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00:00They are the most famous serial killers in the world.
00:05It was the highest number of deaths attributed to the only serial killer in American history.
00:10The problem was that American boys were killing American girls.
00:14But what drove them to commit their heinous crimes?
00:17The victims had been opened up and their organs removed.
00:23Was it nature?
00:24Her father was a sexual abuser.
00:27He was the most insane man I've ever known.
00:30Or it was something that was cultivated.
00:32The father then broke the mother's fingers one by one in front of the children.
00:57Charles Starkweather, a teenage assassin who looks like James Dean.
01:11He was a tough and very dangerous guy.
01:15A rebel without a cause who spread terror in his community.
01:19Everyone who had a weapon made sure to load it.
01:24The National Guard patrolled Lincoln, hoping he would show up somewhere.
01:29Accompanied by his 14-year-old girlfriend Karen Fogate, he set off on a trip through the United States in the 1950s.
01:38leaving a trail of dead bodies in its wake.
01:41Men, women, and children.
01:43The murders were horribly brutal.
01:47It wasn't a case of, "I'm going to shoot you and that's it."
01:52They opened the door to the storm shelter.
01:55I looked and saw those children.
01:57I close my eyes and I can still see them.
02:00But were these young killers products of their environment?
02:03Were they born to kill?
02:05It was a small town at that time.
02:34There were still cornfields in the center, behind the houses.
02:40It was very peaceful.
02:42People were expecting something to happen.
02:45There was this feeling that you would never leave the city.
02:53Lincoln, in the mid-1950s, was a well-policed, very calm city with no serious crime.
03:02People left their doors unlocked, unlike in many big cities.
03:07Even back then.
03:15It was in this agricultural society, devoted to God and obedient to the laws, that the red-haired Charles Stickweather was born in 1938.
03:24The third of seven boys and one girl.
03:27It's not a politically correct term, but I would call them white scum.
03:33They certainly weren't pillars of society.
03:36Mrs. Stickweather, his mother, was a very good and hardworking woman who supported her family.
03:48Gun Starkweather worked occasionally, but I think she was the one who supported the family.
03:55They had many children, and as far as I know, none of them got into any trouble.
04:00Yes, working class, that's the best way to describe them.
04:06Charles Stickweather would remember his childhood as idyllic.
04:11He played cowboys with his brothers, went fishing with his father, and helped his mother in the kitchen.
04:18The family was poor, but not destitute.
04:22They ate and had clothes.
04:24There was nothing to indicate that his childhood was out of the ordinary, until he started going to school.
04:35He underwent a major change on his first day at school.
04:43He was terribly provoked.
04:47He had bowed legs and was considered a slow student, an imbecile.
04:51So, school was terribly traumatic and may have triggered a major change in his life.
05:05He used to be a docile, non-violent boy.
05:09But even as a child, he began to turn into a bully who started beating up boys even bigger than him.
05:18And I confronted them as an equal when they interfered on my behalf.
05:24Dennis Carnop, now a lawyer, was the son of the Lincoln sheriff.
05:30He remembers young Starkweather well.
05:34He lived right across the street from my house.
05:37They lived in a building across from the police station where we also lived.
05:42The family was very rude.
05:45Very rude.
05:48Charlie Starkweather was a physical education assistant.
05:59He was a tough guy.
06:02Dangerous.
06:05I mean, he seemed dangerous.
06:07And you knew who he was.
06:08And everyone stayed...
06:11Do you understand what I'm saying?
06:13Constantly afraid.
06:14What could I do?
06:16Say something?
06:17Do something?
06:18He could attack me as soon as class ended.
06:21And when I say that, I'm not saying that I was the chosen one.
06:25That's simply how I, and everyone else, felt about him.
06:28It was a relief when we could finally leave.
06:36Many adopt the persona of the bad boy as a way of establishing a role for themselves.
06:44In the family and also in the community.
06:48But Starkweather took it to a whole different level.
