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The future of SPACE CONQUEST
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00:00Oh, wait a minute, I'm going to speak into this mic. Yes, hello! That works. Welcome back. So, did you
00:06freshen up a bit? Yep. Got some water? Cold shower, maybe? Put some ice cubes down your backs? Nice. Actually,
00:15we're in the right place today, definitely. Lots of air conditioning. It's good.
00:20All right. Now, this segment is, for me, a very, very interesting one. And I think, as we say in
00:27French, ça fait rêver. We really get to discover science fiction becoming science fact.
00:34So, these guys have tech, which is to be used for space travel, but let's be honest, it will also
00:42have applications for here down on Earth.
00:44Here to explain more and better to us is Baba from Interstellar Labs.
01:02Okay, okay. Hi. Thank you so much for the very kind introduction. So, my name is Barbara. I'm the founder
01:09and CEO of Interstellar Lab, and I'm going to explain to you a little bit more about what we're doing
01:13here on Earth and how we're trying to bring our system to space as well.
01:18So, the company. The company is really the fundamental about what we're doing. We're here to help grow life anywhere.
01:27So, what I profoundly believe is that life is trying to expand. It's trying to expand out of our planet
01:33because it wants to survive.
01:35And we are humans, and as a company, we are a tool to help life expand anywhere.
01:41And our job as a company is really to provide the structure which is going to help humans and any
01:47form of life going off-planet, but also survive on our planet.
01:51There is no way, you know, we can become a multi-planetary species. Oops. Voilà.
01:56There is no way we can become a multi-planetary species, and we go out there if we are not
02:01able to protect what we have on Earth.
02:04And so, there is a fundamental link between what we need to protect on Earth and what we will need
02:10in space to survive.
02:11So, what we do at Interstellar Lab, we design and we build structure, deployable structure, so structure that can be
02:20put anywhere, whether it's on Earth or in space.
02:23And inside the structure, we create the perfect climatic condition for plants to grow.
02:27And we do, so it's controlled environment module, deployable module, and we do that on Earth for sustainable living, for
02:35indoor farming purposes, very advanced type of agriculture, and also in space.
02:42So, to expand life in space so we can become a multi-planetary species.
02:46What we, our roadmap, and how are we going to get there?
02:51So, first, we start with Earth. So, 2022, this is this year. We've been working on the biopod for over
02:58four years, and we are building our first full-scale dome and unveiling them in a couple of months.
03:05In our booth, H2028, if you want to come visit us, we have a 3D model of our biopod in
03:13our system.
03:14So, Earth is 2022. So, this year, we're building five biopods. We have 70 demands, so we're moving into production.
03:22For 2025, what we're preparing is a system for low Earth orbit. We have two contracts with NASA, and one
03:28is about a system to be put in the space station that is allowing us to grow plants in there.
03:33The second target, the third target, sorry, is the Moon for 2027.
03:38I'm going to explain a little bit more what we do with NASA regarding the lunarization of our pods.
03:44And, of course, 2030, we want to go to Mars, and we are part of a NASA program in collaboration
03:50with SpaceX to be able to put our greenhouse on Mars.
03:54The biopod. Biopod is the first product we're doing for terrestrial application.
03:58It's a very super advanced indoor farm, fully automated, that recreates any type of climate inside a completely sealed bubble.
04:08So, think of it as a cocoon inside which you recreate, let's say, a climate like one in Madagascar, and
04:14you can grow any plants.
04:15And because we provide, of course, the watering solution, all the air solution, all the nutrient solution, and the support
04:23for the plant to grow.
04:24So, it's designed so as an inflatable structure, 11 meter long, 6 meter wide, 5 meter high.
04:32It reduces water consumption on Earth because it's a sealed bubble.
04:36So, we just reuse the water that goes through the plant and evapotranspirate and put that back into the system.
04:42We capture CO2, we take CO2 from the outside atmosphere to boost the level of CO2 inside the biopod, so
04:50we can increase the atmospheric conditions, so we can increase the volume of CO2 we have inside.
04:55We push it to 3,000 ppm, and so that accelerates, actually, the photosynthesis of the plants, so we can
05:03recreate really this good environment for the plants to grow.
05:05It reduces energy need by being a sealed bubble with very good insulation.
05:10We use less power for the AC and for the cooling and the heating system.
05:15And also, the membrane is partially transparent, which is allowing us to get light from the sun instead of using
05:22only artificial light.
05:24If you think about space and how we're going to use that in space, of course, there is no CO2
05:29on the moon, so we're not going to capture CO2 on the lunar atmosphere.
05:33But there is CO2 that has been exhaled by humans, and so we take the CO2 exhaled by humans, we
05:40put it in a pod to nourish the plants.
