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Writer/Director/Producer Ilan Azoulai talks to Fest Track about understanding, acceptance and truth in regards to his new documentary film: "Holy Ghetto" playing the Features section at Dances With Films NY in New York, New York.
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00:00This is Tim Wasper from Festtrek Concert TV.
00:28I'm here at the Regal Cinemas Union Square in New York City for Dances with Films New York.
00:34I wanted to ask about understanding versus acceptance.
00:38Because they're two very different things.
00:41Even today, in day-to-day life, and also as a spiritual life coach and a sound therapist that I work,
00:47many people come to me with their perceptions, understandings.
00:51I understand where somebody comes from. I don't have to accept it.
00:56So it is coming to that acceptance of understanding of somebody that is not thinking like you.
01:03So that comes first. When it comes to me, then I accept it for me.
01:09Because of your experience.
01:12Because of my experience, because of my understanding.
01:15You know, since I was a kid, I would talk to different entities.
01:19But then over the years, it shut down.
01:21And then when I started filming in 2010, I started filming.
01:27I started diving into shamanism, which brought me back home to Kabbalah and Judaism.
01:34And I'm stirring it.
01:36And I had a relationship with the lady that was doing all the research and development.
01:42And she, many people knew what I had in there before I even knew.
01:46Like, they were telling me, you don't understand what you have in this film.
01:49I said, I guess I don't.
01:51I guess I don't.
01:53Because I didn't see that.
01:54But I was filming from here.
01:56So I understood that.
02:24Yeah!
02:25One appetite, everybody, Daisy.
02:29She shot heres.
02:32She shot heres.
02:33She smoke crack.
02:35Jeff, what do you want, mommy?
02:38She can do something for you?
02:41She won't be a machine chef.
02:42She won't eat.
02:44She won't eat.
02:45She won't eat.
02:46She won't eat.
02:48No, no.
02:49No, no, no.
02:50No, no, no.
02:52Do you want of a pie?
02:53I can't do something.
02:54The acceptance is to accept that this is also a reality, you know, that this is also a reality.
03:18I don't have to accept it, but I can understand it, and I can give it the respect, and...
03:23the space to exist.
03:27You know, Yana, for example, she, in the beginning time, she was very victim, in victim mode.
03:36And I understand that, because when you start, just like I understand this reality of abundance,
03:46and acceptance of abundance, I also understand the reality of victimhood, and acceptance of victimhood.
03:53Because there is something very satisfying in the chase, in the victimhood.
04:00Because what is a victim?
04:01I want to get there, but I'm not there yet.
04:04I want to get there, but he's stopping me.
04:06I want to get there, but it's their fault.
04:08I want to get there, but they're doing this to me.
04:10How can I get there if they're pulling my legs off?
04:13But that has to come down to self-worth.
04:16Oh, of course.
04:17No, no, for sure, for sure.
04:18No, for sure, for sure, for sure.
04:20When we're diving in, that's about self-worth.
04:22But before you can, you know, before you can release this, I mean, there's so many things
04:27that are tied in.
04:28So I come from an environment, I grew up in an environment that you suffer, thus you exist.
04:34You're going to get there.
05:04and an environment that said if it's too good to be true it's not true that's where how i grew up
05:15and it is so not true actually if it's too good to be true it is true and and you don't have to
05:25suffer to have to know it it's a noetic sense it's yeah i believe it it's like somebody who
05:32lies pathological liar they believe their lies they they so believe it that they are it you know
05:40so so i started i in recent years as i was doing the editing and as i started in 2021 22
05:49after my seven years of as my brother says on the floor my face was on the ground with my teeth on
05:57the sidewalk it was like after that i not after not after that during it during it i remember
06:06when everything crashed in 2015 for me um i moved to la and i lived in the mountains of chatsworth
06:14you know where all the john wayne movies were so i wasn't in the house alone i don't know i was in
06:19the house a lot and and and peacocks and so so it was four years four and a half years of just
06:30i could not move i i was like i couldn't i wasn't motivated at all i was in my own and and rehashing
06:37and going through realities and correcting my actions in my my perception of the past i was going through
06:45these events and i was correcting them i was like this is how i wanted to be it this is how i should
06:50have done it i understand this i understand how i spoke i understand what i did and because
06:56all those low frequency actions that i were involved in or said
07:03they inhibited me from really being in abundance
07:09and so i had to go through all this to to under to accept this and to understand it and to accept
07:16so i can eventually come to this abundance but the abundance wasn't a the goal it was just i want
07:23to i want to clear i want to sleep peaceful at night that's why i want to sleep peaceful at night
07:29and this is where where i am today it's like for me abundance is i want i'm happy to sleep peacefully at night
07:35they are suffering women they are victims in a lot of ways the thing is is that these are hardened
07:49street criminals i mean when they're on the streets all they know is a jungle mode survival if i have to
07:56kill if i have to lie if i have to steal whatever it takes for me to survive and get what i want
08:02so when they come down those stairs that doesn't just go away
08:06see that's there and you have to work with them and train them and teach them this ain't the streets
08:14and being the light is actually doing good we are we are programmed actually by creation to do good
08:23for one another because when you do good for somebody you feel good you do feel good even if
08:30you give a dollar or whatever that is so you're helping somebody you feel good that's the dopamine
08:36that's that drink that's a good stuff that comes up you know when you smile the muscles actually
08:42release endorphins there's something very human about it and yet you know we are creatures of habit
08:50dave says in one time and it's true like i i have all the ingredients me myself elan i have all the
08:55ingredients that i could have been in the red light district the way i grew up all my you know
09:02my parents became ultra orthodox religious when i was 13 14 i didn't even get to understand that i was
09:08wounded sexually and just a lot of stuff and now there is another identity issue
09:14so but everything you know i'm sitting here and everything was supposed to be this way so like
09:21this is that's how i look at it that's my spiritual journey that's how i chose there's the path that
09:26i chose to walk through to come to that you know the name holy ghetto you know you know how many times
09:33i got punched by having this name like everybody get the name out the name has no feeling people in
09:39the industry the name is not good i said well don't see the movie
09:43you know what the rules say
10:02like i thought you shoe
10:05...
