John invites Catherine to share her story of joining the Jesus Movement in the early 1970s and becoming trapped in a nomadic, authoritarian group led by Jim Roberts. Together, they explore how radical obedience, perfectionism, and apocalyptic urgency slowly replaced faith in Christ with fear-driven loyalty to leadership.
As the conversation unfolds, John and Catherine connect these patterns to broader charismatic and revivalist movements, showing how fear, isolation, and leader-mediated obedience function as tools of control. The discussion offers insight for anyone trying to understand spiritual abuse, deconstruction, and how high-control religious systems reshape belief, identity, and relationships.
00:00 Introduction
00:31 Katherine’s Background in the Jesus Movement
04:00 End-Times Urgency and Isolation
12:57 Radical Obedience and Perfectionism
18:24 Fear, Expulsion, and Public Shaming
29:44 Control Through Apocalyptic Teaching
37:51 Abuse, Authority, and Gender Roles
44:44 Breaking Away and Rebuilding Faith
52:32 Deconstruction, Healing, and Reordering Belief
56:17 Where the Movement Is Today
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