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00:00Who did he threaten and who did he harass?
00:02My whole family.
00:03He had moved out.
00:05They had a disturbance.
00:06Your daughter?
00:07Correct.
00:08Wrong.
00:09We had.
00:10A few issues.
00:11He decided he wanted to leave.
00:13If they don't get along anymore, that's their .
00:15You've got to stay out of your daughter's business.
00:17And if you don't, you're foolish.
00:19This.
00:20This is Judy Justice.
00:25You've got to be on Twitter.
00:26Just eat.
00:27Just eat.
00:28Just eat.
00:28Just eat.
00:29Just eat.
00:30Just eat.
00:30Just eat.
00:31Just eat.
00:33Just eat.
00:34Just eat.
00:34Just eat.
00:34Just eat.
00:35I love to thank you guys.
00:36Great.
00:36I love to meet you too.
00:37And they do not eat me too.
00:38Delicious and WWW pro around whatever just happened.
00:39And she won't ask.
00:40Just don't don't perform.
00:42I will make you prove to yourself anyway either.
00:43Give a saw it.
00:44I will keep up.
00:45And they're back for you too.
00:47Just say near the bushfire.
00:47And this person everyone?
00:48I willтоящ hard.
00:49not forget to start my fuhr.
00:50Bye.
00:51Maybe it's on the yard.
00:52Ask your friend.
00:52Judge, case 4010, Clemens Mosley v. Counsel.
00:57You're welcome.
00:57Miss Mosley, that's your daughter.
01:00That's my best friend.
01:02Best friend.
01:03Your daughter is not here.
01:04My daughter is with the...
01:05There.
01:06She's with the...
01:07Defendant.
01:07Correct.
01:08Interesting.
01:09They have two children together.
01:12One.
01:12A little girl?
01:13Yes, ma'am.
01:14Your complaint alleges, I actually thought that...
01:17that they were not together anymore.
01:19We're not.
01:20You're not?
01:20No.
01:21Okay.
01:22Just clarifying, it is your claim that Mr. Counsel...
01:27Stole.
01:28Stole.
01:29Two things.
01:30The baby is a year old.
01:32One year old.
01:33You claim that you put into the baby's ears.
01:37some little diamond studs to keep her recently pierced ears open.
01:42Correct.
01:43And the first thing that you claim is that the defendant...
01:47took the baby, really without permission, and returned her...
01:52without the earrings.
01:53Correct.
01:54So you want him to pay for the earrings.
01:55Correct.
01:56And the next...
01:57The next thing you say is that somehow he took a computer that...
02:02belonged to you.
02:03Correct.
02:04You go into a litany of things that happened between...
02:07your daughter and Mr. Counsel, who were no longer together, but who were together.
02:12That happened a couple of years ago that caused their separation.
02:15Correct.
02:16I'm not interested.
02:17I'm not interested in that.
02:18At all.
02:19Okay.
02:20That's none of your business.
02:21Correct.
02:22Here.
02:23That has to...
02:22nothing to do with your counseling your daughter or discussing it with your daughter.
02:25Well, that has nothing to do with me.
02:27Now, at the time that the baby's ears were pierced, were your daughter...
02:32and...
02:33you're not married.
02:34Yes, we're married.
02:35Well, your daughter and son-in-law...
02:37living together?
02:38I personally don't know.
02:40Yes.
02:41Were you living together?
02:42Yes.
02:42Yes, ma'am.
02:43Who took her to have her ears pierced?
02:45Me and my wife.
02:46Okay.
02:47Do you remember when that was?
02:48I would say...
02:49Jeez.
02:52February?
02:53Of this year?
02:54Of this year?
02:55Yes, ma'am.
02:56And did you see your granddaughter...
02:57regularly?
02:58Not while they were together.
02:59And when did they separate?
03:00I want to say...
03:02end of school year, maybe June?
03:04Right.
03:05You started living with my mom?
03:06Wrong.
03:07When?
03:08April.
03:09And on what date did you put these earrings in?
03:12your granddaughter's ears?
03:14It may have been September the 1st.
03:17It was...
03:18Did you do that with her father's permission?
03:20No.
03:21It wasn't.
03:22Did you do that...
03:22September?
03:23I'm sorry.
03:24It was August.
03:25August.
03:26Did you do it with...
03:27her father's permission?
03:28No.
03:29Did you do it with her mother's permission?
03:31Yes.
