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00:00Oh, I could tell you lots of stories about Curranborough.
00:25Poisonous mushrooms have killed three people
00:27and a man is in hospital fighting for life.
00:30As a result of suspected mushroom poisoning.
00:33The death gap mushroom poisoning is the Chernobyl of poisons.
00:36Erin Patterson from Liangatha decides to invite over for lunch her in-laws
00:40and she invites her estranged husband Simon.
00:43He decides to pull out.
00:44Pete Wellington is served.
00:46So devastated about what's happened.
00:48I love them.
00:49And three died.
00:50Do you know anything about a deal of drugging in your house?
00:53Why would she want to kill them?
00:55Could this all be a terrible accident?
00:57Erin Patterson has been arrested in a dramatic early morning raid on her Liangatha home.
01:02She's been charged with multiple counts of murder and attempted murder.
01:06But most significantly, four counts of attempted murder
01:09for trying to kill her husband Simon Patterson over a number of years.
01:27Since May 2022, we know Erin and Simon go on a camping trip together.
01:38They are separated.
01:39They've been separated for many years.
01:41But they were friends, they were texting, they were calling.
01:45They were going on holidays together quite frequently with and without the children.
01:52Simon recalls on one camping trip that he was eating a chicken curry.
01:57He remembered that Erin Patterson was cooking the meal,
01:59something he wasn't really keeping too close of an eye on.
02:03They went to bed in the tent that night and it was hours later he said he remembered waking
02:08up and becoming violently ill and then he ended up in hospital for 20-odd days and 16
02:14of those were in a coma.
02:17He had three different bowel resection surgeries.
02:20There was results that just didn't make sense.
02:23The hospital was running around trying to figure out why he was in such excruciating pain.
02:28This man was dying.
02:30His family had been told to come in and say goodbye to him,
02:33that this may be the final time that they ever get to see him.
02:38Simon believed that this camping trip formed part of a whole string of sinister attempts
02:44to take his life.
02:47But it was never ever put before the jury.
02:49In this world, there is God bless.
02:59By my hand, give a hope.
03:05By my heart, there is God bless.
03:11By my heart, there is God bless.
03:29By my heart, there is God bless.
03:36By my heart, there is God bless.
03:38I hear the sound
03:56Of distant moon
04:01Far away
04:08Far away
04:11And if they call
04:16For me
04:20Then I must go
04:27And you will stay
04:31At the moment it's very quiet.
04:34It's almost like that feeling that people are just sitting and waiting now.
04:39You know, the time has come for those to have their day in court.
04:43There will be a bit of interest around the region about what is the evidence, what is there
04:52that's potentially damning or what is it that's possibly missing.
04:56There must be more to the story than what we have heard.
05:04Once there's an outcome of the case, you know, that'll be when a lot of people will be able
05:07to process their grief and to decide to move on.
05:10There's a lot of people in our community that will need closure.
05:17So I've got the court sketch from Erin Patterson's first appearance in Moorway.
05:22Um, immediately after she was charged.
05:36So this was November 3rd, 2023 and, um, it's signed by the sketch artist and, um, this was a gift that I got from my partner because we're both, um, working the news and, you know, this is the kind of, kind of stuff that we're going to do.
06:06We gift each other, which makes me think like, like, feel like a bit like of a crazy lady.
06:10And then you've got the photo of Erin's first interview, the only interview she's ever given to the media or comments she's ever given outside of her house.
06:21I took that one.
06:22I got nominated for a quote for this one.
06:24That's why it's printed.
06:26And then I've got this one as well, which is a, um, it's a scientific drawing of the Death Cab mushroom.
06:32That too was a birthday gift from a friend.
06:35So there you go.
06:36I've got like a little collection of, um, mementos from the mushroom, mushroom case.
06:50Interestingly, in this case, the trial was held at Morwell.
06:53From the 50s, 60s, right to the end of the 80s, Morwell was a boom town.
07:03Morwell might only be 50 kilometres from Langatha, but in terms of culture, it's nothing like.
07:11There's definitely a good community here.
07:13I mean, sometimes we get a bit of a bad rap.
07:15Morwell's a cold town.
07:18It's a place that is in the process of reinventing itself.
07:22There's a lot of youth crime in the area and there's just no resources for anyone.
07:27I will be honest, a lot of the time it's like a ghost town.
07:30Um, so just seeing so many people around is a nice change.
07:34The defence chose to do it in Morwell in the belief that the local people were less likely to convict.
07:41Yeah, I think folk are really interested in the case.
07:43They've all got an opinion on what's going on.
