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Fest Track On Sirk TV Film Interview: PILGRIM (Feature) [Dances With Films LA 2025 - Los Angeles, California - Virtual] - Part I
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Co-Directors/Co-Stars/Father & Daughter Doug & Scout Purdy talk to Fest Track about story, performance and growing up in regards to their film: "Pilgrim" playing the Features section at Dances With Films Los Angeles 2025 in Los Angeles, California.
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But DWF is such an interesting
00:29
element. But, you know, being from Burbank, you know, obviously, Scout growing up in Burbank,
00:35
and, and Mike, you know, how does that influence, to be very honest, inspiration? You know,
00:42
does it influence inspiration? How did that sort of feed into what the story you are telling with
00:47
Pilgrim is? I think growing up, I was always surrounded by people like, really close to
00:54
the industry, because Burbank is like, the quiet, like Hollywood, like, it's not as loud and glittery,
01:01
but like, you get a lot of shit done in Burbank. And so you run into a lot of filmmakers and people
01:06
who work in the industry there. And so it was sort of hard to escape in that sense, where I knew that
01:13
I would be interested in film. And so I was exposed to it often, which let, like, made me more willing
01:23
to just sort of just attack my own projects, I guess. But when it comes to actually inspiring the
01:32
script, I think we were, Burbank's sort of like a city. It's sort of like a city, but there's hiking
01:40
trails all around it. Yeah. We grew up like, I grew up with them taking me on hikes and taking me
01:45
outside of just the general town to see like, just beautiful pieces of nature. And it felt like a
01:56
really nice escape. And I think we were drawn to that when it came to just thinking about how we
02:03
wanted the film to look and the general feeling. Yeah. And I think to dovetail on that, I think that
02:07
like, for one thing, you know, growing up, I grew up in LA. And so it's fun, like sometimes
02:12
at night, you know, growing up, we would just go for drives like of Mulholland or in different
02:17
areas. I'm like, hey, that's the building that so and so this murder happened. And this is,
02:22
you know, and so like, you know, seeing like this, you know, different sides of LA, but also
02:28
fun vacations. We did a lot of trips like, you know, to Tahoe or Zion, a lot of hiking stuff
02:35
out in nature and stuff because it's cheaper. But it's also like, just it's fun to get out
02:41
and see different things. You know, we wanted to expose the kids to that early on.
02:45
Is there anything you can do to fix me?
02:47
Do you think you're somewhat observant?
02:49
I'm extremely observant.
02:51
Joe, I've moved five feet away from you in the last two minutes.
02:56
How about you, Joe? What are you doing this summer?
02:58
Uh, nothing.
03:01
Let's do something. Let's have a party, you know?
03:04
Let's throw a rager.
03:04
Maybe, yeah.
03:06
I've been told I have a vibe.
03:08
Right.
03:09
And also, thank you for telling me that my brother got into college.
03:11
We thought you might be weird about him.
03:13
You're an awkward person.
03:14
Why does everyone think I'm going to be weird? I'm not weird.
03:17
I worked my ass off and had no social life.
03:19
I want you to be a normal kid that goes out and does normal stupid things that don't make
03:23
any sense.
03:24
Did you shoot this up in Big Bear, if I'm correct, or did you shoot somewhere else?
03:28
Yes, Big Bear.
03:29
Well, Big Bear primarily, I would say about at least half the film is shot up there.
03:34
We went around Burbank to, like, if we needed a pickup or two.
03:39
Yeah.
03:39
We would just say to the editor, like, you know, this shot's good, but if you could get
03:44
the, I'm like, okay, so we'll go out in some morning, wake up, and just find a location.
03:48
Sometimes get up at four in the morning and drive, like, two hours north and just find
03:52
something.
03:53
I'm like, yeah, this works.
03:54
Yeah, so sometimes in one scene, you look in the background and it was pine trees, and
04:00
then in, like, a certain shot, it was an avocado tree, but nobody really pays attention.
04:04
Sometimes in our backyard, just dressing the backyard, you know, it was very a handmade
04:10
film, you know, just piecing it together like that.
04:13
And what I like about that, and I think that, you know, aspiring filmmakers, like, can maybe
04:21
get into it as the fact that you don't have to wait around for the money.
