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00:11Hello and welcome to your Thursday One Show, live on BBC One and I play it with Roman Ken.
00:16And Alex Jones. Now tonight, as Only Fools and Horses celebrates 45 years, we're joined
00:21by Del Boy's girlfriend and the rest of our line-up. Well, they're lovely, jubbly as well.
00:25They are indeed, yes. He's always up for an extreme challenge in a far-flung destination.
00:30But for his later series, Bear Grylls is much closer to home as he chats to us about how
00:34he's helping people resolve their conflicts around a Welsh campfire. There's no better campfire.
00:40Yeah, I bet, yeah. And as we mentioned, Only Fools and Horses celebrates its 45th anniversary.
00:46Raquel herself, actor Tessa Pete-Jones, joins us and tells us all about reuniting with Sir David
00:51Jason to share some very special memories and also how she's embracing her 60s in her new play.
00:56Plus, Vicky Patterson reveals why she's been investigating one of the UK's most prolific
01:01conmen for a latest podcast. It's really shocking, actually, isn't it?
01:06Yeah, it's very insightful, that one. Also, tonight we have a cracking one big thank you
01:10as Alexander Armstrong delivers the perfect surprise to cyclist Mike, whose tireless dedication
01:16has been bringing joy to children and young people for the past 20 years. I know we say it
01:20every time, but it's the best one yet. It is. It's the best one. It really is. Lots
01:25coming up tonight then, so let's welcome our guests. It's Vicky Patterson, Bear Grylls
01:29and Tessa Pete-Jones.
01:33Welcome, everyone. Welcome. Vicky, you've just finished the Strictly tour. Firstly, how
01:41was it? And also, have you got your hands on that glitter ball?
01:44I certainly did. Finally, Roman, yeah, I was thrilled to ribbons. It was an amazing experience
01:49and a lovely way to finish off the whole thing. Very happy me and Kai did it, but I am
01:55knackered
01:55now, Mir. Fantastic. You've got it once. That's perfect. And the lovely thing is, Tessa
01:59here, you were rooting for Vicky. Oh, I thought you were fantastic on it. I really did, yeah.
02:05I think it's so brave and I thought you were lovely. You came over so well. I think you're
02:08lovely as well. Mutual society. Yeah, exactly. I mean, Strictly, Bear, ever fancy it? No.
02:16I look at you with admiration. I've got two left feet and it gets much worse. Always honoured
02:23to be asked whenever I've been asked, but I would be hopeless. Stick to the main job
02:28is my thing to myself. I was like a fridge with arms. I think you'd be great. I'd love
02:33to see you on it next year. I would love to be able to dance well. My wife dances beautifully
02:38and I always feel I slightly let her down when she drags me on the dance floor. I could just
02:44feel myself start to sweat, you know. I think we could convince you. There's a little bit of arm
02:50twisting to be done there. We'll be chatting more to Bear and Tessa very soon, but first
02:54we're starting with Vicky's latest podcast, which looks at the dark side of online dating
02:59and romance fraud. Yeah, the new series of Love Bond is all about one man who has spent
03:04years in and out of prison for conning women out of thousands of pounds. It's also a story
03:09that BBC reporters in the North East have been following.
03:12Ray McDonald has been wrecking women's lives for more than 20 years. He meets them on
03:18dating apps, makes them believe they're in a relationship and takes every penny they have.
03:25I lost everything. I lost my house and me and my kids went and resettled elsewhere, even
03:31though I had no money to reset this up anywhere because Ray McDonald had took my money.
03:35Just stop torturing all these women and totally ruining their lives.
03:42MacDonald was convicted of fraud and jailed. When he was released from prison, he was straight
03:48back on the dating apps, hunting for new victims once again.
03:53Oh, it's absolutely awful, isn't it? And so we saw Ray MacDonald there and obviously he's
03:59used loads of false names. He's lied to so many people and you actually spoke to some of those
04:04people, didn't he? What did they say? So over the years, I think I've made four series of Love
04:10Bond now and I think it's really worth mentioning that out of all of the romance scammers and fraud
04:15stars and things that I've come into contact with, in my opinion, Ray MacDonald is one of the most
04:20prolific. The police speculate that his victims, the number of them, is somewhere in the hundreds.