06:53He also displayed a characteristic of many serial killers: the ability to impersonate someone they think they should be.
07:04And in his case, it was James Dean.
07:06That era was the best thing for young people.
07:12I remember that James Dean had a great influence on Rebel Without a Cause.
07:18I think the young people had a lot of pent-up anger.
07:22It was a feeling that there was nowhere to go.
07:24That you couldn't do anything.
07:26And there was no way to escape.
07:28When he left school, Starkweather got a job as a garbage collector.
07:38That's when he met 13-year-old Carol Ann Fugate.
07:42Bob Howe attended the same school as her.
07:45Everyone knew who she was.
07:47There was a series ahead of me.
07:50She was a very...
07:53Very normal.
07:57I liked boys.
07:58I think what I didn't like very much was school.
08:03I know she told the art teacher, Mrs. Ralston.
08:10One day, when you punish me, you old witch, I will kill you.
08:15But I think that wasn't so uncommon.
08:17Not that the students always did that.
08:20But there was a lot of underlying tension at that time.
08:25So it could have been anyone.
08:27It wasn't something specific to Carol.
08:32To the disappointment of Carol's family, she and Charles became inseparable.
08:37She was the first girl who really paid attention to him.
08:43Because Carol was 13 years old when they met.
08:47He was 18 years old.
08:48And as happens with many girls even today, she was very impressed that an older man was paying attention to her.
08:55And he was over the moon because that attractive girl was paying attention to him.
09:00By all accounts, she was attracted to his bad boy image.
09:05We know that many women like bad boys because they like being with someone who lives life on the edge.
09:15Because they find it exciting.
09:16If you live in a place where nothing happens, someone comes along and says...
09:22Let me show you the world in a way you never dreamed of.
09:25Of course, if you don't yet have a formed identity, you're going to say...
09:31Why not?
09:32But the few thrills that Lincoln offered in the 1950s weren't enough for Charles Stankwader.
09:42He had ambitions.
09:44His family was very poor.
09:46And when he started working as a garbage collector and got to know neighborhoods outside of where he had grown up...
09:54To those who lived there and were middle or upper-middle class, he seemed like a millionaire.
09:58He knew he would never achieve that.
10:03So what to do?
10:04Becoming an outlaw?
10:06Former Crest gas station and convenience store.
10:10In late November 1957, Stankwader visited the Crest gas station and convenience store.
10:17Near Carrell's house, hoping to buy her a Christmas present.
10:22The young clerk, Robert Colbert, was new to the job.
10:25Charlie wanted to buy a toy for Carrell, but he didn't have any money and asked...
10:33Can I pick it up and pay later?
10:35But the man wouldn't let him and...
10:38He became very angry.
10:39In the early hours of December 1, 1957, Charles Stankwader began surveying the gas station.
10:53After visiting the store twice under the pretext of buying cigarettes and chewing gum, he stopped on the road, covered his face with a handkerchief, and held up the only clerk with a shotgun.
11:03It was Robert Colbert, married, 21 years old, and his young wife, who was pregnant, was at home.
11:12He wanted to take all the money that was in the safe, but they couldn't open it, and he had to settle for the $100 that was in the cash register.
11:25Charles Stankwader forced the safe into his car and made him sit in the driver's seat.
11:36He led gas station attendant Robert Colbert to a dirt road.
11:43He shot him in the head with a shotgun.
11:49He blew his brains out.
11:51Many people commit murder and then stop.
11:57Crime as a result of a moment of anger or revenge, or due to specific circumstances at a particular moment in a person's life.
12:07But essentially, the vast majority of murderers stop after committing their first murder.
12:13But there are few people like that, and Charles Stankwader is one of them.
12:18who, instead of being disturbed, find the experience fascinating.
12:24They find the experience sensual.
12:27They discover that this gives them power and control over other people.
12:31A power and control that they feel has been denied to them in other aspects of their lives.
12:37Charles Stankwader killed for the first time.
12:41It wouldn't be the last.
