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00:00Remember earlier this week when I'm like pot committed, pot committed, same thing here.
00:05If the Golden State Warriors, if you're going to jockey for position.
00:10For how many years would you figure they've been doing this?
00:13Doing this?
00:14Like.
00:15Jockeying to be ready in case he ever wants a trade.
00:20Probably at least three years.
00:22Okay.
00:22Feels like even, probably after Kevin Durant left.
00:25Kevin Durant left and you're thinking, man that was fun, we need to get another one of those.
00:30And you looked around and you thought, Giannis, Greek freak, he's even, he's even.
00:35He's taller than KD and the span and the skills, Giannis, let's get.
00:40And KD left in the summer of 2019?
00:422019.
00:43A long time ago.
00:45Do you think that's a valid answer?
00:46Seven years.
00:47Has it been since KD left that.
00:50Probably, maybe not for Giannis specifically, but for the mythical next superstar to want.
00:55Yeah, probably.
00:56Well, and I wonder, because, right, that ends up.
01:00Turning into Wiggins and Kaminga, you end up winning another title.
01:05I don't think they thought they were going to win that title.
01:07This has been well chronicled on this radio station.
01:10And other places where I think you ended up with Jonathan Kaminga because you kind of thought.
01:15that your timeline was over.
01:17Yep.
01:17And so you needed to regenerate.
01:20And here comes two timelines.
01:22And I think, you know, I'll take this a step further.
01:25Two timelines wasn't just wrong.
01:28It wasn't just inaccurate.
01:30It was damaging.
01:32Really, really damaging.
01:35Well, it was damaging because of two things.
01:38One, you went out and won a title.
01:40So everything that we all thought about how this was going to go changed because you got the surprise.
01:45Baby in 2022, which made you think we could do this again.
01:49I mean, there's no stop.
01:50You're stopping us from doing it again.
01:52So you didn't play the young guys as much as you could have.
01:55But the other part of why it's so damaging is you picked the wrong projects.
01:59You picked James.
02:00James Wiseman, who played only three games at Memphis, and he actually makes it.
02:05I think it's an appearance in higher or lower.
02:06I think it's tomorrow.
02:06Oh, exciting.
02:07I've worked ahead.
02:07I'm not sure which one it is, but.
02:10And you picked Kaminga, a guy who had never played college ball.
02:13He played one league, one year of.
02:15G League Ignite.
02:16So you took two projects.
02:18Moody's fine.
02:18I mean.
02:19Yeah, that's fine.
02:20Last night.
02:20Right.
02:20Yeah, that's fine.
02:22He wasn't even a top 10 pick.
02:24But I do wonder.
02:24You're too big.
02:25Swings, though, you blew.
02:26Yes, but it's not.
02:27Like, really, it's ended up.
02:30It's damaging the brand, almost.
02:32Because what.
02:34What.
02:35A lot of Warrior fans now think is that Jonathan has.
02:40been jerked around and Steve Kerr has expired.
02:45And all of these opinions that are out there, and I fully understand where they're coming
02:49from, I.
02:50I just don't know if everybody who has these opinions understands why this happened.
02:55Because you know what I've learned through all of this?
02:58All of this.
03:00Jerked around and done him dirty, and do you want to know what I actually.
03:05think about the two main parties involved?
03:08I think Steve Kerr.
03:10And Jonathan Kaminga are both great dudes, and I don't think that.
03:15That they are the ones who actually started this.
03:19The situation.
03:20The situation that you just detailed started this.
03:23You brought someone.
03:25in who doesn't fit what the organization was doing.
03:30And man, there's just been all this stuff for years, and everybody.
03:35including those two, and other players, and other executives, have all ended up.
03:40in rough positions, because you have things that don't fit, yet everybody's.
03:45Aspirations remain, and so, I think it's led.
03:50to a damaging of the brand, to a certain degree, because it's.
03:55led to a bunch of anger that I actually don't think came from a nefarious place.
04:00It really didn't.
04:02You just, as you said, you picked the wrong guy.
04:05And I do think it goes back to that word, alignment.
04:08Yes.
04:08And if you go back to those picks.
04:10at the time, and you're Stefan Draymond, whether or not you liked the picks then or not.
04:15as you started to go through it, you realize that these guys weren't ready to help you right now and.
04:20Steve Kerr, we've always said it, the one thing he wants more than anything is to win and.
04:25So he's not just gonna say, well, draft capital, we invested it, gotta give him 25 minutes.
04:30tonight, even if it costs us seven to 11 wins, no, we're gonna go out and try to win.
