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00:00MUSIC
00:12Oh!
00:14Hello!
00:15Hello!
00:16Oh, thank you very much.
00:18Thank you so much.
00:19That's very kind of you.
00:21Hello, hello, and welcome to the show.
00:24Hey, everyone.
00:25It's only 12 days till Christmas.
00:28I know, and I have an early present.
00:31Five guests are chatting.
00:33Yeah, we've got a great lineup for you tonight singing for us later.
00:36It's the fabulous Jade, everybody.
00:40She'll be singing her latest single, Church.
00:42And it's another broad church on my sofa tonight.
00:45At just 18, he became the youngest fashion director
00:48of an international magazine
00:50before reshaping British Vogue as editor-in-chief.
00:53Now he's launching his own magazine, 72.
00:56It's Mr. Edward Enenville!
01:01Right, there he is now!
01:03Hello!
01:05Welcome to you, and welcome back.
01:08Have a seat.
01:09Thank you, Mr. Edward Enenville.
01:11This comedy genius has created iconic characters
01:14like Johnny English, Edmund Blackadder,
01:17and the one and only Mr. Bean.
01:19Now bringing us a battle of wits
01:21in the new Netflix series Man vs. Baby,
01:24it's the great Rowan Atkinson!
01:26Yay!
01:28Let's go!
01:30Let's go!
01:31Let's go!
01:32Let's go!
01:33Let's go!
01:34Let's go!
01:35Let's go!
01:36Let's go!
01:37Let's go!
01:38He's one of the most brilliant actors of his generation.
01:40The star of Wonka, sci-fi epic Dune,
01:43and the Bob Dylan biopic, A Complete Unknown.
01:46His latest film is called Marty Supreme.
01:49It's Timothy Chalamet!
01:52Thank you very much.
01:55Thank you very much.
01:56Happy to see you.
01:57Happy to see you too.
01:58Thank you very much.
02:00And she's the double Oscar-winning star of How It's End,
02:04Sense and Sensibility, Love Actually,
02:06and the fabulous Nanny McPhee.
02:08Now she's turning detective in Down Sematary Road.
02:11It's Dame Emma Thompson!
02:13The glammering Satana!
02:17It's Paragonsus Ball!
02:19Oh!
02:20You're great!
02:21I say hello to everybody!
02:22Oh!
02:23You're darling!
02:24You're darling!
02:25You're darling!
02:26You're darling!
02:27You're darling!
02:28Ooh!
02:29Ooh!
02:30Ooh!
02:31Fashion down the end.
02:32Fashion down the end.
02:33Hello, everyone.
02:34Welcome back to everybody.
02:35It's a rare time.
02:37And lots of connections on the couch tonight.
02:40Of course Emma Thompson was in the pages of British Vogue.
02:44Yes.
02:45Yes.
02:46Did you enjoy your fashion suit?
02:47Looking like an elderly owner of a brothel in Berlin in the 1920s.
02:51Thanks a lot, Edward!
02:53Now, you might think she's exaggerating.
02:56We've got the picture.
02:57We've got a picture.
02:58Here we go.
02:59That's Tonto, isn't it?
03:01Yeah.
03:02Did you pick these clothes, Edward?
03:04She was supposed to be Queen Boudicca.
03:06Really?
03:07To me?
03:08Meanwhile, there's fire engines going by and people are going,
03:12What have you come in?
03:14It's very nice.
03:16Very nice.
03:17And now, Timothy, of course, you worked with the great Ron Atkinson.
03:20Yes, on Wonka.
03:21Yes, on Wonka.
03:22Yes, on Wonka.
03:23Say it like this, Wonka.
03:24Wonka.
03:25Wonka.
03:26Wonka.
03:27Because if it just even vaguely moves towards a different vowel,
03:31it's a different, totally different one.
03:33I was warning you, because it was slightly bit Wonka,
03:36and I thought, oh.
03:38That'll get bleeped out.
03:40That'll get bleeped out.
03:41And you played Father Julius, but off-screen you were giving
03:44some of the advice, I hear.
03:45He was giving me a great, you know, he was giving me unaffordable
03:48car advice.
03:49Yes.
03:50So, Rowan is an incredible car collector.
03:51I reached out to him.
03:52I, to this day, have not bought a car.
03:54And the references he gave me were wildly out of my league,
03:58you know.
03:59I didn't think they were, so...
04:01I'm sorry that they were.
04:03When you were about 20, you gave me a lift in an Aston Martin.
04:07Good.
04:08I was about 20, you were 22?
04:11Oh, gosh, yes.
04:12Something like that.
04:13You had an Aston Martin then.
04:1522?
04:16Yes.
04:17Wow.
04:18I can only imagine the insurance.
04:19It was the only reason that I entered show business,
04:21was to attempt to buy an Aston Martin.
04:23Aston Martin.
04:24LAUGHTER
04:25And I got one quite young.
04:26Yeah.
04:27He did.
04:28Very young.
04:29Did you...
04:30How did you feel in the experience?
04:31Was it OK?
04:32I thought, to be honest, Ro, I thought, what a knob.
04:36LAUGHTER
04:37I'm so sorry.
04:38I was quite...
04:39I was a big kind of thingy at the time.
04:42I was quite...
04:43OK, what...
04:44You felt a knob with me.
04:45LAUGHTER
04:46Why have you got this huge car at 22?
04:49Why were you in this car?
04:51We...
04:52Because we've known each other since you were about 10.
04:54I mean...
04:55It must have been short.
04:56But it was platonic?
04:57It was normal?
04:58It was platonic, I swear.
04:59LAUGHTER
05:00Yes.
05:01Yes, it was.
05:02I wasn't putting out.
05:03LAUGHTER
05:04Oh, yes.
05:05LAUGHTER
05:06You're glad now, Rowan.
05:07Yeah, yeah, yeah.
05:08I'm setting the record straight.
05:09Hugely relieved.
05:10The other thing that links Emma and Rowan is you were both in...
05:14I think, is it your favourite Christmas movie of all time?