05:43Plants produce O2, oxygen, that breathes humans, so it goes back to the human section with oxygen, and meanwhile, we've
05:50been producing plants.
05:52So, one of the most important things about the technology we're developing is not only the hardware, it's really about
05:59the software and the catalog of species.
06:01It's great to have a good hardware and beautifully designed, this is very important, this is what we do.
06:05But if you don't have the operating system, which knows how to grow the plants, your hardware is useless.
06:11It's like a Tesla cow without its software, you know, it's like a phone without an iOS.
06:16So, we've been focusing on building the largest catalog of species, so we know how to grow it inside the
06:22biopods.
06:22So, you can picture, you know, not that far from now, when we'll be on the moon, and basically, you
06:29can grow any type,
06:31and you can recreate, pretty much, the Earth on other planets.
06:34It's very important, and it's very useful, very useful on Earth for our customers.
06:39Our customers on Earth, they do, you know, pharmaceutical, cosmetic, and perfume, food production, they're interested in growing plants,
06:46but they are also our partners for space exploration, because some of the plants that we've been growing,
06:53they are known to, when they're sent in microgravity, and in an environment with solar radiation,
07:02they produce more of specific molecules, and that's used in the pharmaceutical industry.
07:07For instance, one of the first flowers that we're going to send to space is called the Madagascar Pairwinkle.
07:14It's a flower that is used in the pharmaceutical industry to fight against cancer.
07:18We send them, we are sending it, probably with a SpaceX mission, at the end of this year, or early
07:25next year,
07:26to look at how microgravity is triggering the production of the two alkyloids that are used to fight against cancer.
07:32So, this is a solution that has proven how space can actually help us on Earth find, you know, better
07:38systems to grow plants.
07:40The product that we won the first NASA contract, it's part of the competition called the Deep Space Food Challenge.
07:46It's called Nucleus, it's very similar to BioPod, it's just a combination of nine different systems, plugged into two together.
07:54Inside this one, we can grow mushrooms, leafy greens, mushroom microgreens, and we're working on insects as well,
08:02so this is our first one where we are including biological life, other form than vegetale.
08:10The second system that we've been working on, it's confidential, so we work with a lot of different companies developing
08:18space station.
08:20It's to put a space garden in lowest orbit, so we are taking care, not of the design of the
08:25capsule, but taking care of what's happening inside,
08:27so recreating the condition in space so we can grow plants.
08:31And as I said, the first application is mostly in pharmaceutical, because in microgravity, the plants are triggering the creation
08:39of specific molecules that are used in pharma.
08:43So we're working towards putting our first system in Leo by 2025, so that's coming very soon.
08:49And of course, building a greenhouse on the moon.
08:52So how do we do that?
08:54And so we have the BioPod that we're turning into a LunarPod.
08:58So how do you turn the BioPod into a LunarPod?
09:00We have a partnership with NASA, a five-year partnership between now and 2027, where we're going to focus on
09:08the different technology inside the BioPod and make them lunar, habitable, functioning under lunar condition.
09:16The first one is going to be, the first approach is going to be on the material we're using for
09:21the dome, for the inflatable structure.
09:23Right now on Earth, it's a two-layer ETFE.
09:26We're going to add more layers of the material and adding different layers of aerogel and probably water to create
09:34protection, again, the solar radiation.
09:38The second part that we're working on is the water system.
09:41The watering system is very different when you're on Earth and in space because the gravity is different, so water
09:48behaves differently.
09:49So that's the thing that we're going to change, also, the difference between the BioPod and LunarPod.
09:55And some more, again, on the growing system and the air system, because air is very different on the moon.
10:02But yeah, so it's a great program.
10:03We have five years.
10:04We're super excited.
10:05We're going to put the BioPod on the sustainable moon maze as part of the Artemis program.
10:09So it's a very big deal.
10:12Voilà.
10:12Those are our partners.
10:15We are interstellar and looking to become a multi-planetary species.
10:19Thank you so much.
10:21Thank you, Barbara.
10:21That's a great presentation.
10:22It's such a shame because I don't have any time to ask you questions.
10:24I did want to ask you one question, though, because I'm very inspired by the tech, and there's a lot
10:29in there, right?
10:30But when it comes to the farming application, particularly when I think on Earth, I mean, space is one thing,
10:35right?
10:36But for the more arid parts of the world, could this be adapted to a much bigger scale to farm
10:43locally?
10:44Of course.
10:45That's why we choose inflatable.
10:46So the first size of the BioPod, 55 square meter, it's a great entry product.
10:53It's cheap.
10:54It's 250K.
10:55Like, it's not very expensive for very climatic greenhouses.
10:58The second one is the size of a tennis court.
11:00Right.
11:01Okay.