04:35basketball games every night, and so they didn't develop, and the rest is history, they won a title and all.
04:40the rest of it, but I do think the idea of two timelines, even though that's not a real phrase.
04:45that they came up with, it was kind of the way they went about it, and I don't think that that aligned.
04:50with what these veterans wanted coming off of the KD, the third title.
04:55the Vets wanted more Vets. We want Paul George. Well, here's Kaminga.
05:00Well, and I'd argue a lot of fans wanted that too. If you want to know what actually drives
05:05me nuts, it's not this Kaminga conversation, and I know, I know that we.
05:10we've all been branded, you're either a lover, or you're a hater, or you're the, I, come.
05:15Kaminga, actually, himself, Jonathan, he didn't bother me at all. It doesn't.
05:20What bothers me is how many fans look at this right now and expect
05:25the Golden State Warriors in the midst of actually going on a title run.
05:30should have also been developing an 18 year old project. It's the stupidest thing.
05:35I've ever heard someone think, I'm so sorry if you think that. I don't mean to be mean.
05:40It's not doable. You can't do that. You can't go.
05:45We're going to develop an 18 year old and we're going to win a title. You can't do it. And every.
05:50I hear so many people get so mad that the Warriors didn't.
05:55give him and turn over a ton of minutes to him three and four years ago.
06:00when they were in the midst of a title run. I don't understand it. I want that guru drop.
06:05I don't get it. I don't. How did you want the Warriors to do this?
06:09and
06:10now we arrive at this spot where Steve's a bad guy and Jonathan's been done dirty and it's
06:15like, no, it's just what you just said. Steve just wanted to win basketball.
06:20basketball games. Yep. And the fan base demanded that too. But then in the next break they demand
06:25that you develop an 18 year old kid. That's not how the NBA works. It's not a pro sport.
06:30sports works. Right. I don't know. You can't do it. I don't get it. You think?
06:35you. You can't do that. You can try or you can work and
06:40it doesn't always work. And I'm thinking about an 18 year old rookie back in 1990
06:4596 slash 1997 more highly regarded than just
06:50Jonathan Kaminga and he joined a team that was really good. He played 71 of the games.
06:55He played 15 minutes a night and he averaged 7.6 a game. Okay. Kobe Bryant
07:00was his name. They got to the playoffs and he played nine games and they were a second round.
07:05Alistair Kobe Bryant. Kobe Bryant. So that's fascinating. They didn't even.
07:10like play him a ton and develop him. They were a team trying to win a championship because that's what they
07:15did. And yet an 18 year old Kobe, he came in and he played a lot of the
07:20games 15 minutes a night and he shot the ball six times a game.
07:25And then he went on to become Kobe a champion and all the rest. But to your point.
07:30the Lakers always are going for a title and even they weren't going to develop
07:35Kobe like people want coming and develop. I love that. I think the word that
07:40and it's in Steve Kerr's quote today, you brought it up a couple of times alignment. That's it's just
07:45that's all we're really talking about. People think Steve hates young people, people.
07:50think Joe Lacob is in the draft room and he shouldn't be. People think that Mike Dunleavy is there.
07:55this and Bob Myers is that all you have inside the warrior hallway.
08:00is the same thing that you have on our phone lines, disagreement.
08:05that's it. That's all you have. You have disagreement.
08:10among people who, who also, by the way, have different goals.
08:15they have different goals. Steve Kerr win games period.
08:19Yep. Joe Lakers.
08:20they have run an entire franchise.
08:22Mike Dunleavy is over here going, well, I got a
08:25I got to make acquisitions and I got a roster build.
08:28Steph Curry's over here going, make shots.
08:30win games.
08:31Draymond Green, provide, you know, preserve legacy.
08:34win games.
08:35All of these things, those.
08:36And then there's Jonathan who's like, I just want to play basketball.
08:40Right.
08:41And get better and be a really good player in this league.
08:43His goal is take off my warm ups.
08:45Right.
08:45And those things are all budding with each other off and on through.
08:50throughout the years.
08:51And that's why I'm just so focused on the word alignment because yes, they've.
08:55been aligned and you know, when they went out and got Kevin Durant, there was alignment
08:59there because.
09:00the salaries were such and the rules were such that you could go out there and do it.
09:04And so they made that.
09:05that happened.
09:06But subsequent to that, as you've gotten deeper in this run.
09:10And Joe Lacob has to start thinking about the future, then he thinks about it a certain
09:14way and these.
09:15veteran players.
09:16Now, I don't think Steph Curry is worried at all about the 2032 first round pick.
09:20Definitely not.
09:21Definitely not.
