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Seth and Sean hear the top Combine sound from Titans HC Robert Saleh, Pats HC Mike Vrabel, Browns HC Todd Monken, Seahawks GM John Schneider, Chargers OC Mike McDaniel and Colts GM Chris Ballard.
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00:00let's get to the audio from the combine here let's get to this and you this is stuff that
00:04you pulled from yesterday oh yeah yeah uh so this is so the audio is from it's not just audio
00:09from
00:10yesterday it's over from like however long they've been yeah yeah uh you know this is all stuff that's
00:14happened over the last couple days and some of its podium and some of its sit-down interviews
00:18and yeah all kinds of stuff but this was on the pat mcafee show uh this is just simply
00:23robert sala talking about the influences eight kids have on his life how many kids again eight
00:29eight eight lessons geez still going home she gets me when i'm sleeping
00:34not a bad deal oh so he's we got some personality in the afc south so he's so his inhibitions
00:44are down
00:44a little bit like is that what he's saying like is no he's thinking i don't want to get graphic
00:50here
00:50i know when he's a the joke is that she just not as in when he's sleeping she oh she
00:56just tops the
00:57board yeah yeah yeah i got you i got you you know how sometimes when you wake up you're a
01:01little
01:01groggy and your judgment oh yeah yeah that's what i'm talking about yeah yeah i know how it works
01:05seth all right sometimes i know what he yeah yeah yeah i just mean like yes you know you wake
01:10up and
01:10you're like oh yeah all right let's go you know all right yeah at some point i don't know if
01:15you're
01:17is he gonna stop you think they might have gone on longer on it i just uh is he gonna
01:21stop at eight
01:22kids how many kids does rivers have 10 is he done uh who knows man i he's he's got some
01:28young
01:29like some young ones i don't know yeah i mean a like a legitimate follow-up question is have you
01:34gotten fixed are you gonna get a vasectomy it's always interesting me just with with coaches you
01:41know that people talk all the time about how much time they miss with their family and everything
01:45i almost feel like the it's the more kids you have the more you're helping out by just keeping
01:53the kids entertained and everything and they'll have the dad might not be around as much as you'd
01:59like yeah but at least you're around a whole bunch of family all the time dude if i had eight
02:03kids i
02:04would be spending 20 hours a day at the office well that's where this solid is the hardest worker i've
02:12ever seen that is one thing that makes it such a rare situation with demiko it's that not only
02:17is it rare for a uh player to go back and be the head coach of the team he played
02:23for but also that
02:25his wife is from houston yeah so when he comes here it's not a lot of times his coaches their
02:31families
02:31are nomads you know and you're moving around and okay maybe some of the other coaches wives will
02:35make friends with your wife or everything but that that might only last two or three years
02:39where as a head coach that has spent a lot of time at the office it's nice when you actually
02:43have
02:43your the the grandparents and everybody oh yeah that's a that's a thing that a lot of head coaches
02:48don't have demiko's wife and family have plenty of other people that can entertain them other than
02:53demiko ryan's yeah it is you're right that is that's a nice dynamic um all right so there's multiple
02:59variables here i'm excited about this do you remember in the the broncos game i think it was when
03:04vrabel uh was trying to drain clock and he had a couple of defensive linemen come onto the field
03:09real slowly yeah uh because they are because they are allowed that extra time to get onto the field
03:15if the offense makes a sub then they have time to make it so chris sims pointed that out yep
03:20i'm
03:20amazed by your game management okay right and we talk about that a lot i during the afc championship game
03:26and i think one of the most underrated plays of all the playoffs is you with the slow substitution that's
03:33not slow that's that not deemed slow that's it i know it's not that that's in a timely manner
03:39right okay that's okay well they're defensive linemen like how fast you want to run out there
03:44it's no the field snowy they could slip they could injure themselves so they want to make sure that the
03:49footing was accurate that's the first time i've heard him speak full of crap i was the first time
03:54i've ever heard you speak bull crap hey man that's the first time you've ever heard vrabel
03:58yeah where have you been what are you talking about where have you been that's a hilarious
04:03answer by the way vrabel uh yeah no and i think so when vrabel is talking about that i think
04:08about
04:08the texans game management issues and and and some of that comes back to man vrabel has been a head
04:15coach for a long time now and for a few years longer than than damika ryan's that's the i don't
