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A news webcast in Cebuano. A Cebu City Councilor Joel Garganera returns to the program for a follow-up discussion on the Binaliw Landfill and the proposed Waste-to-Energy (WTE) project.
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01:05Which is 600 tons per day.
01:08Last Sunday, residents in Binalio are drawing a line saying their community should not be treated as a sacrifice zone.
01:16Beyond the headlines of landfill closure and emergency measures is a system under strain.
01:26Garbage does not vanish when a landfill, more accurately a dump site, closes.
01:33It moves.
01:34And every movement carries consequences for communities, for governance, and for public trust.
01:43So joining us once again today is Councillor Joel Gardnera, who chairs the City Council's Committee on Environment and has
01:51been actively involved in monitoring the waste management in Cebu.
01:56So good afternoon, Councillor Joel, and welcome back to the show.
02:00Yeah, good afternoon, Moises.
02:02And also to our audience, mayang hapon ka na tong kanan.
02:05And yeah, obviously you are on your car and thank you very much for making time for this.
02:10Sorry for that.
02:12Now, sige, kanang cons.
02:14Ang first question ako is, we will begin with the article that I read in Philippine Star, which was published
02:22on February 6, no?
02:23That says, during a special session of the Cebu City Council Department of Public Services.
02:30Okay, sorry.
02:32During the special session of Cebu City Council, Department of Public Services Head, nga si John Paul Galaske, was unable
02:39to answer councillor's queries regarding the landfill's new guidelines.
02:44And this was seen that there was no coordination between Cebu City and Consolacion.
02:52So, can you share to us what exactly transpired during the session?
02:58Actually, that was the same day where the mayor of Consolacion issued a memorandum regarding the guidelines on the volume
03:10of garbage that will be accepted to the different LGUs.
03:15That includes Mandawi, Cebu, and also Tlapu-Lapo.
03:22So, normally, wala adjud makahibawasid si Pol or si Poloy.
03:30Because during the course of the session, wala pa mana siya mapagawasid si Pol.
03:35But then again, it was very clear also, because I talked with the son, who happens to be the vice
03:42mayor of Consolacion, few days before that.
03:45Now, there was really no coordination from the office of the mayor.
03:50And wala adjud.
03:51And I think until now, until now, no?
03:54Murag wala adjud coordination.
03:56Mona, we are in a crisis karoon because average-wise, we produce 550 to 600 tons a day.
04:05And yet, they can only accommodate 150.
04:10So, Mona, atong problema ron sa siyudad, pag-asa na na nato ipahimutang ng extra nato, na daily nato, na
04:20volume na mawapot, around 450 tons.
04:24So, when we say, actually, Consolacion, na there was no coordination, was there even a call that transpired between Cebu
04:34City Mayor Nestor Archival and also the mayor of Consolacion, si Mayor Aligado?
04:40To my knowledge, not even a phone call.
04:44But as what Mayor Nestor relayed to us during our Solid Waste Management meeting the other week, na he tasked
04:54his city administrator, Albertan, and also si DPS head na to, si Engineer Gilasque.
05:03But unfortunately, wag ko na magkatugma ang ilang schedule, that of the mayor, sa konsolasyon.
05:13So, wag yan, wala giyenguntang na direct coordination, huwag matun pa sa atong mayor sa konsolasyon, na the Cebu City
05:27Government coordinate directly with Asian Energy, na mawawang facility.
05:34Mawapitaw, in last Tuesday nato, na session last week, I filed a corollary motion, na to strongly advise our mayor,
05:44na kita may nagkahinganlan, na you have to coordinate with the chief executive sa konsolasyon.
05:51It's not enough, na mo suffice lang na nga mo coordinate sa facility, because magamit mo ta sa ilang daan,
06:00makabalda magid ta sa ilang traffic, makabalda ta sa komunidadi ha, labi na sa pulog.
06:08So, parang na ako, that is really very basic ba, no?
06:12So, tingali yung na, o natin ito yung mahibawan between the other day o karoon, but insofar, as to my
06:19recollection, wala giyeng coordination directly with the chief executive.
06:23And at least it's good, no, because in spite of the lack of, or if not even having a coordination
06:31between the two executives, at least the mayor of consolation still accepted, no, the garbage that are also coming from
06:39Cebu City.
06:40So, now, you mentioned earlier, actually, cons, and I've read that also in the same report, that there's a cap,
06:47no, that was set, no, so that's a maximum of 150 tons per day, which is, as you've mentioned, way
06:55below, no, our, the garbage that's generated in Cebu City, which is 550 to 600 tons per day.
07:02So, assuming a 600 tons ba, and every day, so it's, it's like, kanang natay variants every day.
07:11So, how do you think the city can, or should manage the remaining 450 tons per day, nga walay kabutangan?