05:17Love Actually.
05:18What a gem.
05:19What a gem.
05:20CHEERING
05:21Now, I was re-watching it last night, and that's a sort of complicated ethically storyline, you know?
05:25Oh, yeah.
05:26Because you guys resolved the dispute quite easily.
05:28Well, do you think?
05:29I don't think so.
05:30I think that when he gets off that plane, Alan Rickman, God rest him, playing my husband,
05:35I think you just don't know...
05:37You know it'll never be the same again.
05:39Mm-hm.
05:40That's the thing.
05:41But you were in the same scene, weren't you?
05:42Yeah...
05:43You?
05:44You wrap up the naughty necklace.
05:46Well, I...
05:47Yes, exactly.
05:48But I think...
05:49You see, this is the problem with not actually watching films you've made.
05:52LAUGHTER
05:53He's trying to remember the story.
05:55LAUGHTER
05:56You work in Selfridges?
05:57Yes.
05:58Because I was in Selfridges all night with Alan Rickman.
06:01We were.
06:02We were all there in Selfridges.
06:03And Alan Rickman, God bless him, was pretty annoyed about...
06:06Yeah.
06:07He didn't really want to be up all night, you know, shooting.
06:09In Selfridges.
06:10Because we had to shoot during the night because they didn't allow us to shoot during the day.
06:12Yeah.
06:13So we had to pretend it was a day.
06:14And he was...
06:16He was fairly short-tempered.
06:18Yeah.
06:19Whereas I just did a spot of shopping.
06:20Yeah.
06:21Yeah, you just put a lot of things aside.
06:23Shopping.
06:24Yeah, exactly.
06:25Shopping.
06:26Shoplifting.
06:27LAUGHTER
06:28What was the vibe on...
06:30So was there tension from the car experience years prior?
06:33Oh, yeah.
06:34No, do you know what?
06:35Actually, by then, by then...
06:36Were you channelling the knob?
06:38LAUGHTER
06:39I'm so sorry, Ro.
06:40No, I didn't mean to be rude, but at that time I was only 22.
06:43Yeah, yeah.
06:44You've got to, you know, forget.
06:45It's quite hard.
06:46Forgive and forget, love.
06:48No, no.
06:49Er, yeah.
06:50Er, now, Edward Anneville, great to have you here, a fashion expert.
06:54But even you have off days with fashion.
06:57Tell us about getting your OBE.
06:58Oh, my God.
06:59So, I mean, you've both been at the palace.
07:02You've both...
07:03So I remember, yes, I had the OBE.
07:05I went into the palace, Buckingham Palace, so proud.
07:09My family, my...
07:10You know, there's something about that day, isn't there?
07:12Yeah.
07:13You know, you go into that red room and Princess Anne's there and...
07:16And I got into the room and I realised,
07:18oh, I have to walk backwards.
07:20That morning, I just got a brand-new McQueen suit.
07:22I was in a McQueen suit, but they forgot to add the braces.
07:25So I thought, you know what?
07:26They're never going to know.
07:27Got a pair of stockings.
07:28Jimmy rigged it.
07:29Oh, my goodness.
07:30I'm going to be fine.
07:31So I'm there.
07:33I get presented, you know.
07:34Yeah.
07:35The medal.
07:36Yeah.
07:37And my trousers start to fall.
07:38LAUGHTER
07:39And I have to walk backwards.
07:40And I'm walking backwards, literally petrified.
07:43I'm like, I don't want to be the Edward and Nimph that mooned.
07:47LAUGHTER
07:48Mooned up a palace.
07:50So I kind of managed to sort of go back slowly,
07:53shamefully grab my shorts and run out.
07:55And if you see any picture that day, you see the pants are literally...
07:58It's so funny.
07:59There's a picture of you.
08:00I think Naomi Campbell is holding your trousers off.
08:02LAUGHTER
08:03They do look very baggy.
08:06LAUGHTER
08:07They do look fucking baggy.
08:08It was nearly there.
08:09I was nearly done.
08:10The stockings didn't quite make a good bell.
08:13Listen, let's get started, because Emma's latest work is a thriller.
08:18It's called Down Cemetery Road.
08:20The final episode just dropped, so all episodes are available now on Apple TV.
08:24So this is from the Mick Herron novel, Mick Herron who wrote Star Horses.
08:29And when they came to you with this, you already knew the book.
08:32Yeah, because I've always loved Mick.
08:34OK.
08:35In fact, I came across him in my local bookshop in 2015 or something,
08:39and I picked this book up.
08:40Because I love thrillers.
08:41I've always read thrillers.
08:42And I started to read and I thought, what's a good thriller?
08:46And then I started to laugh, because it's really funny.
08:49And he told me, actually, subsequently, that when he first sent Cemetery Road,
08:54the Zoe Boehm thrillers and the Slough House thrillers, to the publishers,
08:58they were very confused, because they said, look, is this a thriller
09:01or is it a comedy?
09:02Because, weirdly, in this country, which is the funniest country, I think,
09:06on the planet, people can't cope when you mix comedy with something else.
09:11You know, somehow it's just got to be separate.
09:13Yeah.
09:14But he's terribly, terribly funny.
09:16And for people who haven't read the books, Zoe Boehm, tell us about her.
09:20What is going on?
09:21She's a shit-kicking, very tough private detective,
09:26private investigator, probably had a dreadful childhood
09:31with that kind of parent who never gives you any kind of backup whatsoever
09:35and doesn't believe in you, so that she's got very low expectations.
09:39I'm sure some of you in the audience know what I mean,
09:42where you just go, no, I'm not going to expect much.
09:45Yeah.
09:46And so she's quite tough, quite compassionate.
09:50I had this wonderful bond with Ruth Wilson, who's playing my co-star.
09:54There she is.
09:55So we had a fantastic time making it, and I love her.
09:59She's sort of a good avatar, because she's decided not to be a good girl.
10:04She doesn't have to be a good girl.
10:06She doesn't have to assuage her way around people through life,
10:09being nice, always being nice.