04:22know
04:23if i don't know if vrabel would have had the presence of mind to be doing that uh early in
04:26his career
04:27um and it doesn't sound like the most ingenious thing ever but vrabel's done a lot of really
04:31impressive oh vrabel's been doing it remember the the there was the the game might have even been
04:37against belichick i think where he was just letting the clock he was taking penalties
04:41intentionally because the clock kept starting yeah after the penalties you know to drain clock
04:46that's one of the little areas that hopefully this year i mean remember damiko came in in that
04:52first year we were actually really impressed with how good the game management was in a lot of ways
04:56it wasn't an issue these last couple years that things it felt it's felt like things have frayed
05:01a little bit and there's just way more curious things happening especially end of half the uh
05:05this one have you listened to this next one yet i haven't listened to any of these okay so vrabel
05:09was asked about spending in free agency and he went full carlos correa i want to know if i shop
05:16at
05:16nevin marcus or nordstrom or something i've gotten to the point now in my life where if i want something
05:21i can
05:21usually buy it yeah if i want to shop at nevin marcus or nordstrom the dior store yeah he made
05:28it
05:28play again you're still talking sorry about that you know i mean if i shop at nevin marcus or nordstrom
05:33or something i've gotten to the point now in my life where if i want something i can usually buy
05:37it
05:37yeah i go to the mall and i go to the dior store and i want something i get it
05:42yeah
05:44and that's what carlos was talking about free agency he was and likewise vrabel was talking about
05:52free agency yeah and uh i just i i never would i gotta think that somehow that either consciously
05:59or subconsciously that was inspired by carlos correa that was uh that was full carlos right
06:05there man he went with neiman marcus and what nordstrom's was the other one those are nice stores
06:11too carlos and the dior store when i was in chicago like a month ago i'm walking around
06:15downtown chicago and i walked past the dior store and i just chuckled it's carlos's store right is
06:22that dior is more high-end than neiman marcus i think it is yeah well neiman marcus is more just
06:27like a high-end department store correct yeah whereas dior is specifically dior stuff right right
06:32right um just tell how yeah neither of us see you and i were you and i were praising target
06:37the other
06:38day you and i were like the t-shirts at target are really cool uh one more from vrabel this
06:45is
06:45vrabel on his good friend arthur smith coaching at ohio state where vrabel of course uh is an alum and
06:51also coached for a spell well i thought arthur's a friend so i talked to him you know often i
06:57got a
06:57lot of respect for him as a coach but not only that as a person and a friend um let's
07:02see everyone
07:03so for all the ohio state fans i guess we have somebody to to complain to if they don't score
07:0850 points a game like every other buckeye fan does so oh shots fired shots at buckeye fans yeah no
07:16kidding gotta listen in on columbus radio today and see if they're taking that in good spirits or if
07:20they're if they're feeling put out you know what if it's not a topic i might need to call in
07:25and act
07:26like an ohio state band just did you all hear what vrabel said yeah i should do that today yeah
07:30what does he think he is who does he think he is columbus never won a national championship with
07:36us as a player come in gloms on to urban meyer tries to take credit for those yeah and then
07:42says
07:42we're being too picky because we want 50 points a game yeah yeah wait did they win vrabel didn't win
07:48a championship i don't remember i don't even remember when he was there that would have been 97
07:52yeah he was there that was like john cooper he was like 96 97 he definitely didn't win one because
07:57john cooper took all sorts of heat for not winning national championships yeah uh okay this has been
08:03one of the most unexpected surprises i've listened to todd monken before in interviews and been
08:08impressed by him todd monken new coach of the browns yeah and i always thought i've seen interviews
08:13where i was really impressed with his philosophy and his thought processes and everything but he showed
08:19a lot of personality and uh this is this is todd monken on a gift that he got from one
08:25shador
08:25sanders in fact for my birthday i got this package i thought it was for my wife it's like this
08:31package
08:31and opens it up it's like this porcelain like horse head and it's from shador he sent me a gift
08:37on my birthday and i i asked him i said what was the the meaning he said well i just
08:42really liked it
08:43said i got myself one i said well great
08:48okay what is our takeaway on that i mean my immediate thought was man i feel like people
08:53from our generation here you got a horse head as a gift and it's a warning from the message feels
