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CTP (S3E130) If Common Sense Had A Podcast, It Would Ask “Why” A Lot
Exploring more of the fascinating intersection of Activism, Community Engagement, Faith / Religion, Human Nature, Politics, Social Issues, and beyond
We press into why as a civic habit, from childhood curiosity to adult responsibility, and challenge listeners to test claims by outcomes rather than slogans. Tony EL shares how a military upbringing, history, and education shaped his approach to questioning narratives and defending free thought.
• recovering the habit of asking why across life and politics
• tradition that works versus change that regresses
• judging policies by outcomes and fruits
• history, labels, and how narratives polarise
• education, civics, and critical thinking skills
• journalism’s who what where when why how as daily tools
• practical steps for source checking and media literacy
• guest link http://ProjectThirdIOpen.com
https://tinyurl.com/SubscribeToCTP
Exploring more of the fascinating intersection of Activism, Community Engagement, Faith / Religion, Human Nature, Politics, Social Issues, and beyond
We press into why as a civic habit, from childhood curiosity to adult responsibility, and challenge listeners to test claims by outcomes rather than slogans. Tony EL shares how a military upbringing, history, and education shaped his approach to questioning narratives and defending free thought.
• recovering the habit of asking why across life and politics
• tradition that works versus change that regresses
• judging policies by outcomes and fruits
• history, labels, and how narratives polarise
• education, civics, and critical thinking skills
• journalism’s who what where when why how as daily tools
• practical steps for source checking and media literacy
• guest link http://ProjectThirdIOpen.com
https://tinyurl.com/SubscribeToCTP
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00:00Hello, welcome to another episode of Firstitutionalist Podcast. I am your host, Joseph M. Leonard. That's L-E-N-A-R-D. It's the French. It's not. It's Leonard without an O.
00:17Thank you for tuning in, as Graham Norton used to say, on his show. Let's get on with the show!
00:26Hello, everyone. This is going to be a quick cheat intro segment. I'm going to be lazy. I've got so many guest recordings built up. I'm going to get lazy and cheat on some Saturdays. I don't have to dream up a monologue topic this way.
00:47And I'm also not going to say what guest will be appearing, because I'm going to be lazy and cheat and use this same intro several Saturdays to intro a guest show.
01:03So, as Graham Norton used to say, let's get on with the show! Surprise interview!
01:10Hello, everyone! Welcome to another Firstitutionalist Politics. And joining me today will be Tony L. I'll be asking him, of course, what it feels like to be part of the alphabet and how M and NOP are doing.
01:30Ba-dum-bum! Just a joke. It's spelled E-L, okay? And, of course, in post, I'll put that at the bottom of the screen for those viewing behind the scenes.
01:44But, Tony, I saw his online write-up, and he brought up Y. Again, not the letter Y. We're not talking English alphabet, but W-H-Y.
01:59And my response to him was, but the whole slate of journalism tenets I'm reading from my notes, who, what, where, when, why, and how, are all out the window these days for preferred narrative propaganda rather than journalistic integrity.
02:19But before we get to that, welcome to the show, Tony. How are you doing?
02:25I'm blessed and highly favored. Thanks for having me on, Joseph.
02:29Glad to have you. Glad to have you. And, like I always say, could be better, could be worse, right?
02:37Yeah, so.
02:38So, before we get into why you're all about the why, pun intended, where were you born and raised?
02:48Where are you now? Some significant places you've been to in between, that sort of stuff.
02:55Sure. Sure. I'm a southern-born Georgian boy. I got the red clay running through my blood.
03:03My folks are from South Georgia. As far as back, as I understand, we've been in the South for forever.
03:13My dad was in the military, so I was blessed to be raised in the military family in so many ways, because what has not gone unappreciated was being exposed to a lot of different cultures.
03:32Not just foreign, but also domestic. I don't know if you have this experience, but when you're brought up in a period where you have to be able to adapt, not just to new surroundings, but new people.
03:55And, sure, there's some people who don't do it properly, but when you do it and do it well, I think it's a plus, because you don't have this one way of looking at things.