10:10Always have to be so fucking nice!
10:12I'm so fed up with it!
10:14Why do we have to do that all the time?
10:16Why?
10:17There are many women in the audience going, yeah.
10:21I know you can relate, so don't pretend that you don't.
10:25Anyway, so Zoe just doesn't do that.
10:28She's very unapologetic, shall we say.
10:30Well, we've got a clip.
10:31This is you, Zoe Boom, meeting Sarah, played by the great Ruth Wilson,
10:35for the very first time.
10:37Well, well, well.
10:38A customer.
10:39Well, have you taken a wrong turn en route to the artisanal cheese shop?
10:43Doors open.
10:44I'm looking for Joseph Silverman.
10:50Let me guess.
10:51You've got a husband, he's got a secretary.
10:53Am I warm?
10:54No.
10:55The secretary's still a thing.
10:57OK, but not a secretary.
10:59Personal assistant, posh secretary.
11:01You seem like the type who might have a handsy husband in the media.
11:04What type is that?
11:05Sort of, you know, doe-eyed and helpless.
11:09You seem like a bit of a cock.
11:12LAUGHTER
11:15I feel seen.
11:17Hi, I'm Zoe Boom.
11:20Sarah.
11:21Trafford.
11:23Ooh!
11:24APPLAUSE
11:30What is it that you felt to get into Zoe Boom's character,
11:32the look and everything, you tapped into kind of a younger version
11:35of yourself?
11:36Yeah, I mean, she struck me as somebody, and I don't know,
11:40well, you'll understand, Rowan, I don't think Edward will,
11:42because you're younger.
11:43That's right.
11:44And you won't!
11:45LAUGHTER
11:46Mr...
11:47Little darling.
11:49LAUGHTER
11:50But I grew up in Camden Town in London, which was rough.
11:54You know, I mean, the school I went to, Camden School for Girls,
11:56which is a wonderful school, but of course, quite early on in
11:59women's education, let's face it, I was born in 1959.
12:03We'd only just kind of got the bloody vote.
12:06So, girls' schools, right, for instance, round the back gates,
12:10there was always a bloke and a Mac exposing himself.
12:13Oh, God.
12:14Does that still happen?
12:15LAUGHTER
12:16I don't know, but it was just normal.
12:18It was just completely normal.
12:19I haven't done it for ages.
12:20LAUGHTER
12:21I don't.
12:22But anyway, we grew up in sort of a scrappy, grimy London,
12:27and I think of Zoe as part of that sooty past, you know,
12:31when there was still fogs and kind of dirt and a lot of agro,
12:37actually, but also quite a lot of community as well.
12:40And there's kind of a lack of vanity about Zoe.
12:44What do you mean?
12:45What do you mean?
12:46Well, the hair, you know, you're very quaffed tonight.
12:50Tonight, yeah, but a lot of effort gone into this.
12:53There's two people back there who just, you know, they're on drips.
12:55They've done so much fucking well.
12:57LAUGHTER
12:58Yeah.
12:59That's, um, that's, yeah.
13:00I think that's all right.
13:01No, no, it looks good.
13:02It looks all right, doesn't it?
13:03It looks good.
13:04Talking of haircut, Timothy, Timothy,
13:06what happened to the beautiful Chalamet locks?
13:08They're all gone.
13:09Yes.
13:10They've been stolen.
13:11How long have they been missing?
13:13Since June, June 25th.
13:15Did you put them on eBay?
13:17No.
13:18LAUGHTER
13:19Somebody could have stuffed a cushion with them
13:21and made a lot of money.
13:22I didn't think of that.
13:23I didn't think of it.
13:24Did they just throw the Chalamet locks away?
13:27You know, the, the, it was for a different,
13:30it was for a film for Dune Part 3,
13:32and there's supposed to be a nice character shift,
13:35and I'm playing 15, 20 years older,
13:38so we did a three-millimeter haircut, I think it's called,
13:40and then the director wanted more, 1.5,
13:42and then we did one, and then I begged him, I said,
13:44please, please, like, you know,
13:46your hair, weirdly, were all attached.
13:48It's kind of like our personality,
13:49this, these follicles that grow out of our heads.
13:51Yeah.
13:52Samson.
13:53Yeah.
13:54You know?
13:55Your hair contains your power.
13:56Could do.
13:57I've never heard that.
13:58Samson and Delilah, she cut all his hair off
13:59and took all his power.
14:00I have no clue what you're talking about.
14:02LAUGHTER
14:04I'm going to take you for margaritas after this.
14:07LAUGHTER
14:08I'm going to tell you lots of stories about hair.
14:10But you're right, you're right.
14:11It's a really powerful thing.
14:12It's a powerful thing, yeah.
14:13Like, margaritas and read the Bible to Timothee Chalamet.
14:15LAUGHTER
14:16It's a great combo, it's a great combo.
14:18Meanwhile, down somebody's road, I am surprised here,
14:21this is your kind of first kick-ass action thing.
14:25Yes.
14:27Which, actually, as it turns out, at 66 was a really stupid idea.
14:31LAUGHTER
14:32What can I tell you?
14:33My knees will never be the same again.
14:35Why do people do it?
14:36Yeah.
14:37I don't know.
14:38I've rung friends who are action heroes and said,
14:40how have you managed, how are you still alive?
14:42And they've all said, we've had a lot of operations.
14:44Oh.
14:45Yes, oh, exactly.
14:46Yeah.
14:47Yeah.
14:48So I'm thinking, why didn't I read it, probably?
14:52But, you know, it's not in the bloody book,
14:54so you know you get those pages later,
14:58and I'm going, being pulled out of a rat-infested tunnel
15:02by her feet, backwards, blown up on a...
15:05Blown up on a beat!
15:06Well, hang on a second!
15:08LAUGHTER
15:09It's not in the book, it's not in the...
15:11Nobody told me!
15:12And actually, I'm sorry, Rowan,
15:14because of the things you've done,
15:15there is such a physicality to them all.