07:19That's really a challenge, and in fact, taghanang kayo mga barangay captains, they deploy their garbage truck dito, but they
07:27were not allowed to dump, because they already reached the limit, and in fact,
07:31they devised another scheme, na saan, o, tila rakapuk garbage truck, na i-allow, nga i-deploy dito sa pulog,
07:41and in fact, daghanas sa mga
07:43Facebook sa mga barangay captain, nga they announced that they will not be collecting today, no, sa ilahang respective area
07:51of
07:51responsibility kay ang ilang mga truck puno pa man wala pa man sila makadam no so kanisya medyo
08:00medyo crash course ganisya about segregation we are in really in a very abnormal situation
08:08karon but this is something wala sa nato na ma-anticipate okay long overdue naman eh ang
08:14kaning knowledge kaning edukasyon nato na segregations at start at source no so ako lang hangyo sa mga
08:22naminaw karon kanang recyclable nato ng mga ng mga basura sama sa butilya sama sa mga plastic
08:30karton o guban pa kanang dili manin maho kung pwede pa lang isafe lang na nato iset aside na nato
08:38kay ang ato mag yung problema ang kaning mapaho kaning malata o niya o kaning dili malata masagulan ni mo
08:45sa mga
08:45hasang sa isda o uban pang manin maho ang kaning tanan manin maho yun so we should start
08:52segregating mismo sa atong balayin not necessary nga naimu kuleta at least at least no ah di li tama
09:00overwhelm mismo sa atong kagalingong panimalayin and and i think that's a very helpful guideline at
09:08least that you're saying consul it will not solve the problem but i hope the viewers have captured
09:12that if we do not do anything that means that we have 450 tons per day no of garbage that
09:21remains
09:22without direction you're right you're right uh maona as uh if if ako sa i lakpit sa'y sa'y
09:31no nga
09:31that is really where the need comes to have a waste to energy facility okay ang kanimagong wte ah mindful
09:40kayo niya sa mga sa mga lgu or mga nasod nga we don't have enough land no to accommodate kay
09:48kanimagong
09:49landfill or open dam site for that matter magka namang guna yung kadako hunya ang volume sa basura
09:56uh dilitman animu ma reduce unlike in a waste to energy facility na ang basura ang volume ma reduced
10:02niya to by from 91 to 95 percent so that is something uh uh they are gone out of thin
10:10air no
10:11oh niya ikaduha oh niya uh of course uh uh itandini mo sa open dam site ang ang emission diha
10:20sa
10:20itong waste to energy namawang carbon dioxide itandini mo sa methane times 84 harmful no mas grabe kayo and look
10:29know what we've been experiencing yes and then um and then um sa diri sa binalyo and then on top
10:37of
10:37that labi na ang cebu city we are not an energy generating uh city wak mantay wak mantay mag generate
10:44og energy power diri kana na lang daan nga maka generate that that could address something like 20 to 30
10:52thousand household that is something pero para nagot ang pag reducible yung moggi pinaka importante
11:00that's icing on the cake na lang ang nai energy no the corner kaina nga kaayuhan para ka nato no
11:08so
11:08but again wak mantana pamat wak mantana manag pasabot nga just because we're into that technology
11:14which by the way 90 percent of the advanced country and even in asia moro kita nalami wa no
11:21uh are doing uh are doing dili man sana nagpasabot nga we will not do our part in segregating in
11:29recycling these are these are not exclusive they can go in tandem uh mas mas gamay ang atong basura
11:35maproduce mas maayo because we can never deny the fact like for example cebu city we have 600 tons
11:42no umakasalbar mang itang 50 tons as it is right now nakasalbarta between 15 to 20 tons a day
11:49dia sa carbon if makasalbarta 50 tons perhaps in the next six months what are we going to do with
11:56the other 550 as it is right now nag problema manganitangan nakakomodate la 150 ang pulog
12:02we're looking forward but we're looking forward because what we are doing right now but don't
12:08this are temporary these are these are temporary and then we should need something that is sustainable
12:19and lasting and correct me if i'm wrong constantly if we just and and the reason that i am bringing
12:26this up not necessarily because we want to point fingers but just for the viewers including myself to
12:33also learned our lesson ba regarding kanang the use of landfill you made a a a a point no na
12:41kanang
12:42an open dump site which uh what we have today is also hazardous no and it's real and then you
12:51also