10:13...
10:20...
10:25It was a long process for that.
10:49It was a long process for that.
10:51I had so many different timelines.
10:54Like in life, different timelines, different story lives.
10:59Truth is really what it is all about.
11:02Truth has no emotions.
11:04We bring the emotions.
11:06Truth has no emotions.
11:07We bring the spices in.
11:10Truth is like the truth, like a bland food, no spices.
11:14So I want to credit two people, I want to credit Ravit Markus, who is an award-winning
11:20documentary filmmaker that she, in the last few months, sat with me and helped me structure
11:26certain things.
11:27So it was really great.
11:29And my partner, Gina Ann, who is a storyteller and an inner child specialist.
11:34And she, we sat Friday nights and we just looked at the story as a creative, as a play.
11:41Let's play.
11:42Get your inner child out.
11:43Let's play.
11:44Let's play.
11:45Thank you so much the way things are.
11:46And, of course, I want to mention Shirley Payton, who made this all happen in the last few,
11:50two, three years, as the executive producer.
11:53You know what?
11:55One of the greatest lessons God ever taught me.
11:57What?
11:57what was that the clock doesn't go backwards yesterday's gone yesterday's gone that's it
12:05it's not yesterday it's all gone faster structure so that helped a lot because because there was
12:15what story do i tell now truth is like a stadium and you have 10 gates to the stadium so it doesn't
12:23matter where you're coming from it's all truth it's what truth do you want to show this is a film
12:29about hope and transformation i wanted to stay in the in the spirit of when the film ended when i
12:39finished doing the journey before i went into my own journey i didn't want to include any information
12:45that happened from 2016 until now because there are a lot of things everybody has their lives and
12:51some of them i'm not in touch with and it wasn't authentic and real to the film but the structure
12:59comes when i understand we talked about understanding and accepting think about it it's a
13:04structure yeah it is you're fit you are creating you're creating a new neuron pass you're creating
13:12a new path for the neurons to walk in you know it's like walking in the field of of wheat that there is
13:17no pathway when you walk there too much too many times it becomes it becomes so this is what end up
13:24happening and i'm very grateful i could have made the phone with the top i have a different storyline
13:28completely yeah that i have a few storylines you know and and it it was just it still is you know
13:37and it's still forming because there is a continuation for the film there is a continuation for the stories
13:44and the lives of the people i'm only in contact with olga now but there there is continuation for
13:49this and this is part of this this is part of the structure but the structure again the structure
13:56many times is refers to something oh like you said creatures of habit now i'm not going to add
14:03this to the habit there's going to be a standalone this is his own thing it stirred up everything in
14:09me from my past plus i'm bearing the pain of the girls that i'm helping
14:17you want to be the savior
14:24personally it's very very hard for me to forgive myself of doing that but it's a procedure you know
14:33it's a process i have days that i don't eat i don't care not to eat three days but i cannot leave
14:38baby for a month without food i call god he say i don't print money deal with the human beings
14:49i go to human beings they tell me deal with god
14:51i could not have finished the film back then i tried yeah i tried i pitched it at different festivals i
15:08could not finish because i i i i had to disconnect myself to heal myself and to look at it now as a
15:15therapist or or somebody who is helping people and manifesting their physical life by understanding
15:22the spiritual side but i cannot be attached that is why i could finish the film now so that's why i can
15:28listen to people that are and and listen and being there and to support and and to listen and to use
15:35this film as a gateway and as a tool for other people's way so yeah so it's a completely i'm a
15:41completely i'm in a different reality like i told you the other day i'm in a completely different
15:45reality than where i was i was scared i was insecure uh um i was fearful of what other people are saying
15:54although i told myself oh yeah but that's where the old saying was fake it till you make it but it took a
16:00long i could i had to go deep down you know to really clean everything i could not just stay on the oh
16:08everything is nice and then go home because nothing would move nothing moved yeah i cannot it cannot
16:14really fake it because nothing moves and and and and none of the i got so many rejections from 2010
16:21until 2016 from off everybody because i wasn't there yeah i wasn't i wasn't
16:28no i am
16:42no i am
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