15:17Yes.
15:18Well, sometimes, yeah.
15:19But do they go over into kind of stunt work?
15:22Do other people have to ever do things for you?
15:24Um...
15:25Yeah, not so much the driving.
15:27I tend to do my own driving.
15:28Oh, yeah, yeah.
15:29What a knob.
15:30LAUGHTER
15:31I am teamwork, by the way.
15:32I think it's the coolest stuff ever.
15:33That's very sweet.
15:34Don't let them bump.
15:35No, I've got to keep up my reputation as a knob.
15:36LAUGHTER
15:37And, yeah, on and off set.
15:38But, I mean, generally speaking, yeah, I've done...
15:39I did a movie quite a while ago called Mr. Bean's Holiday.
15:40Oh, yes.
15:41Woo!
15:42In which Mr. Bean...
15:43APPLAUSE
15:44And there's a scene...
15:45We're so casual about that.
15:46I did a film called Mr. Bean's...
15:47Bow!
15:48Well, does he look like an even bigger knob if he said,
15:50Oh, well, of course you all know Mr. Bean's Holiday.
15:52You know, so it's the un-famous thing.
15:53It's the un-famous thing.
15:54It's the un-famous thing.
15:55It's the un-famous thing.
15:56It's the un-famous thing.
15:57It's the un-famous thing.
15:58It's the un-famous thing.
15:59It's the un-famous thing.
16:00It's the un-famous thing.
16:01It's the un-famous thing.
16:02It's the un-famous thing.
16:03I did a film called Mr. Bean's...
16:04Bow!
16:05Well, does he look like an even bigger knob if he said,
16:08Oh, well, of course you all know Mr. Bean's Holiday.
16:11You know, so it's actually very...
16:13I'm trying to reduce my knob quotient.
16:15LAUGHTER
16:16As far as I possibly can.
16:18In which I...
16:19We had this idea in which a Mr. Bean would overtake a peloton of cyclists.
16:24Oh, yes.
16:25And, uh, no matter almost how slowly we got the peloton to go,
16:29I was finding it quite tricky.
16:31LAUGHTER
16:32But I really, you know, we did several takes...
16:34Oh, there you are.
16:35LAUGHTER
16:36..in which I overtake the peloton of cyclists.
16:39And I really did it, for real.
16:41You know, it was in the days when CGI was less...
16:43..was less accessed.
16:45And, um, but, oh, goodness me, after the second take,
16:48I was absolutely dead.
16:49The way did you do it more than once?
16:51Yeah, yeah, we did it several times.
16:53But the, um, but...
16:55And, of course, you know, they were only going
16:57probably 20 miles an hour.
16:59You know, the peloton, but you can make it look
17:01as though they're going faster if you track with the camera.
17:04And so I, you know, I just, yeah, I sort of hung on in there.
17:07But after, yeah, after a couple takes, I was...
17:10I was dead.
17:11But I survived.
17:12You did. Yes.
17:13You really are Jacques Tati, Roe.
17:15Well...
17:16It suddenly occurred to me...
17:18Well, I mean, this was definitely his world.
17:20Exactly.
17:21Well, thank you.
17:22Yeah, well, that's compliment.
17:23Yeah, that's compliment.
17:24He's a compliment.
17:25He's a compliment.
17:26You can take it because I have been very rude.
17:27But now I want to make up for you.
17:29Sitting between this mending energy.
17:31I feel mending and healing.
17:33Getting back to down Savage Road, you have an exciting announcement to make.
17:38Oh, well, yes, we're going to do a second season of it.
17:43Excellent.
17:44Because I just finished the first one last night, so I'm delighted.
17:48Very, very good.
17:50And just a reminder that the first season, all eight episodes of
17:52Down Savage Road are on Apple TV now.
17:55Thank you very much.
17:56You're welcome.
17:58Thank you very much.
18:00Our big movie tonight comes from Timothee Chalamet.
18:04It is called Marty's Supreme.
18:06It'll be in UK and Ireland cinemas from the 26th of December.
18:10And here's just a glimpse of the trailer.
18:13I don't think you understand the stakes here.
18:15Why is that funny?
18:16I get nervous laughter sometimes.
18:20Are my eyes broke or is that mouth?
18:22Thank you so much.
18:23You're not up.
18:24We believe in you.
18:26Hey, I ripped that unibrow right off his forehead.
18:29You want to get physical?
18:30Like an ape?
18:35Come on, he's ready!
18:36Give him a gun!
18:38Have you ever thought about what you're doing to me?
18:40Give us all money!
18:42When they do, I'll be right behind you.
18:46Everybody wants to rule the world.
18:51And it's only a matter of time before I'm staring at you from the cover of a Wheaties box.
18:55You think it's that simple?
18:56Yeah, I do.
18:57Wow.
18:58I can't wait for you to see it.
19:01Marty Supreme is the movie.
19:03I mean, the main headline here is you are astonishing in this movie.
19:08You are so, so good in this.
19:09So, tell us about Marty Supreme.
19:11Who is Marty Supreme?
19:12Marty Supreme is a film about a fictional character named Marty Mouser, loosely inspired by a real-life figure named Marty Reisman, who was a table tennis legend in New York in the 1950s.
19:22And the movie is about the pursuit of a singular dream, about ambition, about following your heart.
19:29And I do believe it's an important film to kind of put out now in the sense that you wouldn't be an idiot for thinking we're living in a dark time, especially if you're young.
19:37And I hope this movie can serve as an antidote, you know.
19:40And though the metaphor is table tennis, which is perhaps unusual, it ultimately is about dreaming big, which is why it's the tagline of the movie.
19:49But also, what I liked about it is he's dreaming big and he's kind of a grifter and there's a conman element and all that.
19:56But it's based on genuine talent.
19:58Oh yeah, he's the best in the world, or he believes him to be the best in the world.
20:03I don't want to reveal plot lines in the movie, but what starts as a table tennis movie sort of evolves into a heist film and lands in a very human place, you know.
20:11I was in Brazil last week.
