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00:00How many times in your career did you guys ever get confused for the Verve?
00:03I think we were in Omaha and there was a little girl, she's four years old,
00:07and she made this beautiful, elaborate sign, bittersweet symphony.
00:11We thought about covering it, which is not a bad idea now.
00:15Rock, metal, prog, and everything in between.
00:18Welcome to this episode of Talkin' Rock with Meltdown.
00:22Don't forget to follow the audio-only Talkin' Rock podcast on all podcast platforms.
00:26And now, it's time for today's conversation.
00:30Here's Meltdown.
00:31Brian, good to see you again. How's things, man?
00:33Oh, everything's great. Living the dream, living in a basement.
00:38As you can see.
00:40Yeah, no, it looks great. That's a good-looking basement, I might add.
00:43You know, my daughter lives down here. She's 15, so she loves it down here
00:47because she's got her own bathroom, and I love it down here because she's down here.
00:50Yeah.
00:5115-year-old daughter, that's right. You stay in the basement all you want, honey.
00:54I know. And I got a 24-year-old, and my friends always tell me, they go,
00:57but don't you want your kids to move out? I'm like, I like when my kids are there.
01:00I don't mind them being around, so.
01:02I like when the kids are around, too, but, you know, every once in a while,
01:05Daddy's going to have a date, and he needs the kids to get the hell out.
01:09Yeah, there you go. Fair enough.
01:11Well, you're coming to town here, District 142 on December 12th.
01:15Chris Barron from Spin Doctors, of course, yourself, John Hampson from Nine Days,
01:20and J.R. Richards from Dishwalla.
01:21I never met him, but the newer singer in Dishwalla was kind of funny.
01:26Last summer, I think it was, or 2024.
01:28I don't know if you've ever had this happen to you,
01:30but I was supposed to introduce the guys from Dishwalla on stage at 9 o'clock,
01:34and there were so many sound issues and so many things going on.
01:37They didn't go on stage until 10.30 at an outdoor, like, outdoor fair-type setting.
01:42That doesn't surprise me a bit, man.
01:44It's a rock and roll.
01:45That's just the way it goes, so what are you going to do?
01:48Yeah.
01:49So you're going to do this story of a song thing.
01:52Now, tell me about this.
01:53What do you know about this night here on December 12th at District 142?
01:57Well, we've done it three, I want to say four times now, Chris and I,
02:01and we were with Vinny from Sponge, but Vinny wasn't available this time,
02:05and also John Hampson, of course.
02:08It's a blast.
02:08The four of us just sit on the stage at the same time,
02:12and Chris will play Little Miss Can't Be Wrong and tell a story about it,
02:18and we'll sing backup harmonies and stuff,
02:21and then next will be J.R. playing Counting Blue Cars
02:25or any of his other songs, and we'll do the same thing
02:28and tell the story behind the songs.
02:31And I tell you what, each person plays about three or four songs,
02:35and it's a great night.
02:36It's a lot of laughs.
02:38Chris Barron's, you know, I don't know if you've ever interviewed him before
02:41or whatever, but he's hilarious, man.
02:43He's got so many great stories.
02:45And really, after the first one, he elevated everybody else's stories.
02:49It's like, okay, we get to talk about anything we want.
02:51And so, you know, I threw a few people under the bus, you know,
02:55and got big laughs, and, you know, it's just an absolute blast to do it, man.
03:01It's one of my favorite shows to put on these days, you know, so.
03:05Yeah, that's great.
03:06And so I didn't know all you guys were up there at the same time.
03:09I thought maybe you guys took turns,
03:10but all you guys are up there just kind of yucking it up
03:12and just kind of having fun.
03:13Yeah, so the laughs start, you know, backstage before we even go on, you know.
03:19I mean, there's a good two hours where we're just cutting up,
03:22and then we're like, hey, we should try this tonight, we should try this.
03:25And then once we get out there, it's like a Broadway show.
03:30That's unscripted, if you can imagine that.
03:34So it's a blast.
03:35People really seem to love it.
03:37That sounds awesome.
03:38So, yeah, like I said, that comes up at District 142 on December 12th.
03:42Have you been to a district yet since it opened three years ago?
03:45I have not.
03:46I have not.
03:47But I know the people behind it, and they're good people.
03:49Yeah, Julie and I have done a great job over there,
03:52and that's a really cool room to see a show in.
03:56Yeah, I'm looking forward to it.
