00:00Somehow, those who are given a vote when it comes to
00:05the Pro Football Hall of Fame, do not believe that
00:10Bill Belichick is a First Ballot Hall of Famer.
00:15It's not even a joke of a world.
00:17Time to get a new committee in.
00:19Turn it over.
00:20Come on.
00:21What are we doing here?
00:22No, it's...
00:23They gotta figure something out.
00:24It's...
00:25I was looking at the list of who gets the votes and
00:30I'm sorry.
00:31Like, if it were me, if I...
00:35I woke up today and I were Roger Goodell or an owner in the NFL...
00:40It would be coaches.
00:42It would be former coaches and former players.
00:45Yep.
00:46Who get to vote.
00:48Not some beat...
00:50A writer from Des Moines.
00:51Right.
00:52Who has a grudge against this person.
00:55Or that person.
00:56Like, for instance, Wiggy.
00:57Mm-hmm.
00:58Uh...
00:59She has a...
01:00She has a vote.
01:01How do you think your girl, Mary Kay Cabot, votes?
01:05Uh...
01:06When it comes to Bill Belichick being...
01:07Oh, that's simple.
01:08Denied!
01:09So...
01:10I'm not...
01:10There were 10.
01:11Glassless.
01:1210 of those that get the vote.
01:13Come on.
01:14Don't believe the...
01:15Bill Belichick, first time ballot, is worthy of the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
01:20It's crazy.
01:21But I'm sorry, even if you are a beat writer or work in media and you're...
01:25Deciding to use a personal grudge against him.
01:27We dealt with him for three years every Monday and...
01:30I personally loved it.
01:32And he did not make things comfortable.
01:34I was anxious every single day.
01:35Every single time.
01:36It doesn't change the fact that he is a Hall of Famer.
01:38Right.
01:39Who cares?
01:40Like, the fact that...
01:40These people can use any type of personal grudge because what?
01:43He wasn't nice to you?
01:44He didn't give you an...
01:45One answer you wanted.
01:46He gave you just a one-word answer.
01:48So you're gonna hold that against him?
01:49Yeah, I...
01:50I also think in a lot of cases, it's about the cheatings.
01:55Stuff, and about teaching him a lesson.
01:58That's stupid.
01:59And...
02:00I actually...
02:00I think a lot of it, I don't know what the percentage is, is that...
02:05Tom left and won right away.
02:06And we had all thought it was Bill, or at least many of the writers thought it was Bill.
02:10Who created this whole thing.
02:12And then you have this divorce created because...
02:15The coach wanted it to happen.
02:17And then you have Tom in Tampa winning, going to another...
02:20Winning another playoff game.
02:21Winning divisions.
02:22And Bill Belichick making the playoffs once.
02:25In getting blown out.
02:26And now not coaching the NFL.
02:28I think that has a big...
02:30A big amount to do with it.
02:31So they don't listen when...
02:33When you hear Tom Brady and he's...
02:35Almost brought to tears.
02:37Describing what Bill Belichick did for him.
02:40As a player.
02:41And...
02:42And...
02:43When it came to that...
02:44That relationship...
02:45That he had.
02:46The coaching that he got from Bill Belichick.
02:49How it was everything.
02:50They don't listen to that?
02:51That's stupid.
02:52Tom says a lot of things.
02:53He says that 90% of what he says isn't true.
02:55He's like crying during that.
02:56Oh.
02:57Yeah.
02:58It's stupid.
02:59Like I don't care if they were...
03:00If it was Brady and Belichick and he didn't win again.
03:04Listen...
03:05Um...
03:06I don't care about that stuff.
03:07I care about what you did for the organization.
03:10I don't care what your political beliefs are.
03:12I don't care what you did off the field.
03:14I care about...
03:15You know what you were.
03:16And whatever that role is that you know the voters are voting for.
03:20Whether it's a player or a coach.
03:22And when you look at Bill Belichick, there's no way...
03:25On God's green earth or anybody anywhere in this universe where you go...
03:30This guy is in a first ballot hall of famer.
03:34He won...
03:35Six of them.
03:36Six as a head coach.
03:37He won six as a head coach.
03:39Yes.
03:40And...
03:40There's...
03:41There's absolutely no way that he...
03:43That he doesn't belong there.
03:45And...
03:45It's...
03:46Stupid.
03:47It's...
03:48It...
03:49They gotta figure a way out where the...
03:50Those who don't have the grudge stuff or those who...
03:54Uh...
03:55Who actually played the game are the ones who are making the decision about who gets in
04:00and who dies.
04:00Right.
04:01But you know what the people that will say?
04:02The nerds that don't play the game, that write the articles every...
04:05They'll say,
04:06Well, these guys don't watch as much as we watch.
04:08They don't know as much as we...
04:10We know when it comes to the...
04:11That's dumb.