07:45It's actually bigger than I expected.
07:48Um, more reporters, I think, than I expected.
07:52Day one of the highly anticipated mushroom murder trial gets underway here in Morwell.
07:59Day one of the highly anticipated...
08:01Erin Patterson has pleaded not guilty to all charges...
08:05...and has always maintained her innocence.
08:07I'll go again.
08:09Something we've been waiting for for nearly two years, it's finally starting.
08:13It felt like we were driving up and unpacking the circus tent
08:19and erecting it around the front of the courthouse.
08:25We've got these really smart, big, noted legal minds
08:31that have come in to this small little country town of Morwell
08:34that are trying to convince your average Joes of why they should pick one side.
08:40There was a line every day to get in.
08:43There was an atmosphere outside of anticipation.
08:46It's this incredibly important murder trail
08:49that's made international news everywhere.
08:51And you're in this, like, tiny, suburban-looking court.
08:54Oh, yeah.
08:54Thanks, ma'am.
08:56Port four in the Morwell law courts.
08:58You walk in the door.
08:59The jury box is basically directly in front of you.
09:02Then we've got two big banks of public seating.
09:06On the right-hand side of the bar table,
09:08we have the Crown Prosecution Team being led by Dr. Nanette Rogers,
09:12who is one of the sharpest legal minds in the field.
09:15She's supported by Jane Warren
09:17and two other members of the prosecution team as well,
09:20including Sarah Lenthal.
09:22On the left-hand side, leading the defence team
09:24is highly respected criminal barrister Colin Mandy Essie.
09:30Seated to his left was his junior barrister, Sophie Stafford.
09:34Across the table, supporting them,
09:36the two solicitors are Bill Duke,
09:37who's a very senior legal figure within Melbourne,
09:41and Ophelia Holloway.
09:43But perhaps the most incredible thing about the whole thing
09:46is that Erin is right behind you.
09:48That never happens.
09:50You're never that close to an accused.
09:51So close, I could almost feel her breath on the back of my neck.
09:55Every time you want to look at her,
09:57you've got to turn around and look at this woman.
10:04We're about to start the trial.
10:06Mouthguards are in, and then a bombshell.
10:09Serious charges have been dropped
10:11against accused mushroom lunch killer Erin Patterson.
10:14Charges of attempting to murder her estranged husband
10:16will not proceed.
10:18I don't know how everybody in the room
10:20didn't gasp in that moment.
10:22It may have been that it was a difficult thing
10:25for the prosecution to kind of justify it.
10:27You know, there was less evidence
10:29than compared to the lunch charges.
10:31So let's drop it.
10:32Allegations without any forensic backup
10:35would, in the judge's view,
10:37pollute the stream of justice.
10:40It was very hard to stay composed in that moment
10:42because you could imagine Simon Patterson
10:45hearing about the fact that his testimony
10:47will now sound very, very, very different.
11:01Simon Patterson arrived at court
11:04ready to face his estranged wife for the first time
11:07since she was accused of poisoning his entire family.
11:12So on the 1st of May, on the third day of the trial,
11:15we get the first major prosecution witness,
11:18Simon Patterson, Erin's estranged husband.
11:21A lot of what Simon talks about
11:24when he's in the witness box
11:25is his relationship with Erin,
11:27how they met, how they came to be a couple,
11:29how their relationship slowly fell apart.
11:33For most of Simon and Erin's relationship
11:35up until their separation,
11:37it sounded like Donna and Gail
11:39had a pretty good relationship with Erin.
11:42Donna and Erin had pretty similar interests.
11:44They were both really curious, busy minds.
11:46And so they would bond over, you know,
11:48things like science, world affairs,
11:50and they would talk about a lot of those topics
11:52of conversation all the time.
11:53So they had a pretty special bond.
11:57Erin inherited a large amount of money from her family.
12:02She loaned money to her extended family.
12:06She was more than generous to Simon.
12:08The way Simon stepped through
12:10how Erin had loaned, you know, all his siblings money,
12:13I found it really perhaps revealing
12:15in the fact that Erin didn't have much else
12:17or many other people in her life.
12:20You know, that's how important
12:21the Patterson family were to her.
12:25Simon's main role in this trial
12:27is to talk about this turning point
12:29in his relationship with Erin,
12:30that from the prosecution's perspective
12:32is where things started to go south.
12:35And that's the moment that gives Erin
12:37a semblance of a motive
12:38to have murdered Simon's family.
12:42There's this situation where Erin feels like
12:44she hasn't been invited to Gail's 70th birthday party.