04:25No. Yes. And he not only emotionally damages these women, but the money he takes from them,
04:33the ramifications on their life afterwards has such a long tail, which is why I am so grateful to the
04:39brave victims who came forward, took part in the podcast and managed to turn, I'd say, their pain into
04:46purpose, hoping to raise awareness of this type of crime and stop men like Ray MacDonald getting away with
04:51this. Yeah. It is, you know, as you say, it's heartbreaking, you know, that these poor victims of
04:57this con, you know, that's being run here. But I guess when you heard the stories, like, you know, really
05:03fleshed out, was it more understandable for someone like yourself? You know, you quite switched on. I mean,
05:07was it understandable to see actually how this is going on? Because a lot of people be watching it being
05:10like,
05:11oh, I'll never get tricked, but it really can happen. Absolutely. And I think there is such a, like,
05:16stigma and a misunderstanding around this type of crime. And you all know we've heard those, like, we've heard
05:22those conversations. We've been part of them. People saying, like, oh, it would never happen to me and
05:26I can't understand this. And how did she not see that red flag and whatever? These men, for the most
05:32part, not to be misogynistic or sexist, there are some women who do this as well. It's 2026. But
05:38predominantly, they are expert manipulators. They are complete love bombers. They know exactly what
05:43they're doing. This con is rehearsed. It's practised. They are professionals. And as somebody who's had
05:50a heartbroken before, as somebody who's desperately wanted to be in love, I can feel real empathy for
05:55these women, these victims. And I think it is easier to fall prey to something like this, especially
06:00when you're vulnerable. And that was the type of people that Ray MacDonald used to target.
06:05Someone who's been in love, lost a partner, someone who's looking to settle down, to finally be
06:10looked after in their life, after spending their whole life looking after their kids and a fella or
06:14whatever. So I feel compassion for these women and these victims. And I would really encourage
06:20and urge other people to foster some too.
06:22And who hasn't rushed into a relationship? Do you know what I mean? And you also speak, and
06:27this is the unbelievable thing, you also speak to his mum. Now, and he's told everybody that his mum's
06:34died. And this is more lies to make even more money, isn't it?
06:38Of course, yeah. I mean, there's nothing he won't say, no lie he won't tell, no con he won't play
06:46to
06:46get what he wants out of his victim. And you're right, he did tell people that his mother had
06:50passed away. There's this, like, real age-old debate, isn't there? Like, are people bad because
06:55of nature versus nurture? In this instance, I'm not an expert, I'm not a psychologist, but I can
06:59honestly say with me full chest that I believe it's nothing to do with nurture. His family are
07:04lovely. They're as devastated as anyone else that he's chosen to go down this path, tell these lies,
07:09ruin these lies, manipulate women. And I think they're heartbroken, understandably.
07:15Yeah, and this sort of fraud, it affects thousands of people everywhere. And as you say,
07:19men and women. But sometimes people are a bit slower coming forward, aren't they, to talk about it?
07:25I think, if you want my honest opinion, that's due to the stigma that surrounds this sort of crime.
07:30Like, we mentioned before, people are, it's very misunderstood. And there's an awful lot of
07:36shame that comes with admitting being, like... Well, it feels embarrassing, doesn't it?
07:39It does, yeah. Like, it's not just getting your heart broken. Like, one of our victims,
07:44I remember when she started to see the red flags and things like that, she reached out to someone
07:47who she knew, had known Ray in a previous life. And she said, like, what's he up to? What kind
07:53of a
07:53guy he is? And his answer was, he robs old women. Wow.