20:13We did a premiere in L.A. three days ago.
20:15I'm so happy to be here to get a chance to talk about it with you, Graham, and for you guys to be here.
20:20Marty Supreme comes out Boxing Day.
20:21I want to say that about 30 times so it all gets in your head.
20:24Yeah, yeah, yeah.
20:25No, but really this is like a...
20:26And Boxing Day, very own message.
20:27Mind Boxing Day.
20:28Very good.
20:29Yeah, yeah.
20:30December 26th, exactly.
20:31Nothing to do with, you know, throwing hands.
20:34That was a terrible joke.
20:37And this is an indie film ultimately, you know, financed by A24, which is an indie production company in America.
20:44So if you like original films, if you're, you know, tired of seeing remakes and studio blockbusters, many of which I've been a part of, you know, this is a, this is, this is it.
20:54And I can't say it enough.
20:55Marty Supreme, Boxing Day.
20:56December 26th.
20:57What are you?
20:58Yeah.
21:03And it's a weird thing to say because the scale of the film is really big.
21:07And what I thought was amazing, the casting of it, everyone, every, there isn't an extra, you feel, that wasn't chosen.
21:15Everyone has a really interesting face, a really interesting look.
21:18We had an incredible detail-oriented director, his name's Josh Safdie.
21:22He's sort of a street poet.
21:23He referred to Abel Ferrara like that yesterday, sort of the early Scorsese films.
21:27And Josh is that guy, he directed a film called Uncut Gems with Adam Sandler with A Good Time with the United Kingdom's own Robert Pattinson.
21:34And, uh, I thought that was going to get more love.
21:37And, uh...
21:40Never tell him.
21:41Never tell him that happened.
21:42Yeah, yeah, yeah.
21:43I said your name and nothing.
21:45Yeah, yeah.
21:46That's not true, man.
21:48By the way, hey Rob, if you ever watched this, I didn't plug that enough, man.
21:53I didn't get it.
21:54Yeah.
21:55Twilight's Robert Pattinson.
21:56That's it.
21:57Yeah.
21:58They love it.
21:59They love him.
22:00And the director, what's his thing?
22:03That he wanted to tap into, a bit like Emma tapping into her younger self.
22:07Yeah.
22:08You were tapping into your younger self.
22:09Well...
22:10Young...
22:11What?
22:12Like when you were five?
22:14He's very young already.
22:16The idea was...
22:17You know, Josh is from New York.
22:18I was raised in Hell's Kitchen.
22:19You know, much like living in London, you grow up in a box in a lot of ways.
22:23You wear your personality.
22:24Audacity could be personality.
22:26It's your armor.
22:27It's your sleeve.
22:28And certainly I was hawking, you know, modified PlayStation controllers.
22:32I was on the subway singing the French national anthem to try to impress girls.
22:35You know, like, I was an outlandish youth.
22:38You know, that's why I landed here.
22:39Yeah.
22:40You know, straight shot to Graham Norton's couch.
22:42Yeah.
22:43Yeah.
22:44Yeah.
22:45There wasn't the time to read the Bible, Emma.
22:47Yeah.
22:48You know.
22:49So...
22:50Anyway.
22:51Are those...
22:52And that idea of you being like that...
22:55So, Marty Supreme, this character, has this kind of singular vision and this kind of self-belief,
23:00unshakable self-belief.
23:01And then I heard you, when you were picking up your SAG Award for A Complete Unknown where
23:05you played Bob Dylan, in your speech you said this thing about, you know, you are in pursuit
23:09of greatness.
23:10And I've heard you talking about this film.
23:11Are you tapping into Marty Supreme's kind of vision?
23:15Yeah.
23:16And that was two months after we finished filming.
23:17So I was sort of...
23:18Oh, was it?
23:19Oh, wow.
23:20Yeah.
23:21Kind of like still in that...
23:22That's not in a pretentious way.
23:23It's not like a method way.
23:24It's just sometimes you're in the energy of the tone of the character.
23:26And...
23:27But that's an ephemeral pursuit, you know.
23:29I am living in absolute humility next to Dame Emma Thompson and the legend Rowan Atkinson
23:36and Edward Enniffel.
23:37Thank you for the British Vogue cover, my brother.
23:40I brought you the villain role with the curly hair.
23:44And the other thing then, so in terms of promoting this film, you want people to see this film,
23:50clearly, and you're really backing it.
23:52You've done this PR campaign with all sorts of things.
23:55This is you in New York.
23:57If people hadn't seen the film, this is Marty Supreme's ping pong ball on people's heads.
24:02Did you come up with this idea?
24:05Yeah, those are my friends.
24:07Are they still your friends?
24:09After seven, eight years in Hollywood, you know, the people that, you know, the day ones get sick of your new life.
24:15These are my new friends.
24:16Yeah.
24:17What else have you done?
24:19Is that you in there?
24:21Yes.
24:22That I self-financed, you know.
24:23They didn't love that, you know, A24.
24:25They didn't tell me not to do it.
24:26But I paid for it.
24:27And that was more expensive than you'd think.
24:29I had a whole crew.
24:31A whole crew.
24:32I got to set as like 25 people.
24:34You could have bought one of Rowan's cars for that shit.
24:36Jesus Christ.
24:37Yeah, when you start to pay for stuff for yourself, you suddenly realize, oh, this is quite expensive.
24:41This is expensive, man.
24:42So wait, you've put a fucking orange-pink ball on your head.
24:46What is this sort of masochism?
24:48It's a little masochistic.
24:49I did realize I was in there.
24:50We have leaf blowers underneath.
24:52It was on a, it was a special effects master, Ridley Scott special effects master.
24:55I should really know his name.
24:56It was in his backyard.
24:57And I'm sitting there and I had the head on and I'm getting bruised by the balls.
25:01I was going to say.
25:02I did think to myself and I thought, this is sort of a, you know, I got to explore this, you know, in my personal life.
25:07You might have to.
25:08But then, you know, it's all set in the 50s.
25:11Yeah.