12:42December 1957.
12:50Charles Stankwader robbed the Crest gas station in Lincoln, Nebraska.
12:55Then he took the attendant Robert Colbert to a deserted road and executed him.
13:02He shot him in the head with a shotgun.
13:06He blew his brains out.
13:07Charles Stankwader threw the murder weapon into the river and altered the appearance of his car to avoid identification.
13:15While the police searched in vain for the mysterious killer.
13:22Reporter Bill Harding followed the case closely.
13:26They never suspected Charlie or questioned him.
13:28Some people passed the lie detector test, others were questioned, but for some reason he wasn't heard.
13:37I don't know how he escaped, but he escaped.
13:40For almost two months, Charles Stankwader had no problems.
13:45He enjoyed the $100 from the robbery with his girlfriend Carol Fugate, who was 14 years old at the time.
13:49But then, he attacked again.
13:56And after that, the gas station robbery seemed like child's play.
14:05I was in my second year of high school when my mother picked me up after basketball practice.
14:10He said that three people had been killed and they thought it was Charlie.
14:15On January 21, 1958, Charles Stankwader entered Carol Fugate's house.
14:37where she lived with her mother, Velda Barlett, her stepfather Marion Barlett, and her two-year-old half-sister, Betty Jean.
14:45After an argument, Charles Stankwader shot Marion Bartlett in the head.
15:01After he killed Mr. Bartlett, Mrs. Bartlett started screaming, the little sister started screaming.
15:08And that's when he killed them.
15:11Carol's mother, Velda, was shot in the face.
15:17Her half-sister, Betty Jean, was stabbed in the neck and beaten with the butt of a rifle.
15:24Her stepfather, Marion, was shot in the head and stabbed multiple times in the neck.
15:29I think he started an argument with Mr. Bartlett because of Carol, and I think it escalated.
15:37But it's not like he went in there with a premeditated idea, "I'm going to finish them off."
15:42Velda Barlett's body was wrapped in a blanket, taken to the outside bathroom, and pushed into the toilet bowl hole.
15:55The body of two-year-old Betty Jean was placed in a cardboard box and left on the toilet seat.
16:00And Marion Bartlett was thrown into the chicken coop.
16:06Mr. and Mrs. Bartlett and Betty Jean, their two-and-a-half-year-old half-sister, were killed on January 21, 1958.
16:16Carol and Charlie stayed in the house until January 27th.
16:23For six days, Charles and Carol lived in the house as husband and wife.
16:31While the bodies of her family were just a few meters away.
16:36The bodies meant nothing to them.
16:39The bodies were as significant as the chair, the sofa, the table, or the chandelier.
16:44They had no emotional significance.
16:46To us, being surrounded by corpses is a terrible thought.
16:50But for the serial killer, they are merely objects.
16:58Carol later stated that she was not home when the murders occurred.
17:03And Stark Weatherly said that his family was being held hostage elsewhere.
17:08However, Charles stated that Carol played an active role.
17:12Especially the beating of her half-sister.
17:14In the case of some serial killers, the killer begins to act according to what biopsychology calls an induced psychiatric disorder, or a frenzy of...
17:28Literally, a crazy experience lived by two.
17:30What this does is immediately create a loyalty between the two protagonists.
17:37Through which one normalizes the behavior of the other.
17:44Their worldview becomes something permissible and acceptable to them.
17:49And the worldview of everyone else becomes something that must be destroyed.
17:57During the week they spent at Carol's house, visitors were kept away by her with the excuse that the family was sick.
18:07Was Carol a prisoner or an accomplice of Starkweather?
18:15I find it very difficult to believe that Carol didn't know what was going on and that he wasn't her partner in crime.
18:25I don't think she was being held hostage.
18:27If she were truly a prisoner, there should be a way, if she had any brains, to escape.
18:37It was her city, she knew the people, she knew how to escape.
18:44Was it Carol who precipitated the murders?
18:48I think that's something people haven't considered.