03:58I saw some pictures online.
03:59It looks awesome.
04:00It looks perfect for this kind of thing.
04:01Now, you've said you've done this before.
04:03Where have you done this?
04:04We did it Long Island.
04:06On Long Island is the way they say it, I guess.
04:08On Long Island.
04:10The first time about a year ago, and that was fantastic.
04:14Packed house.
04:15You know, about 1,000 people show up to that.
04:17And then we just did, oh, my God, we just did three more of them recently.
04:22I can't even think of where we were.
04:24I'd have to look at my calendar and play so many shows.
04:27Have you been playing a lot of shows?
04:29Oh, my God, it's been crazy.
04:31Yeah.
04:31Last year, I played almost 200 shows with the Verve Pipe and Solo and speaking gigs as well.
04:36Next year, it looks pretty good, too.
04:39So, you know, things are going great.
04:42What kind of speaking gigs do you do?
04:45I talk about, you know, refocusing and rebranding and reconnecting.
04:50And because, you know, the Verve Pipe, we had an album called Underneath that was our big comeback after our terrible album we put out after the freshman album.
05:01And, you know, it was released on 9-11.
05:05And so how do you come back from that?
05:07And so, funny enough, it's all the financial industry people that love to have me come in.
05:13So, you know, I'll do UBS and Bank of America conferences and that kind of thing.
05:18And the reason they like it is because most times they get athletes to do it.
05:22But I go in, I tell my story.
05:23I've got a funny slideshow of the times we opened up for Kiss and that kind of thing, you know, and how ridiculous that was.
05:30And then I'll play a couple songs as well.
05:32So it really is about just refocusing and rebranding your business, you know.
05:37And it's, you know, I've done, yeah, I've done 300 or 400 of those now.
05:41Wow.
05:42It's going really well.
05:42It's going well as well.
05:43Tell me about opening for Kiss.
05:45I don't recall that.
05:45What year was that?
05:47That was when they first put the makeup back on in 1996.
05:51So they got all the original members back together.
05:53Remember the first one was at Tiger Stadium.
05:55That was with STP, right?
05:59And Sponge.
06:00And Sponge, that's right.
06:01It was with Allison Chains because Stone Town Pile's Scott Weiland was in rehab or something.
06:06That's right.
06:07That's right.
06:08And so after that one, we jumped on tour with them and did 30 dates all over the southern states.
06:15And then we flew to Europe with them.
06:17And that was a terrible gig, dude.
06:20Let me tell you something.
06:21I mean, Detroit was probably not a good example of what it was like, but when we, nobody knew who we were.
06:28You know, we didn't have, the freshman wasn't out.
06:30I think Photograph was just released.
06:32So nobody knew it.
06:34So imagine 20,000 people in any given city are so excited that KISS is getting back together with the original members of putting the makeup back on.
06:42It's going to be the spectacle.
06:43And 20,000 people buy tickets and 20,000 people drive to the arena and wait for two hours to see KISS in the arena.
06:49And then the lights go down.
06:51And 20,000 KISS fans roar in anticipation of finally seeing KISS.
06:55And the lights come up into some stupid band you've never heard of.
06:59We were that band, my friend.
07:01They were not nice to us at all.
07:03And I learned, I learned right away never to fear another crowd for the rest of my life.
07:07It was a great, great experience for that reason.
07:10I was, I've never afraid of another crowd, so.
07:13Yeah, I remember Jerry Cantrell one time told me that Ellison Chains earned their bones on that Clash of the Titans tour.
07:19I don't know if you remember that with the Slayer and Anthrax and Megadeth and Ellison Chains was hardly a, you know, they barely had a song on the radio at the time.
07:27Yeah.
07:27I guess you guys earned your bones on that KISS tour.
07:29We did.
07:30The funny thing is, is like, you know, Gene Simmons was great.
07:33He came backstage almost every show before, I mean, to our dressing room to talk to us.
07:38And I think he got a real kick out of us for whatever reason.
07:42And anyway, so he would give us encouragement.
07:44But after that first show, you know, we were so excited.
07:47We're on the side of the stage going, oh, my God, can you believe this?
07:49We're opening up for KISS.
07:50I was a huge KISS fan.
07:51And then when I stepped out on the stage and was, you know, with rain of booze and, you know, coins thrown at us, I was like, oh, no, this is what this is for 30 dates, you know.
08:04And Gene came back afterwards and he put his arm around me and he said, you know, don't take it to heart.