25:12But the jackets and the logo, these have become very desirable.
25:16Okay, you need to stop now.
25:18This is, look, come on.
25:20He's in merch.
25:21Yeah.
25:22It's merch already.
25:23No, but like, but this is very desirable.
25:26I mean, everybody wants this merch.
25:28Hell yeah.
25:29Yeah.
25:30Like even your mother, even your mother, you, you, you posted a text from your mother.
25:34Can you please send me a Marty Supreme jacket?
25:36Of course I will.
25:37Please do it now.
25:38But finally, I can wear it in the mirror.
25:40Please get a size small.
25:41She called me, she called me two days ago.
25:43She said, hey, you know, your parents said, well, the tone was already.
25:47I was like, okay.
25:48Hey, what did I do?
25:49She goes, did you, did you post the message I sent you about the jacket?
25:52I said, yeah.
25:53And I said, sorry, I should have asked you.
25:55And she goes, no, it's all right.
25:56But where's the jacket?
25:57You know what I'm saying?
25:58You can still have to give it to me.
25:59But I will say real quick.
26:01I feel like they're well-designed.
26:02I'm proud of these.
26:03But in an era where like excess consumerism isn't chic, blah, blah, blah.
26:07I feel like the idea of this is what people have been liking.
26:10As far as dreaming big and being relentless in that pursuit, I feel like it's what it represents.
26:14And if that's marketing 101 or if you cringe at that, Mario Supreme Boxing Day, there's someone at home that's not cringing at that.
26:22You know what I mean?
26:23Can I just say, we're all not sitting there thinking, I've got man v. baby in a minute.
26:26I'm really going to plug it.
26:27You are really good at this.
26:28Cheers.
26:29But Edward, in terms of fashion promotion, you went the extra mile for your new company, E72.
26:47E72.
26:48E72, yes.
26:49You commissioned these.
26:50A lovely grill.
26:51Ooh!
26:52I thought you might be wearing it tonight.
26:57No, you know, I'm from Lovebrook Grove, pretty much like you.
26:59I'm from the hood.
27:00OK.
27:01You know what?
27:02I'm a long way away, but we're going to wear it.
27:04Yeah.
27:05I should have worn it tonight for you.
27:06It's from Lovebrook Grove, by the way.
27:08Yeah.
27:09West London.
27:10It's the very West London thing.
27:12It's the bling version of Nanny McPhee, isn't it?
27:15I really want the...
27:16I love that clip.
27:17I'm going to get you.
27:18I'll get you.
27:19I'll get you one, I promise.
27:20Fantastic.
27:21Now, Marty Supreme, Marty Supreme, as I said, your performance is astonishing.
27:27You've had rave reviews, and now, well, the movie's got three Golden Globe nominations.
27:32You for Best Actor, Best Film, Best Screenplay.
27:37Congratulations.
27:39And I'm sure there'll be plenty more.
27:40Good luck when it comes to them all.
27:43You deserve all the praise.
27:44I appreciate it, Graham.
27:47And I...
27:48I must remind people, because they may not know, Marty Supreme...
27:49Marty Supreme Boxing Day!
27:50It's cinemas from...
27:51Boxing Day!
27:52You've done it, Timothy.
27:53You've done it.
27:54You've sold it.
27:55Thank you, guys.
27:57All right.
27:58Comedy fans rejoice.
27:59Rowan Atkinson returns as the hapless Trevor Bingley.
28:00We go big on this, Rowan.
28:01Yeah.
28:02In Man vs. Baby.
28:03It's out on Netflix now, and this is the much-anticipated sequel to Man vs. Me.
28:06So, did you always know there was going to be another one?
28:07Or how long did it take to come up with the idea of a baby?
28:08No, no, no.
28:09With Man vs. Be we just thought it was quite funny to do a show about a man stuck in a
28:10house with a bee.
28:11And it was!
28:12The man has to stay in the end, it turned out in the end to be quite a good idea, and
28:16it was quite a good idea as the hapless Trevor Bingley, as the hapless Trevor Bingley.
28:18We go big on this, Rowan.
28:19Yeah.
28:20In Man vs. Baby.
28:21It's out on Netflix now, and this is the much-anticipated sequel to Man vs. Bee.
28:23So, did you always know there was going to be another one?
28:26Or how long did it take to come up with the idea of a baby?
28:29No, no.
28:30With Man vs. Bee, we just thought it was quite funny to do a show about a man stuck in a
28:34house with a bee.
28:36And it was!
28:37A man has to stay in the end.
28:38turned out in the end it'd be quite a good idea and and that was a couple of
28:42years ago on Netflix and it did you know well enough to justify them wanting some
28:46more so then we thought well what are we going to do so you do do we do man
28:50versus B2 or do we do man versus wasp anyway and and actually with this one
28:59it's a Christmas show it's set at Christmas my character is the same
29:03called Trevor Bingley and he's a house sitter a sort of reluctant house sitter
29:08and certainly under qualified certainly on the basis of his experience in man
29:15versus B yeah anyway but he manages to wangle another job this time he's
29:21looking after a Swiss oligarchs penthouse flat in Mayfair in central London but for
29:28reasons that maybe I shouldn't explain how it comes about but anyway he's
29:32stuck with a baby so he has to house this this flat looking after a baby which
29:36isn't his and he's trying to find the parents the carers of the baby and he
29:42can't so he's stuck with it so that's the essence well we've got a clip this is you
29:46as as Trevor out and about with your baby
29:52hello good morning he's so darling what's his name Jesus how old is he um about three months
30:12three months he's huge for three months well you should see his mother
30:19what I find sad about that is I think Trevor only tells a joke about twice a year and I think that's one of his you know that was one of his attempts and it's gone down so badly
30:24what I find sad about that is I think Trevor only tells a joke about twice a year and
30:42I think that's one of his you know that was one of his attempts and it's gone down so badly
30:49so badly I feel sorry for him and I don't think of your characters ever as being mean or nasty spirit but you think that Trevor is nicer than the characters
30:58yeah I mean in man versus B he was quite psychopathic because the B drove him
31:03kind of nuts but in this one he's not so psychopathic he he's actually he's a
31:10genuinely sweet man I think Trevor Bingley and I and that's relatively rare
31:14actually in my in the characters that I played because I think you know mr. Bean is a
31:19selfish self-centered anarchic child you know really a very you know he looks
31:26after number one and is quite charmless character and the black adder is a
31:32sarcastic you know sardonic negative sort of guy I'm into humorously negative in
31:40terms of what he says and the way he says it but you know not you know and and even
31:45Johnny English you know the comedy spy character which I occasionally play that
31:49that he he's he's vain again self-centered doesn't care about anybody else he's
31:59another knob so I think Trevor Bingley is a pleasant contrast yeah to actually these
32:07this sort of yeah this catalogue of I mean just people that you wouldn't want to
32:14have dinner with a lot of people still big fans of mr. Bean Timothy loving mr.