09:22He'll be 44 and he could still be playing.
09:25a la Tom Brady, but he's probably less worried about that than various Lakers.
09:3022 a night.
09:31That's right.
09:32Trevor in Rohnert Park.
09:33Thank you for calling.
09:34888.
09:35957.
09:36957 is the number.
09:37Fire away on anything that we're talking about here.
09:39Hey, Trevor.
09:40What's up?
09:41Hey, what's up guys?
09:42So bottom line, I just think like talking about.
09:45Jonathan coming down, how he would have worked out or didn't work out with the team.
09:49It doesn't matter in this.
09:50situation.
09:51The point is, is that when you got a team where you don't have anybody averaging.
09:55like over 20 points a game, you just throw everything you can to get you on.
10:00to be honest, they have the draft picks available.
10:02They have some players that are somewhat decent that.
10:05They can get off the boat.
10:06They got Jimmy Butler.
10:07So I'd say, I don't, I don't think it's a question.
10:10I think.
10:10I think the Warriors have the assets.
10:11I think they should just not even think about what.
10:15Like you guys said yesterday, just ask the bucks.
10:17What do you want?
10:18And we'll give you that.
10:19And.
10:20I think that's the way you go.
10:21You don't start a negotiation by just throwing things out there.
10:24You.
10:25We'll just ask them right away.
10:26Let them talk and say, what do you want?
10:28Yeah.
10:29Because the fact is, is that.
10:30Kinga may or may not be a great player.
10:32I personally don't think he's going to end up being a real.
10:35Really great player.
10:36But I do think that he doesn't fit on this roster no matter what.
10:39So that guy.
10:40That's part of the trade most likely anyway, or he's going to be moved off the team one
10:43way or the other, but.
10:45But at this moment, if you got a chance to go get Giannis and you've been preparing
10:48for four years for this.
10:50There is no scenario where you would say no, unless Steph Curry's name is.
10:55I included in that.
10:56Trevor, you can be comfortable because I think the organization agrees with you.
11:00And so do I.
11:02Trevor, thanks.
11:03I don't know if you do.
11:04Do you agree with that?
11:05Just give the Bucks a menu with the Warriors roster on it.
11:08Cross out Steph and be like, what do you want?
11:10To do.
11:11Sure.
11:12You could do that.
11:13What do you want to do?
11:14You could start with that.
11:15And you know, I've always.
11:15You've been.
11:16You keep the picks.
11:17You got to keep the picks because I am a Warrior fan and I will be.
11:20in six to eight to ten years, God willing, I'm still on this earth.
11:23And so I don't want.
11:25I want them to go through a long drought where they stink.
11:28But if you get Giannis onto Takumpo.
11:30And you're able to keep him long term.
11:32Well, you have a good player who's exciting in the.
11:35Three to five years.
11:36He's still good after Steph.
11:38If Steph only plays one more or.
11:40Whatever.
11:41So if you want to F them picks.
11:43I was thinking about the Rams today on my drive in.
11:45Because that's what they did and then they won the Super Bowl.
11:48Right.
11:49I'm not saying that this will lead.
11:50To a Larry O'Brien, but it would be maximizing the Steph Curry window.
11:55They also haven't paid for it in ways that we thought they might after the Super Bowl.
11:59They've still been really viable.
12:00And still been really good.
12:01Yeah.
12:02And they've still been able to pull in young players and Jared Verse and Mike.
12:05They've got good people still.
12:06Yeah.
12:07On the way in.
12:08It was funny.
12:09There's a report.
12:10It's circulating out there.
12:11And then I mentioned the big concern that I have.
12:13I want to get to that too.
12:14I want to get to that too.
12:15But there's a report circulating out there.
12:18And you'll hear this sometimes when there's one of these.
12:20names that comes on the market and an unnamed GM.
12:25I love it.
12:26Will tell people what the Bucs are asking for.
12:29And that.
12:30That GM told a reporter.
12:32Yeah.
12:33It's not looking good.
12:34Cause the.
12:35But you know what the Bucs want.
12:36The Bucs want.
12:37The Bucs want.
12:38All your picks.
12:39All your picks.
12:40And all your young players.
12:43And that's why I think the Warriors.
12:45Are in the cat bird seat this week.
12:47Because you know what the Warriors can say.
12:49If you.
12:50Because they are a glass for all the picks.
12:51And all the young players.
12:53Cool.
12:54Out일�uge.
12:55You got it.
12:56Yep.
12:58Sure, where do we go?
13:00Please sign.
13:01And I don't think there's any other NBA team
13:02that feels that way.