03:32Okay.
03:33Is that correct?
03:34Yes, ma'am.
03:35Tell me the circumstances surrounding that.
03:37Jamisha and the baby came to my home and I was in my room laying in the bed.
03:41She brought the baby to...
03:42see me.
03:43I was talking, playing with the baby.
03:44Jamisha was saying what she wanted to do for the babies first.
03:47Her birthday.
03:48Who was saying?
03:49Jamisha.
03:50Your daughter?
03:51My daughter.
03:52Was saying what she wanted to...
03:52do for the baby's first birthday.
03:53And she wanted to take pictures with the baby when the baby was there.
03:57she had no earrings in her ear.
03:59So I said if you want to take pictures, let her take pictures.
04:02I reached in my jury box and I said put these in her ear.
04:05And I said please don't let anyone take...
04:07she can wear them until she takes pictures, until you get her some new...
04:12And I said I had no earrings.
04:13Okay.
04:14And?
04:15And that was like the first...
04:17August the first.
04:18Was August one?
04:19It was maybe August one.
04:20It was a couple days before the baby...
04:21Okay.
04:22Okay.
04:23Just a second.
04:24So that was August first.
04:25And tell me the circumstances surrounding...
04:27when your granddaughter went with her father.
04:29I was at work and I was...
04:32It was a Friday.
04:33I got off from work.
04:34I came to my mom's house to see the baby.
04:36So...
04:37So your daughter was living with the baby at your mother's house?
04:40At my mother's home.
04:41Not your...
04:42My mom's home.
04:43Okay.
04:44I got off from work.
04:45I came by.
04:46I had to wear the baby.
04:47They said that the father had came and taken the baby.
04:50Okay.
04:51So that day...
04:52Which was on...
04:53Give me the date again.
04:54Um...
04:55She said I took the baby.
04:56She said I took the baby.
04:57Shhh.
04:58Shhh.
04:59Shhh.
05:00Shhh.
05:01On August the 4th?
05:02Okay.
05:02So three days later, the baby went with her father.
05:05The baby went with the father.
05:07It...
05:07May have been August the 2nd.
05:08Okay.
05:09You put the earrings on August 1st.
05:11I put the...
05:12The earrings in the ear a couple days before her birthday.
05:15So I'm...
05:16If I...
05:17August the 1st.
05:17Yes.
05:18And then she went with her father.
05:19On what day?
05:20She went with her father.
05:21It was a fright.
05:22On the Friday.
05:23Do you remember the date, Mr. Counsel?
05:24Yes, ma'am.
05:25What was the date?
05:26July.
05:27August 15th.
05:28Well, maybe you have your days wrong.
05:29Somebody has their days wrong.
05:30It's August.
05:31It was July 15th.
05:32Well, if she put the earrings in her ears on August 1st, how could they...
05:37go missing on July 15th?
05:38Exactly.
05:39Yeah.
05:40I have...
05:41I didn't even see my daughter August 1st.
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06:35Latoya Clemons-Moseley claims her ex-son-in-law, Ronald Council.
06:40Owes for the cost of diamond earrings, a computer, and harassment.
06:45Do you remember when your mom put the earrings in your daughter's ears?
06:49Yes, I don't recall.
06:50I don't recall the exact date.
06:51But it was before her birthday.
06:53Yeah, it was before her birthday.
06:54And when's her birthday?
06:55August 3rd.
06:56On August 3rd, did she have the earrings in?
06:59August 3rd, she had the earrings.
07:00So you took pictures at her birthday party with the earrings in?
07:04Mm-hmm.
07:05Uh-huh, it's not an answer.
07:06Yes, ma'am.
07:07Okay.
07:08Would you tell me when the...
07:09I don't...
07:10I don't remember, like I said, the exact dates, but if...
07:15I don't know if she have the police report, but everything should be in the police report.
07:19So the date that...
07:20She put the earrings in, it was like the same week that he came and took the baby.
07:25The earrings didn't come back with her in her ear.
07:28Can I see the police report, please?
07:30I don't know.
07:35What is this police report?
07:39What does this have to do with...
07:40with August 2024?
07:42Maybe there's different things connected.
07:45What?
07:46It may have happened in July.
07:47There may be different reports connected.
07:48So the date that he took the...
07:50the baby, we called the police that day.
07:52So they put two of the same case numbers...
07:55on the same one.