18:50She may have been the driving force behind her family's murder, because she was estranged from them because of Charlie.
19:04After not being received for six consecutive days, friends and relatives began to suspect something was amiss.
19:09One of the relatives, perhaps her grandmother, went to the house, couldn't get in, and said she was going to call the police because she wanted to enter that house.
19:22And I think they thought, oops, the police might come this time and cause trouble.
19:28So, we'd better get out of here.
19:34Charles and Carol grabbed some clothes, got into his car, and left town.
19:39The bodies were discovered on a Monday night, and the murders were reported on the 10 pm news that same evening.
19:50Three murders were something out of this world in Lincoln, Nebraska, at that time.
19:55Her mother and her three-year-old half-sister, I mean, that was very shocking.
20:06The people of Lincoln were horrified.
20:09But no one imagined that the triple murder was just the beginning.
20:15Bennett, Nebraska, 30 kilometers from Lincoln.
20:18All serial killers are on a journey of discovery.
20:23And this journey is not just a journey through time and space,
20:27but also a journey to discover the kind of people they want to be.
20:33On January 27, 1958, Charles and Carol arrived at the farm of 70-year-old bachelor August Meyer.
20:46A place that Starko Ader knew well.
20:52He and his father had hunted with Mr. Meyer for several years.
20:57You know, they were friends and all that.
20:59As he approached the property, Charles' car got stuck in the muddy road.
21:06Cold and angry, he and Carol continued on foot to the farm.
21:10He said that Mr. Meyer showed up at the door with a gun, but I frankly doubt it.
21:22Charlie killed him with a shotgun.
21:26He was a family friend, and he killed him.
21:31Meyer was shot in the back of the head, almost point-blank.
21:35He dragged the body to a shed behind the house.
21:42And then he and Carol went inside the house.
21:48Charles Tancu Ader searched the house for money, clothes, and weapons.
21:52And he ate biscuits and jelly, while August Meyer's body lay in the shed next door.
21:57Once they've created this parallel world, they relate to each other simply thinking that the type of behavior they've adopted is normal.
22:11Since they inhabit this world, it is much easier for them to continue behaving according to the norms of this world.
22:21Which revolves around Charles Starkweather and Carol Fugate.
22:27And it's much easier for them, after they've killed once, twice, three times, to keep killing until someone stops them.
22:39As night fell, Charles and Carol began to feel restless.
22:43That night, they decided to leave, and Charles's car was stuck in the dirt road leading to the farm.
22:54So they went on foot, they started walking along the county road, until two teenagers, 17-year-old Bob Jensen and his 16-year-old girlfriend Carol King,
23:09Like the good Samaritans they were, they stopped and offered a ride.
23:14What would happen next would deeply shake the community.
23:17The young killer Charles Starkweather has already claimed five victims.
23:30A gas station attendant,
23:33the mother,
23:35the stepfather,
23:36and his 14-year-old girlfriend's half-sister,
23:39Carrie Fugate,
23:40and the 70-year-old farmer,
23:42August Meyer.
23:43After leaving Meyer's body in a shed,
23:55Charles and Carrie began to leave the farm on foot.
24:00Then, the young newlyweds Robert Jensen and Carol King offered them a ride.
24:08At gunpoint,
24:10The young people were forced to enter the storm shelter.
24:14where a school used to be.
24:18They were really typical young Americans.
24:22Everyone adored them.
24:23They were both truly excellent young men.
24:28The next day,
24:29August Meyer's body was found on his farm.
24:33Reporter Bill Harden was at the crime scene.
24:35when the fate of Robert Jensen and Carol King was discovered.
24:40Robert Jensen had been shot six times in the head.
25:03Carol King was partially naked.
25:12She had also been shot in the head.
25:15and his genitals had been stabbed.
25:17It was awful.
25:19It was already bad enough seeing August Meyer in the warehouse.
25:22He was shot with a shotgun.
25:24He was covered in blood.
