00:00Our daughter and our son-in-law and four of her children, so four of our grandchildren,
00:09were here and they didn't understand what was happening.
00:13Anyway, they were dodging bullets and then they fled and somehow found refuge in some
00:19lovely Australian person's home for a few hours.
00:24And these four days on, I guess, where is your head at? How are you feeling?
00:31Confused, hurt, pain. Also somewhat uplifted. Yesterday I attended three funerals and it was extremely hard.
00:40And at the end of the day, I met Matilda's family in their home, which is a story.
00:46And I said to my wife, Esther, I don't understand. You know, I was so down.
00:51And when I left, because they were such beautiful people and loving, even though there was a lot of tears,
00:57I felt uplifted through their strength.
01:01What do you make of the, I guess, the politics of it? The calls, for example, for a royal commission,
01:08for stricter gun laws, for clamping down on protests, or on certain protests. What's your view there?
01:16I think we need respect. I think we need care, love. And respect means to understand the other people, the other person,
01:27and to appreciate that Jewish people for thousands of years have, with all the programs and all the terrible forms of anti-Semitism,
01:37there's something there. And it's real. And if people would just take a moment and think, you know, what am I doing?
01:46Do I need to cross a bridge, a harbour bridge or the Opera House, and say terrible, terrible things?
01:53I love to run. And I just ran, you know, twice I've been accosted. I, the end of last year's summer, I was running,
02:03and after an hour and a half of a jog, I came back, and a group of Middle Eastern Australians,
02:09they went to go to swim at Coogee Beach, and they saw and they screamed out,
02:14oh, you're a Jew, you know, however they screamed and swore at me, and then they went with their hand to say,
02:21like, they want to kill me. And then it happened just a few days before this, this time, the second time was just
02:27youngsters, you know, teenagers, and they, you know, they had bikes on, and I was just finishing a jog,
02:33and something similar. So it's happening, it happens, I've had it all my life. But in the most part, Australians are beautiful people.
02:41My mother was a Holocaust Auschwitz survivor, and she loved Australia, she just passed away a few years back.
02:48And I asked Mum, Mum, you know, Australia is such a beautiful, and she said, after the war, Australians were so good to her,
02:57and they were just amazingly good in every which way. But then I said to her, some months before she passed,
03:05I asked, do you think anything like the terrible events of what happened in Europe could ever happen here?
03:12And she looked and thought, even though the Australians are such beautiful people, I'm 100% sure it's possible.
03:18So she would be terribly sad, like all of us.
03:22What do you make of, I guess, the political fight that's broken out, the opposition accusing the government of not having done enough
03:29to take the concerns about anti-Semitism of the community seriously enough?
03:35Yeah, I do feel that. You know, going back to Matilda's father and mother, they said the words,
03:42Australia let my Matilda down. They cried. So if the Royal Commission came out six months ago, just do the right thing.
03:52Prime Minister, you're my Prime Minister. Show you care. Come here.
03:57Jewish people are not going to heckle you or be disrespectful. That's not our nature.
04:02Maybe one or two, most of us might feel something hurt, and we are in pain.
04:08But you're our Prime Minister. Go to the funerals. Attend.
04:13Please don't use the excuse of, you weren't invited. No one's invited.
04:18There's not one person in the world who is ever invited to a funeral.
04:21Funeral is from the heart. You attend a funeral because the heart is pounding.
04:25You're grieving. You feel sorrow. You want to show your care.
04:28That's what we want. Do the right thing. You're still my Prime Minister.
04:32This is your watch. Please do the right thing.
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