04:14As a person who raised and born in the same area code, you have a different perspective on the world, on different viewpoint of the world.
04:27And I really appreciate that. I didn't appreciate it then. I didn't appreciate it all then.
04:33There's a lot we don't appreciate when we get older.
04:36But as I have gone into adulthood, as you say, I had to leave childish things behind.
04:47And growing up like that and being an inquisitive person, the why, I never lost that.
04:55You have children, people who have children, we see that when they're born, that's their motive, that's their M.O.
05:04Why, you know, why, explore, how, what, you know, all of that.
05:11And insatiable curiosity.
05:13Exactly, exactly. And for whatever reason, good or bad, that's being out of us as we get older, unfortunately.
05:23Right, yeah, just accept it. Just be a sheeple. Just follow the herd. Just follow orders.
05:30Exactly. And that's not good for a culture and a country that's supposed to be free, free-minded individuals.
05:41Free-minded individuals, they don't have that handicap of no, or not questioning why, why not.
05:50But that's the kind of culture that we have morphed into, much to our detriment.
05:54Yeah, you said a couple things. Red Clay. Been there, done that.
06:01And if you've never been to Georgia and never seen My Cousin Vinny the movie with Tessie and Marissa Tomei,
06:12you gotta see My Cousin Vinny.
06:14And inside baseball, there is a My Cousin Vinny sequel, supposedly, in the works now, finally.
06:22But, yeah, the Red Clay, if you don't...
06:26Leave stuff alone. Leave the classes alone. Leave the classes alone.
06:29Yeah.
06:30On that point, I did see that they're trying to bring back Harlem Knights.
06:39That's Eddie Murphy, Richard Pryor.
06:44They're trying to reboot a bunch of them.
06:47Leave classical, and that just goes back to...
06:50They've got no imagination.
06:53They've got a reboot.
06:54No imagination, and they don't want to push the envelope.
06:57Right, yeah.
06:58And the other thing you said, adapt, right?
07:01The adage, adapt or die.
07:04Figurative, not literal, hopefully, most times.
07:07But there are times, indeed, it can be literal, that adage.
07:12So, yeah, when I saw your profile, and the word, why, jumping out, it's like, absolutely.
07:22And, but we've always done it that way, is not a valid answer.
07:30No, not at all.
07:31Not at all.
07:33It's the word evolution comes in.
07:35Just because you've done it yesterday, don't need, unless, unless it's positive, unless it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's a good thing, you know.
07:46Unfortunately, progressivism in today's culture is, to me, is a four-letter word because it's anything other than progress.
07:55It's not progress.
07:56It's regression.
07:57Yes.
07:58That today's left wants to go back from a we the people, constitution, republic, closer to a democracy that they keep claiming they want, but they don't.
08:11They want to go, they are leftists.
08:13They want to go back towards monarchy, socialism, communism, fascism, all one or small group of elites ruling over everyone.
08:25That's not progress, that's regression.
08:29And as you said, I was going to chime in, tradition.
08:34I am a traditionalist if it's a positive thing, as you said, right?
08:40But question the how, the who, what, where, when, why, and how, and can it be done better?
08:49Not just, oh, change for the sake of change, or, oh, my feelings are hurt.
08:56Right.
08:57B.S.
08:58If it works, let it work.
09:01Right.
09:02And shall be known by fruits.
09:05Show, don't tell.
09:07I don't give a rat's patootie about promises spewing from your mouth, like the Inflation Reduction Act, which was the inflation production money laundering scheme to their families, friends, and donors, and inflation ran out of control.
09:30People, they give these bills wonderful titles, and they do the exact opposite, right?
09:37Show, don't tell.
09:39Shut up and do, and yes, you will be judged.
09:44In the Bible, there are many scriptures we are to judge.
09:48Matthew 7, there's more than just that first seven words.
09:52It's really condemn not, lest ye be condemned.
09:56For final judgment is for the Lord.
09:58But there's 12 other scriptures tell us to judge biblically ourselves and everyone else on the same standards.
10:08Don't be a hypocrite.