32:23beans holiday and but I'd forgotten that at its height I mean mr. Bean was a kind
32:29of global for no madness yeah it could be yeah I had very little experience of it
32:37except oh yeah once in Amsterdam I remember doing signing in the old days
32:41when you used to sign videos Wow video cassettes that's how long ago was and I
32:47remember going to Amsterdam and there was this signing and oh there was a
32:50tremendous fuss and flim-flam and you know crowds and and I remember being
32:56shuffled out of the back of the store in a police car and all all that sort of
33:00stuff yeah because because mr. Bean didn't need language so it could play
33:04anywhere yeah was there anywhere that it didn't play was there anywhere you know
33:08that it didn't go no eventually it went everywhere but in the 90s there was the
33:14capacity because it was just television distribution over over which I had some
33:19control and you know sort of pre the mass use and access yeah the internet but and
33:27therefore that I did see an opportunity to stop mr. Bean being shown in Italy so for a
33:35a number of years it wasn't it was shown all over the world except in Italy why
33:39well just because I wanted to go on holiday to Italy
33:44and it worked for several years this was kind of in the early mid 90s
33:50and it worked very well no one had the slightest clue who was and then the the first mr.
33:57bean movie been was it called being the ultimate disaster movie something like that
34:01which came out in 97 that of course the film company wanted it to be everywhere including
34:06Italy and then actually it turned out because then the TV shows went there and it turned out
34:11to be you know one of our most enthusiastic audiences so now there's no way you can go on holiday
34:17uh exactly okay well you can see Rowan in man versus baby that is on netflix now there you go
34:25all right thank you all right Edward Enniffel has the rarest of things a new glossy fashion magazine it
34:37is called 72 and the winter issue is available in stores and online now with two lovely two covers two
34:44covers so it is extraordinary a new magazine because everyone's saying oh magazines are dead
34:49they're dead and buried you obviously say no I mean you know my whole life I've worked in magazines
34:55um I wanted to set up a media company um EE 72 and initially I thought you know what I'm going to do a
35:02platform that's what everybody wants the young generation they don't read magazines but then
35:06everywhere I went everyone's like we hope you're doing a magazine okay maybe why not and also you know
35:12I just wanted to have fun I just wanted to create something that people will enjoy reading so why
35:17not four times a year oh so it's quarterly so this is the winter issue and why 72 do I have to really
35:23tell you my age you're never 72 I'm not 72 I was born in 1972 I was thinking you look marvellous
35:36I don't mean 72 I look good for 72 yeah go with that yeah it's the year of my birth so my
35:42initials and the year of my birth oh okay and it's interesting actually I keep calling it a fashion
35:48magazine but actually it covers lots of things yeah yeah I mean I was always I always liked culture you know
35:52film music architecture art for me was always under the umbrella so that's really what this
35:58is about something you can read it's also very friendly it's not so out there you can't relate
36:03to it and yeah it was just it just felt like the right thing to do right now is it because it also
36:08you can be together with people in a room I love it just be because you're creative ideas ideas I haven't
36:15done that in years yeah yeah you know when you when you have sort of uh sort of a big corporate job you
36:19spend a lot of time in meetings and zooms but here it's like being in there you know and the
36:24kids telling you no you can't do it like that you can't say that yeah when you were last here you
36:30were the man in charge of of vogue and when you finally after six years yeah said bye bye to vogue
36:37you had this extraordinary cover uh which is worth reviews oh my god is it 40 of the greatest female
36:43stars of the world minus emma thompson uh you weren't available i'll speak to you later and are they
36:55all really there they're all there i mean we did it when we shot this picture i knew that was going
36:59to be the question so we did a video of all of them at the same time clapping and i've known most of
37:05them before i started working at vogue and it was just amazing to have them all in the same room
37:12i hit i hate i have to be honest at one point i was so sort of overcome with emotion that i kind of
37:18hit they couldn't find me but i'm really really proud of it i mean yeah everyone's in the middle
37:25yeah oprah jane fonda but they've also all followed me to my new magazine so i'm very happy about that
37:31yeah yeah did anyone say no or did everyone say yes i mean everyone said yes i mean a couple of people
37:35scheduling couldn't make it am i yeah busy busy busy i was on my bible who couldn't make it
37:43timothy you couldn't make it that's true timothy was the first man on the cover of vogue and
37:49we did that cover together but you weren't available you were shooting that's true seriously i was
37:53playing tail tennis oh yeah yeah everyone on the cover has been on the cover before that was the
38:00whole idea oh i see rowan and i you're my next cover so you're my next okay what am i gonna do
38:09yeah we'll discuss i'm in charge of styling okay yeah knitwear knitwear uh you find the latest
38:14edition of 72 in chops and online now marvelous uh right it's time for music she was just 18 when
38:27she burst onto the scene as a member of little mix now she's a brit award-winning solo artist here
38:33performing her latest single church it is jade
38:42i would really pray for you like i would pray for you like i would pray for you whatever gets you off
38:48until your knees approves while the world burns let me sit down on your knees
38:57let me be your church
39:03when i was a baby girl that's when i saw the queen nothing like elizabeth more like destiny oh she
39:14looked divine elegant and free she bowed on to my level no kiss said to me it's hard enough to be alive
39:24alive might as well
39:27might as well dance or die heaven's close but we can try
39:33cause we're the one hand of a good time oh baby pray for me like i would pray for you whatever gets you off
39:43until your knees are bruised while the world burns let me see you work down on your knees