25:26but somehow,
25:28It was much worse to see those teenagers.
25:31They were sixteen years old.
25:38They were stabbed.
25:39There was mutilation.
25:40There was sexual assault.
25:41It was a deal...
25:44Very frightening.
25:45Very frightening.
25:47Charles Starkweather later denied stabbing Carol King.
25:51Journalist Bill Harden was among the many who believed him.
25:58I am convinced that the mutilation was done by Carol Fulgate.
26:05It's not uncommon for a couple of serial killers to be involved.
26:09Men are the ones who initiate the first homicide.
26:12And he has tremendous power over his partner.
26:20She does not act against her will.
26:23She is not a victim of Stockholm syndrome.
26:25When a person is captured and must assume the identity of their captor in order to survive.
26:32That's not it at all.
26:33But they develop a kind of shared bond.
26:37In which she essentially does everything he tells her to do.
26:42And he participates in the crimes.
26:50Using Jensen's car, Charles and Carol head west with a plan to flee to Washington state.
26:57Where Charlie has a brother.
26:58But after three hours on the road, they change their minds, turn around, and return to Lincoln.
27:10What happened next would shake the city, the state, and finally the entire country.
27:18I don't remember what grade I was in, but I was in school.
27:22And then they gave us a strange announcement that we all had to go home.
27:37When we left school, the scene was incredible.
27:42Remember that it was a quiet town, but at that moment there was a sea of cars in front of the playground.
27:49A huge traffic jam.
27:51Parents waiting to pick up their children.
27:55Former residence of the Wards.
28:02Around 8:30 a.m. on January 28, 1958,
28:07Charles and Carol entered a mansion in the wealthy Country Club district of Lincoln.
28:15Armed, they took the occupants of the mansion prisoner.
28:19Clara Ward and the deaf maid, Lillian Fancy.
28:25At six o'clock in the afternoon, Clara Ward's husband, the 47-year-old industrialist C. Lauer Ward, returned home from work.
28:37The following morning, when he didn't show up at the office, many became suspicious.
28:42Lauer Ward's body was found near the front door.
28:52He was shot in the back and temple.
28:59Clara Ward was found upstairs, dead from multiple stab wounds to her neck, chest, and back.
29:05Lillian Fancy died tied to a bed.
29:13She had been stabbed multiple times in the chest and stomach and had deep cuts on her hands, arms, and legs.
29:20The murders were horribly brutal.
29:30Like most serial killers, they didn't just do one thing.
29:36They could have been cuts, they could have been stab wounds.
29:39It wasn't a case of, "I'm going to shoot you and that's it."
29:42It was a really brutal thing.
29:51After the Fugate family murders, everyone in Lincoln thought the killers had left town for good.
29:58But news of new deaths spread, along with terror.
30:03There was panic in the streets.
30:05People rushed to the school seeking assistance.
30:08Men patrolled the streets with shotguns.
30:10They thought, oh my God, they've gone back to Lincoln.
30:14Nobody knew where they were, and I think the mayor said something that made the situation even more frightening.
30:22We don't know how many more bodies we will find.
30:26Everyone who had a weapon loaded it and prepared for anything.
30:31And if you had more than one gun, you would give it to a neighbor who didn't have any guns.
30:36Some people were carrying weapons.
30:38The National Guard patrolled Lincoln, hoping he would show up somewhere.
30:45At the time, the Wards were prominent industrialists who lived in the best neighborhood in the city.
30:51She had a beautiful house and a maid.
30:53So it was...
30:54It was almost random.
30:56No one felt safe anywhere.
31:01Nowhere was safe.
31:03Often, the victims of serial killers are people who are on the fringes of society.
31:12I'm talking about people who are excluded because of their sexuality, due to the fact that they sell sexual services, or because they are homeless, for example.
31:24In the case of the Stockwater and Fugate victims, the victims are often significantly wealthier.
31:32And that's very unusual in the phenomenon of serial killers.