04:25
Just go out there and do it.
04:27
You know, there's always going to be a reason not to do it.
04:30
So, you know, I always said to the kids, and probably also saying to myself, like, let's
04:37
just go do it, figure it out as we go.
04:38
I'm trying to do something stupid, okay?
04:43
For the first time in my life, I'm trying to do something without a plan or a destination.
04:47
I'm going to hike.
04:49
Are you going alone?
04:50
I'm going with my dad.
04:53
Oh, did you talk to him?
04:54
Not so much in the verbal sense of the word, but mentally, he's totally on board.
04:59
Hey, road trip.
05:00
I do think we should start thinking about our food intake.
05:10
We should either stop eating it or stop feeding it to squirrels.
05:13
Who's been feeding it to squirrels?
05:16
Aw.
05:17
Now looking, you know, obviously co-directing and all this, can you talk about, because
05:21
you have to look as the characters to the motivation, but still step outside.
05:26
Scott, could you sort of talk about, obviously, you know, you've done it so many times before,
05:31
but, you know, it's sort of imparting that, but also, Scott, taking and finding your own
05:36
voice in that balance, if you could both talk to that.
05:41
I think we had to find a balance pretty early on between how we're going to approach just
05:49
acting in scenes versus directing.
05:52
So we had to get a grasp on who our characters were really early on in filming, just to make
05:58
the whole process easier.
06:01
So it, I think, started in the writing of our characters.
06:04
We wanted them to be similar to us, so it wouldn't have to be such a large jump from
06:09
when we say cut to when we say action and stuff.
06:13
But I think we had the characters have a lot of our own qualities or qualities that we felt
06:20
comfortable portraying, but also we heightened them and made them a little more interesting,
06:26
and we tried to play off of our dynamic.
06:30
So we didn't really have to, I don't know.
06:33
No, I would agree with that.
06:35
And I think another point, though, is we are really close.
06:39
Yeah.
06:40
So that's one thing that, you know, our characters in the film, there's a little bit of a disconnect.
06:46
You know, dad's trying his best, daughter's going through some stuff.
06:51
In real life, I think we could connect on stuff much quicker and easier, but we had to
06:56
find, you know, and like the hiking being the catalyst for that, of bringing them together
07:00
to fill in those missing puzzle pieces.
07:03
Yeah.
07:04
Okay, I'm worried about rain.
07:09
It's summer in California.
07:13
Sorry.
07:18
Yeah, I found something.
07:20
Oh.
07:20
It does not smell good.
07:22
Do you want to eat that?
07:23
Okay, poke it.
07:23
If it wiggles, that means it hasn't, rigor mortis hasn't set in that's, and that it's safe.
07:27
Okay.
07:29
Oh.
07:34
Are we in shock?
07:38
I don't know.
07:39
Oh.
07:41
What's with you and the phone?
07:42
The reception is horrible, and I got to check in with work every once in a while to make
07:46
sure everything's okay.
07:47
Everything's completely under control.
07:48
How is everything under control, dad?
07:50
Why is it that every time there's some major event in our lives, I'm the last person to know.
07:54
Because you freak out.
07:57
Now having your, because obviously was Brooke filming a lot of this?
08:02
Did she shoot?
08:03
That's an interesting one.
08:05
Brooke would be filming sometimes.
08:07
The camera operation was really just like, who's not in the scene?
08:11
Like, we would set up the shots, and then, at first, and then, like, you know, Brooke would
08:18
shoot a lot of it.
08:20
Max, our son, her brother, who is in it as well, and also composed the score, he shot a
08:27
ton of it.
08:27
And then Riley Dismore was another one who's in the film, and she shot a bunch of it.
08:33
And then, at certain points, like, on some of Scout's solo stuff, I'd be filming, and
08:40
you actually were holding the camera quite a bit towards the end of shooting.
08:44
In the second half, she got a lot more comfortable with it.
08:47
And we used to joke around that she would be like, okay, I want one more, and suddenly
08:51
she's David Fincher.
08:53
Like, are we going to do 90,000 takes of this one, of this one little thing?
08:58
But it was a lot of fun.
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And, I mean, that's how you learn how to run a camera, just by doing it.
09:03
And, I mean, that's what I'm working with.
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