11:01That make a difference.
11:02Okay.
11:02Thank you very much.
11:03Of course.
11:04Barbara from Interstellar.
11:07Ladies and gentlemen, thanks again.
11:12Okay.
11:13Well, we're going to stay in space.
11:17I'm looking for an astronaut, actually.
11:23Smart, yes.
11:24Smart tire.
11:26Do we have smart tire?
11:30They're ready?
11:32Okay.
11:34Oh, here they are.
11:35Okay.
11:35So these guys hail from the United States.
11:38They have some great tech.
11:41Again, adapted for space, for space vehicles, and in particular, the wheels.
11:47And so it's a tire technology, which will have also earthly applications.
11:52Here to tell you more are the guys from Smart Tire.
11:55Take it away.
12:02Ding, ding.
12:13All right.
12:14Hello, everyone.
12:15You may recognize my friend from around the conference here.
12:19My name is Brian Yenny.
12:20I'm CTO and co-founder of Smart Tire Company.
12:24It's my co-founder, Earl.
12:26He's not a real astronaut, but he sure looks like one today.
12:31So as a good friend mentioned here, our background is working with a NASA technology.
12:37It was originally invented for Mars rover missions.
12:42And so they have some pretty extreme requirements for these missions.
12:47They've been working with this tire technology for about 12 years now.
12:51So they use a really amazing material.
12:54It's called a shape memory alloy.
12:56And what we're doing at the Smart Tire Company is bringing some of that space technology back down to Earth.
13:02So we got a lot of cyclists here.
13:05I know I've talked to a lot of you about your woes with flat tires.
13:09So this is a completely airless tire based on the technology.
13:13It's got a nice little...
13:14I'm going to try to do this with a mic here, but it's got a...
13:16Well, not too hard of a floor, but it's got a nice bounce to it, I swear.
13:21So it's completely airless technology.
13:22If any of you have dealt with an airless tire before,
13:27you probably had high hopes that you were going to never have flats and enjoy yourself.
13:32Unfortunately, most of the products on the market, they'll get you over that hump.
13:36You won't have a flat tire, but you'll have a heavy tire.
13:40You'll have a very, very tiring tire on your bike.
13:44And you'll be kind of riding around the road doing this over the cobblestones.
13:49So what we're bringing to market next year is an airless tire,
13:54which will be the first ever airless tire that gives you that nice, smooth ride.
14:02Nice, smooth ride.
14:03Very safe.
14:04You're never going to have a flat.
14:06You're never going to have a lower pressure.
14:08And so we're going to be rolling this out for bicycles
14:11and also my little sample here for your scooter applications.
14:16So the insides of these tires are made from the same material,
14:21like I said, is on the Mars Rovers.
14:24Really incredible material.
14:26I won't bore you too much with the science behind this,
14:28but you have to think of it as sort of an elastic metal.
14:32So you get the strength of titanium,
14:35but you have this elasticity and this smooth ride in a tire.
14:41So a ton of potential applications.
14:45If you go by our booth over there,
14:46you'll see a real big lunar tire that's actually for a manned moon mission in 2025 with NASA.
14:54But we want to put this into consumer hands
14:56and get people to really see what's possible.
14:59You know, the tire industry is really a hundred-year-old industry
15:03based on pneumatic tires and pressurized air.
15:06Everybody here drives a car, rides a bike,
15:09and is used to that technology.
15:11They're pretty good with rubber and air,
15:14but we feel it's time to actually disrupt the tire industry with something new.
15:24I guess we're going to do a test ride here.
15:32So some of the other benefits of this technology,
15:35we think it's a pretty big deal to have a nice, smooth ride,
15:38never get any more flats.
15:39But it also has a nice eco-friendly aspect to this.
15:44If you'll see this little scooter tire,
15:46I got a rubber tread on this.
15:49These tires are going to last just about forever.
15:51When you finish running through this tread,
15:53enjoying your nice new space tire,
15:56we're just going to do retreads on all of our bikes, scooters,
16:00eventually automotive and other applications.
16:02So what that means is we're not throwing tire after tire after tire into the waste bin.
16:08So it's going to save quite a lot of rubber waste.
16:11We use a lot less to begin with,
16:14but the big thing is that we're not going to have disposable tires anymore.
16:18It's a very, very dirty industry.
16:20The industry produces about 50 billion pounds of waste every year
16:26from tires being landfilled,
16:28most of which end up in a landfill or in a giant tire fire, unfortunately.
16:34So some great eco-friendly benefits there.
16:40Another one you may have heard of on that note is tire wear is becoming a major, major problem,
16:46especially with new electric vehicles, which are a heavier vehicle.
16:50We're leaving microplastics all over our roadways worldwide.