12:51mentioned na kanang not to mention that we have limited space no and and and so there is a corresponding
13:01benefit to waste to energy you know if that's really the route that the city or even the country would
13:08want to pursue but i'd like to go back lang a little bit and backtrack and this is for lessons
13:14learned
13:15context when mayor archival guested in the show he actually admitted no nakatong nikolaps
13:24were not buried garbage no but they were really piles of trash no reaching about 20 to 24 stories and
13:34from my
13:34research cons an open dump site is a violation of republic act 9003 and for the context of lesson
13:45learned learned learned i know that you also opposed no from from inayawan you also opposed binalio but why
13:52are we still using open dump sites no like binalio in spite of it being a violation of republic act
14:009003
14:03well if you have to be serious about it so-called landfill that is a cebu not just in cebu
14:10city they
14:10are on all open dump site no so that is something that we have to address to the in our
14:16emb by that
14:18alone they're being remiss and in fact it took me to file a writ of calicasan against emb and also
14:25the
14:25incumbent mayor at that time just to prove that that is an open dump site that is no longer a
14:30sanitary landfill so somehow emb needs to be educated on what is a sanitary landfill and what is an e
14:36on what is a an open dump site no in fact last week when the members of the uh investigation
14:44team that
14:45was being formed by the national government mostly composed of dnr officials my first question to them
14:52have you been to the have you been to the how have you been to the facility they said yes
14:56now please
14:58describe to me is it a landfill or a dump site and all of them said it's a dump site
15:03so that in
15:04itself alone no uh wala good no more na nga i cannot i cannot also blame uh people in the
15:11area
15:12they are sa binalio ba you know you know wapagini mahuman tag-imbestigasyon wapagitan mahuman huwag
15:17say atong mga lakang sunod may tungod niya na ngang facility wapaganita maghisgot o pag-stabilize
15:24diha sa ilahang midahili nga basura nga diin ah ah ah arun paglihay sa sunod nga
15:32disgrasya wapagitan mahibaw kun say resulta sa investigasyon as well o suungkanus ang
15:38magsugot ang rehabilitation ato nasa noon ah at gado maayo o la in asad noon nga na teknolohiya
15:46sama na yung wte munang nakasabot ko sa mga tao diya sa binalio nga they're still grieving
15:52wapagani mong gas wapagani kurinta dia sa mga tao nga nangamatay diha no punya ah mo mo mo mo
16:02luksyon na nang hinuunta sa sunod nga teknolohiya kung sa may kasiguruan nga ka na sila
16:07mo operate pa o balik sa akong sa akong dipanulti na sa kadaghanan nga that is still a considered a
16:16crime scene kaya wala pa mata wala pa mata kibaw kun say resulta and then somehow wala
16:22dyan ko matagamtam sa pagbisita sa investigative team murag kalitra ka ayaw murag less than an hour
16:29amount ngayon diha sila sa conference room sa atong mayor niya ipad na ang ograko because at that
16:35time we were having a uh a session a special session regarding the approval of the budget intended for
16:43the asian energy so i was hoping that mubalik sila so there will be a multi-sectoral all stakeholders
16:52that wish we should have an ocular visit mismo sa site together with emb together with prime together
17:01with some professionals who are knowledgeable about this kind of facility and at the same time of
17:06course an lgu you know when you submit to a an honest to goodness uh investigation this should also
17:13include the lgu they should also include us we are also being remiss no so somehow at least
17:23uh dili kay lahi ang ilang investigasyon sa prime lahi ang investigasyon din sa moa so uh
17:30i hope and pray no nga mubalik sila i already relayed this information to one of the officials
17:36there is a dean origin seven i hope no around once and for all i want to wrap up my
17:41own investigation
17:43so so it's it looks like at least listening to you that even the the understanding of the cause
17:51and the closure of the tragedy is not also um uh significantly moving forward at least no
18:00to my knowledge to my knowledge well give me update well again uh aside from that no
18:07mingon tangalita nga trying to pack a adlaw but you know lesson learned but payatas it took them 24 years
18:16no uh to decide on the case or can sign a copable liability
18:28yeah so we don't want that to happen here we don't want that to happen here so we want