07:56This all has to do with incidents that occurred a year ago, in 2023.
08:00Not 2024.
08:02That's what this says.
08:03August 4th, 2023.
08:05Yeah, this has nothing to do with anything in this case.
08:07Would you return this?
08:10To her, please.
08:13Do you see what I'm talking about, Ms.
08:15mostly?
08:16Yes.
08:17Okay.
08:18This is the report that's attached from July.
08:19It started with July 3rd.
08:20May I see it, please?
08:21May I see it, please?
08:25May I see it, please?
08:26May I see it, please.
08:27May I see it, please.
08:28May I see it, please!
08:29May I see it, please.
08:30This is when city is shirtless.
08:31May I see it, but I've made it, really.
08:32It may not be...
08:34May I see it, please.
08:35May I see it, please.
08:37May I see it, please.
08:38цветless, or be with white,
08:41May I see it, to cover.
08:54You said you put the earrings in her ears on August 1st.
08:57I did.
08:58What does that have to do?
08:59What does that have to do with him on July 13th?
09:01July comes before August.
09:03Correct.
09:04So?
09:04The dates were mixed up.
09:05I know I put it in before her birthday.
09:07It's a lot of mixed up.
09:08Okay.
09:08It's a lot.
09:09It's a lot of mixed up.
09:10It is.
09:11Okay.
09:12So you're mixed up with regard to the dates.
09:13Correct.
09:14Now, it's interesting, since they separated, have you been seeing your granddaughter?
09:19Correct.
09:20Where do you see her?
09:21At my mom's residence.
09:22Not at yours?
09:23No.
09:24Does your grandmother see her?
09:24Do you want to take care of the baby?
09:25She helped me.
09:26She helps you.
09:27You live with her.
09:28Yes, ma'am.
09:29Okay.
09:29And does your child's father come to visit her?
09:32If he called me and told me, but...
09:34We haven't been talking, so...
09:36The day that he took the baby, that was unexpected.
09:39That's in July.
09:40Okay.
09:41Okay.
09:42And you haven't been to court yet to determine...
09:44Are you in custody of the child?
09:45We do have a custody agreement, yes.
09:47You have a custody agreement?
09:48Yes.
09:49That was...
09:49We sent it into when?
09:50What month?
09:51We got it in May.
09:52I'd like to see it.
09:54There you have it.
09:55Do you know what it is, Mr. Counsel?
09:58Not...
09:59To my knowledge.
10:00No, ma'am.
10:01You have a custody agreement that he signed?
10:02No.
10:03A lawyer gave...
10:04Because he has to complete classes, and until he can complete the...
10:09To the classes, he's supposed to be with like a...
10:14Someone in between the both of us to get the baby or see the baby.
10:18You're talking about...
10:19Some supervisor.
10:20Yes.
10:21Well, did a judge sign off on that agreement?
10:23Yes, ma'am.
10:24Yes, ma'am.
10:24Do you remember that, Mr. Counsel?
10:26Yes, and I remember it being closed out.
10:28What's closed out?
10:29The case was closed out.
10:30What does that mean?
10:31As far as the custody.
10:32So the restraining order or whatever, it was closed.
10:34Now...
10:35I don't care about the restraining order.
10:36Right, that was the reason for the custody agreement.
10:38You're not following...
10:39Answering my question.
10:40If you just answered my questions, we'll be a lot better off.
10:43In July...
10:44When you...
10:45Just for my own information, it has nothing to do with the earrings.
10:48When you...
10:49When you took the baby in July from her grandmother's house, had there been a...
10:54custody agreement that was made into an order by a judge.
10:59Where you had supervised visitation.
11:01Yes.
11:02That's an answer.
11:03Okay.
11:04So when you went to the grandmother's house...
11:07Right.
11:08And said, I'm coming to...
11:09To see my daughter.
11:10And you took her.
11:11That was not authorized.
11:12Yes.
11:13I'm allowed to have her.
11:14I didn't say you weren't allowed to have her.
11:16I had a supervisor with me, my sister.
11:18Were you so...
11:19Supposed to have had the baby for that day to visit?
11:22Yes, ma'am.
11:23You were?
11:24Yes.
11:25Is that...
11:24Correct.
11:25I wasn't aware.
11:26I wasn't aware.
11:27They just basically...
11:29I didn't know anything about anyone coming.
11:32So it was like a surprise to me.
11:34You didn't arrange it with her?