09:00like a message yeah did he wake up with it in his bed right with ketchup with ketchup poured on
09:05it to
09:05stimulate the blood yeah um i the other part of it again and i was impressed by shador if if
09:12shador
09:13is one of these people that's just a prodigious gift giver and is just always giving people birthday
09:18gifts if it if he does if he doesn't give gifts out a bunch and he's just kissing up to
09:22his coach
09:22then i'm let down by him yeah but i feel like this might be one of those things about shador
09:27that
09:27people don't want to believe or or wouldn't know is that oh yeah he's actually like very thoughtful
09:32and just writes handwritten letters to people right right right right
09:35like the the general reports on shador is that he's a very positive energy person oh yeah yeah
09:41you don't hear you don't hear teammates complaining about anything like that at all at all and so i
09:46that's what i want to know that's a question for shador if if anybody's listening who happens to be
09:52going to a press conference where shador sanders is going to be ask him are you one of those people
09:57that has people's birthdays as part of their contact in your iphone you know i i the only people
10:05i have birthdays for in my iphone are people who actually put their own birthday into their
10:10contact you know that gets because i don't put it in there myself and they shoot me their contact info
10:15if the birthday's in there it shows up but i want to send i might have to send you a
10:19porcelain horse head
10:20for uh for uh for for your birthday i can get a ceramic one at home depot for
10:2838 okay you might have to oh that's wood i i believe oh i can get one on timu for
10:345 30
10:35this is i feel like that's the one that i'm getting ben i'm getting the timu
10:42porcelain i i think that you could give a porcelain timu a tweet a timu porcelain horse head to
10:50somebody and people would think like like who sends a cheap porcelain horse head to anybody
10:55you're just going to assume this must be what is it is this crystal actually i don't know i think
11:00at
11:00the very least we need one for the studio here we need a porcelain horse head for the sports radio
11:05we go ahead with our plastic trophy that we got from our listener yeah yeah put it right next to
11:09it
11:10for the best radio show of 2026 yeah pain and pendergast all right what else you got here
11:14uh okay okay okay let's set this up you guys all remember when we were wondering if kenneth walker
11:21would get franchise tagged or not the and at the seahawks super bowl parade john schneider the gm said
11:29this ken walker being the mvp let's go he tried negotiating with me five minutes ago it was really weird
11:38mvp mvp mvp mvp mvp mvp anyway and uh kenneth walker kind of gave a weird look at the time
11:44yeah
11:45he felt kenneth walker looked very uncomfortable with that and uh since then it's emerged that kenneth
11:49walker will likely be a free agent here's john schneider explaining that comment at the parade
11:55i kind of lost it at the uh i got nervous at the uh talking in front of all those
11:59people the
12:00day and ken's like what are you talking about we weren't a guy but i totally made that up like
12:03i
12:03just lost it he just made it up he just john schneider has definitely screamed the words we're
12:11going shrieking at some point right yes yes go back and watch his podium appearance he is he is like
12:19your next door neighbor like your cool next door neighbor yeah it's just like the kind of guy that's
12:24like yeah go swim in the pool whenever you want yeah just uh i got a bunch of beer in
12:28the cooler
12:28right sure man he's one of those guys like at the super bowl when he made it down to the
12:34sideline at
12:34the end of the game he was in a sport coat he's one of those guys like wow he's got
12:39a sport coat in
12:40his closet i didn't even know he's one of those guys right he's a t-shirt and he flip flops
12:46with his
12:46jeans and everything else just very laid back um this is uh i put this one in here just because
12:53i think
12:53it'll annoy you this is on the pat mcafee show mike mcdaniel talking about his enthusiasm level
13:00i i've i'm invigorated i'm juiced up uh you know i i'm firmly aware that nobody nobody has a better
13:10than us uh and i'm living that way every day yeah so obvious reference to jim and john harbaugh's
13:17who's got it better than us nobody nobody yeah it is an interesting blending of personality
13:22oh dude totally interesting and i and i think um i am less annoyed by mike mcdaniel as an
13:29offensive coordinator because i think he that's a job that he is probably going to be good at and
13:34deserves whereas i think i thought from jump that it was going to be dicey as a head coach because
13:40he
13:41doesn't come across as very presidential i thought that from the beginning and when things got really
13:45bad with the dolphins i thought it it exacerbated it it got worse you know his whatever leadership
13:51chops he has got worse as the dolphins got worse so i feel vindicated with that but i don't mind