16:56I believe the staff that I saw for ocean microplastics,
17:00you may have seen the great plastic, forget the term,
17:06but the giant plastic dumps in our oceans.
17:09about 28% of that plastic in our oceans
17:12actually comes directly from tire wear on our roads.
17:15So solving both of those problems
17:18will be really a boon for a very, very dirty industry,
17:22but we also get to enjoy these nice, safe, flat, free rides.
17:33Thank you.
17:34Thank you.
17:41Don't go anywhere.
17:42Don't run away.
17:43Just picking up my props.
17:44I'm here.
17:45Okay.
17:46Do you want to open that helmet for us?
17:48I'm worried about your, like,
17:50man behind the mask.
17:51Your health.
17:52Okay.
17:53All right, good.
17:55Anyone have any questions for these guys?
17:59About the tech?
18:00About the applications?
18:02Yeah.
18:04Let me give you this mic.
18:08When can we order the tires?
18:12Next year for the bicycle tire.
18:14Well, and the scooter tire as well.
18:15So we'll be going to market around Q2 next year.
18:20Okay.
18:20I had a question from someone earlier.
18:22They were curious to know that, like,
18:24you said in the presentation,
18:26or was it yesterday,
18:27that it cost, like,
18:28100 pounds to change a tire.
18:30Is that correct?
18:32Yeah.
18:32So this tire here would be about
18:33a $100, 100-pound tire.
18:37Okay.
18:38But, you know,
18:39this is going to last the life of your vehicle.
18:40So the only part you're going to change,
18:43you got a tire like this.
18:44This is the bare version here.
18:46Okay.
18:47You got this rubber tread.
18:48That's a very cheap, cheap component.
18:51Okay.
18:51So you're going to use this year after year.
18:54You ride enough to go all the way through this tread,
18:57you know,
18:57put a few thousand miles on it.
18:58You're just going to peel it right off
19:00and put on a new tread.
19:01So that would be very inexpensive.
19:03Okay.
19:03And so basically,
19:04if you can fabricate the same technology for cars,
19:09then it's jackpot, right?
19:10That's right.
19:11Okay.
19:11Let's be honest.
19:12So automotive, trucking, aerospace
19:14will be very big,
19:15but we think it's going to be
19:16a pretty cool product near term.
19:18Okay.
19:18We have another question here
19:19from this gentleman here.
19:22Hello.
19:23I ride a lot, a bike,
19:25so I'm interested,
19:26but can you set the inflate?
19:28Because I see it's very,
19:30very heavy.
19:32Yeah.
19:32So we've gotten pretty good at that.
19:33This is about 100 PSI tire right here
19:36or equivalent.
19:38So part of what we can do with the technology
19:40is simulate the feel of,
19:42you know,
19:43any kind of PSI equivalent.
19:45so I can make a 30 PSI tire,
19:48100 PSI tire,
19:49depending on what you're doing,
19:50if you're on a road bike
19:51or a mountain bike.
19:53Yeah.
19:55All right.
19:56We've got more time yet.
19:57We've got a question over here.
19:58Great.
20:01Did I understand correctly
20:02that you still need to have rubber
20:04around the tire?
20:06So you have no air,
20:07but you're still using rubber, right?
20:09That's correct.
20:10So we're using rubber only
20:11for the tread element.
20:13So it's quite a bit less rubber,
20:15but the tread itself is a rubber tread.
20:17So I'm trying to understand
20:18because you were talking about the fact
20:19that there is less microplastic
20:22because of the road erosion,
20:25but is that still a fact
20:26if you're still using rubber?
20:27So the reason we would have less tread wear
20:29is that this is going to run
20:31with a flatter footprint,
20:32so you're going to have less ground pressure,
20:34less friction.
20:36So same as using less rubber
20:38on the input and on the waste,
20:40the problem will still exist.
20:41We haven't reinvented rubber,
20:43but it will have a significant difference,
20:45especially on an electric vehicle.
20:48They're seeing a lot of problems
20:48with the tread wear.
20:50Is that a cycling helmet I see?
20:52Yes?
20:53I think we've got an expert over here.
20:55We meet a lot of cyclists.
20:57Okay, good question.
20:59All right, we've got 10 seconds left,
21:00so I guess we better leave it here.
21:02Thanks, everyone.
21:03Thank you, Smart Tire Company.
21:05Thank you.
21:07If you want to find out more,
21:10you can find these guys over here,
21:11I believe, straight ahead.
21:12Right behind you, yeah.
21:13Man in a spacesuit.
21:14Very easy to find.
21:17Don't ride off the edge.
21:20Okay.
21:20Very easy to find out.
21:21Thanks.
21:21Thank you.
21:21Thank you.
21:21Thank you.
21:22Good morning.
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