39:51let me be your church
39:58now i'm feeling blessed and got my flowers live the dream
40:02carrying the wisdom that was passed down onto me
40:06if you need advice or you don't believe get onto my level listen up i'll set you free
40:14it's hard enough to be alive
40:18i might as well dance or die heaven's close but we can try
40:27cause we won't have a good time
40:31pray for me like i would pray for you whatever gets you off until your knees are bruised while the world
40:39burns let me see you work down on your knees let me be your church baby stay
40:46all the sinners in the place
41:05show me love give me faith girls dolls party boys rise above the dirty noise if you're all out of sugar
41:11then i just feel this taste take this holy water and watch that green face
41:18girls dolls party boys rise above the dirty noise from the gutter to the stars
41:24i'm everywhere you are now let me see you work
41:30let me be your church
41:43wow
41:53wow
41:55wow
41:57wow
42:01wow
42:05jade everybody
42:18and those amazing dancers thank you so much
42:22beautiful job
42:24gorgeous
42:26absolutely gorgeous
42:28i think they're gonna help jade off the stage now
42:33here she comes
42:37oh
42:39thank you so much for that epic performance
42:41that was absolutely beautiful
42:43come on up thank you thank you thank you
42:45jade you know edward roan
42:49i'm a gang's all here
42:52yeah yeah
42:54i love your bare feet
42:56lovely to see you jade hi hi
42:58now i know you know uh edward because you were at issue one of 72
43:02yes uh there you are in some very big shoes
43:06those are mini mouse
43:08yeah
43:10and there's someone else on the couch
43:12i don't don't give it away uh
43:14yeah we've got a clip this is jade now see if you can guess who she's going to transform into
43:22okay presumably this was a halloween thing this halloween thing i dressed as one of my favorite
43:27okay so we don't know who could have been you know it could have been willy wonka it could have been nanny mcphee mr
43:32jabeen edward it's not you
43:37different times
43:43all right let's
43:45let's have a look see if we can guess who
43:47who she's going to transform into
43:49here we go
43:51no clues so far no clues
43:55this is really impressive
43:57look at that
43:59thank you
44:08that's very sweet goodness me
44:10well i wasn't expecting that
44:12you're right on
44:14now that amazing song you just uh played that is off that showbiz baby the encore
44:18this is your debut album but it's a deluxe version
44:21yes it's got eight new tracks on
44:24you know i didn't want to i don't do things by halves it's essentially a new album but still part of
44:31that showbiz baby era
44:33and uh lots of new tracks but there's a uh
44:35a madonna cover on here madonna cover my favorite madonna song frozen
44:39wow yeah
44:41so that's on there and church that i just performed is on there
44:45beautiful and uh you have had an amazing year jade i'm so happy for you
44:50uh you know glassbury radio and big way again and of course i mentioned in the intro
44:54your solo brit win
44:56yes
45:00which must have been such a thrill
45:02yeah yeah
45:04and you know watching that performance over there you know being thrown away by the dancers you
45:08you appear to be fearless but in that that epic performance at the brits apparently nerves did
45:14get to you oh my gosh i was so nervous for the performance when i performed asia my dreams in
45:20my head when the beat drops there would always be like this trap door moment so i said yes i'm
45:25going to trap door i pushed and pushed the label we've got to do it it'll be epic it'll be really
45:29good on telly then i got our rehearsals the trap door i'm not kidding it was up to this evening
45:33i think we've got a picture so this is the beginning you dressed as the bride
45:37yes that's your dog and if you go look that is very high that is very high because they said
45:42they needed a good shot of me midair still falling so it was really scary and that's like in the first
45:4810 to 20 seconds of the performance so you're going to sing after you've fallen i said i'm not doing
45:53it it's too scary they were like we paid for it now you're doing it so nice yeah and on the night
45:59i was so nervous i had to climb up the ladder like i was climbing to my death and then i get to the top
46:05and i thought we're on live tv and i was like i can't do it so i turned around they've removed
46:09the ladder and i was like
46:12i guess you're doing it then but you know what i was grateful because the sheer drop of it it felt
46:18like it just winded the sort of nerves out of me and the rest was just a blur but i still do have
46:22like a bit of mini ptsdh so i'll just be walking i think i'm gonna fall through this honestly it was
46:29such a bizarre feeling but um no more trap doors no well it's a congratulations on on the brit and on
46:35everything and uh thank you that performance and good luck with the deluxe album yeah they love you they
46:44love you that is nearly it where we go uh just time for a quick visit to the big red chair who have
46:50you got hello hi i have high hopes for you young lady uh what's your name megan megan all right where
46:56you from megan originally from wigan but i live in twickenham now god is in the details
47:04what do you do megan i'm a multimedia content producer sweet jesus it basically means i do
47:11social media and i do it for sports marvelous okay off you go with your story come on so i have a lot
47:17of stomach problems um and i'm missing i'm missing a digestive organ and it means that i can often
47:27go to the toilet a lot um and when i was undergoing my diagnosis um we were trying to find loads of
47:32recipes that i could eat and not cause grievous bodily harm yes and i found this website that was
47:38like dedicated to people with stomach issues and i was like amazing fantastic made some recipes it was
47:43brilliant um and then i was back home later for a christmas party with my mom and like a load of
47:48family friends and they were asking me after my health and i was like yeah no it's going well i found
47:52this website and they said oh what's the name of this website and i couldn't remember the exact name but
47:58i knew one thing and it was called the bottom friendly recipe website oh and i didn't realize that i just
48:03recommended a website to a load of 50 year old women that was about people who enjoyed anal sex and
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