13:03I don't know if there's any of the
13:05NBA team that has the picks first and foremost.
13:07That's also correct.
13:08I would imagine there are a bunch of
13:10teams that have better young players,
13:11but the Bucs are going to want both.
13:14They're going to want
13:15unless they can get two really elite,
13:17great young players and
13:20I don't know if a team like that would
13:22want to do away with a player like that.
13:24And
13:25I'm thinking about just off the top of my head,
13:26Cade Cunningham.
13:27Sure.
13:27A guy who now got the rookie.
13:30Max extension and he's phenomenal,
13:31but Detroit's not going to want to
13:33get rid of a 25.
13:35five-year-old Cade for Giannis.
13:36And then my bet,
13:37because people will bring up the Spurs,
13:39could they put a
13:40better package together than the Warriors
13:42eventually come summer?
13:44There's no question.
13:45Of course they could.
13:46Harper, Vassell,
13:47they could put together a package.
13:50That's way better.
13:51Here's the issue.
13:51I don't think the Spurs want to do that.
13:53The Spurs are
13:55right there.
13:56They're right there right now.
13:58And are set up to
14:00to be right there
14:01for a good number of years.
14:03If you then
14:04just take
14:05all those assets
14:06and turn it into Giannis,
14:07you're kind of more going in the
14:09no, no, no, we
14:10need to win right now.
14:11We need to win this year
14:12and next year
14:13and then that's it.
14:14I don't think this
14:15the Spurs want to do it that way.
14:17The Warriors do.
14:19The Warriors do.
14:20Again, I think this is a fit.
14:23I think it's a fit for the Warriors.
14:25I think with what they can offer,
14:26it's a pretty good fit for the Bucs.
14:29There's only one.
14:30The question that remains,
14:31is it a good fit for Giannis?
14:33That's up to him.
14:35And we don't have that answer yet.
14:36Well, the other question honestly is
14:38can the Bucs get more
14:40if they wait
14:40and that is something
14:42that's unknowable right now
14:44because we're not
14:45to the summer?
14:45Define more.
14:46More would be a team
14:48giving you the same amount of picks
14:50picks that might be better picks
14:51because they're a worse team.
14:53Better, younger players than...
14:55What the Warriors would theoretically offer
14:57if it's Kaminga, Pods, and Will Richards.
15:00For example,
15:01is there another team
15:02that has three equally priced,
15:04better...
15:05young players?
15:06Probably.
15:06The answer's possibly.
15:08I think Miami...
15:10But the harm in waiting
15:12as we've seen in life
15:13is...
15:15you've got no idea
15:15what's coming up
15:16around the corner.
15:17I don't know
15:17who's going to get hurt.
15:18I don't know
15:19whose goals...
15:20Things are going to change
15:20because then you're waiting
15:22to see how teams do.
15:23Like, for instance,
15:24what...
15:25What if the Spurs are like,
15:26hey, don't do it right now.
15:28We've got something
15:29for you this summer.
15:30Okay, great.
15:31We'll wait.
15:31And then the Spurs win a ring.
15:33And then they go...
15:35Actually, never mind.
15:36Never mind.
15:37We're good.
15:38That can happen.
15:39Yep.
15:40That's why I do think
15:41there is the possibility
15:42that the Bucs go,
15:44you know what?
15:45Bird in hand.
15:46Let's just do this right now.
15:47The Warriors are offering
15:48the entire tank.
15:50Let's do it right now.
15:51What's up, Randy?
15:52What do you got?
15:52Well, I was going to ask you guys.
15:53I know we had brought
15:54this piece of...
15:55to sound up somewhat recently,
15:56but I think back to the summer,
15:57I think it was on Tom...
16:00Colbert's YouTube show,
16:01but Steve Kerr came on
16:02and essentially was talking about...
16:03It might have even been about...
16:05Giannis vaguely,
16:06but just in general,
16:06another big swing.
16:08And I think the word that he used...
16:10was it would be foolish
16:11to trade all of our future assets
16:13for that.
16:14I know that back then...
16:15that was a healthy Jimmy Butler
16:16and the expectation
16:17that they could be
16:18relatively competitive this year.
16:20and next,
16:20but does that one injury
16:22just change the entire calculus
16:23about the next 10...
16:25years of Warriors basketball?
16:26For me, it does.
16:27Entirely.
16:28Like, it's just an entirely
16:28different situation.
16:29Well, I...
16:30that's about, like,
16:30for me,
16:31I don't want to speak for you.
16:32For me,
16:32it's about 80% to 90% of it.
16:35The other side to it is,
16:37you know,
16:37back then,
16:38the Kaminga situation,
16:40was a little bit different
16:41than it is now.
