a brilliantly thought out strategic choice of people to go in.
22:30Do you feel it was the right care?
22:32I mean, I'm not sure I would have chosen the two most articulate people in my team to then have
22:37a kind of a semi-legal argument.
22:39Like yourself.
22:40I mean, no disrespect, but you know, Priyash, for example, you know, who was kind of culpable for quite a
22:49lot of mistakes.
22:49And the ones he, when he wasn't making a mistake, he was kind of looking around a bit.
22:53Yeah.
22:54So I was with Priyash on the second day.
22:56And when it came down to like the labour, Priyash really put his back into it.
23:00So I wouldn't feel true to myself bringing someone back for the sure factor of I know that I could
23:04probably out talk them.
23:05There was a lovely moment with you and Carrington as she was leaving the boardroom.
23:11How did that make you feel?
23:13Yeah, that made me feel, it made me feel warm.
23:15I think it gave me the final push I needed.
23:18So myself and Carrington had a bond from almost immediately from boardroom zero when she was announced.
23:23And her telling me that you've got this was like the final push I needed.
23:26I feel like I gave it my absolute all that I could at that point.
23:30But yeah, and I know that she was really upset to not see me come back because I think everyone
23:34in that house kind of nails a fighter.
23:35I fight for what I believe in.
23:36I stand for what I believe in as well.
23:38But when the odds are stacked against you, there's absolutely nothing.
23:41When the odds are stacked against you, a low sugar stacked against you, there's absolutely nothing.
23:44You can do what I'm saying.
23:46Well, you went down in a blaze of glory.
23:49But you were absolutely glorious.
23:52Glorious.
23:52Okay, it is that part of the show where our guests choose a little soundtrack moment.
24:00So a song each that represents how this task went.
24:04Shall we have yours first, Shazia?
24:06Yes, this is a tribute to the high fashion that never happened.
24:11This is She's in Fashion.
24:13Of course.
24:21This is a bit of you, isn't it?
24:28Nice.
24:30Little suede moment there.
24:32And Mike?
24:33Well, listen, I couldn't resist going back into the mid-90s to the UK garage scene with this absolute proper
24:40banger.
24:43Before it made!
24:45Oh, yeah!
24:48I love that one.
24:50Driving me insane.
24:51Yeah.
24:52Good.
24:52That was a real life one.
24:56I didn't realise you were so young, Mike.
24:59So hip.
25:00Hang on.
25:03There's a compliment in there somewhere.
25:06I'll pick that out later.
25:08Right.
25:08Shall we move on to task six?
25:11Halfway through.
25:12Can you even believe it?
25:13Time flies, doesn't it?
25:14When you're having fun.
25:15Okay.
25:16Our candidates are packing their bags as they head off to Egypt to host, what could go wrong?
25:21A corporate away day.
25:23Let's have a look at the global chaos.
25:26We just, where's the rest of the parsley?
25:28The...
25:29The leaves.
25:30The leaves, yeah.
25:30Throwing them away.
25:31We need them.
25:32That's what we needed.
25:33I've thrown them away.
25:34What did you throw away?
25:35He threw the parsley away.
25:36I threw the leaves.
25:37Why would...
25:38I thought you meant, you said cut them off.
25:39Yeah, I threw the stems away.
25:40Oh, you're kidding me.
25:42Where is it?
25:42In the bin?
25:43Yeah.
25:44I put them in the bin.
25:46Yeah, I can't use that in the hat.
25:47No, obviously you can't use that.
25:48What was that for the curry?
25:49Yeah.
25:50The curry?
25:51Yeah.
25:51Oh, okay, okay, okay.
25:5430 second rule.
25:55Whip them out and go for it.
25:56Nobody saw.
25:57Yeah, that's what we would have done.
25:58That's what we did do.
26:03That's insane.
26:04I can't believe that.
26:05What do we think of this task?
26:06I mean, this looks like an absolute cracker, doesn't it?
26:09Also, I think we saw them a little discombobulated in Hong Kong.
26:13So do we think that kind of taking people out of their comfort zone away somewhere exotic slightly, you know,
26:21throws them off the scent?
26:22I mean, look, I'm sure, as Vanessa would agree, it is a discombobulating process anyway, right?
26:28Yeah.
26:28You're doing everything at turbo speed.
26:31You're being thrown into things you've never done before.
26:34It really tests you.
26:35I think if you also take, you're also taken out of this country and into somewhere else, that's a real
26:42test.
26:42I mean, I'm really looking forward to this.
26:44I hope that what the candidates do is remember the two golden rules, though, of corporate entertaining.
26:50Tell us.
26:50One is, whatever you're putting on, whatever show or piece of entertainment you put on, keep it brisk.
26:55Keep it short.
26:56And secondly, do not skimp on the chilled white wine.
27:01If nothing else, keep pouring.
27:06Okay, good to know.
27:08Shazio, who are we looking forward to seeing more of?
27:10Do we feel like anybody hasn't kind of, you know, to use your term, Shazio, put their head above the
27:15parapet that we want to see?
27:16Okay, what are you made of?
27:18Priyash.
27:18I'd love to see more of him.
27:21Like at the moment, he doesn't look like he knows where he is or what he's doing.
27:25He's not really in the moment.
27:27And I'd really love to see him in the moment, like grab the bull by the horns and say, listen,
27:32everybody, we're going to do this.
27:34This is my idea.
27:35Let's go with this.
27:36I'd love to see that from him.
27:38Well, watch this space.
27:39Thank you so much, gang, for joining me.
27:42Come back next time for more unfinished business on BBC Two, iPlayer or BBC Sounds straight after your fix of
27:50The Apprentice.
27:50We'll be chatting about our candidates taking on Egypt, where the hospitality's hot, the pressure is, well, pressurised and not
27:57everyone will make it back out of the sands intact.
28:00I'm Angela Scanlon.
28:02Goodbye.
28:06With the magical and the mundane unfolding on a suburban cul-de-sac, Small Profits with its host of Comedy
28:12Stars is Mackenzie Crook's new project and it's a big hit.
28:15You'll find it on BBC iPlayer.
28:30that.
28:30We haven't seen yet, so I think it's a good one part of the new a clock today, too.
28:32It should be known for the new ones.
28:32Let's be sure that we are waiting, and we can see our other talk as well.
28:32Greg experiments you are had to earn?
28:33Here's the invitation in in Chile, so we'll get one more time list.
28:33That's an invitation, so this is not an invitation to go- of theidanus.
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