10:09So, yes, I judge you based on your effects, not your empty promises.
10:18That's a whole part of our problem today.
10:20People just watch the news, and so-and-so, oh, you're chicken in every pot.
10:27Yeah, they're not telling you their actions are making that chicken cost ten times more than what it used to.
10:36Right.
10:36Agreed.
10:37Agreed.
10:38Okay, let me move my soapbox off to the side.
10:41Rant over.
10:44Back to the why.
10:46When did you first have this epiphany that there's not enough questioning the why?
10:55And keeping the good, not throwing out the baby with the bathwater, right?
11:01Changing what is bad, like our Constitution.
11:04The Three-Fifths Clause, Frederick Douglass was a leftist until he educated himself on the Constitution and what the Three-Fifths Clause was about.
11:18Not to protect slavery, but to limit the power of the slaveholders and the slave states.
11:25He became a Republican after that.
11:28But people love to quote his once-a-slave-always-a-slave speech that he later recanted.
11:36And that's because he asked why.
11:41Well, first of all, let me make a slight correction.
11:45Frederick Douglass was not a leftist in today's sense.
11:50Oh, no.
11:50Right.
11:51Thank you for the correction.
11:52Yeah.
11:52Not a leftist.
11:53For that time.
11:55Yeah.
11:55He was a Democrat.
11:58Well, I mean, well, again, I mean, there wasn't a sustenance Democrat back then either at the time.
12:04So he didn't know.
12:06A federalist.
12:07Right.
12:07He didn't know what he didn't know.
12:09So he didn't know what he didn't know.
12:11And when he did learn, he couldn't unlearn.
12:16And so that's what I want to put for Frederick Douglass.
12:21Yeah.
12:22But the slave mentality was continued.
12:26Slaveholders didn't want the slaves to be educated.
12:32And same post-slavery.
12:34They wanted, like today, our education system.
12:38Remove civics.
12:39Remove history.
12:40Remove.
12:41Keep the people dumb.
12:44And they're easily fooled.
12:45Sure, sure.
12:46I mean, again, the product is the same.
12:53But how the ingredients were mixed are totally different.
13:00Back then, I mean, everything's based on economics, first of all.
13:05And when you ask how to develop or didn't relinquish my propensity to be questionable, to be curious,
13:18always had this curiosity.
13:21And I'll start from being able to see how the culture was in a military community where everybody mixed.
13:32You know, I did most of my growing up, I started the South.
13:40And I came only to the South, you know, during the summer.
13:45You know, and I spent most of my time with my grandparents on a farm.
13:48But I was never in the communities until 1976, when my dad moved back down to Columbus, Georgia.
14:03Then we was in the South.
14:04That's when I was like, oh.
14:09It's a different year.
14:11Yeah, I didn't know there was a Columbus, Georgia.
14:15I never saw that when I was in the state of Georgia.
14:19There was a Columbus, Ohio up closer to me.
14:23The famous one.
14:24The more famous Columbus, yeah.
14:27So you did the whole old McDonald's thing on the farm for a while, huh?
14:32Yeah, yeah.
14:33During the summertime, during the summertime.
14:35Uh, so, uh, but when I got exposed to the South and all of the don't do's, can't do's, should not do's, I was like, what the hell?
14:45Um, and, um, and so that's a curiosity because I'm like, okay, from what I understand, I mean, as far as trying to date women, do just whatever, there was just a group of women that I shouldn't approach all of a sudden, Caucasian women.
15:02And I was like, okay, but, uh, how does this make sense when it seems to be okay when they are able to, um, go with boys from the cultures that we went to war with, Asian, Mexicans, whatever, but I'm off limits?
15:19Nah, I don't, that don't make any sense to me.
15:20Somebody got to explain that to me.
15:21And that just evolved more and more and more while we separated the, the, the, the two most, um, powerful groups in our community, the Negro community and the Caucasian community are supposed to be for whatever reason at odds.
15:40And I know nobody could really intellectually explain that to me and roots hit the airwaves that people just lost their mind.