11:36So the thing is that she has me blocked.
11:39I have no contact with her.
11:40So the answer is you didn't contact her?
11:42No, ma'am.
11:43I had no way to.
11:44Okay.
11:45Did you contact her grandmother?
11:46No, ma'am.
11:47So you just went to the grandmother's house?
11:49Yes, ma'am.
11:50Okay.
11:51Probably not a smart thing to do.
11:52Do you understand?
11:53Yes, ma'am.
11:54Okay.
11:54Now, you know anything about these earrings?
11:56Not really.
11:57I mean, when I went on...
11:59I got my daughter.
12:00I don't remember her having earrings.
12:01I mean, I was just excited to see my daughter.
12:03So...
12:04We went out to...
12:05Well, first I went and bought her something to put on because she didn't have on any clothes.
12:09We went.
12:10I got her dressed.
12:11And then me, my sister...
12:12Well, she had clothes, but you probably took her out too quick.
12:14I'm sure she had clothes at her mother's where she stays.
12:17Right.
12:18Okay.
12:19No.
12:19So you just took her without the clothes?
12:20Yes.
12:21Okay.
12:22Keep going.
12:23We left.
12:24We went to Candy One.
12:24Wonderland.
12:25And she played around a little while.
12:27When we left, I was...
12:29Getting ready to go like...
12:30I pretty much had her to get her prepared for her birthday, like take...
12:34Taking her shopping and buying things that I wanted to have her for her birthday.
12:37And earrings was one of them because the...
12:39The earrings that I bought for her for Easter, she had pulled them out like within a...
12:44In a day.
12:45She's had like three pair of earrings already this year.
12:47So now the ones that she had in her ear...
12:49That would probably be the fourth pair of earrings.
12:51But I mean, she's a one-year-old.
12:53She's a baby.
12:54Just a second.
12:54She had...
12:55She had earrings on when you took her because you say in your answer unless...
12:59She misspoke, sir.
13:01That when you left the Candy Wonderland with...
13:04Your daughter, I noticed that her earrings weren't in her ears.
13:09Right.
13:10What earrings?
13:11I bought her earrings for Easter.
13:12Those earrings?
13:13Yes, ma'am.
13:14Yes, ma'am.
13:15OK.
13:16I figure she lost them.
13:17I took her to get new ones and bought her gold.
13:19Oops.
13:20Correct.
13:21OK.
13:22So the earrings that you were talking about here were the earrings that...
13:24That you bought her for Easter.
13:25Yes, ma'am.
13:26That she didn't have any earrings.
13:28Oh.
13:29What...
13:29What kind of earrings did your husband buy his daughter for Easter?
13:32They were...
13:33The...
13:34Studs?
13:35No.
13:36They were hoops.
13:37No, no, no.
13:38Hoops were later.
13:39I know.
13:40I bought her hoops for Easter.
13:41She has two pair of hoops.
13:42Then she has studs.
13:43So we...
13:44We did have like a few pair of earrings.
13:46I don't recall which ones.
13:47I bought the earrings three times.
13:49OK.
13:50You don't have these studs of hers, do you?
13:52No, ma'am.
13:53OK.
13:54You have any...
13:54Proof videos, studs of yours.
13:55Grandparents...
13:59With their grandbabies because they maintain reasonable relationships with both parents.
14:04Even if they're divorced.
14:06And if you don't, you're foolish.
14:09Where do they grow up?
14:12And even if you don't...
14:13Come on.
14:14LaToya Clement
14:19is accusing her ex-son-in-law, Ronald Council, of...
14:24stealing diamond earrings and a computer.
14:27She also claims Ronald threatened her.
14:29And her family.
14:30You don't have these studs of hers, do you?
14:33No, ma'am.
14:34Okay.
14:34Do you have any proof that he has the studs of yours?
14:36No.
14:37No, I don't.
14:38No.
14:39I didn't think...
14:39I think so.
14:40Okay.
14:41So a one-year-old either took out the studs before or after or whatever.
14:43I had...
14:44no sense whatsoever that he stole your studs that you put in a one-year-old.
14:48Now let's move on.
14:49Go to the next thing.
14:50What is this computer nonsense you're talking about?
14:52My daughter was...
14:53and Bronna was...
14:54living together.
14:55He had moved out.
14:57They had a disturbance, whatever, which caused...
14:59also took her in labor.
15:00She went into early labor.