13:56mike mcdaniel as an oc that's fine well it's also really all your little plays and do your from jim
14:01harbaugh's perspective because greg roman had been the only offensive coordinator he'd had in the nfl
14:06that's right so much different different different personalities but that doesn't matter all that
14:11much but different philosophies too yep so that that part i guess i maybe i think it's would be
14:16annoying to you because it means something having to do with justin herbert uh oh yeah i hadn't even
14:21thought about that but that yeah yeah the three of those guys harbaugh herbert and mcdaniel together
14:26and the texans play them this year in la in la again they've made the they've been out there a
14:32bunch
14:32yeah they've been to that stadium a bunch in the last couple years yeah um all right this is relevant
14:37to the texans just in that i believe bill cower was talking to vrabel about being a first-time
14:43coordinator that's what the and i didn't see what the actual question was but this is in the context
14:48of this answer and i don't know if i this came up on my timeline yesterday i don't know if
14:53cower is
14:54doing this interview remotely this might have been from the playoffs um but whatever i saw it yesterday
14:59so here is vrabel on being a first-time coordinator and recall that his first time as a coordinator was
15:06with the houston texans i think the first year you think oh man we're gonna have some great scheme and
15:12it's all about scheme it's it's it's not about scheme it's about you know figuring out and making
15:17decisions that are best for the team trying to to gain a personal touch it's about the players you
15:23know holding each other accountable those are things that win not not plays and you know it's all
15:27about the players so they hardly won at all the year he was a court yeah and they had a
15:32bunch of
15:33injuries but were you doing the post game in 2017 yeah yeah okay do you remember when seth on a
15:37mobile
15:38called in uh i did i called i remember i was dry i remember this so well okay because it
15:44was after
15:44mike vrabel's first game as a defensive coordinator and i would have been the jacksonville season opener
15:49yes yeah and i remember driving home and i'm like i'm gonna call the the post game show yep so
15:56is seth on a mobile yep was it you and cecil or it would have been no it would have
16:00been me and ted
16:01you and ted yeah and and my big point was this is i was surprised because this was a classic
16:09first-time coordinator game i he was trying to do all these different looks different fronts
16:16different personnel packages guys running in and out and i've i've been a part of those efforts
16:22before i've seen them before and i was shocked that vrabel succumbs to it yeah because he'd seen
16:29other guys try and mess up and do all of that but he does there's something about the allure of
16:33being
16:33a whiteboard genius and this is one of those yeah i rail against it all the time because it's true
16:38and i was excited to hear vrabel say it yeah because vrabel vrabel knows it yep and vrabel succumbed to
16:45it
16:45there's just this allure where you just you want to be the architect of everything and you just
16:51you want to put every idea that you've ever had right out there on film we saw it with bobby
16:55slowick
16:56in the first game versus the ravens for cj stroud they're doing all this pre-snap motion and everything
17:01meanwhile you got a rookie quarterback you got all these guys of their first year in the system
17:06and uh and it's just i don't know what's to be done about it other than i think it's one
17:10of those
17:10things you just got to go through yeah some guys just they they refuse to believe that oh no it's
17:15all it's all about simplicity and execution and then we build on that for you for you for at the
17:21time for it have to have moved you enough to actually pick up the phone and call the postgame
17:26show yeah and then for you nine years later to hear vrabel say that had to be pretty wild yesterday
17:31i felt redemption i don't blame you i don't blame you for putting this audio into this segment right
17:36here i would have to ask might be damned this is not my ego getting involved or anything maybe a
17:41little bit but i'm i'm genuinely curious just because a lot of coaches do listen to the postgame
17:46show and i wonder if vrabel was listening to the postgame show there and i want i and i would
17:51say if
17:51he did i'm guessing that he would have said yep yep yeah yep it's true like i i feel like
17:58i i did like
17:59because it's something that like obviously he knows it now and vrabel's not as much as he you know
18:05he's kind of a cocky swagger dude yep um i think he's he's pretty humble about beating himself up
18:10too yeah they uh and they got smoked that day 29 to 7 if i recall was the final score
18:15yeah they
18:16replaced their quarterback tom savage at halftime with deshaun watson you recall do you uh do we have
18:22time to hear chris ballard it's a long segment we got time to do whatever the hell we want for
18:26the