15:53And now that to me, I'm a slave now, you know, and, and, and that's my heritage slavery.
15:59And I know where part you missed that part when, when this happened from that point on, we were in this two camps, you know, and I never experienced anything culturally like that before in my life.
16:15And that has changed that changed our culture, our way of speaking, our way of interacting to me, to where we are now, where the BLM or this other nonsense can actually take root.
16:30But before that, was it perfect?
16:33No, but it wasn't like, you know, reparations and, you know,
16:38You know, they, they, they killed Lincoln, the guy who was actually going to give reparations, 40 acres and a mule people, you remember that?
16:48It never made sense to me.
16:49And that, and that, that, that morphed and that, um, you know, the snowball effect, the more and more I dug and dug and dug and dug, and the more I looked at law and, and, and, and, and how that's applied to, to, to, to our culture, um, and looked at
17:05The, the, the success that blacks have had in this country, where you go back to the Revolutionary War and before then, look at our culture, and I often write, and I'm, I'm, I'm, and I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm looking at a podcast right now, don't get ready to do.
17:27The absurdity that our history begins in 1965 to so many people is so repugnant to me, you know, it's just like, and then, and then, uh, I hear this, this, this, uh, regurgitation of this, we, we were slaves for 400 years.
17:47I'm like, wait, the country's not even 300 years old.
17:50So, so somehow the math don't really work to me.
17:53Somebody, somebody got, I mean, somebody got explaining that to me.
17:55How does that work?
17:56There were many, how does that work?
17:57Yeah, David Barton, great historian, works with Glenn Beck.
18:02He does a great job.
18:04He got me on this.
18:04He got me on this.
18:05Yeah.
18:05I've been to several David Barton speeches.
18:08Glenn Beck did this episode about black patriots.
18:11I'm like.
18:12Absolutely.
18:13A lot of free blacks brought for our nation.
18:18Yes.
18:19It's creation.
18:20For the hope of freedom and individualism, freedom for all biblical community, free Martin Luther King Jr., this leftist, cultural Marxist, racist garbage.
18:37You and I are of the same race.
18:40We have different skin tones.
18:43We may have different subcultures.
18:45We are of the same race, not a different race.
18:50Martin Luther King Jr., content of character.
18:54A whole lot of white people I know I wouldn't associate with has nothing to do with skin tone.
19:01Right.
19:02Same here.
19:03And that's what has fueled my wanting to go down this rabbit hole more and more and more because it's just so much that has been lied about.
19:16And it all seemed to be part of this grand scheme to keep us separate.
19:25Cultural Marxist, divide and conquer, identity politics.
19:29I've learned and look at this and I look at, see, when the Europeans came over, they, too, wanted to separate themselves.
19:39Like the thing, the students themselves between, you know, the elite to the proper.
19:47So they had to create this other set of white people.
19:52We can't all be Europeans or whatever.
19:54So now you are white people.
19:58And I'm the non-white.
20:02I'm Caucasian.
20:03So you're white people or what my grandparents used to call you're the crackers, you know, which you don't hear that often.
20:11I think the connotation, but that's still where we look at the separation of our classes, where there's an elite class of blacks here and there's an elite class of whites here.
20:25But they want to keep those who are not elites fighting amongst themselves so they can keep keep going with their wealth.
20:32But we, on the lower end, keep falling for this okie-dokie and not understanding that there is a reason why they don't want us to get along.
20:44And all his economics.
20:45Yeah.
20:50Kanye, who gets flaky at times, was involved with the creation of the Harriet movie.
20:57It came out years ago.
20:58Great movie.
20:59But even in that, they don't mention her as a Republican, right?
21:06She was part of the abolitionist movement.
21:09The whole foundation of the GOP here in Jackson, Michigan, as the abolitionist party.
21:17Lincoln, a Republican.
21:20A lot of people, kids now, we don't teach history.
21:24They think he was a Democrat.
21:25That's like, I mean, right?
21:27So, Tubb, and people don't know the NAACP, founded by abolitionist Republicans to protect, and it's the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People.
21:45That's not derogatory.