07:56Like, do you know what I mean? Imagine hearing that about the man that you thought you were building
07:59a life with. Imagine feeling like you'd been duped, taken in. It's no surprise that these
08:03poor women, these poor victims, don't feel, like, capable of coming forward. So they hide. And I
08:09think that's what these con men, these Romans fraudsters, that's what they rely on. They rely on
08:13that shame. So I feel like using my platform to talk about this, celebrating these incredibly brave
08:19women who've come forward to tell their story, turning their pain into purpose, and hopefully getting the
08:23word out there about this. So less women, less men fall prey to this is the only way to stop
08:29this
08:29crime from happening. Yeah. And very quickly, just finally, where is Ray now? To the best of my
08:35knowledge, Ray is actually back in prison. Right. And I will sleep a lot better knowing that he can't
08:40hurt any women for a little while. Absolutely. Oh, gosh. Well, Love Bombed, Wife Hunter is available
08:46on BBC Sounds now. And if you have been a victim of fraud and want details of organisations
08:51which can offer advice and support, please go to bbc.co.uk slash action line. Thank you,
08:57Vicky. Yeah, thank you, mate. Thank you. Still to come tonight, Tessa will be telling us why Sir David
09:01Jason told her recently he wasn't a fan of her singing. Imagine. But first, it's time to head to the
09:08dramatic landscape of North Wales for Bear's brand new BBC series, Wild Reckoning. It sees people who've
09:13fallen out with each other work together to tackle a series of challenges. And before we ask him
09:18where the harmony was restored, here's a little taster. My latest challenge is something I've never
09:24done before. Dealing with people's lives, their relationships, and their greatest conflicts.
09:30Is that supporting or is that degrading? With my hand-picked team of experts,
09:34we've set physical and emotional challenges. Can their time in the wild...
09:40You're nearly there. I'm going to die.
09:42..heal old wounds... I don't want to talk about it.
09:46..resolve differences... I do trust you.
09:49..and forge new futures. We're immensely proud of the person you are.
09:55APPLAUSE
09:55Oh, Bear, this is so brilliant and compelling. And of course, as we saw, you use survival skills
10:01to bring people hopefully closer together. But why do you think the great outdoors is a brilliant tool
10:08for getting people to talk and open up?
10:10Hmm. I don't know. I think the wild never judges, you know, and you sit around a campfire with someone
10:17or you have to cross a river or climb a mountain together. You've got to trust each other.
10:22You've got to be honest. You've got to communicate well. You've got to kind of take a step and take
10:26a few risks together.
10:28Yeah.
10:28Yeah.
10:29And I don't know. I think the wild builds bonds between you that are hard to do just in everyday
10:34life.
10:35It accelerates everything.
10:35Yeah.
10:36And, I don't know, I look at this show, I think so many of, so much of our life,
10:40the quality of our life is really, for all of us, reflected in the quality of our relationships.
10:45And so many of our closest relationships are actually the most challenging ones.
10:50So we took people who have been facing some really tricky moments in their lives.
10:55Yeah.
10:56Two days in the wild.
10:58They had to do all of that. They had to cross rivers, climb mountains, trust each other,
11:02look each other in the whites of each other's eyes, and hopefully come out of it kind of closer.
11:09I mean, it didn't always work.
11:11Yeah.
11:11And, you know, that is always a risk with these things, but the stories were beautiful.
11:16I was going to say, in episode one, we meet a father and son team.
11:20We meet Mario and Xavier. What issues were they facing?
11:23Well, this was a classic one where the dad, the dad had had a really hard upbringing,
11:27ended up with homelessness and addiction, saw his son suddenly becoming a teenager,
11:32drifting a little bit that way.
11:34And I think he just was overprotective.
11:38And as you know, as parents, sometimes you've got to let people fly.
11:41You've got to trust each other.
11:42Yeah, it's hard.
11:42So, but it's all based on this thing of old phrase called solvature ambulando,
11:48which basically means solved by walking together.
11:50And I think if you've got real issues in relationships, if you think how people handle divorce,
11:56you sit opposite each other at a table, lawyer up, you're in conflict straight away.
12:01You're looking at each other.
12:02And this is about once you start walking together, subconsciously, you're already in rhythm.
12:07You're wanting to find a solution.
12:10And it was amazing seeing it.
12:12You know, these people have tried everything, but actually, you know,
12:15the world strips it down to kind of bare essentials.