18:33something that it should be very transparent and we should be updated in fact that's one of the reason
18:39uh uh executive session and just to
18:44when we conducted that executive session one of the primeways
18:51when i'm gonna get into us iambi but it was not the uh regional director that was
18:56with us for the past pilakatuhi
18:58we had to pullihan lang no so i hope you don't give a ton
19:01no how can how can the office answer no uh intelligently
19:10now my inform me uh uh
19:13sa mga tubag na among gustong ipaabot now mismo ang bagong original director
19:18sa iambi who happens to be a lawyer
19:20and a science uh
19:23central office what my cup of bag
19:26no so it was more of a fact finding
19:29and then perhaps whatever investigative body like the composite team
19:33sa dnr or
19:34sa senate ba or sa nbi ba at least na amy initial information na among mashare
19:41and then that's why i wonder why uh mayor tammy osmenya was opposed to this
19:46na uh saying we don't have the technical know-how
19:50maubitaw na na atong atong imbitaron so that we will also be enlightened no as to
19:56what transpired that leads to that uh tragic event no uh gunny johnny para kanako
20:05para kanago uh mas maayog yun punta nga
20:10uh but he guy on me i mean i i i talk already with some members of the council
20:16uh yesterday and they are with uh with uh with idea na amoy pa
20:21daion we will still invite uh uh primeways and then we will ask the in our emb to send
20:29here uh the the previous regional director no if you want to get to the bottom of it
20:35it seems like what my information
20:37na pu-pu na mo
20:40niya itong niagi
20:41na executive session
20:44so
20:45going to the
20:47direction of waste
20:49to energy or WTE
20:51cons ba, the last time you
20:53guested here
20:54we also talked about
20:57what could have been the WTE
20:59facility in Guba
21:01and when Mayor Archibald
21:04was also here
21:05we clarified his
21:07position also specific to
21:09Guba and the statement
21:11that he said
21:13he was among the four counselors
21:15that opposed
21:17the Guba WTE
21:19because among the
21:21reasons that he told us
21:23was because of the
21:25800 tons per
21:27day minimum required
21:29to run
21:31such facility
21:33and what are your thoughts
21:35about this
21:35because this is not
21:37the same also
21:38as what we talked
21:39about when we
21:40had a conversation
21:41the last time you
21:42were here
21:43in fact when I heard that
21:48the
21:53general
21:54consul
21:55of japan
21:56visited me that very
21:57afternoon
21:58and then that was after
22:00your program
22:01and then when I told the
22:03consul general
22:05of japan about what the
22:07mayor said
22:07because
22:08to his understanding
22:10the mayor is open
22:11with the waste to energy
22:12but then again looking
22:13focusing on what he said
22:16about the 800 tons
22:18minimum
22:19that was to energy
22:22for it to operate
22:24I told him personally
22:25that
22:26you know
22:29during the solid waste
22:30management
22:31and I said that
22:34in front of all the
22:35members of the
22:36solid waste management
22:37in fact
22:38that is very unfair
22:44in fact
22:46nowhere in the joint
22:48venture agreement
22:49that says that
22:49we have a minimum
22:50no
22:51so
22:51it has an 800 ton
22:59capacity
22:59maximum capacity
23:01the one
23:04will run for 400
23:05so
23:08and I think the mayor
23:10knows that
23:10and I don't know
23:11why it came out
23:14minimum
23:15so
23:17he's not telling
23:18the truth there
23:19on the other side
23:23in 2022
23:25yes
23:25all of us
23:28were thinking
23:31there's a space there
23:32but it turned out
23:35that's why
23:37but
23:39when we file
23:40for the extension
23:41another extension
23:43another extension
23:44nahibaw na siya
23:45nga
23:46asa da pita
23:46ang
23:49ibutang na mo
23:50diya sa guba
23:50in fact
23:51I showed a picture
23:52where I went to his
23:54office
23:55and then
23:55I really
23:56point on the
23:57map
23:57huwag asa da pita
23:59and then
23:59somehow
24:00when I heard
24:01nga
24:01asa kibaw
24:02again
24:03the mayor's
24:04not telling
24:04the truth
24:05hindi man na
24:06maayosan nga
24:07nga
24:08nga to lang
24:08transparent lang ta
24:09and then
24:10that one thing
24:11also nahingo na siya
24:12nga wasa kibaw
24:12and then he's just
24:13being consistent
24:14di na tinuon
24:15no
24:16and also
24:17di man kainganlan nga
24:19bright kaiota
24:21he's just being
24:23consistent
24:23and also
24:24personnel from his
24:26office
24:26were also
24:27very visible
24:28during the
24:30during the
24:31course of
24:33the public hearing
24:34and the different