04:12Yeah.
04:13Well, I know that, but that's what they'll say because they write...
04:15They write all these articles.
04:16They're...
04:17We're in the locker rooms every day.
04:18We're the beat writers.
04:19We're the ones with the boots on.
04:20The boots on the ground.
04:21It's just, to me, all this does is show...
04:25What a joke the Hall of Fame is, whether it's guys who get...
04:30There's a guy in there that you look at and go,
04:31Wait a second.
04:32Why is this guy a Hall of Famer?
04:33Or, in this case, Bill...
04:35Belichick, who's a first ballot Hall of Famer, not getting in.
04:38That would be like...
04:39I mean, he's in the same category.
04:40It's Tom Brady.
04:41Can you imagine if this was Tom Brady?
04:43What we would be doing?
04:44Oh, I can't imagine.
04:45And if they're like,
04:46Well, you know, his first three Super Bowls were because of Bill Belichick,
04:49and then blah, blah, blah, blah.
04:50Well, then you'd have four after.
04:51I don't know.
04:52No, I know that, but it would still be...
04:53We would still be looking at it and going...
04:55Anybody who voted that he shouldn't be a first ballot Hall of Famer...
05:00It just really exposes what...
05:03I would love to hear...
05:05You're a real schmuck.
05:06I would love to know the names.
05:08The names and why.
05:09Explain that.
05:10They remain anonymous.
05:11I know.
05:12Yep.
05:13They cast their vote in the dark.
05:15And then they never have to be held accountable for it.
05:18Internet is narrowing it down pretty much.
05:20Pretty...
05:21Pretty good though.
05:22Yeah.
05:23Although...
05:24There are some who...
05:25Were immediate suspects who are denying it.
05:28Right.
05:29So...
05:30I do love the...
05:30The irony though of Bill Belichick demanding an explanation after a bad outcome given his
05:34entire...
05:35career of refusing to give an explanation after a bad outcome to the media.
05:38But...
05:39Wait a minute.
05:40Has he...
05:40He demanded an explanation?
05:41Yes.
05:42What?
05:43Well, the Belichick Bobos out there have...
05:44Oh, oh, oh, the...
05:45The...
05:45Bobos.
05:46Yeah.
05:47Okay.
05:48Well, I...
05:49Let me write to be...
05:50To be clear at the start, Curtis.
05:51Because I...
05:50I'm...
05:51I'm hearing this in your voice.
05:52Do you believe that he should not be a first ballot Hall of Famer?
05:54Oh, absolutely.
05:55He should.
05:55That should be a first ballot Hall of Famer.
05:56Okay.
05:57All right.
05:58Okay.
05:59Good.
06:00I wish they would.
06:01Like the people...
06:02And I think you're right.
06:00It should be...
06:01You know...
06:02And I've seen it a few times.
06:03It should be how they do...
06:05To the...
06:06Uh...
06:07College football rank.
06:08And I think sometimes they actually...
06:10Like video it where you get to see them in the room...
06:13The...
06:14Disputing...
06:15Why he should...
06:16And why...
06:17We should actually see this.
06:18The NFL, they want to make money?
06:19No, they're not...
06:20They're not gonna do...
06:21They're not gonna do that.
06:22Why hold these people accountable?
06:23Let me...
06:24The way they do it now...
06:25I feel like it's...
06:26It's a scene out of Eyes Wide Shut with...
06:29With Tom Cruise and...
06:30Nicole Kidman.
06:31The movie.
06:32Where they have the robes on...
06:33Yeah.
06:34And probably nothing underneath.
06:35They probably won't come...
06:35Mando in those robes.
06:36And they just roll in...
06:38You know...
06:39Cast their...
06:40Ballot.
06:41And then they say...
06:42Well, it wasn't me.
06:43I...
06:44Not me.
06:45My question is...
06:45When crap's gonna get in now?
06:46Yeah.
06:47And that will be the single dumbest...
06:49Election...
06:50In the...
06:50History of Sports.
06:51Because...
06:52If you're not gonna let...
06:53Bill Belichick in...
06:54Because...
06:55Because of whatever.
06:56The Spygate...
06:57Whatever.
06:58Then the guy that...
06:59Went to Goodell...
07:00And...
07:00Demanded they...
07:01Get rid of the tapes...
07:02That they clear Bill Belichick's name...
07:04That made it his life.
07:05To give Bill Belichick another chance...
07:07Gets in.
07:08Do you think...
07:09Does that make sense to anybody?
07:10I...
07:10I think he gets in because he's been added...
07:12He...
07:13He's been up for it a number of times.
07:14Right?
07:15So that will be...
07:16You know...
07:17The reasoning...
07:18Why...
07:19He'll ultimately get in.
07:20I think...
07:20It's...
07:21Like I said...
07:22I wish there was a way for...
07:23Them...
07:24To...