31:38With panic gripping the streets, police launched an intense manhunt for the teenage killers.
31:44People were terrified.
31:49I remember my father and his men working frantically.
31:54They hunted the criminals everywhere.
31:57They blocked the roads, they issued a call.
32:00There was a police force deployed because they were trying to cover all the roads in and out of the city.
32:08But Charles and Cario were already far away.
32:11They stole the Ward family's black Packard and were heading west again.
32:18They wanted to hide in Washington state.
32:23And his reign of terror was far from over.
32:30End of January 1958.
32:33Ten men, women, and children were killed in or around Lincoln, Nebraska.
32:41Aspiring James Dean, 19-year-old Charles Starkweather, and his 14-year-old girlfriend Karen Fugate,
32:47They managed to escape and are heading west in search of freedom.
32:52It was all part of a plan to live unhappily ever after, like arch-criminals who managed to escape justice.
33:09It's so absurd for us to imagine a 19-year-old boy and a 14-year-old girl living happily ever after.
33:19After what they did.
33:21But the frontal lobes of the adolescent brain are not yet fully developed.
33:28So these are not people you should measure using the same scale you would use to measure an adult.
33:33They are children and teenagers with little capacity to think about the future.
33:38He molded himself to the famous images of cowboys and Native Americans.
33:49And through the image of James Dean, the rebellious teenager, the rebellious outsider fighting against the known world.
33:57He also projected himself onto the duo Bonnie and Clyde.
34:00He found an identity that he adopted.
34:07It wasn't his real identity, but he acted as if he were in a movie.
34:13The next day, the teenagers crossed the Wyoming state border.
34:19The land of old-time cowboys, which Charles Starkweather loved so much in his childhood.
34:23But when they passed through the small town of Douglas, they began to feel noticed.
34:38The large Packard belonging to the Ward family attracted attention.
34:41And their Nebraska license plate gave them away.
34:45Charles Starkweather decided they needed another car.
34:48He decided to change cars.
34:53And he saw a car by the side of the road, near Douglas, Wyoming.
34:58There was a salesman sleeping in the car.
35:02And he killed him.
35:06Street vendor Mary Corningson, 37, was shot nine times inside her car.
35:13And he couldn't release the handbrake.
35:16Then someone came and said, "Do you need help?"
35:20He pointed the gun and replied, "If you can't release the handbrake, I'll kill you."
35:27But, like a good Samaritan, the 29-year-old geologist, Joe Sprinkle, reacted.
35:32He was a big, robust guy who fought with Charles Starkweather.
35:37And he took the gun from him, otherwise he would have been another victim.
35:41While Charles Starkweather was unarmed, a Wyoming state trooper arrived at the scene.
35:49From what we understand,
35:51Kerry ran and told the police officer,
35:55Save me, I am a hostage of Charles Starkweather.
35:59Meanwhile, Charles fled in the Ward family's Packard and was pursued at high speed through the Wyoming countryside.
36:09The police shot him from the moving car.
36:13It looked like the Wild West.
36:15They were shooting at him from behind, and one of the bullets went through the car window and hit his ear.
36:21At that moment, Starkweather stopped immediately, and then the police arrested him without him offering any resistance.
36:35Eleven people were killed over a period of eight days.
36:41And finally, Starkweather was arrested.
36:44Despite Kerry's claim that she was an innocent hostage, both were charged with first-degree murder.
36:58The residents of Lincoln, including many teenagers, crowded together to see the then-famous young couple.
37:06The sheriff's son, Dennis Carnot, had a privileged view of the commotion his former schoolmate caused.
37:14I remember that the trial, of course, was in the courthouse, which was 15 meters from the police station where we lived.
37:24And there was a huge crowd.
37:29And tempers kept flaring more and more.
37:33And I remember they positioned armed guards on the prison roof.
37:38And elsewhere, Chave.
37:39And that was mainly to give a show of force, to calm the crowd down.