24:35group meetings
24:36dito mismo
24:37sa barangay
24:39guba
24:39that
24:40they are
24:41very much
24:41against it
24:42so I
24:42told him
24:43okay
24:44as what
24:45I promised
24:45and assured
24:47the people
24:48of guba
24:49nga
24:49ugdi li mo
24:50musugot
24:50dili ni ipamugos
24:51no
24:52but it was
24:53very clear
24:54the mayor
24:55was very much
24:55against it
24:56and
24:58what I
24:58don't like
24:59lang
24:59maghi mo
25:00huwag story
25:01nga
25:01dilitin
25:01and then
25:03now
25:04sige
25:05so we'll go
25:05back
25:06na po
25:06just for us
25:07to understand
25:08better also
25:09what is
25:10happening
25:10specific to
25:11how we are
25:11managing
25:12the waste
25:13ba
25:13kay di ba
25:14na mention
25:14mo na to
25:15in the beginning
25:15of the interview
25:16nga
25:16as we speak
25:18natay
25:19450
25:20tons
25:21per day
25:21nga
25:22watakabalo
25:22ahagin din na to
25:23ibutang
25:24and salamat
25:25sa imu
25:25ang suggestion
25:26earlier
25:26for the residents
25:27to also do
25:28segregation
25:28at least
25:29magamay
25:30ang 450
25:31ngagap
25:32now in that
25:33same interview
25:34also with
25:35mayor Archibald
25:35he mentioned
25:36something like
25:373 hectares
25:38in Binalio
25:40that will be
25:40used
25:41this time
25:42as a real
25:43landfill
25:44dili nagin siya
25:45dump site
25:45and when we
25:46asked him
25:47if
25:47how can we
25:48make sure
25:49kay murag na
25:50magintay pattern
25:50of starting
25:51with a landfill
25:52like inayawan
25:53and then
25:54it becomes
25:54a dump site
25:55over time
25:56and then
25:56his assurance
25:57was
25:58he will really
25:59issue
25:59an executive
26:00order
26:01to form
26:01a team
26:02to visit
26:03there
26:04every week
26:04every month
26:05on a regular
26:06basis
26:07to make sure
26:08that it
26:08operates
26:09on a
26:10landfill
26:11so as
26:11the head
26:13of Cebu
26:13City's
26:14council
26:14of
26:14environment
26:15what are
26:16your thoughts
26:17about
26:17opening
26:183 hectares
26:19of new
26:20landfill
26:21also in
26:22Binalio
26:24yeah
26:24that doesn't
26:25come
26:25as
26:25surprise
26:27because
26:27he told
26:28me
26:28three days
26:29after
26:30the
26:30after
26:31the
26:31event
26:32after
26:32the
26:32tragic
26:33event
26:33that was
26:34January 8
26:35January 10
26:36he told me
26:38after his
26:38press
26:39when I asked
26:41him
26:41Mayor
26:43why don't
26:43we
26:44go to
26:45different
26:47LGU
26:47facility
26:49to distribute
26:53our
26:54mga
26:54basura
26:55so
26:56Gaius
26:56or LGU
26:58to accommodate
26:59sa tanang
27:00basura
27:00ma-overwhelm
27:01but his
27:02reply
27:02was
27:03no
27:04we have
27:04three hectares
27:05sa
27:07Binalio
27:07one
27:09na
27:11taken
27:12aback
27:12yan
27:14ang
27:14adlaw
27:14unong
27:15pag
27:15ganit
27:15atong
27:15na
27:16retrieved
27:16na
27:17bodies
27:17napaitray
27:18tanahibilin
27:18and then
27:19nagunahuna
27:19na siya
27:20o
27:20o
27:21o
27:21an
27:22kaning
27:23operate
27:24on the
27:25remaining
27:25three
27:26hectares
27:26na wala
27:27ko
27:27ma-appeal
27:28huwag pa
27:29maganita
27:30maghisgot
27:31o
27:31stabilization
27:32sa maong
27:33nagdahili
27:34because
27:35that is
27:36really
27:36very
27:37hazardous
27:37pa niyan
27:38ng lugar
27:38ha
27:38huwag pa
27:39itang
27:40maghisgot
27:40o
27:40rehabilitation
27:41huwag pa
27:41itang
27:41maghisgot
27:42sa
27:42investigation
27:43and now
27:44he's
27:44open
27:44to
27:45that
27:45na
27:45no
27:46so
27:48ang iyang
27:49gitanao
27:49tingali
27:50ang
27:50immediate
27:50na to
27:51which is
27:54temporary
27:55in nature
27:56compared
27:56sa
27:57Nemo
27:57sa pagpaglabay
27:58na to
27:59sa upan
27:59we are
28:00not in
28:00control
28:01but
28:01as it
28:02is
28:02right
28:02now
28:03I think
28:04he knows
28:05something
28:05that we
28:06don't
28:06know
28:06why
28:07he's
28:07so
28:07very
28:07positive
28:08there
28:08are
28:09three
28:09hectares
28:09pa
28:09nga
28:10I
28:11think
28:11he needs
28:11to
28:11explain
28:12to
28:12us
28:14he's
28:15he's
28:19he's
28:21he's
28:21he's
28:22he's
28:22he's
28:22on
28:23saman
28:24on
28:24samay
28:24daga
28:25na
28:25ron
28:25sa
28:25investigation
28:27safe
28:28na ba
28:28di ha
28:29na
28:29humana
28:30ba
28:30ang katong
28:31nangamatay
28:31are they
28:32were they
28:33given
28:33justice
28:33or
28:35were they
28:36able
28:36to address
28:37kailahang
28:38problema
28:38or
28:39na
28:39stabilize
28:40na ba
28:40di ha
28:41and
28:41then
28:42I
28:43think
28:43he knows
28:43something
28:44that we
28:44don't
28:44know
28:45kaya
28:45he
28:45so
28:46in
28:46the
28:47affirmative
28:47na