12:17And you see people for what they are, the good and the bad.
12:21But yeah, I think out of all the shows I've done, I'm really proud of it,
12:24because it builds relationships, restores relationships.
12:28Yeah, you're so right about the walk-in.
12:29It's like us, you know, we don't look eye to eye.
12:31No.
12:31So we get on really well.
12:33Yeah, exactly.
12:34That's precisely it.
12:34But it's filmed on the coastline, that borders of Rory,
12:38which was obviously known as Snowdonia National Park, which is absolutely beautiful.
12:43But I think people, would you agree, would be surprised at how rugged
12:47the terrain and how tough the terrain can be there?
12:50Well, you know, I wanted to film it near.
12:52We spent a lot of time in Wales.
12:53It's been a huge part of my family's life and my life from military days onwards.
12:58And as you know, Wales can be wild.
13:00Yeah.
13:01And when that weather turns, it can be as extreme as anywhere.
13:05I mean, we do a lot of shows for America.
13:08And whenever we film in Wales, we call it the Land of the Dragons.
13:11And they always think it's unbelievable.
13:13And then they see it and they go, where is this place?
13:15And I go, it's in the UK.
13:18No, we had some really tough weather.
13:21And as you know, it's all fine to get along when the sun's shining.
13:26You know, when you're cold, wet, tired, hungry, scared,
13:30then life gets interesting.
13:31Yeah.
13:32It's a lot of challenging, doesn't it?
13:33Yeah, it can sound great on paper.
13:35I mean, Tessa, I'm going to ask you because, I mean,
13:36your Grantchester co-star, Robson Green,
13:39he kind of went full Bear Grylls with you on a weekend.
13:42Well, he tried.
13:43It didn't work.
13:43He tried for his show, Weekend Escapes.
13:45What happened?
13:45Yes.
13:46He suggested rock face climbing and I said, no.
13:50And then he said, what about diving in the water?
13:52And I said, no.
13:53So we ended up doing goat yoga.
13:56Tough on that.
13:57That was really hard, actually.
13:58So what is goat yoga?
13:59Well, you are in a field with a load of goats and you do yoga.
14:02Yeah.
14:03And the goats actually weren't remotely interested.
14:05So when we were doing our downward dog or whatever it is, upside down,
14:09the people...
14:09Downward goat.
14:10Downward goat, very good.
14:12The people that owned the goats threw pellets on Robson and myself.
14:17Didn't hit Robson, but they did hit me when I was upside down.
14:20And suddenly I felt this bang.
14:21And this goat had put both his hooves on my back really hard.
14:26So I did feel it was a little bit extreme.
14:28Really hard on my back.
14:29And then stayed there while we did the rest of the yoga.
14:32Oh.
14:32Eating off my back.
14:33Eating the pellets on me.
14:34Yeah.
14:34They can be naughty.
14:35So I think that was...
14:36They can be.
14:37And that was...
14:37I thought that was quite challenging, actually.
14:39Very good.
14:39Well, that was your own world reckoning.
14:41But Bear Grylls' world reckoning starts next Monday at 2 o'clock on BBC One.
14:46And you can watch all the episodes on iPlayer from Sunday.
14:50Time now, though, for this week's one big thank you.
14:53Very soon, you're going to see the moment Alexander Armstrong springs.
14:56A brilliant surprise on fellow cycling enthusiast and charity founder Mike.
15:00But first, let's hear from those who know exactly why Mike's so special.
15:09Mike deserves this one big thank you because of the pure joy he's brought to so many children and young
15:14people with a cancer diagnosis.
15:16In 2005, Mike Grisenthwaite set up Cyclists Fighting Cancer, a charity that funds bikes for children and young people living
15:25with cancer.
15:27Mike started the charity about 20 years ago after his battle with cancer.
15:31Cycling had helped him maintain his fitness and boosted his well-being throughout his treatment.
15:35Once he was in remission, he decided it was time to use cycling to help other people with cancer.
15:41He started it at home and literally building bikes on his kitchen table and delivering them personally to kids around
15:48the country.