07:25You know...
07:25People...
07:26If you're gonna be a voter...
07:27Have enough...
07:28Balls...
07:29Whether you're...
07:30Or...
07:30Cops...
07:31Whether you're a man or a female...
07:32That's voting...
07:33To say...
07:34Here's why I didn't...
07:35Vote for Bill Belichick.
07:36If you're one of those ten...
07:37Get on X today...
07:38Cause you love X...
07:39And say...
07:40I didn't vote for him...
07:41And here's my reason why...
07:42I would...
07:43I would have more respect for you...
07:44In that case...
07:45Than I do...
07:46Behind...
07:47A shield...
07:48This is Bill from Boston...
07:49Bill...
07:50This morning...
07:51I look...
07:52Honest question...
07:53If you just nullify...
07:54Bill Belichick's...
07:55Career...
07:56By not putting him in...
07:57First ballot...
07:58How do you give...
07:59Brady the same...
08:00Player...
08:01If all of his career...
08:02Was with Bill Belichick...
08:03So Brady can't be a...
08:04First ballot...
08:05Hall of Famer...
08:05Now you're saying...
08:06It's really not the NFL...
08:07Hall of Fame...
08:08It's 50 guys...
08:09Like these people...
08:10Well...
08:10There was an argument...
08:11Well...
08:12There's two different things Bill...
08:13There's Bill's record without Tom...
08:14And then there's Tom's record without...
08:15Bill...
08:16And that would be why he got in...
08:17Over Bill Belichick...
08:18But there's Tom's record without Bill...
08:20Put him in the Hall of Fame...
08:21First ballot...
08:22Well...
08:23It's three years without him...
08:24And then one...
08:25One Super Bowl...
08:26So...
08:27I mean I guess...
08:28Yeah...
08:29But...
08:30Nullify Belichick...
08:30It's all gone...
08:31So Brady's career is gone...
08:32Without Belichick...
08:33I mean there's a pretty...
08:34How'd Brady go in?
08:35He's not the goat anymore guys...
08:37Pretty...
08:38Pretty interesting...
08:39Text...
08:40Moments ago...
08:41Which was that...
08:42If you're gonna keep Bill Belichick out...
08:45Because of Spygate...
08:48For a year...
08:49Which is what the...
08:50Yeah...
08:50Suggestion is that they're trying to do...
08:52Is to punish him...
08:53Are you then gonna keep Tom...
08:55Brady out...
08:56For a year...
08:57Because of the flight game...
08:58Like...
08:59Right...
09:00That's a good question...
09:01Yeah...
09:02I would think that...
09:03He would...
09:04Unfortunately...
09:05He would...
09:05Come to the same type of treatment...
09:07Because you know...
09:08They're gonna think he was part of that...
09:09Right...
09:10And I think he was part of that...
09:11Which...
09:12The reality is...
09:13The punishment for the flight game...
09:14Was what it was...
09:15Because the NFL...
09:15The NFL owners were so pissed...
09:16At what happened to Kraft...
09:17In the...
09:18Spygate case...
09:19That they had...
09:20They'll put the hammer down...
09:21On Deflategate...
09:22Yeah...
09:23I don't think anybody...
09:24That watches the NFL...
09:25No...
09:25No...
09:26I don't think it's about...
09:27Them being...
09:28The similarities between the two...
09:29I just think it's between...
09:30It's the two...
09:31You know...
09:32I'm just using the word...
09:33Crimes that were committed...
09:34In the world...
09:35All the sports...
09:36Right...
09:37You know...
09:38Whether it was...
09:39The severity was...
09:40It's like...
09:41You know...
09:42Rob...
09:40It's like...
09:41Robbing a bank...
09:42And robbing a convenience store...
09:43You know...
09:44One might be a little bit...
09:45More than the other...
09:46But there's still...
09:45The crime is still...
09:46Robbery at the end of the day...
09:47I just look at this...
09:48And I go...
09:49This is...
09:50The dumbest thing...
09:51That I ever...
09:52Heard in my life...
09:53You know...
09:54Like...
09:55And I'm...
09:55Like...
09:56I'm under the thing...
09:57Like...
09:58Why is this person there?
09:59Alright...
10:00It's too late...
10:00watered down or whatever but the people that we know are like instant hall of famers when you go
10:05when when Mahomes's career is done you don't have to say well
10:09it
10:10he by the way was on x last night and said that it's
10:15insane that that's what he said Patrick Mahomes said insane that Bill Belichick is not there
10:20when Andy Reid retires hall of fame yeah I don't I don't have
10:25to think about it I don't have to like it instant I think you don't have to think about it when it
10:28comes to Bill Belichick
10:30that's why it's so crazy and Patrick Mahomes is part of my lead this morning because he's not the only person who spoke
10:35out about it to show how absolutely dumb everybody looks that voted on this
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