08:11Every single band that opens up for us gets booed unrelentlessly or relentlessly.
08:15And I was like, dude, that's something that we could have known before we signed on for 30 dates.
08:21But, you know, listen, the experience we got to go from being in a van to being in a tour bus following KISS around the country and then flying with them over to Europe.
08:30That part of it was great.
08:31Everything was great except the 30 minutes on stage.
08:36What did you do for the final show?
08:37Tell me you painted your face or something.
08:40Oh, my God.
08:40I've got it up on my YouTube page.
08:42So here's what I did.
08:44I cut out some big styrofoam teeth, fake teeth, and I did a Freddie Mercury impression.
08:51And I took my shirt off and I put a white towel on it and I sang acapella.
08:56I sang We Are the Champions to 20,000 Booing Germans.
09:00And that was the night that KISS said we could use the big video screens.
09:06And I knew it.
09:07And that's why I was like, I'm going to do something spectacular.
09:09And so I did that on the big video screens.
09:11And there was a look at one point on my face of pure joy.
09:16I was laughing at myself.
09:17I was just like, this is just, this is glorious to me right now.
09:21That it was just an F you to everybody that ever went to the KISS shows.
09:26So you can check that out on my TikTok.
09:28It's also up on my YouTube page.
09:29That is hysterical.
09:30So, I mean, the 15-year-old, 12, 15-year-old Brian Vander, our KISS fan, has to just be
09:36beside himself.
09:37Now you're on stage opening up for a band that you've watched since you were a kid.
09:41And the fans are booing.
09:42Yeah, exactly.
09:43And here's the other thing that, you know, a lot of people dress up like KISS in the audience.
09:48A lot of the guys.
09:49So you're out there and you've got 5,000 Gene Simmons and 5,000 Ace Freelys booing you.
09:56And they're all, you know, flipping you off at the same time.
09:59Talk about a surreal moment.
10:01Yeah.
10:02Jerry Cantrell told me when they were on stage at Tiger Stadium, you weren't at that show,
10:05were you?
10:06I wasn't, no.
10:07So when they were on stage at that Tiger Stadium show, he said, Lane, you know, because
10:10like you said, everybody's dressed up like a member of KISS.
10:13And at one point, Lane Staley looked over at him and said, how come no one's dressed like
10:16us?
10:17Yeah.
10:17How come nobody's dressed like Alice in Chains?
10:20That was so funny.
10:21Jerry had this guttural laugh and he goes, man, that dude was so funny.
10:25Did you ever get a chance to meet Lane Staley?
10:27Never.
10:27And that's the thing, you know, 30 years in this business, I've met, you know, a handful
10:32of people.
10:33I mean, you really, everybody tours so much.
10:36And the only time you get to see anybody is at radio festivals.
10:39That's when you get to see everybody and hang out.
10:41And, you know, I wasn't a big fan of radio festivals because, you know, fans of Duncan
10:47Sheik, you know, I mean, like fans of Skinny Puppy don't want to sit through a Duncan Sheik
10:52set, if you know what I mean, you know, but still the best part of the radio fest was
10:56backstage.
10:57It was always a blast.
10:58Yeah.
10:59It's funny because sometimes I talk to some of my friends in bands and I've met more rock
11:02stars than they have because of that fact.
11:04You guys are all.
11:05That's true.
11:05Yeah.
11:06It's true.
11:06And when I have a night off, the last thing I want to do is go to a show.
11:09I typically don't go to a show.
11:11I don't care if Paul McCartney's down the street and it's only a hundred people.
11:15There's a good chance.
11:16I'm not going to go see Paul McCartney.
11:18Come on.
11:19I mean, possibly.
11:23Hey, this is kind of a weird far out question, but how many times in your career did you guys
11:28ever get confused for the Verve?
11:30Every day.
11:31I was going to say, yeah, that had to be a commonplace thing, huh?
11:34No, no.
11:34It happens.
11:35It still happens every day on TikTok and we get tagged.
11:37I get tagged in all the Verve stuff.
11:39I get tagged, you know, we had people hold up signs that say, play bittersweet symphony.
11:46No, no, for real.
11:48And it's just like, I remember one time, I think we were in Omaha and there was a little
11:51girl, she's four years old and she made this beautiful, elaborate sign, bittersweet symphony.
11:56And I'm just like, oh, I just wanted to call her parents out and say, what is wrong with
12:02you?