15:4920 years later, the charity now has four shops. Members of the public donate bikes which are then refurbished and
15:56sold.
15:56All the profits go to providing specialised bikes and trikes to young people who need them.
16:02Having that bike just gave him so much more confidence and even just, it gave us that bit of normality.
16:10When we go back home, we'll get another bike.
16:12Yeah, so I think it's the only bike now as soon as we go back home.
16:16It helps with all sorts, not just like my physical abilities and then just helps me with the mental health
16:22side of things.
16:24In total, the charity has given out over 10,000 bikes.
16:28Just going out and enjoying as a family is obviously priceless.
16:36See, if anybody deserves a surprise, it's Mike, isn't it?
16:40Yeah, told you this was a good one.
16:41Well, now it is time to see the moment Mike is surprised by someone you may call a pointless cyclist.
16:52For this week's One Big Thank You, we've taken over one of Mike's own bike stores.
16:57And we've enlisted another keen cyclist, actor and TV presenter, Alexander Armstrong.
17:04Mike is an incredible guy. He's using something I'm also passionate about, cycling, to help those who need it most.
17:12And so I feel immensely privileged to have been asked to give him a big surprise.
17:17Now, this is one of the charity's four shops.
17:20Mike thinks he's coming here for an interview with a local crew.
17:23What he doesn't know is we've got a much bigger surprise in store for him.
17:27We've organised the phony PR interview here in the shop.
17:31But halfway through, Alexander is going to show up with a flat tyre, looking for help.
17:36Now, I'm just going very carefully to let the air out of this tyre.
17:47There's a lot of air in one of these things, isn't there? Look at that.
17:51There we go.
17:53Right. So this will make it look like I really, really need expert help.
17:59As Alexander hides, Mike arrives for his interview and we jump straight in.
18:05So, Cyclists Fighting Cancer is a registered charity in the UK.
18:10I founded it in 2005, after my own five-year journey with blood cancer.
18:17And how many bikes have you guys...
18:18It's over 10,000 and last year I actually delivered the 10,000th.
18:24Now, Mike's just sitting there now, so it's time for me to put my acting skills to the test.
18:31So, as someone that's sort of donating, what's the sort of process for them, would you say?
18:36People have a bike. For whatever reason, they've got a spare bike that they're happy to give to us.
18:45Mike instantly recognises Alexander.
18:47I was just going past and I saw the lights were on here.
18:49I've got a puncture in my back tyre.
18:52Yeah, the guys are sorted out.
18:52Do you think you could...
18:53As long as we get a selfie and stuff before you get it.
18:56Yeah, of course you could.
18:58Mike almost thinks it's too good to be true.
19:01It's like we've staged this, isn't it?
19:02We're just doing a thing for, like, we're a charity shop.
19:06Yeah.
19:06We're just talking about the charity and...
19:08It's a charity...
19:08It's a bike shop.
19:09Yeah, it's a charity bike shop.
19:10It's a charity bike shop.
19:10Oh, I'm so sorry.
19:12No, it's fine.
19:13I'm sorry.
19:13No, no, these things aren't what it's all about.
19:16The shop's team are all in on our surprise, so they willingly take his bike and Alexander
19:21can find out more about Mike.
19:23So, what is the charity?
19:24So, it's Cyclists Fighting Cancer.
19:26We give bikes, specially adapted trikes and equipment to children living with cancer.
19:33That's incredible.
19:34Did you set this up?
19:34Yeah, I set it up.
19:35Yeah, that's what we talked about.
19:37When did you do this?
19:3720 years ago.
19:38You've been doing this for 20 years?
19:4020 years.
19:40Mike, you're a superstar.
19:42Yeah, thanks, mate.
19:42That's so nice to meet you.
19:43What an honour.
19:44Of course, Alexander knows all of this already, and he's brought a gift.
19:49Well, listen, you've been incredibly kind to me.
19:51I just wanted to...
19:51I'm going to give you something in return.
19:54I'd like you to have that, and perhaps if you just see where it's got something written on it.