15:02What's the computer?
15:03Get to the computer.
15:04The lab.
15:04The laptop was at her home when she went in labor.
15:07When did you give your daughter the computer?
15:09The laptop was at Jamesha's home because my son, my oldest son...
15:14was spending the night with her.
15:15I asked you...
15:16I did not give Jamesha a laptop.
15:18Okay.
15:19My son was at Jamesha's home with a laptop.
15:22Okay.
15:23How old is your son?
15:24My son at the time was 19.
15:26He's an adult.
15:27So that was his laptop.
15:29It was my laptop.
15:30Well, you say it was your laptop, but it was in your 19-year-old son's...
15:34possession.
15:35He was visiting your sister.
15:36Correct.
15:37Does your mother have a laptop?
15:38Yes, ma'am.
15:39Does your brother have a laptop?
15:41I guess they share it.
15:42They have a family laptop.
15:43They share...
15:44When your brother came to your house, which she's talking about, this is a year ago...
15:49Uh-huh.
15:50Because she was talking about when the baby was born.
15:51Okay.
15:52So it's a year and months ago.
15:53Do you...
15:54Do you remember your brother leaving a laptop in your house?
15:56I left them there.
15:57So he just...
15:58He dropped...
15:59He dropped me off to the hospital.
16:00I don't remember what all he had, but he did have a bag with a few things in it.
16:04Who?
16:05My brother.
16:06Okay.
16:07You know anything about your husband taking...
16:09Was he taking a laptop?
16:10My husband took everything we had in the house the day I went in...
16:14In the hospital, we had a few issues.
16:16He decided he wanted to leave.
16:18He took everything out there.
16:19Everything out the house.
16:20So his stuff...
16:21Was that including the laptop?
16:22Everything out the house.
16:23I asked...
16:24Was the laptop in the house when you went into labor?
16:26Yes.
16:27It was...
16:28Just...
16:29Yes, ma'am.
16:29It's really interesting.
16:30Your brother came to visit you the day before.
16:32Yes.
16:33You say he and his mother share a...
16:34His laptop.
16:35So why, when he left, didn't he take his laptop?
16:37Because he never left my house.
16:39When I was...
16:39When I was in the hospital, my brother was still at my house.
16:41I let him stay in the house.
16:42Oh.
16:43Oh, fuck.
16:44Fine.
16:45Yes.
16:46Did you take the laptop from the house?
16:47No, ma'am.
16:48Do you have any proof he took the laptop?
16:49From your house?
16:50Well, I have proof that he took everything from the house.
16:52I'm not asking about everything.
16:53Not the laptop.
16:54No.
16:55He says he didn't take it.
16:56Your son was home.
16:57With our...
16:59All of his stuff, including his laptop.
17:01When she went to the hospital.
17:02Who took you to the hospital?
17:03Never.
17:04My brother dropped me off.
17:05Because...
17:06Your brother...
17:07Just a second.
17:08Just a second.
17:09Yes.
17:10Your brother dropped me off.
17:09He dropped you off at the hospital.
17:10Yes, ma'am.
17:11Okay.
17:12And then he went back to your house?
17:13Yes.
17:14And he was going to stay...
17:14Did he stay in your house?
17:15Yes.
17:16My husband decided he didn't want to be there anymore.
17:18You told me that, right?
17:19Yes.
17:19Yes.
17:20You told me that already.
17:21All right.
17:22So I have two nonsense things.
17:23I have a little set of studs for...
17:24a year old.
17:25And a laptop that is either owned by you or owned by your son.
17:29And neither one of you have proof that he took it.
17:32He says he didn't.
17:33I have.
17:34Everything out of the home.
17:35And the police did not allow my son to go back in there to...
17:39retrieve his items.
17:40Just a second.
17:41That doesn't say he took...
17:42It doesn't.
17:43I'm going to read that if it's...
17:44It specifically refers to a computer.
17:46It does not.
17:47It does not.
17:48I didn't think so.
17:49Anything else?
17:50Threats.
17:51Punitive damages for threats and harassment.
17:54Who did he threaten and who did he harass?
17:56My whole family.
17:57I'm not interested in your whole family.
17:59I'm interested in you.
18:00You're the plaintiff.
18:01Me and my family.
18:02I'm not interested in your family.
18:03Tell me how he...
18:04threatened and harassed you.
18:07When?
18:08Specific date?
18:09Time.