18:27next 13 minutes so the report that we saw this week from somebody i want to say it was jordan
18:33schultz okay was that anthony richardson might be requesting a trade out of indianapolis we definitely
18:39saw those reports i don't remember those reports um chris ballard the gm of the colts was asked about
18:44uh recall that anthony richardson had that broken orbital bone and people were agitated because they
18:50felt like he they saw him working out and they thought he should have been playing at the end of
18:53the
18:53season instead of philip rivers it turned out finally anthony richardson got up and said uh i
18:58can't see so good right now right that like i can basically see directly in front of me and nowhere
19:03else so that part of it was put to rest at least but we haven't really had an update on
19:07his health
19:08situation this is uh this is chris ballard on anthony richardson's status right now yeah well he's he's
19:13getting better he just had a i know he met with another specialist he's he's getting better he's been
19:18cleared to play football i'm proud of i'm proud of anthony man i mean
19:25here's a guy that has had to deal with some injury a lot of injury stuff that you know happens
19:33unfortunate accident you know with his eye um he he doesn't win the job daniel wins the job
19:40i think the one thing that i don't know if everybody appreciates about anything i do and i know some
19:44of
19:45his teammates do is like he's a really good teammate positive um wants to do the right thing
19:51so it's trending in the right direction still got a ways to go but you know he's clear to play
19:56um and he's and dia's getting better so we just work from there do you see do you see a
20:02future for
20:02him in indianapolis i see a future yeah um i'm not gonna kind of like with any player you never
20:09know
20:09what's gonna happen um and things change but yeah i mean we like anthony yeah um i think the the
20:17biggest thing about anthony richardson and is is he comes back from it wasn't even technically a
20:21football injury an exercise band broke and snapped into the socket hit him in the eye yeah and yet
20:28that one that one if that were a standalone incident you'd say okay this guy just he had really
20:33really bad luck he's just been so freakishly consistently injured over and over again
20:40where he had to leave a preseason game because he dislocated his finger yep it's just there's
20:43always something with him and his performance is degraded over time uh to the point where i mean his
20:51his completion percentage has actually gone down as he's progressed through he actually completed
20:5659 of his passes in uh in his rookie season which is incredible now because he ended up having
21:0347.7 in his second season nobody tracks this closer than you seth c pain you love that really
21:10fair um he was at 50 this last year but he only had two attempts in on the season one
21:15so i i think if
21:16there was ever a situation where hey change of scenery makes sense that you maybe just gotta just cut
21:23ties with what would the trade market be for anthony richardson right now i don't know like i don't
21:29what would a team trade for him he's been injured every year since high school i can't imagine
21:33a team trading more than a day three pick for him right no it'd have to be some kind of
21:37a swap of
21:38some like anthony richard and it might be a player for player thing could be with like a backup long
21:42snapper for anthony richards i'm i'm exaggerating yeah yeah but i just the even if he had been if he
21:49had had more promising performances and not just some highlight reel throws here and there yeah
21:55you'd still be really really concerned about the the fact that he's just he's made of glass
22:00he's a porcelain horse head he is a port he is a shador sanders purchased porcelain team who horse
22:05head um i the the best thing for anthony richardson might be just to stay in indianapolis
22:11and see how this daniel jones injury situation plays out yeah you know daniel jones ruptured his
22:19achilles tendon you know so i'm guessing he's not going to be back for stuff in the spring like anthony
22:24richardson might be able to get you know not a leg up in the competition because if they bring daniel
22:28jones
22:29back he's going to get signed to a starter's wage you know daniel jones isn't going to be the backup
22:34for 35 or 40 million my my guess is if they bring him back it's on a two or three
22:39year deal for like
22:3930 to 40 million a year like a sam darnold kind of deal so anthony richardson probably doesn't
22:44display somebody who's getting paid like that but if daniel jones's health isn't good maybe anthony
22:48richardson is able to get in there and impress and that's a dicey situation right there you got to
22:53have a you got to have a third quarterback that you trust on the roster there dicey for the colts
22:57yeah yeah because you just don't you you just you cannot go into any season riley leonard
23:04what's that riley leonard right no that might be it they may be they look pretty damn good versus