20:01I haven't been entirely straight with you.
20:05I might have let the air out of my tyre myself, but I wasn't going past there.
20:11I do actually know all about you, Mike, and I know all about your charity.
20:15Yeah, I'm here with The One Show to give you one big thank you.
20:20What?
20:21Yeah.
20:23Sorry, I thought you were taking the point out of yourself.
20:26Mike is blown away, and Alexander has one more surprise.
20:31Mike, come and have a look at this over here.
20:33OK.
20:33Well, what now?
20:35Hi, Mike.
20:36Well, 20 years of helping people who are living with cancer is just remarkable,
20:40and we wanted to thank you for all that you do.
20:44Thank you, Mike, for everything you do for children with cancer,
20:47from the therapy team at Sheffield Children's Foundation Trust.
20:50Thank you for keeping what you do.
20:52You're one of the kind.
20:52Thank you so much, Mike.
20:55You're welcome, Mike.
20:56For the number of new ones.
20:58Thank you!
21:00Thanks, Mike, for being such an inspiration!
21:04So, Chris Hoy sent this message.
21:07Hi, Mike.
21:08I hope you're doing well.
21:09It's Chris Hoy here.
21:10Oh.
21:11I just wanted to let you know that I think it is an incredible thing
21:15that you've done in setting up cyclists fighting cancer.
21:1820 years is simply amazing.
21:22So, well done, and a big thank you for all you continue to do.
21:26Thanks, Chris.
21:27And later, Mike St-Henry sent this message from Australia.
21:31I'm really glad you're getting the recognition you really deserve.
21:35It's been a long time coming, because all the hard work is paying off now,
21:39and the CFC is truly a monumental charity.
21:43And all I can say is I'm really proud of you, Dad, and I love you a lot.
21:50How are you feeling?
21:52I'm lost away, so that's very rare.
21:54But thanks, everybody, for making it happen.
22:00Oh, well, if you know someone doing wonderful things like Mike there,
22:07do get in touch at one big thank you at bbc.co.uk,
22:10and tell us all about them.
22:11Yeah, I really like that surprise.
22:13A big thanks to Alexander for helping us with it.
22:16And by the way, Alexander's new book, Evenfall, The Tempest Stone,
22:20is out in hardback now.
22:22Oh, he was brilliant in that, wasn't he?
22:24Now then, Tessa, let's come to you, because you are preparing for a new play,
22:29a very exciting, called Invisible Me.
22:31You play a lady called Lynn.
22:33Tell us a bit about Lynn, then, and how she fits into the story.
22:37Well, at the start of the play, she's very timid, shy.
22:41She's a cleaner.
22:42She has anxiety issues.
22:45She's been alone in a house for two years.
22:47Her mum's died.
22:48She had, before that, a fairly abusive relationship.
22:51Her husband had left years ago.
22:53So she doesn't have very much self-esteem.
22:55And the same with the other two characters, the three of us in the play.
23:00Each of us are going to go on a bit of a journey.
23:03She meets somebody who sort of turns her life around.
23:06And you watch her, hopefully, the audience will watch her,
23:09go from this sort of rather timid person to finding her self-worth
23:14and her self-esteem again.
23:15And she does some very surprising things on the old online dating thing,
23:21which she has, of course, no knowledge of whatsoever being 60.
23:24They're all three of them are 60.
23:26And the play is very beautiful and touching,
23:28but it deals with how, in your isolation,
23:31how it's quite hard sometimes to reach out and meet new people,
23:35particularly if you're not technically, you know, able.
23:38And by the end, they've all sort of gone on this journey.
23:42And it's very heartwarming because they end up in a much happier place
23:46and much more sense of self-confidence.
23:50It's really insightful, though.
23:51But you said this character is someone that you really felt you related to as well.
23:55Well, you know, at 60, the play is called Invisible Me.
23:59And I really do believe this.
24:01You hit 60 and you do become a little bit invisible.
24:04I mean, there are two things I noticed that can make you invisible.
24:08One is being our age and the other is when you start wearing glasses.