12:03Now, we've thought about covering it, which is not a bad idea.
12:06Now, maybe we'll just cover it from now on.
12:09Oh my God.
12:10That's so funny.
12:11All right.
12:12Another crazy question for you.
12:13And I don't know.
12:14I don't know what your, you know, your connection with this is, but were you guys ever influenced
12:19by the Tragically Hip because you kind of have a little bit of a Tragically Hip vibe?
12:23I take that.
12:23I'm a fan.
12:25No, I haven't heard that one.
12:27I haven't heard that one.
12:28Yeah.
12:28Great band though.
12:29Great band.
12:29Yeah.
12:30Cause I can kind of, I can kind of hear the, the, the bands kind of intertwining, intermeshing
12:34just a little bit.
12:35Obviously they're, they're obviously, you know, Canadian and stuff and you guys are from
12:38Michigan.
12:38But I, I was, I was just curious if you'd ever, because they were around since the early 1990s.
12:43Yeah.
12:44Same.
12:44And we would cross paths on occasion as well.
12:46And we've got to, we've got to perform with them and see them as well.
12:49A great band, but no, I don't, we don't usually get that.
12:52I don't, I've never heard that before.
12:53So it doesn't mean it's not valid.
12:55Right.
12:56No, it's that's, you know, that is a compliment.
12:58Cause I'm a hip fan for sure.
13:01So people that are outside the state probably don't know, but you know, you've worked with
13:05Jeff Daniels and stuff, you know, here.
13:07And of course, you know, you guys are a Michigan institution.
13:09Jeff is as well.
13:11Tell me about working with Jeff.
13:12I was fantastic.
13:14He reached out to me after he saw a documentary my friend made on my house concert series called
13:19lawn chairs and living rooms.
13:20I played over 800 house concerts since 2008 and we made a documentary and he saw it, he
13:27loved it.
13:28And he contacted my agent and then we became fast friends.
13:31Cause I, you know, I knew he was a player.
13:33I said, we should write together.
13:34And we wrote a couple of verb pipe songs together.
13:36And then we decided to go in and make an album together.
13:39So we made an album of storytelling songs called simple truths.
13:43And in fact, I'm going to see him next week.
13:45You know, we've maintained a great friendship.
13:47He's got a, you know, his, his, his home in Chelsea is like a, like the Kennedy compound.
13:52I mean, he's got his, he's got his kid.
13:55He's got one half of the lake practically.
13:57He'd hate it that I'd be telling you this, but he's got, you know, his two sons that live
14:03on the compound with their wives.
14:05And I think his daughter's the only one that doesn't live there, but his grandkids, everybody's
14:08there.
14:08It's like the, it's like the Kennedys over there.
14:12And the guy's a great dad, man.
14:14I've, I've gone to him to ask advice on things and he's, you know, he's, he's fantastic.
14:19Cause all those kids are really, you know, they're not typical celebrity kids, you know,
14:23they're really grounded.
14:24Well, he's really grounded too.
14:25He's a Michigan guy, you know?
14:27Yeah.
14:27I think that a lot of his groundingness, if that's even a word, just comes from the fact
14:31that he's never really kind of left here.
14:33Yeah.
14:34He decided to stay here and not do the Hollywood thing and he made Hollywood come to them and
14:38listen, when you're that talented, the guy can do anything.
14:42When you're that talented, that's the way it should be for sure.
14:45That's great.
14:45You just brought this up playing in people's living rooms and stuff.
14:48I was going to ask you about that.
14:49That's a, that's an ingenious idea.
14:50I didn't realize how many you'd done, but tell people about the experience of playing
14:54in people's living rooms.
14:55People just contact you, your website or agent, or how does that work?
14:59Yeah.
14:59So it started out just, you know, I was, we were down and out, uh, my, it's my, now my
15:04ex and I, but you know, we didn't know where the money was going to come from.
15:08And, uh, and, uh, I had a fan reach out and she said, Hey, I wonder if you'd come play
15:13my birthday party.
15:14And I'm like, I'm kind of a rock star.
15:18You open up for kiss.
15:20Yeah, yeah, exactly.
15:21And she's like, yeah, I'll pay you $5,000.
15:24I'm like, what?
15:25Okay, no problem.
15:27And I went and it was awesome.
15:29She had her living room set up with 50 folding chairs.
15:31All of her family and friends were there.
15:33I was sitting in front of the fireplace.
15:34I played an hour's worth of songs.