28:47iabli
28:48na
28:48ang
28:49atong
28:50binalio
28:51for
28:51the
28:51three
28:51hectares
28:52nila
28:52nga
28:54he
28:54operate
28:54as
28:55a
28:56sanitary
28:56landfill
28:57so
28:57I
28:58think
28:58he
28:58needs
28:59to
28:59explain
28:59more
28:59on
29:00that
29:00aspect
29:01and
29:02then
29:02now
29:02let's
29:03go
29:03to
29:03the
29:03protest
29:04that
29:05the
29:05residents
29:06of
29:06binalio
29:07are
29:08now
29:08having
29:09and
29:10among
29:10the
29:10statements
29:11that
29:11they
29:12are
29:12saying
29:12is
29:13they
29:14are
29:14being
29:15treated
29:15as
29:16a
29:16sacrifice
29:16zone
29:17so
29:18from
29:18an
29:19environmental
29:19standpoint
29:21cons
29:21do you
29:22think
29:22they
29:23have
29:23a
29:23point
29:24I
29:25feel
29:25for
29:25them
29:26I
29:27think
29:27directly
29:28and
29:29I
29:29been
29:29exposed
29:31and
29:31encountering
29:32all
29:32this
29:32all
29:34this
29:34environmental
29:35violation
29:36foul
29:37odor
29:37traffic
29:39and
29:40I'll
29:41do
29:41the
29:41same
29:41I'll
29:42do
29:43the
29:43same
29:43and
29:43then
29:44right
29:44now
29:44sama
29:45sa
29:45kong
29:45kisulti
29:46wapag
29:46ane
29:46mo
29:46mo
29:47tapos
29:48ang
29:49Curinta
29:49Diaz
29:49din
29:50nga
29:51ni
29:51pano
29:51tong
29:5136
29:52ka
29:52mga
29:53mga
29:54biktima
29:54diha
29:54nag
29:56hisgot
29:56na
29:56sa
29:56ta
29:56uglain
29:57kaneng
29:58kaneng
29:59it's
30:00very
30:00unfair
30:01to
30:01them
30:01although
30:02I
30:02know
30:02for
30:03a
30:03fact
30:03na
30:03nai
30:04ubandi
30:05anengon
30:05nai
30:05hisgot
30:06waste
30:06to
30:06energy
30:07well
30:07which
30:08of
30:08course
30:08ni
30:10uyun
30:10po
30:10sa
30:11ako
30:11sa
30:11niya
30:11tinguhan
30:12nga
30:12para
30:12ka
30:12na
30:13ako
30:13mawagi
30:13tubag
30:14na to
30:14sa
30:15atong
30:16dakbayan
30:17maghisgot
30:17mo
30:18ito
30:18sustainable
30:18no
30:19but
30:20then
30:20again
30:20the
30:20timing
30:21karun
30:21murag
30:23murabag
30:24nanguyab
30:25ko
30:26nila
30:28konyia
30:28ipakyas
30:29na ko
30:29sila
30:30sa
30:30akong
30:30sad
30:30murag
30:31silag
30:31na
30:31pamabdusan
30:33konyia
30:34karun
30:34na sad
30:35lahi
30:35na sad
30:36pag-upagani
30:37no
30:37pag-upan
30:38hay
30:38tabo
30:39so
30:39I
30:39feel
30:40I
30:40feel
30:41muna
30:41sad
30:42akong
30:42gilikayan
30:43kay
30:43usahay
30:47madaot
30:47namagod
30:48ang atong
30:49pangunahona
30:50kung unsan
30:50na siyang
30:51waste
30:51to
30:51energy
30:51so
30:54murabag
30:54madahig
30:55na ba
30:56madahig
30:56na ba
30:56kay
30:57pag-upagani
30:58niya karun
30:58himuha
30:59na sad
30:59I feel
31:00for them
31:00I feel
31:00for them
31:02right now
31:03ang pinaka
31:04ang pinaka
31:05importante
31:06karun
31:06is
31:06tiwason din
31:08ang
31:08investigasyon
31:09and then
31:10first and foremost
31:11unsan na may resulta
31:13na stabilize
31:13nila
31:15ang maong
31:15pagdahili
31:16kaya that is
31:17really a
31:17disaster
31:18bound to
31:18happen
31:19and then
31:23and
31:24kanong saman
31:25mong
31:25comments
31:25ang ilahang
31:26rehabilitation
31:26di ta
31:27mag-isgo
31:27tog
31:28opening
31:31layo
31:31pa na
31:33gani
31:34umahitabo
31:34ba na
31:35layo
31:36pa na
31:36so
31:38mawotang
31:39nga li
31:39ang
31:40angay
31:40natong
31:40pag-atutukan
31:41karun
31:42ang maong
31:42investigasyon
31:43kung sa
31:43na ba
31:43yung
31:44resulta
31:44kung
31:45naaba
31:46kaduha
31:47is
31:47ang
31:47pag-stabilize
31:48ang ikatulo
31:49is
31:50ang
31:50rehabilitation
31:51and
31:52ang
31:53next
31:53question
31:53is
31:54something
31:54to do
31:55with
31:55kanang
31:55mo
31:55zoom
31:56out
31:56na
31:56taba
31:56because
31:57you've
31:57mentioned
31:57payatas
31:58and
31:59you've
31:59also
31:59mentioned
32:00that
32:00even
32:00in
32:00the
32:00history
32:01of
32:01Cebu
32:02our
32:03landfills
32:03are
32:04actually
32:04open
32:06dump
32:06sites
32:07so
32:07now
32:08with
32:08what's
32:08happening
32:09to
32:09Binalio
32:10it
32:11is
32:11a
32:11tragedy
32:12but
32:13this
32:13is
32:14also
32:14an
32:14opportunity
32:15for
32:15us
32:16to
32:16finally
32:16look
32:18at
32:18this
32:18and
32:19really
32:20find
32:21a
32:21more
32:21sustainable
32:22solution
32:23but
32:23given
32:24the
32:24pattern
32:24that
32:25we
32:25are
32:25seeing
32:25do
32:26you
32:26think
32:26Cebu
32:27city
32:27government
32:28in
32:28general
32:29do
32:29you
32:29think
32:30Cebu
32:30city
32:30government
32:31in
32:31general
32:31is
32:32prepared
32:33to
32:33say
32:33no
32:34to
32:35convenient
32:36choices
32:37or
32:37for
32:38political
32:39choices
32:39in
32:40favor
32:41of