24:12And somebody said to me years ago, when you start wearing glasses,
24:15nobody will look at you.
24:16And I thought, don't be ridiculous.
24:17And about five years ago, I started wearing them.
24:20And it's true.
24:21People look through you.
24:22They don't see you.
24:23Really?
24:24It's really extraordinary.
24:25Yeah.
24:26I think you look gorgeous.
24:28Yeah.
24:28They suit you.
24:29And I've always wanted glasses.
24:31What are they talking about?
24:32I don't know.
24:32It's very odd.
24:33Well, look, there'll be so many people watching right now
24:35who will be very much looking at you and very much excited about the fact
24:38that Only Fools and Horses, of course, is its 45th anniversary.
24:42Yeah.
24:42And you got to spend some time with Dale Boy himself, Sir David Jason,
24:46for a new documentary.
24:48Now, we can actually take a look at Sir David being less
24:50than complimentary about your singing.
24:53Oh, I don't even remember this.
24:55Was it cut?
24:56It was cut.
24:57That's why we don't remember it.
24:58That was because you couldn't sing.
25:00Well, of course it was.
25:01Yes.
25:01Oh, God.
25:02All those lovely jokes that I had there.
25:05So, they were running over and they thought,
25:08what scene should we cut?
25:09Her singing.
25:13Yeah.
25:14Well, we see there, you know, the scenes that were cut from the original.
25:18How was it reliving those moments with Sir David?
25:22Well, do you know, it's really weird because it's not like you're looking
25:25at something from a couple of years ago.
25:27This is decades and decades ago.
25:30So, I mean, we were in, you know, our 30s, 40s, 50s then.
25:35And so, it was very odd.
25:37I hate looking at myself anyway.
25:38I don't watch anything I'm in.
25:39So, to have to sit there, it was like torture to look at yourself 30 years ago.
25:44It felt really weird.
25:46And David was quite touched by it all, actually.
25:50He found it very nostalgic.
25:51And I think part of it was, you know, he was looking at himself in his prime
25:56when he was top of his game, you know.
25:58And I think that's quite a lot for him, 45 years.
26:01That's a lot longer than I was in it.
26:03It must have felt very odd and he's very moving about it.
26:06It's, I think the public will really enjoy the programme,
26:08partly because it is unseen footage.
26:10So, no one, including us, has ever seen this stuff.
26:13But also, he's very interesting, what he talks about.
26:16Oh, people will love it, no doubt.
26:18I think they will.
26:19100%.
26:19Barry, are you a big fan of Only Falls?
26:21Yeah, of course.
26:21And you, both of you, such true national treasures in the best way.
26:26You won your place in everybody's heart with that show.
26:30Well, it was beautifully written.
26:33Well, you can see Tessa also in Invisible Me at the Southwark Playhouse Borough
26:37from April the 8th and tickets are available now.
26:41Yeah, we have been flooded with comments for everyone here.
26:44I'm going to start with this for Vicky.
26:45Meryl has said, thank you, Vicky, for shining a light on this horrible crime.
26:50Talking about your podcast soon.
26:52And Maria says, Tessa is fabulous on Grantchester,
26:55a real national threat, last in the series tonight.
26:57Last one tonight, is it?
26:58Yes.
26:58Of this series.
26:59Yes, of this series.
27:01And have we got time?
27:02Yeah, go on.
27:02Paul says, as someone who suffers from anxiety and depression,
27:05it's so nice to see the wilderness of Wales being used in such a great way, Ben.
27:08That's brilliant.
27:09There we go.
27:09Something for everyone.
27:11Well, that's all we've got time for tonight.
27:12A huge thank you to all of our guests.
27:14Yeah, Clara and JB will be here tomorrow.
27:16They'll be joined by Oscar and BAFTA-nominated actor Rose Byrne,
27:19Strictly Pro, Johannes Radebe, singer Callum Scott and rapper H.
27:22Have a lovely evening.
27:23Bye-bye.
27:24Bye ænda
27:24JANET
27:26T T
27:27Yeah.
27:30Okay, Josh.
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