00:00a very strong message not just to President Trump to the world but to your people as well
00:05that you want critical minerals to be produced and to finally be manufactured into a final product
00:12within Brazil. Having said that let's then talk about President Trump and your relationship with
00:18him. From I have no relationship with Trump to a meeting to now you're headed to the United States
00:26of America probably next month. How do you define your relationship with Trump? How do you define
00:31President Trump? Well I would like to say something that is very serious. I got along very well with
00:46President Bush. I got along very well with President Obama. I got along very well with President Biden
00:54and now I want to get along also very well with President Trump. The relationship between Brazil
01:01and the U.S. has more than 200 years of existence, diplomatic relations, and I want to continue to be
01:09a strong
01:10relationship. That's what I want with the freedom that the U.S. wants for them and the freedom that I
01:17wish for Brazil. Brazil has a trade with the U.S. of 80 billion dollars, 40 billion that Brazil exports
01:29and 40 billion that we import from the U.S. And there's a surplus in the trade for the U
01:35.S. The U.S.
01:36U.S. represents only 12 percent of the Brazilian trade balance. Of these 12 percent, 22 percent received
01:45the tariffs from Trump. It's not the end of the world. And we did not apply the reciprocity law because
01:56we believe in the capacity to negotiate from the Brazilian side. I have my chancellor with me, I have my
02:03finance minister, and I have the vice president of the republic that are negotiating with the U.S.
02:08Trump administration. And I propose to him a meeting person to person in March. Let's see what
02:15will be the date so that we can put things on the table, the issues on the table, and reach
02:22the
02:22agreement that we have to make. At any level, there's nothing forbidding issue to discuss with
02:29President Trump on trade matters. What I cannot discuss – put in discussion is my sovereignty and
02:34the democracy in Brazil. This is something that belongs to me and my people. But from the trade
02:40viewpoint, I'm willing to negotiate with the U.S. as I'm going to negotiate tomorrow with Prime Minister
02:48Modi. I came here to discuss with Prime Minister Modi what is good for Brazil and for India in our
02:55nation. What can Brazil can buy from India and sell to India? What can our business sector can build
03:02partnerships? Because this is what's important for the people. What will the people gain with all this,
03:11with these things? It's not just coming from the U.S. It cannot only the U.S. win to be
03:18the winner
03:18only alone. What we want. And that's why we advocate multilateralism.
03:26MS. Mr. President, one sense is certainly that there is some kind of weaponization of tariffs
03:32by the U.S. President. You said that you had great equations with the former President Bush.
03:40Is it difficult to negotiate with Donald Trump?
03:45MS. I haven't started a negotiation with him yet. We had two phone calls, conversations,
03:56and we have a person-to-person conversation in Malaysia. Now, I want to go to the U.S. because
04:05since he started in Venezuela saying that he wanted to fight organized crime, drug trafficking very well.
04:17I also want to fight it. And I said to him a relationship of Brazilians that were smuggling
04:28gasoline to Brazil. And this citizen, this criminal, lives in Miami.
04:33And I even took a photograph of the house of this criminal that lives in Miami. If we're going to
04:39fight drug trafficking, send it back to Brazil, these criminals, Brazilian criminals that are
04:45living in the states, back to Brazil, so that they could be put on trial in Brazil.
04:50We have a federal police that is very specialized. We have an internal tax revenue service that is very
04:59well-prepared. And we want to sit down with the DOJ, with the revenue authority – tax revenue
05:05authorities in the U.S. and let's fight drug trafficking. Yes, let's do it together.
05:11And so this proposal, I want to take it to – in written – in writing form to President Trump,
05:19because I'm afraid that the wind can blow the words. So I'm going to take it in writing.
05:25Everything that I'm going to talk with President Trump, I'll take it in writing. I'm optimistic
05:30with this conversation with President Trump.
05:32President, sir, the fact that when we interviewed President Putin, he said that President Trump
05:37is very different when he's in his private space and talking to a leader, and very different when he
05:43is when he is talking to the world. What's your experience?
05:53I had already the opportunity to watch. Trump is an expert in marketing. He is an expert
06:07of the digital and social media. It's very clear that he does this like a TV show. And in the
06:19personal
06:20meeting, he's much more calm and shows great tranquility. So I want to benefit from this personal
06:31moment, this person-to-person, with the tranquility that two heads of state should have when they're
06:36together. I'm 80 years old, and he's going to be 80 now, next June. So two men of 80 years
06:45of age
06:46do not need to fight. We don't have to put up a showcase. We have to deal seriously that the
06:54age
06:55that we have imposes on us and to reach an agreement that could be a show as a role model
07:01to the world.
07:03We are the two largest democracies of that part of the world. And so we have to give an example
07:11at all levels. The only thing that I know is that I don't want war. My theory
07:20is the theory of Mahatma Gandhi that managed to win and achieve independence of this giant called India
07:33through the example, showing an example, motivating the people
07:40that India would have to be free. This is the example. The role model of my life is Gandhi.
07:47This is the example of things that have to happen.
07:55Brazil has no vocation to go to war.
08:00Brazil has no power. We have already many domestic issues. When I took office in 2003,
08:09President Bush invited me to participate in the war on Iraq.
08:15I told President Bush that I never met Saddam Hussein. Iraq was located 14,000 kilometers away from Brazil
08:26and that my war was against hunger. We had 54 million Brazilians in hunger in Brazil.
08:34We ended with the hunger in Brazil. I stayed 15 years out of power. When I came back now,
08:41we had again 34 million people in hunger in Brazil. Again, in two and a half years of my third
08:48term now,
08:49we ended with the hunger again in Brazil. This is my war that I want to wage against inequality,
08:58inequality of race, of economic inequality, gender inequality. And now another fight I picked up now,
09:05another fight that I'm going to pick up, that is to fight against murders of women,
09:13female murders and violence against women. I'm going to fight against that. And I've been saying
09:22that the priest has to start that mass talking about that there should be no violence against women. The
09:30pastor in his church has to start the service talking about against violence. The trade union leader
09:36will go to the plant gate, demand more wages. He also has to talk about the violence against women
09:42because we, the men, are the ones that practice violence against women. And the women will not be
09:50made to be beaten by men and not can be treated as an object. Women in the 21st century, they
10:00demand
10:01respect. They want equality. They want to participate in the political life of the country. And they're not
10:08inferior to vis-a-vis to anyone else. So this is my fight against inequality. Any kind of inequality.
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