21:47If it were, then change the name of the group.
21:51Well, again, the NAACP was restored by W. Du Bois, and W. Du Bois, he was of the mindset of the elites.
22:01What people want to look at, when did the Negro people, as a community, leave the Republican Party, I point to that period of time on the Woodrow Wilson, where there was a battle going on between W. Du Bois and Booker T. Washington for the soul of the Negro community.
22:24Booker T. Washington, he was definitely a person who looked at having something to come to the table with, having your own, being one who had money, not necessarily wealthy, but had control of your own means.
22:48You know, being, you know, being frugal, being one who was of the independent, I don't need government kind of mindset.
23:01Well, W. Du Bois, he was of the elite mind.
23:06He was of, we're going to form a group, and we're going to tell the Negro people how to react as a group.
23:14So, W. Du Bois is definitely not a fan of mine.
23:18Yeah, but at the same time.
23:20And neither is the NWCP.
23:23NWCP is nothing fruitful, in my opinion, for the economic independence of the black community.
23:31Especially not today.
23:33How is it an advancement of colored people, again, it's in the name people, to kill your children in the womb?
23:40And still disproportionately, more blacks are killed in the womb than any other group per capita, per, you know, basis of population, whatnot.
23:53But my point with the NAACP, other abolitionists involved, and to protect gun rights of former slaves who were being slaughtered, both white and black Republicans, by the KKK, formed by the former slaveholder Democrats.
24:14So, I mean, they did some good, but I hear what you're saying, and I agree with you.
24:22What are you giving credit to the NWCP for?
24:26Well, for some help early on.
24:31For?
24:32For helping to want, at least want to.
24:36But again, actions, right?
24:38Trying, being part of protecting gun rights for blacks to be able to defend themselves against the KKK.
24:47Hey, most of the Jim Crow laws, the gun laws, all come from the left, and mainly why?
24:55Because you disarm black people.
24:57Okay, okay, okay, okay, yeah.
25:01Right?
25:02But again, we don't teach history, so people don't know any of that.
25:06Well, I mean, I think when you've got to look at the education system, you've got to look at, one, as I did in a recent podcast, the education system was never designed or meant to be under the auspices of the federal government.
25:24Correct.
25:25It's not missing the Constitution.
25:27The Department of Education is unconstitutional.
25:30It's very new, and people don't understand that that's only created under another socialist Democrat, Jimmy Carter.
25:40It's a very, very recent institution.
25:43But you would think people would, talk to people, you would think that it's been around since the beginning of the Republic.
25:52Yeah.
25:52And the general decline of education in America.
25:57And everywhere else goes even back a little further.
26:00To Thomas Dewey.
26:03People will remember the Dewey Decimal System.
26:06Well, he's the progressive, who's really regressive, who started us down this road to dumbing down our own children.
26:17Yeah, very much so, very much so.
26:18The education system is definitely where it all begins.
26:22And I did a recent podcast, breaking down Silent Weapons, Secret War.
26:29And that brought into how the elites look at education.
26:38Then there's another book, the dumbing down of education.
26:43A person who's actually an educator from inside described how everybody was designed and created to be almost robotic.
26:53You know, the bell rings, everything stops.
26:56The bell rings again, everything starts.
26:58So, and that's not really, that's not natural thinking, you know, at all.
27:04So, it's just robotic conditioning that we are all in.
27:09And now we look at not how we came to 2 plus 2 equal 4 or how the vowels come out together to form a word.
27:20We look at, we're great upon the end result.
27:24Yeah.
27:25Not to say how we got here.
27:26So, now we're having this educational system where no one cares about critical thinking.
27:34You know, critical thinking about how do we come to an opinion.
27:40We don't even ask, well, what do you think about something, Sally?
27:43What do you think about this, Johnny?
27:45It's not how you feel about this.
27:47How you feel about this, and that's a totally different part of our brain where when I was going, when you were going, we had to sound out words to get the word to come out.
28:01We had to show our work.
28:02How do we arrive at 2 plus 2 equal 4?
28:05Whatever.
28:07This new math and this.
