00:00so uh what about what about your kids how old were they when you got into the industry they
00:05were a little bit younger um my oldest was I want to say 14 at the time maybe uh his friends
00:14actually knew and I think that he kind of knew but he didn't he kept saying it wasn't my mom
00:19and then I was just honest with him and you know they've done pretty well now that we've talked
00:27about it I feel like you should definitely do that if you have kids talking about it so they
00:31know how to react towards kids because again if you give energy to something it you know if they
00:37see that that affects them and they want to pick on them then it gets the problem gets bigger right
00:42so now that they don't you know they know and they know how to handle it they don't talk about it with
00:47their friends their friends you know don't ask now they don't know I mean people back home obviously
00:51do but now that they're here and in school and stuff nobody knows so yeah that you know yeah
00:59um was that a hard conversation kind of my youngest are girls and they didn't really understand
01:06they were yeah until they probably got a little like three years down the road I'd say
01:12how old were they at the time shoot my youngest was maybe six yeah five or six because it's like
01:20one of those things I've had this conversation with so many other workers who are parents like
01:24the age appropriate way to tell your kids you know how do you tell them right um obviously when
01:32they're very young they don't know what adult entertainment is right um I mean you probably
01:37know that my parents were no when I was growing yeah so I grew up like so this is something I have
01:42experience with my mom and my dad and that picture frame right next to you um yeah they were uh my
01:50mom was one of like the first female wow so she worked for playboy hustler penthouse like all that
01:56stuff super cool so and my dad helped her run the business so my parents were in before I was even
02:01born I'm the oldest so you know I always get that question like what was it like to grow up you know
02:06with parents who were and you know it was for me it was it didn't bother me at all I mean obviously
02:14here I am here I am now um but you know because that wasn't something that as a kid I didn't really
02:22understand what it was and I remember I think the first way that my parents explained to it was they
02:26said mommy and daddy make movies and take pictures for grown-ups yeah and you're not a grown-up and that
02:32was like the extent of all I knew and um you know the back office was off limits to me and I didn't
02:37really question it that much and then eventually like I figured it out but I don't remember like
02:41this moment of being like oh this is what it is yeah it just kind of I don't know it's it's like
02:47normalcy is relative right so that's how I feel too yeah like I had a very normal childhood my parents
02:54were wonderful to me they were there for me they were present they loved me they supported me
02:58um they encouraged me they you know like put me in extracurricular activities and like I did
03:04cotillion which is hilarious um so you know it wasn't like a big thing for me and I definitely like
03:11you know had those issues at school where kids made fun of me or they knew about it but it didn't
03:17affect me like in a in a big way and I've talked to other people who've had similar experiences but
03:24their parents hid it from them and lied to them for a very long time and then they found out in
03:29a really like traumatizing way and that's what I was afraid of damaging yeah I'm sure it could be
03:35yeah it's like you're lying you know you've been lying to me this whole time like who are you
03:39but it's hard it's such a hard conversation to have yeah because you're not doing anything illegal
03:44no right and you're making good money and you're providing for your family and you're being safe
03:50um but there's such a stigma around it yeah and it's you know a profession that's not appropriate
03:58for children so how do you explain to your children that it's something that you do it is it is tricky
04:03definitely yeah what advice would you give to other parents who are like maybe in a similar situation now
04:09and don't know how to tell their kids or when to tell their kids I mean it's definitely timing is
04:14probably everything like I said if if he hadn't told him I don't even know how I would have told him
04:19um but definitely should do like a one-on-one talk at some point so yeah even if you're just
04:27like you don't tell him you're having sex like you're acting in you know adult movies that you
04:32know you know something to let him it's hard do you wish that there was some kind of like literacy or
04:40like knowledge foundation of knowledge out there that parents like you could access to figure out how
04:45to have this conversation that would be their kids because there really isn't there isn't any
04:50information like you said so many people like judge you for it and put it out there such a bad thing
04:55that they don't know yeah like wait what you know yeah what I've found interesting since the you know
05:02since the internet and you know how it's taken over everything and all the kids are on it and kids
05:08accessing you know um adult content when they're underage there's been some like porn literacy
05:14uh organizations that have popped up and there was one woman that I interviewed in particular
05:20called Justine Angfonte and she actually does porn literacy for kids and when I say kids I mean like
05:28high school age um and it was really interesting because obviously she's not like showing them porn like
05:33she's not engaging in anything like illegal like she does this at schools um if the parents give
05:38permission for her to do so but she you know teaches kind of kids I think about the context of adult
05:44adult entertainment um in a way that is appropriate to them and that they like kind of understand at
05:51their age and it's such like a tricky such tricky waters to navigate and I'm always admiring people who
05:58are like trying to find a solution to talking to kids about this kind of stuff rather than just
06:04pretending it doesn't exist or just wanting to have the entire porn industry shut down because that's
06:10just like not happening yeah worst case scenario it's getting you know pushed underground and then
06:16it's illegal yeah bigger yeah right kind of crazy yeah so it's like trying to address you know the
06:21issue like in a responsible way and it's like yeah it's a tough controversial definitely is yeah
06:27yeah for sure
06:28yeah
06:28yeah
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