15:37You know, she got to choose all the songs and I left there and I was like, I had a check
15:41for, you know, 5,000 in one pocket and I had, you know, 500 cash and merchandise sales.
15:47And I'm like, I've got, you know, 20,000 people on my mailing list.
15:52They all have birthdays.
15:54That's $20 million or whatever, you know, I about ran myself into the street or into
15:59the ditch.
16:00But then I sent an email out the next day.
16:01I just said, look, it's really hard to get booked.
16:03It's really hard.
16:04The music industry, you know, people were file sharing back then, you know, so book me into
16:08your home.
16:09We'll cut out the middleman.
16:10And I got, I sent that email out and within 24 hours, I booked 52 shows.
16:15And this was in 2008.
16:16Yeah.
16:16Where nobody really was doing house concerts.
16:19I'm not saying I'd been to the house concert, but it wasn't as popular as it is now.
16:23And I was like, oh my God, here's something.
16:25And then the next year I realized that I only have a guitar.
16:28I don't have to travel with a sound system.
16:30So I ended up booking 110 shows the next year go in the summer months alone, just going and
16:36doing two or three a day on the weekends.
16:38And I, I did that for years.
16:40And, you know, a lot of times you knock on the door, most times a knock on the door and
16:44I don't know who's behind the door.
16:46Cause I've just been going back and forth on email and my manager hated the idea.
16:50Cause he was like, you know, somebody could say there's going to be 50 people there and
16:53you're going to get to a place and it's just going to be a one woman in a wedding dress
16:58or something, but then she wants you to play the same song over and over and over as I was
17:03like, no, but that never happened.
17:05So as long as the check clears, I suppose you play to whoever's there, right?
17:10A hundred percent accurate.
17:11That is a hundred percent accurate.
17:13So I stopped doing them now.
17:14I don't do them nearly as much just because of the resurgence of the band and a lot of
17:19great stuff's going on, but I do them when I can do private shows.
17:22Now, have you done stuff with the Detroit rubbing alumni?
17:26Oh yeah.
17:26Many times, Joey, uh, you know, um, Joe Kosar is a great guy.
17:31He asked me to come play his golf tournaments.
17:33And then I play in his softball, uh, league, you know, his team, uh, to raise money for
17:38the Joe Kosar foundation, uh, he and McCarty, all those guys have been buddies for years now.
17:42I started doing that back in 2005 or 2006.
17:45That's an absolute blast too.
17:47And I'm not a, I'm not the hugest hockey fan.
17:50I've been, I mean, I like, I mean, I like hockey enough, but years ago I had to decide
17:54which I was watching too much sports.
17:55I'm like, all right, I'm going to pick one Detroit team.
17:58And this is 30 years ago.
18:00And I'm like, I'm going to pick the lions.
18:05And of course, last year and the year before, I'm like, Hey, it's finally paying off.
18:09And this year I'm like, ah, damn it.
18:11Yeah.
18:11Well, as we record this, uh, tonight could be do or die for them.
18:14And by the way, as we record this today, it's, uh, it's Vinny's birthday, by the way.
18:18Don't forget.
18:18Oh dude, it is.
18:19I got to text him.
18:21Thanks for that.
18:21Thanks for that tip.
18:22I got to upload Vinny a tip there, a text.
18:24So I tell you what, Brian, last thing here, I told you before we started, I talked to
18:28one of your friends from, uh, the movie rockstar for those that don't know you were in the
18:32movie rockstar with Mark Wahlberg and, uh, Jennifer Aniston.
18:34And, um, my friend is a blaze Elias.
18:37I was just with Zach wild, by the way, uh, with Zach and Darren McCarty a couple of weeks
18:41ago, as a matter of fact.
18:42And, um, but I didn't talk to him about rockstar.
18:44I don't believe, but blaze sent me a taxi says to, uh, to tell you, he says hello.
18:49And he says, how did you get the song colorful in the movie?
18:51And I just rewatched that clip with, uh, Mark and Jennifer and stuff.
18:54So tell us about that.
18:56Yeah.
18:56So they sent me a script and wanted me to write a Seattle last kind of freshman like ballad.
19:02And, uh, so I read the script, the movie at that point was called metal God.
19:06Cause it was about Judas priest.
19:08And, uh, then Judas priest wanted $50 million or something.
19:11And so they're like, well, we're just going to take Judas priest out of it and make our
19:14own movie and make up our own bands.
