We REFUSE to Go Easy on CJ Stroud after Yesterday

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Seth and Sean address a listener who thinks they're being to hard on CJ Stroud after his performance yesterday and discuss CJ's perceived lack of "heart" in that game.

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00:00Somebody real quick tweeted at me, said,

00:04you guys do know with your platform the rhetoric you create for these players.

00:08You make people love them or hate them with your analysis on them,

00:11then everyone wonders why fan bases are all over the place.

00:14This is what I'm going to tell you about my –

00:16This is the first time I've ever been this critical of C.J. Stroud, ever.

00:20His entire time since the Texans drafted him,

00:23I have not been this irritated, annoyed, critical of C.J. Stroud.

00:28Same.

00:28So it's not to create drama.

00:30It's not for clicks.

00:31It's because it's the way I freaking see it.

00:33I think I have a certain level of credibility,

00:35and people don't look at me as a guy that's trying to muckrake

00:39and just get ratings or anything.

00:42This is the way I feel.

00:44So you can take your soft-ass opinion about how we need to be nicer to C.J.

00:49and go cry in a pillow because that's a soft-ass take.

00:53That's just – C.J. did what he did.

00:56The last two weeks, he hasn't had a good season this year.

01:01He's done some things that I've given him much, much credit for in learning how to manage games better

01:07and learning how to understand situations and not hurt his football team.

01:10All of that has gone flying out the window these last two weeks in the playoffs,

01:15in cold weather, in bad weather conditions, all of those things.

01:20So, no, this is not rhetoric.

01:22This is the way I see it.

01:24And you can either deny it and just want to be a fluffy, soft, know-nothing idiot about it,

01:34or you can acknowledge the reality in front of you.

01:36Well, that's insulting to the listenership as well, as if we're some sort of mind-effers out there

01:46that just crawl into people's brains and say, this will be your opinion on everything.

01:50If there's a weakness Sean and I have, it's that we're probably not dramatic enough.

01:54We're probably not vicious.

01:56We just like having a good time.

01:58That's right.

01:58We just enjoy it, having fun talking to each other for a few hours every morning.

02:03That is a weakness in our industry, but we live with it.

02:07We're like, ah, what are you, life's too short.

02:10And it managed to succeed through it, I would say, too.

02:14So, yeah, people like it.

02:15And people don't like getting in their car.

02:17A lot of times people don't like getting in their cars in the morning

02:19and hearing the vitriol that we've had this morning on the show.

02:22It doesn't mean that we won't be vitriolic when we need to.

02:25And this morning is a morning where I think the two of us are being completely honest with how we feel,

02:30and I think we always are, about how we feel about C.J. Stroud.

02:33But your point is a good one.

02:34We've probably, certainly on this station, been the easiest on C.J. Stroud, I think,

02:40throughout his struggles over the last year and a half.

02:43And I still see the upside in C.J. Stroud,

02:46but he's got to hammer some of these things you're about to hear LaShawn McCoy talk about.

02:49Yeah, let's do this.

02:50Let's set this up.

02:51This is LaShawn McCoy on the Speakeasy podcast with Emmanuel Ocho after the game last night.

02:58I ain't seen no fight.

02:59I ain't seen no fight in C.J. Stroud.

03:01I see this playing the game, playing bad, looking sorry for itself.

03:04Yeah.

03:05Another thing I'm like, yo, I hate a player that's moping around the game when it's your fault.

03:10Mmm, country.

03:11Now, sometimes I don't like that.

03:12Now, wide receivers, some times do it.

03:14Running backs do it.

03:15We ain't getting the ball.

03:16So, that's kind of the coach.

03:17Man, that's maybe the quarterback.

03:19Well, you're the quarterback and the ball's in your hands.

03:21Why you moping?

03:22You the one getting all the picks.

03:23I'm sitting around looking at him like, what the?

03:24Man, it's a teammate, a real teammate.

03:27Go next to him.

03:28Hey, man, snap out of this.

03:29Snap out like a girl and play tough.

03:31We need you.

03:32No, we also need you.

03:32Sometimes in that game, he was moping, and you the problem.

03:38Boy, you're right, Seth.

03:39This is, this, the C.J. body language thing was a localized storyline.

03:45It was something that we mostly saw here that people outside of Houston didn't really,

03:51you know, they would point out when C.J. was, was not performing well.

03:55I am very anxious to see today how the national media, how the analysts, former players, especially,

04:03especially former players on the offensive side of the ball, like LaShawn McCoy, who

04:07kind of acknowledges the personality differences between different positions, quarterbacks versus

04:12others.

04:12This is going to be a very interesting referendum here over the next 24 hours on C.J.

04:17Stroud as the guy.

04:18There's, it's, it's, it's unacceptable.

04:22It's just not, you need to be a leader of men.

04:25I mean, you need to be at the very least a hyper, like a hyper focused, don't care.

04:30Even if you're more of a kind of a, you can be an Eli Manning type who's unaffected by

04:36the pressure or his own bad decisions at times.

04:38I guess maybe that's the common, common thing in the mental toughness that it requires to

04:43be a quarterback, similar to the mental toughness that it takes to be a cornerback.

04:47It's that ability to really F up really, really badly, excuse my abbreviated swear word, and

04:55just come out and play like nothing at all ever happened, you know, just to forget it

05:01and move on.

05:01And man, there's times where just C.J.

05:06is emo.

05:07He, it's, and it's, it doesn't inspire confidence.

05:10It doesn't inspire trust.

05:13It doesn't do any of those things.

05:16It, you're, it feels like you're working in a company where the, the boss's kid is all of a

05:22sudden in charge and he doesn't know what he's doing.

05:25And like, it's just, it's, I, and I don't know what's to be done about it.

05:29I mean, he's been in the NFL for three years now at moping.

05:32That's the fourth time I heard moping.

05:33I heard it from three different non-Texans fans who texted me last night.

05:37Maybe Troy used the word on the broadcast or something.

05:40And that's why moping was so consistently used by various people around America.

05:44I wondered, I didn't, I don't remember hearing that, but boy, if he did, that's notable.

05:49I don't know.

05:50I didn't hear it either.

05:51I just, it was alarming to me how many people were consistently saying the same thing that

05:55we've said before is man, he gets kind of mopey sometimes.

05:57Yeah.

05:58Yeah.

05:58LaShawn McCoy would go on to say, I don't know, maybe it's a California thing.

06:02All right.

06:02I did.

06:03Yeah.

06:03You got to either be Tom Brady, California, or you could be Josh Rosen, California.

06:07Yeah, I guess.

06:08Um, I, this is to me is, is we're going to kind of wrap things up in our part here.

06:13And then, uh, Seth and I are going to handle Texans Monday until, uh, Mark and John get back

06:18from the airport.

06:19The flight just, the, their flight just landed a short time ago.

06:22The scariest thing to me, and this deserves more than the 20 seconds we have is in the

06:26NFL, you either have or have not when it comes to quarterbacks.

06:30And the scary thing is we thought we were a have for the last two and a half years.

06:34And now it's feeling like the pendulum could be swinging towards a have not.

06:39And that's terrifying.

06:40If you're an NFL fan.

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