28:10Tommy core garbage.
28:12Yeah.
28:12Tommy core nonsense.
28:14Don't learn.
28:15That's how kids don't.
28:16Well, it's contracting.
28:22People don't want to hear long stories or books or songs.
28:27They want everything here and now.
28:29Right.
28:30Common core tries to incorporate the algebraic show me your work and this is how you get there.
28:37But you don't need common core, show me work, manipulate what is 2 plus 2.
28:46No.
28:46That's for flashcards.
28:48Yes.
28:48If you can't understand that basic math based on memorization, then all the other math is worthless.
28:56But you hit the key words, conditioning.
29:00They want to indoctrinate, not educate, condition people how to think and what to think, not be, as you said, critical thinkers.
29:12And indeed, to bring it back to why you're here, why ask the why, or as I say, all the journalism tenants.
29:21Because, you know, I'm not for forcing things, but I would greatly encourage every child to take a journalism class, right?
29:31Because who, what, where, when, why, and how are important in every situation.
29:38And today's media, they just, they're not journalists, they're just reporters.
29:44Chuckie Schumer, what do you have to say?
29:47Tell us a lie and we'll just regurgitate it on air.
29:50No fact checking, no nothing, no pushback.
29:54But anyway, time has flown.
29:58And so, do you have a website for people to reach out to you?
30:04Sure.
30:05Of course.
30:06Project Third Eye Open.
30:08That's project, third, spelled out, the letter I, open, O-P-E-N-E-D.com.
30:17Okay.
30:18Your favorite social media platforms, definitely reach out to me there.
30:23And if you want to reach out to me directly, just do Tony L at project.iopen.com.
30:29And again, that's not L-M-N-O-P, that's E-L.
30:34Yeah, exactly, exactly.
30:36Well, thank you, Tony, for joining.
30:39This is why I don't script shows.
30:42It's why I don't send, oh, here's the standard questions I'll be asking you to guests.
30:48Nor do I expect you to say much about who you are and what you're about before you come on.
30:55Hey, we just open it up and whatever rabbit holes happen, we go down them here.
31:01Well, I just want to definitely encourage everybody to really, really look around and ask the question why,
31:06because there's a lot of crazy things going on.
31:09And there is a day of reckoning coming for this country.
31:15And it's not due to the American people.
31:18It's due to the primary contracts and agreements that the U.S. government got itself involved with years and years ago.
31:28And this pretty much took us down the wrong path.
31:39But the ignorance of the American people, not necessarily to blame the people themselves, but it is what it is.
31:47I mean, we are all ignorant of things we've yet to research ourselves.
31:53But when you look at how.
31:55Which is different than stupid, which is not wanting to learn.
31:58Yeah, yeah.
31:59It's a lack of knowledge.
32:01Stupidity to me is people, a person who just refuse to learn.
32:04But we have been created to be ignorant.
32:08Because if you look at people who, or look at the American people who grew up during your time, Joseph,
32:14it's not the same creature at all.
32:20And that's deliberate.
32:21And if we look around and we individually question, you know,
32:26because progress is supposed to be where we always add it on to the generation that this came before us.
32:35We're regressing.
32:37So, but if we all stop and think, how can this be?
32:41And once you start asking the question why and question how,
32:45we would have to put forth some effort and some energies to come to an answer
32:51and maybe a response to do something about it for ourselves.
32:57Yep.
32:58Yeah.
32:59The question why, as in motivation, matters, right?
33:04Why am I doing this show?
33:07My motivation matters because I'm a Christian and I care about others.
33:12I care about truth and reality.
33:16Right.
33:17Others are lying to you.
33:19Why?
33:19Because it's about power and control for them.
33:23Yes.
33:23Not caring about you.
33:25It's more money, more power for them.
33:29The ruling elites, as you use the word.
33:31I mean, people will say that and they will say that as a derogatory thing.
33:37We all want to be rich and wealthy.
33:40If we can, yeah.
33:42We all want to be maybe within their boardrooms when they're having discussions such as this.