19:16Smart move, Hollywood.
19:17Uh, and so I read the script and I was like, oh, this guy's got, you know, two different
19:22personalities.
19:23Sometimes he says sometimes he's that.
19:25And that's why, you know, I ended up with a chorus of sometimes I'm colorful, sometimes
19:29I'm gray.
19:30And then I sent the song, the demo, uh, out to, oh, actually I auditioned.
19:35I brought the demo with me and I auditioned to be in the movie.
19:37I have a small part in the movie as well.
19:39And, uh, by the time I got back to the hotel, the director said, wow, this is awesome.
19:44I love this, which is always a great sign when the director calls you that day.
19:48And then I didn't hear anything for three months.
19:50And I was like, I've done enough auditions and stuff that I know if you don't hear anything
19:54within a couple of weeks, it's done, you know, you're out.
19:57And then all of a sudden I got the script at my door and it was called, it was a movie
20:00called rock star.
20:02And I'm like looking at this, I'm like, this is kind of familiar.
20:05And I'm thinking, oh, what do they want for me?
20:07Do they want rock and roll music?
20:08And then I look in the back of the script and they had printed my lyrics in the back of the
20:12script and I was like, I call my manager.
20:14I'm like, they freaking stole the song, dude.
20:18And he goes, hold on, hold on.
20:19Let me find out.
20:20He made a couple of calls and he told me, I got the part.
20:22They just, nobody told me, you know, cause production hadn't started yet.
20:26And I was like, all right, well, thank God.
20:27So that's how it ended up in the movie.
20:29And Mark Wahlberg championed that move or that song.
20:32He loved the song.
20:33And I remember when I first met him, he told me how much he loved it and he was learning
20:37it and he said that, uh, he's going to make sure that there's a lot of the song in the
20:42movie.
20:43Like, you know, not just going to be a minute.
20:44It's going to be a couple of minutes or maybe the whole song.
20:47And man, he was true to his word.
20:48What a great guy.
20:49He really, he really stuck up for that tune.
20:51So I, it's been, it's been a long time since I I've seen Blas.
20:55I saw him.
20:55We went to see Chris angel in October of 29 in Vegas.
21:00And he told me the story where he, he, they were in the parking lot, I guess, flyering
21:05cars in the movie, you know, rockstar.
21:07And he said he had his hand up on the car and somebody slammed his door, his hand in
21:10the, in the door.
21:11You know what I'm talking about?
21:12Oh no, I didn't even know that happened to him.
21:14Yeah.
21:14And so, and so this is the story I will be jealous of Blas for the rest of my life.
21:18But, uh, he says he, he just kind of kept his hand there until they said cut.
21:22And as soon as he said cut, he did, you know, he, he, he said Jennifer Aniston bandaged
21:28him up.
21:28Oh, perfect.
21:30Oh, bitch.
21:31I mean, that's perfect, right?
21:32She could bandage me up anytime, bro.
21:34My God.
21:34Yeah.
21:34Let's not, yeah.
21:35Let's not talk about Jennifer Aniston.
21:37We'll be here for six hours, but, uh, no doubt.
21:39We'll tell Blas hi if you text him back, you know?
21:42Oh yeah, for sure.
21:43Blas.
21:43Great guy.
21:44Yeah.
21:44Awesome.
21:44We had such a great time.
21:46I introduced him to Chris Angel.
21:47I'd never met either before.
21:48And, uh, Chris kind of held off the show until he met Blas.
21:51It was really cool.
21:52Actually.
21:52That was not only a great drummer, but slaughter was an amazing band.
21:57And then, you know, Blas played with Blue Grant, Blue Man Group for years.
22:00And so he's, he's a terrific guy.
22:02Now I think he's with TSO, right?
22:03Yep.
22:04Yep.
22:04Every single winter he's out in TSO, that's where he is right now.
22:06So I will just pass that along.
22:08Well, Brian, we'll cut you loose here.
22:09The, uh, a story of a song, District 142 on December 12th with, uh, Chris Barron from
22:15Spin Doctors, uh, yourself, John Hampson from, uh, Nine Days and J.R.
22:19Richards from Dishwalla.
22:21Dude, it's been fun.
22:22I'll catch it up with you.
22:22And, uh, I love the laughs and, uh, I can't wait to do it again sometime soon.
22:26Thanks, buddy.
22:27Thanks for having me on.
22:28Appreciate you.
22:29Yeah.
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