32:41environmental
32:42choices
32:45well
32:48well
32:48I'm
32:49just
32:49being
32:49consistent
32:49no
32:51I'm
32:52not
32:52I
32:52don't
32:53refer
32:53myself
32:54as
32:54an
32:54environmentalist
32:55no
32:56but
32:57I
32:57know
32:57what
32:57is
32:57good
32:58and
32:58bad
32:58no
33:01land
33:02filling
33:03which
33:03is
33:04in
33:04reality
33:04is
33:05open
33:05dam
33:05site
33:08in
33:08Europe
33:09wala
33:09naman
33:09gamay
33:10na
33:10lang
33:11mga
33:12residue
33:12na
33:12lang
33:12waste
33:13to
33:14energy
33:14facility
33:15the
33:15same
33:16manner
33:16said
33:16sa
33:16Japan
33:17no
33:17so
33:18para
33:19nago
33:21may
33:22buong
33:22pugo
33:23sa
33:24atong
33:24mayor
33:25when
33:26he
33:26stick
33:26it
33:26out
33:27with
33:29landfill
33:30or
33:30when
33:30he
33:31stick
33:31it
33:31out
33:31with
33:32dam
33:32site
33:32do
33:33haram
33:33atong
33:33choices
33:33para
33:35nago
33:37it's
33:38either
33:38we
33:39have
33:39a
33:39sustainable
33:40technology
33:40like
33:41waste
33:41to
33:41energy
33:41facility
33:42or
33:43go
33:44to
33:44landfill
33:45or
33:45dam
33:45site
33:46no
33:46and
33:47then
33:47it
33:48doesn't
33:48mean
33:48we
33:49will
33:50not
33:50go
33:50with
33:50a
33:50zero
33:51waste
33:53like
33:57yes
33:58that's
33:59ideally
33:59you
34:00know
34:00what
34:00in
34:01Yokohama
34:02for
34:02one
34:02they
34:03were
34:03able
34:03to
34:04reduce
34:04their
34:04waste
34:0630%
34:07in
34:08eight
34:09years
34:09in
34:10eight
34:10years
34:11and
34:11to
34:11think
34:11Japanese
34:12people
34:12are
34:13very
34:14disciplined
34:15no
34:16okay
34:17when
34:17the
34:17mayor
34:17made
34:18any
34:18forecast
34:19like
34:19in
34:20six
34:21months
34:21I've
34:21heard
34:21that
34:21I
34:21think
34:22it
34:22was
34:22in
34:22your
34:23program
34:24also
34:24when
34:24he
34:24said
34:24that
34:24in
34:25six
34:25months
34:25we
34:25can
34:25reduce
34:26it
34:26by
34:26half
34:27my
34:28God
34:29Japan
34:30for
34:30one
34:30as a
34:31whole
34:31for
34:32the
34:32last
34:3225
34:33years
34:33it took
34:34them
34:34to
34:35reduce
34:35their
34:35garbage
34:36by
34:3645%
34:45you
34:46can
34:46do
34:47this
34:47but
34:48somehow
34:49ideally
34:49speaking
34:50yes
34:50that's
34:51the
34:51right
34:51thing
34:51to
34:51do
34:51but
34:52you
34:52have
34:52to
34:52be
34:52realistic
34:53if
34:54if we
34:54can
34:54save
34:55let's
34:55say
34:5520%
34:5610%
34:5815%
34:59of our
34:59total
34:59now
35:00what
35:00are we
35:00gonna
35:00do
35:01with
35:01the
35:01other
35:0185%
35:02more
35:03na
35:03akong
35:03di
35:03emphasize
35:04as it
35:05is
35:05right
35:06now
35:17so
35:21coming up
35:22with a waste
35:22of energy
35:23it will
35:23take
35:23time
35:25but we
35:26have to
35:26plan
35:26now
35:27we have
35:27to
35:28plan
35:28now
35:28because
35:30as it
35:31is
35:31we'll
35:31only be
35:32dealing
35:32every
35:33now
35:33and
35:33then
35:33every
35:34day
35:34for
35:34the
35:34next
35:342
35:353
35:35years
35:35of
35:35temporary
35:36solution
35:38and
35:40I'm
35:40down
35:40to
35:40my
35:41last
35:41two
35:41questions
35:42and
35:42this
35:43second
35:43to
35:43the
35:44last
35:44question
35:44that
35:44I
35:45have
35:45it
35:45is
35:46not
35:46in
35:46the
35:47context
35:47of
35:48doom
35:49but
35:50it's
35:50in
35:50the
35:50context
35:51of
35:51whether
35:52the
35:52situation
35:53is
35:53really
35:53urgent
35:54and
35:56I've
35:56read
35:57somewhere
35:57and
35:57I've
35:57learned
35:58this
35:58when
35:58I
35:58was
35:58still
35:59very
35:59young
35:59that
36:00if
36:00we
36:00continue
36:00to
36:01do
36:01what
36:01we
36:01are
36:02doing
36:02we
36:03will
36:03continue
36:03to
36:04get
36:04what
36:04we
36:04are
36:05getting
36:05so
36:06in
36:06that
36:06line
36:07if
36:07we
36:08will
36:08continue
36:08to
36:09do
36:09what
36:09we
36:10are
36:10doing
36:10today
36:11the
36:11way
36:12we
36:12manage
36:12waste
36:13what
36:13do
36:14you
36:14fear
36:14will
36:15happen
36:17if
36:18if
36:18continue
36:18to
36:19do
36:19what
36:19we
36:19are
36:19doing
36:19so
36:20don't
36:20expect
36:21a
36:21different
36:21result
36:22it
36:23will
36:23be
36:23the
36:23same
36:23result
36:24but
36:24to
36:25me
36:26in
36:29every
36:30tragedy
36:31is an
36:31opportunity
36:32it's
36:33an
36:33opportunity
36:33like
36:34what
36:35we're
36:35doing
36:35right
36:35now
36:35we
36:37have to
36:39do
36:39our
36:39part
36:39we
36:40have
36:40to
36:40do
36:40our
36:40part
36:41because
36:41this
36:42is
36:42not
36:42a
36:42one
36:42way
36:42traffic
36:43you
36:43cannot
36:44expect
36:45the
36:45government
36:45to do
36:46this
36:47all