33:48But in the manner that they're going about destroying this country, I can't speak for anybody else,
33:54but this country, I think, is what brings my hour up because our country was designed for free people, free-thinking people of all different colors and backgrounds.
34:07But the fact that we have been dumbed down, that now we are working against our best interests, working against our own country.
34:15That's where we also be, as free-thinking individuals, once you ask that question, why?
34:22I guess my people who do not want to do that, because now once you ask that question, now you've got to do something about it.
34:28Free people and free thinkers as well as religious people.
34:33John Adams said, our Constitution is for a religious, moral people.
34:40It is wholly inadequate for any other.
34:43Our Judeo-Christian ethics foundations of this nation, one of the reasons why I teach and preach from this pulpit, so to speak.
34:55Well, not just the ethics, but also the morality base as well, the moral education that comes from the Bible,
35:04which is why the Constitution was definitely founded on the Bible, the Judeo-Christian Bible.
35:12Yeah, okay.
35:13We could go for hours like I could do with most guests.
35:18So, but indeed, to wrap it up, Tony L-E-L, ProjectThirdEyeOpen.com, and the I is not I as an eyeball.
35:29It's in the letter I, in that case.
35:32With all the alphabet jokes I've done, this time it really is a letter.
35:38Very much so.
35:39All right.
35:40Thank you, Tony.
35:41Thank you, Joseph.
35:42Take care.
35:43God bless.
35:44Whoa, whoa, whoa.
35:48Wait, wait, wait.
35:50Don't go away yet.
35:52Couple thoughts I wanted to add on.
35:55Don't want to push this episode too much longer, though.
35:58Point I was partially trying to make regarding NAACP has to do with all kinds of organizations, is what I mean to say, right?
36:10No matter what they are, when they are formed, you sometimes have people with competing personal sub-agendas and motives, right?
36:24As an organization grows, you have more people come in, sometimes with their own personal sub-agenda, their own motives.
36:35They may not necessarily be looking to join and grab the rope in the tug-of-war of issues and pull in the same direction.
36:47There are competing issues.
36:50So there are good people and bad people in every organization, right?
36:56Take, for example, the ACLU.
37:00When I was running for office in the 90s, you can still see the archived campaign website of mine.
37:08I can't change it now because it's in archives, but it says an association with the ACLU.
37:16I sure wouldn't be saying that today.
37:20ACLU is nothing but an arm of the DNC today.
37:26There were good and bad in the ACLU then.
37:31It's all bad, in my opinion.
37:34Now, if I were running for office now, which I'm not going to be, my campaign site would say ACLJ, not ACLU, right?
37:48Say Southern Poverty Law Center, right?
37:51I don't know.
37:53In my opinion, I've only known them as negative leftists, arm of the DNC like the ACLU is now.
38:04There may have been a time when it was created.
38:07Good people with good intentions might have started it.
38:11I don't know.
38:12I don't know its history.
38:13All I know is I would have nothing to do with it today, and they are nothing but negative and destroying this nation.
38:21But anyway, the point, right, good and bad, people and everything, people have sub-agendas, their own motivations, not necessarily in line with an organization.
38:35And the other thing, right, shall be known by fruits, and show, don't tell.
38:41I don't care what you say.
38:44Your actions speak louder than words.
38:48And I had just gone to lunch, come back, and heard a song that was about boats, which sprang this thought.
38:57Is did Al Gore, Bernie Santarge, and Barack Obama and others buying boats to rise with all those waters they say are going to overflow and overrun all our coastal lands?
39:22Florida was supposed to be entirely underwater by now, did they buy boats so that they could rise with the waters they claim was going to flood us all under?
39:36No, they bought beachfront houses.
39:42Yeah, they're hypocrites.
39:45They're liars.
39:46They want you to give them money for their schemes, their cons, but they buy beachfront property, showing they don't believe what they say.
39:59Otherwise, as I'm saying, they'd be buying boats.
40:04So, and they're not their primary properties, of course, right?
40:08Their second, their third, their fourth mansions on the beach.
40:13And anyway, that's all.
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40:41No, not today.
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40:56Yeah.
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