37:49Despite having eleven deaths on his record, Charles Starkweather insisted that he killed in self-defense.
37:56For me, two things are very clear here.
37:59First, what criminologists call neutralization techniques.
38:02In other words, he is looking for some way to justify or minimize the seriousness of his actions.
38:11But I think it also relates to the meaning of...
38:15To the fantasy world that Starkweather inhabited.
38:20So it's almost like a perverse moral code.
38:23It's something he saw in cowboy movies.
38:26Something he read in the comic books.
38:28It was a way of justifying his actions.
38:32Frankly, it was a way of justifying the unjustifiable.
38:36No one doubted Charles Starkweather's guilt.
38:42But after stating that Fugate was innocent, he almost immediately recanted.
38:48The initial story they had invented was that she had nothing to do with it.
38:54But it didn't last long.
38:55And he said, that's right, that's the true story.
38:59He gave a statement in which he implicated her.
39:01He passed a lie detector test, which is not accepted by the court, but which confirmed his version of the facts.
39:09The vast majority of reporters who covered the trial.
39:13We all thought she was guilty.
39:16Dennis Carnock's mother accompanied Carol Fugate when she was captured.
39:21Every time my mother was with Carol, she never said anything about being a victim, being a hostage, or about not knowing anything about it.
39:32It was only when she was speaking to a large audience that she would tell those stories.
39:38And she never told my mother any of that.
39:42This obviously affected my mother's opinion regarding the case.
39:46What I remember is that afterwards my mother said that she was the brains of the duo.
39:55After a two-month trial, the jury concluded that Charles Starkweather and Carol Fugate were guilty of first-degree murder.
40:05Charles Starkweather was sentenced to death.
40:08Carol Fugate, 15, sentenced to life in prison.
40:11His attitude was impassive.
40:18His face showed no expression throughout the entire trial.
40:24The only time she saw any emotion was when she cried, when she was found guilty and the jury read the verdict.
40:31In the span of less than two months, 11 innocent people were killed in a murderous spree that shocked the United States.
40:47But were Charles Starkweather and Carol Fugate born killers?
40:51Or are they a product of the environment in which they grew up?
40:53You need to remember that they were teenagers, 19 and 14 years old.
41:02We've all been teenagers once, and we've all wanted to kill a teacher at some point.
41:07The mother who hit us, the father who gave us little allowance, the brother who stole our toys, etc.
41:13We've all had murderous fantasies, but we didn't act on them because we were already socialized enough to have an internal mechanism of guilt, of restraint, that makes us wonder if we would like to do such a thing.
41:28Yes, but that would be completely wrong.
41:30We would be isolated, we would have a miserable life, so it's best not to do it.
41:35This containment mechanism doesn't work with people like Charlie and Carol.
41:39And if they hadn't been stopped, they would have continued, nothing would have stopped them, they felt no remorse, they had no reason to kill.
41:48So they were born to kill?
41:51It seems that something triggered it in him during his adolescence, when he adopted this persona to try to fill his inner void.
42:01And she went along as a passive participant.
42:05I think what happened was that Starkweather was subjected to two different processes that propelled him down a trajectory where other people ended up dying.
42:19The first was an encounter with a partner, with whom he was able to create a kind of revelry, literally a madness lived together.
42:35And this madness allowed him to normalize a world in which his violence is permissible, his violence is acceptable, his violence is desirable.
42:48Some people, after killing for the first time, feel depressed and never repeat the experience.
43:02But some people become murderers and continue to kill because they find the experience visceral, vital, exciting, sensual.
43:15Unfortunately, that's what happened to Starkweather.
43:18The experience of killing gave him a sense of identity that he didn't possess and that was lacking in his life.
43:23Charles was executed at 9:45 AM on June 25, 1959.
43:35Carroll was released in 1976 after serving 18 years in prison.
43:39He still maintains his innocence.
43:44Brazilian version, Tempo Filmes, São Paulo.
43:53Brazilian version, Tempo Filmes, São Paulo.
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