18:10Place.
18:11August 3rd, 2023?
18:12Just a second.
18:13August 3rd.
18:14What time?
18:15When we were at the home.
18:16What home?
18:17I'm not sure of the time.
18:18At whose home?
18:19August 3rd.
18:20My daughters.
18:21What day was the baby on?
18:22Definitely.
18:23She was born on the 3rd.
18:24August 3rd.
18:25You called me at midnight August 3rd.
18:26Are you talking August 3rd of 2023?
18:28I'm not interested.
18:29I'm interested in anything that happened August 3rd, 2023, madam.
18:31You've got to stay out of your daughter's business.
18:34Stay out of her business.
18:35Okay.
18:36Because if you don't stay out of her business, what's going to happen is, and I can see that
18:39you adore this little grandbaby.
18:41Is it your first grandchild?
18:42No.
18:43Okay.
18:44But I can see...
18:44I can see you adore her.
18:45Because what's going to happen is, if you interfere with two people, unfortunately...
18:49in this country, grandparents do not have any legal right, absent, severe...
18:54circumstance, to have custody of or visit with their grandchildren, that's the law.
18:59And so grandparents visit with their grandbabies because they maintain reasonable...
19:04relationships with both parents, even if they're divorced, and if you don't...
19:09you're foolish.
19:10If you don't, you're foolish.
19:12If they don't get along anymore, that's their...
19:14business.
19:15They created a baby.
19:16You would like to be in the baby's life.
19:17It's ridiculous for you to sue.
19:19Him over nonsense.
19:21Stay out of their business.
19:22We're done.
19:24This court is adjourned.
19:29It had nothing to do with about visiting the baby.
19:33It was about...
19:34The earrings that my husband bought me.
19:35I believe she made the right choice.
19:37I mean, just like she said, you got to...
19:39They're out of people's business.
19:40They were having issues of their own.
19:43I wasn't here for their issues.
19:44I was here regarding my items.
19:46You know, I mean, all of this situation is pretty much from...
19:49other people in our business.
19:50We married.
19:51Let us handle our household.
19:52I just wanted my earrings back.
19:54I got a daughter.
19:55What am I gonna steal from my daughter for?
19:57I mean, I'll steal from my wife if that's the case.
19:59Me and my daughter's relationship is getting better now that they're separated.
20:02Try to be mutual.
20:03I love them both.
20:04You know, I just don't know.
20:08So I know it wasn't...
20:09the main point of the case that the plaintiff grandmother having issues with seeing her grandchild.
20:14But I think that was the biggest takeaway from the whole case is that is it worth risking...
20:19your ability to see a grandchild because, as you said, grandparents don't have legal rights to visitation.
20:24unless very strict circumstances are met.
20:27So is it worth the thousand...
20:29or two thousand dollars for earrings and a laptop that you have no proof that he actually...
20:34took in the first place?
20:35I probably didn't.
20:36And probably didn't.
20:37He did not strike me as the kind...
20:39that would do that.
20:40He seems more like the type that just wanted out of the situation.
20:43Wanted out.
20:44He's not the type that would be spiteful and take earrings and a laptop on the way out.
20:48But even...
20:49So she had no proof of either.
20:51And it is a big risk if you already have an acrimony...
20:54or you have an acrimony...
20:55or you have a nice relationship with a son-in-law or an ex-son-in-law...
20:57who's the parent of your grandchild.
20:59I would...
21:00I would probably just eat that for...
21:02You can't...
21:03But not make a...
21:04I'd like to keep the relationship in order to maintain my relationship with the grandchild.
21:08Yeah.
21:09We know.
21:10Family.
21:11We have a big family.
21:12So we know how important that is to keep it all...
21:14open.
21:15What I found interesting was even though they are...
21:19divorcing.
21:20She still sat on that side of the table.
21:23Sure.
21:24And...
21:24seeing that...
21:26Grandma should realize...
21:27Mm-hmm.
21:28...whatever it is...
21:29you want to see that little girl...
21:31Mm-hmm.
21:32Don't get involved.
21:33Yeah.
21:34With...
21:34their domestic...
21:35stuff.
21:36Mm-hmm.
21:37Just not smart.
21:38Are you...
21:39having a family dispute?
21:40Go to JudyJustice.tv.
21:44Have a good day.
21:45Yeah.
21:46Yeah.
21:47Yeah.
21:48Yeah.
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