16:44And...
16:45Also, again,
16:46that was sort of vague
16:47in terms of who you'd go get.
16:50This is now specific
16:51and you're talking about
16:52someone who is just barely
16:54on the other side of the...
16:55Yeah, for me,
16:56it did make the biggest change
16:58in how you're going
16:58to approach it.
16:59And it doesn't...
17:00It doesn't have to.
17:00You can have that injury happen
17:02and think,
17:02ah, heck, bad luck.
17:04Let's just do something
17:04with it.
17:05with Kaminga now.
17:06Get something now
17:07and get into the offseason.
17:08Get a little bit better.
17:09And Jimmy comes...
17:10back and that's
17:10what we're going
17:10to try to do.
17:11Or you get news
17:12that Giannis is now
17:14interested in...
17:15being elsewhere
17:15and you've had your eyes
17:17on the Greek freak
17:17for a long time
17:18and honestly...
17:20this moment is now
17:21when you have
17:21the best chance to do it
17:23because you've got
17:24a contract that...
17:25that can be attractive
17:26to Milwaukee
17:26in that it would be
17:28expiring next year
17:29and if they...
17:30you want to get younger
17:30cheaper eventually
17:32and get picks aplenty
17:33well then this becomes...
17:35an appetizing thing
17:36for Milwaukee
17:36if they like
17:38Jonathan Kaminga.
17:39And they do.
17:40They do.
17:41I wonder how much.
17:42I don't know how much.
17:43They do.
17:43They're at least intrigued.
17:45I don't know if they love him
17:46or like him
17:47or whatever.
17:47They're intrigued.
17:48They are one of the teams
17:49that's on the...
17:50the good side of the fence.
17:52I can confirm that
17:54and they did have some...
17:55conversations last year
17:57and all that
17:57or in the offseason I mean.
18:00So 888-957-9570
18:02before we go back
18:03to the phones
18:03I just want to say
18:03this really quick.
18:05the one concern I do have
18:06is surrounding Draymond Green.
18:09I don't know where...
18:10where he factors into all this.
18:11I don't know if he ends up
18:12in the trade.
18:12I think that's unlikely.
18:15But I have two things
18:16that I wonder about
18:17assuming he's still here
18:18and if the Warriors
18:19were able to...
18:20to pull off Giannis.
18:21I think the two of them
18:22on the court together
18:23is challenging.
18:25I think that's challenging.
18:26Who's five?
18:26Who's four?
18:27Who's...
18:28Who's guarding who?
18:29Neither...
18:30Neither one of you are...
18:31No one's worried about you
18:32shooting threes.
18:33I think there's some issues
18:34there.
18:35And then also
18:36just the power structure
18:37of the Warriors organization.
18:40Like, isn't it obvious
18:41over the last five years
18:43that Draymond's got...
18:45A little too much.
18:47A little too much.
18:48That's all I'll say.
18:50Like, he's earned a lot.
18:52But, you know,
18:52whether it's from the punch,
18:54the case...
18:55the J.D.,
18:55the this, that, the other...
18:57I wonder about...
19:00other stars wanting to pair up
19:02with...
19:03Forget Steph.
19:05Draymond.
19:05Because of the organizational
19:07power structure.
19:08Well, it's not only that,
19:09it's just the way...
19:10He is a very strong personality.
19:12And so, you know,
19:13if you're Steph,
19:14you've been...
19:15with Draymond
19:15almost your entire career.
19:17And so you get it
19:18and you understand
19:19when things happen.
19:20Whether it's, you know,
19:21an on-court blow-up
19:23or he gets ejected
19:24or he gets a tech...
19:24Whatever.
19:25Whatever has happened
19:26with Draymond,
19:26Steph's seen it.
19:27He's been there.
19:28He's done it.
19:29And he understands that...
19:30For a long time,
19:31the positives have outweighed
19:32the negatives,
19:32but for Giannis,
19:33that would be a fresh...
19:35experience and I don't know
19:36how he would react to that
19:38and I don't know,
19:39you know,
19:39if Draymond...
19:40Draymond would have to be
19:40a part of the deal
19:41going back,
19:42it'd be great for me,
19:44ideally,
19:44if...
19:45if it was Kaminga
19:45and Draymond
19:46and Pods
19:48and maybe Will Ritch...
19:50and the picks
19:51and then you get Giannis
19:52because then you'd have
19:53Giannis, Jimmy, and Steph.
19:54That would be the...
19:55ideal.
19:55That one's tough,
19:56but yeah,
19:57I hear you on that.
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