00:00But a couple of these situations that have turned out here,
00:02which I thought were interesting, the Cleveland Browns,
00:06well, they didn't make him do any favors with their offensive coordinator
00:09who was like, you know what, Jim Schwartz,
00:10I think I'd be perfect for this job.
00:12We do think he's, well, oh, no, we're not going to give you that job.
00:15We're going to give it to somebody else who doesn't have nearly
00:17any coaching acumen like you, like Todd Munkin.
00:20Out of nowhere, Todd Munkin got it.
00:22Yeah, offensive guy, though.
00:24I mean, no, we don't like the odds.
00:25He loves Shador?
00:26What did he sell him on Shador?
00:27Well, there are some nice offensive weapons that they have.
00:30I will say that.
00:31Quinshawn Junkins, Fannin, a big play tight end, right?
00:36I mean, can you get the most out of Jerry Judy?
00:38They still have Tillman there.
00:40We'll see.
00:40I mean, Munkin, I think when you look at the teams in the division
00:44and you look at, obviously, his former team Baltimore
00:47and you look at Pittsburgh and you look at, obviously,
00:50some of the others, Cincinnati with Joe Burrow,
00:53you have to be able to score points.
00:54We know the defense is good.
00:56The problem that they have now is that they upset Jim Schwartz so much
01:02that he doesn't want to be there now.
01:05So you have Miles Garrett, you have this dominant defense,
01:08statistically one of the best in the AFC,
01:10but now the guy calling the shots doesn't want to stay in Cleveland.
01:14He wants out.
01:15He wants to go to another team.
01:17What does that mean now for this team overall, chemistry, locker room,
01:21and for a player like Miles Garrett that basically led the league
01:25and broke the sack record?
01:27I mean, pretty incredible how it turns out, too,
01:29because you figure that if it extends it that long,
01:31they're probably going to give it to Schwartz.
01:32Then maybe because Udinski was up at the top of that list here.
01:34He ends up bailing on that job here and ends up with Todd Munkin out of nowhere
01:37where he says, look, Cleveland's like,
01:39we have two more years under contract.
01:41He's like, I just packed my stuff up.
01:42So you better fire me right now.
01:43Well, here's the thing.
01:45Remember the test that they supposedly had?
01:49They had a written test.
01:50For the coaches?
01:51Yes.
01:51Oh, wow.
01:52And that's supposedly, that is why Minter and McDaniel, Mike McDaniel.
01:57Like, I don't want anything to do with it.
01:58They backed out, supposedly.
02:00So did Munkin pass the test?
02:03And did they give one to Schwartz, too?
02:05He was already in-house.
02:07That's crazy.
02:08It's a dysfunctional organization.
02:10They have quarterback needs, and you still don't know if Shadour is the guy.
02:15And they bring him back.
02:17They're paying how much to Deshaun Watson?
02:19$2.81?
02:20Still.
02:20Like, is he coming back?
02:21I saw him vacation in Italy lately.
02:22He's always in Italy.
02:23Yeah, he is.
02:24He loves Italy.
02:25Don't get me wrong.
02:26Great country.
02:27Love the food.
02:28But, I mean, come on.
02:29He's always vacationing somewhere.
02:31Does this guy really care about football?
02:34And if so, he's rehabbing.
02:36What do you do with him?
02:38He's basically a backup.
02:39He said, work hard, play hard, Joe.
02:40He's rehabbing to get back hard.
02:42He's out there on vacations at this point right now.
02:44He's always in the Riviera.
02:45Yeah, Kevin Stefanski should be on the Riviera, but he's not.
02:48He's down in Atlanta, Joe, as the new head coach right now.
02:51Restructured their front office here.
02:52New general manager, Matt Ryan, comes in as the head of pro football operations there for that team.
02:57I think this is going to be an interesting one because that's a winnable division that you can get.
03:01And I do think it works perfectly.
03:02If Michael Penix can come back healthy early, I think Stefanski's a pretty good fit there down in Atlanta.
03:06I've said it.
03:06I like the fit.
03:07He's a significant upgrade from where Raheem Morris and Arthur Smith were offensively, right?
03:14And when you talk about the defense with Ulbrich last year and how dominant they were in the second half of the season, as long as the offense can be consistent, they're going to be good.
03:23I believe Stefanski's a much better head coach than Arthur Smith and Raheem Morris were.
03:28So I don't think, listen, I think they are now a front runner to challenge Tampa Bay to win the division.
03:35And when you look at it as a whole, it wouldn't shock me, Donnie, 11-6.
03:40Would we be shocked with Penix if he comes back healthy?
03:43You know, and this team, that they go 11-6 in the South?
03:46I mean, Bijan, Kyle Pitts, Drake London, you look at Pierce and that defense, I mean, they have playmakers.
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