23:09the texans yeah whatever um let's do uh this is let's do uh todd monken again on shader sanders
23:17playmaking ability okay i think what you see is elite playmaking ability that's in him you've seen it
23:24we've seen it you saw it in college you saw it on tape last year sure there's there's a ways
23:29to go
23:30but what rookie isn't i mean what first year player doesn't have a long way to go um so i'm
23:36excited to
23:36get started with him and all of our quarterbacks and all of our players um so i listened to this
23:42and i'm trying to i i spent too much time trying to get into the heads of browns fans and
23:46thinking
23:47okay how are browns fans probably taking all of this right now and it will this placate them the way
23:52that todd monken's been talking about shooter sanders and then i remembered if i were a browns
23:56fan nothing would placate me ever no um it feels like todd monken really is at least trying to make
24:03it look like he genuinely is looking at this as an open competition at quarterback now i know people
24:09that love shader are going to feel like well he's not if he's not committing to shader then he hates
24:13him people that hate shader are going to say well the fact that he's even talking about having him on
24:18the team make me angry i i really do respect todd monken as a as a coach and i and
24:25i like his
24:26philosophy and everything i think he's probably really consciously trying to go into this with
24:31an open mind and figure it out between now and september i think deshaun watson is going to be
24:36their starting quarterback this year i think there's a yeah i think deshaun watson because people
24:41and i know people are going to say sean he was terrible when he was the starting quarterback
24:46for the browns before he ruptured his achilles tendon not once but twice um i i just think
24:53shader shader's not good either well the same the same excuses that you would make for shader
24:59you can make for deshaun yeah in terms of okay what did he have around him what were the settings
25:05and everything now because deshaun's a veteran quarterback should he have managed it and been
25:08better at it sure um but yeah it's just been such a quagmire that that makes the most logical sense
25:15but we're in the heads of browns fans no no no i no i get it and i'm and trust
25:18me you seth you know
25:19i listen to cleveland radio i know how they feel about deshaun they are dreading they are so much
25:23more excited up there about shader sanders than they are the notion of deshaun watson being their
25:28starting quarterback all i'm saying is that team has a good enough defense yeah to play the whole
25:34thing the texans were trying to do in the playoffs which is just don't screw it up quarterback and we
25:40can
25:40make it deeper they have that good a defense up there and and i think i think even the version
25:45of deshaun that they were getting in cleveland in those 19 games that he started was probably
25:50better statistically and empirically than shader sanders was in his seven starts yeah and i think
25:56there's probably going to be a little bit of deshaun that's out to prove things to people maybe
25:59has a new lease on life a new head coach different voice in his ear that kind of thing i
26:03just think
26:03he's gonna i'm not saying he's gonna be good i'm just saying he's gonna i think deshaun watson's
26:07gonna win that quarterback competition and they're already paying him jillions of dollars
26:11they're gonna try to get something out of it this is how crazy the discourse around shader is
26:16is that i have no idea whether this person is trying to make an actual point or if it's or
26:21if
26:21it's sarcastic because it's perfect sarcasm but in this thread and i looked at it i think this guy
26:28is seriously making this case for shader so shader is playing style one of the things that he's got to
26:33iron out is man he will try to extend a play forever run backwards to extend yeah like right
26:39like it's a lot a lot are in a lot of rookie quarterbacks do that you know case keenum used
26:42to do that oh yeah um and he he ironed it out cj stroud cj stroud would fall into it
26:48at times yeah
26:49um so uh so this guy is making the point that shader wants to be a pocket quarterback and he's
26:56working on it and he knows it because of this i watched him play in person i was in the
27:01i was
27:02impressed with his insistence to throw from the pocket get flushed out slide back into the pocket
27:08and throw sometimes he would return to the pocket two or three times before throwing and i'm like
27:15like no talking about returned no because but that's what it looks like there's somebody who
27:20would say like look at that he's trying to like he's trying to get back to this pocket that had
27:24already broken down or something that is what it looks like sometimes sometimes i'm gonna run out
27:28where's the pocket over there i'm gonna run over to the pocket sorry fella he's just running around
27:32i think he was making a serious point he was returning to the pocket sean oh my god oh my
27:39god
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