36:47for
36:47you
36:47this
36:48is
36:49a
36:49collective
36:50effort
36:50this
36:51is
36:52a
36:52shared
36:54responsibility
36:55to
36:58move
37:01forward
37:02so
37:02it's
37:03an
37:03opportunity
37:05with
37:06very
37:08limited
37:08resources
37:09that
37:10infrastructure
37:11that
37:11is
37:12dilapidated
37:14pa
37:14that's
37:14why
37:14I
37:15need
37:15no
37:15in
37:16fact
37:17in
37:17my
37:17last
37:17resolution
37:18I
37:18passed
37:18a
37:18resolution
37:19urging
37:22strongly
37:23asking
37:24Cebu
37:25Chamber
37:25and
37:25other
37:25business
37:26organization
37:26that
37:27they have
37:27to
37:28they have
37:29to
37:29unboarden
37:30somehow
37:30when we
37:30talk about
37:31infrastructure
37:31because the
37:32government
37:33is not
37:33ready
37:33deal
37:34so
37:36hopefully
37:38no
37:38hopefully
37:39my
37:40address
37:41overnight
37:45this is a
37:48very
37:48delicate
37:49use
37:52hurting
37:53process
37:54because
37:55right now
37:56we have
37:58to
37:59we have
38:00to
38:00accept
38:00the fact
38:01that we
38:01will be
38:01seeing
38:02garbage
38:02everywhere
38:04that's
38:04that's why
38:05we have
38:05to do
38:07our
38:07individual
38:08tasks
38:08as a
38:10family
38:10and as
38:13so
38:15but then
38:16again
38:16when you talk
38:17about
38:17sustainable
38:19waste
38:20to
38:20energy
38:21facility
38:21and
38:22my
38:23final
38:24question
38:24for
38:25you
38:26constant
38:26salamat
38:27for your
38:28time
38:28and also
38:28your
38:28expertise
38:29today
38:29is
38:30because
38:30you
38:31mentioned
38:31also
38:32hope
38:32in your
38:33last
38:34answer
38:34what
38:36makes
38:36you
38:36believe
38:37Cebu
38:38City
38:38can
38:39still
38:39build
38:40a
38:40waste
38:41solution
38:41that
38:42is
38:42safe
38:43fair
38:44and
38:45sustainable
38:46bottle
38:48you
38:48know
38:48what
38:49I
38:50will
38:50never
38:51stop
38:51I've
38:51been
38:51doing
38:52this
38:52for
38:52the
38:52last
38:52eight
38:53nine
38:53years
38:53since
38:54we
38:54closed
38:55the
38:55landfill
38:57it
38:57was
38:57just
38:58so
38:58hurting
38:58on my
38:59end
39:00we
39:01closed
39:02a dump
39:02site
39:03in order
39:04to open
39:04another
39:05dump
39:05site
39:05look
39:05what
39:06happened
39:08that's
39:09very
39:09hurting
39:10and
39:10then
39:12of
39:13course
39:13it
39:13hurt
39:13me
39:15Cebu
39:16at
39:16that
39:16and
39:17we
39:17have
39:17a
39:17mayor
39:18who
39:18is
39:18very
39:19much
39:19against
39:19a
39:20technology
39:21that
39:22is
39:22very
39:22sustainable
39:23and
39:23it's
39:23the
39:24answer
39:25to
39:25our
39:27city
39:27when
39:28you
39:28talk
39:28about
39:28solid
39:28waste
39:29management
39:31but
39:31then
39:32again
39:32I'm
39:33very
39:34hopeful
39:34I'm
39:35very
39:35hopeful
39:35it
39:36might
39:36not
39:37be
39:37during
39:38my
39:38time
39:39well
39:40I
39:40have
39:40also
39:40a
39:41daughter
39:41who
39:41is
39:41also
39:41very
39:42passionate
39:42about
39:42it
39:43but
39:43at
39:43least
39:44if
39:44I'm
39:44no
39:44longer
39:44around
39:45I
39:45leave
39:45a
39:45map
39:46I
39:47leave
39:47a
39:47map
39:47for
39:48them
39:49perhaps
39:50to
39:50use
39:50in
39:51navigating
39:52our
39:53solid
39:53waste
39:54problem
39:56and
39:57thank you
39:58very much
39:59Councillor
39:59Joel
40:00for joining
40:01us
40:01today
40:01it's
40:02obvious
40:02that
40:02you
40:02are
40:03inside
40:03your
40:03car
40:04and
40:04I
40:05can
40:05tell
40:05that
40:05you
40:05don't
40:05need
40:06thank you
40:07for making
40:08time
40:08thank you
40:10DJ
40:13yes
40:13also
40:15cons
40:15so
40:16we've
40:16seen
40:17what
40:17happens
40:18when
40:18systems
40:19fail
40:19and
40:20when
40:21communities
40:21feel
40:22unheard
40:23the
40:23challenge
40:24before
40:24Cebu
40:25City
40:25is
40:25real
40:26but
40:27as
40:28what
40:28Councillor
40:29Garganera
40:29also
40:30said
40:30it
40:30is
40:31an
40:31opportunity
40:32to
40:33do
40:33better
40:33to
40:34be
40:34fairer
40:35and
40:35to
40:35finally
40:35build
40:36a
40:36system
40:36that
40:37does
40:37not
40:37ask
40:38a
40:38few
40:39to
40:39carry
40:40the
40:40burden
40:41of
40:42the
40:42many
40:42I'm
40:43DJ
40:44Moises
40:44and
40:44we
40:44will
40:45continue
40:45these
40:46conversations
40:46about
40:47Binalio
40:48and
40:48waste
40:48management
40:49until
40:50questions
40:50are
40:51answered
40:51accountability
40:52is
40:53clear
40:53and
40:54solutions
40:54move
40:55from
40:55plans
40:56to
40:57practice
40:57thank
40:58you
40:58for
40:59watching
40:59and
40:59see
41:00you
41:00again
41:00tomorrow
41:07all
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