12:47So she's having a conversation with Simon around that.
12:50She feels particularly upset about the fact
12:58that she's been left off the guest list.
13:01She, I believe, feels that she's been abandoned
13:05by this family that she's embraced.
13:07I want to ask you about 2022.
13:24There was a change in the relationship, was there?
13:26Yes.
13:28She said that she discovered that my tax return
13:31for the previous financial year
13:33had for the first time noted that we were separated.
13:36It was my understanding it was going to have implications
13:39on family tax benefit.
13:41She was upset about it.
13:43You know, he lists himself as separated in his tax return,
13:46which means that now she needs to apply
13:47for child support payments.
13:49It's only like $40 or so a month
13:52that Simon needs to pay Erin for child support.
13:54Erin's getting annoyed, basically saying, like,
13:56this is the bare minimum.
13:57This is not all you need to pay.
13:59This is just the baseline.
14:02She's sending messages to both Don, Gail, and Simon,
14:05basically saying, I need Don and Gail
14:07to decide on what it is that was to happen financially.
14:10What couldn't be said during the trial
14:13is that typically these sort of assessments are made
14:16based on, you know, taxable income,
14:19and in the kind of year leading up to that,
14:21Simon had been, you know, incredibly unwell
14:23because he says Erin poisoned him.
14:26And I'm cross-examined on my finances,
14:28and I'm made out to be a villain
14:30when I want to scream out to the jury,
14:34this crazy woman tried to kill me three times,
14:37but I can't do that.
14:40I can't do that.
15:10The pre-trial hearings are designed
15:15to test the strength of the evidence
15:18that'll eventually go to trial.
15:20It's very tip and iceberg, really,
15:22you know, when you sort of think
15:23about big criminal trials like this,
15:24you've got, you know, the trial's the tip,
15:26and there is this huge iceberg of evidence
15:29the jury's not going to hear below it.
15:32It's almost like an off-Broadway rehearsal.
15:34You start with a full break of 52 cards
15:37and you might go into the trial with 26 cards.
15:43And it was here in pre-trial
15:45that we learnt for the first time
15:47that it's Simon Patterson's version of events
15:49that he had eaten meals
15:51that his estranged wife had been cooking for him.
15:54He would become incredibly unwell
15:57after eating food that she'd prepared
15:59for him and for nobody else,
16:02that it was when they were away together
16:04and that there was no other explanation
16:07for that particular, you know, severe illness.
16:10He hadn't really confided in anybody.
16:12He'd told really only his doctor, Christopher Ford.
16:16The doctor's advice was to start keeping a diary,
16:20to start trying to put together the pieces himself.
16:23What are the kind of consistent things here?
16:24What was I doing in the lead-up
16:25to all these instances of being sick?
16:28And he then kind of pins it on Aaron.
16:31He had us on the edge of our seats
16:32as he was talking about the different meals that he ate
16:35and then the horrendous symptoms
16:36that he says he suffered afterwards.
16:39The first was in November 2021.
16:42He recalled that Aaron Patterson
16:43and had given him some penne bolognese to take home,
16:46which he ate the next day.
16:48In May 2022, while camping with Aaron,
16:51he ate a chicken curry prepared by her
16:53and ended up in hospital.
16:55This was a really quite significant event
16:57in Simon Patterson's life.
17:00Simon wrote in a Facebook post
17:01that his condition was so serious,
17:03his family were asked to come
17:05and say goodbye to him twice.
17:08In July 2022, he became unwell again
17:11after eating a beef stew cooked by Aaron.
17:14And finally, in September 2022,
17:17while on another camping trip with his estranged wife,
17:20he once again became ill
17:21after eating a chicken and vegetable wrap
17:23Aaron had pre-prepared.
17:25He was asked what he remembered.
17:26Did they share the same dish?
17:28No.
17:28He would say Aaron Patterson
17:29would eat something different than me
17:31or she would prepare it
17:32and I wasn't watching.
17:34When he was recounting this in pre-trial,
17:37he was really, really distressed
17:39about what she may have done to him.
17:42Simon nearly died from something,
17:45you know, and he wasn't struck by lightning.
17:47The defence then were arguing,
17:49this is a suspicion, this is a fear,
17:51but where's the medical evidence?
17:53Where is the evidence that shows the cause
17:56of this particular illness?
17:58And then at the 11th hour,
17:59we know the charges against Simon Patterson
18:01were thrown out.
18:02That was a massive moment
18:05because what falls away with those charges
18:08is also a lot of the evidence.
18:10Document after document,
18:12internet after internet search,
18:13book after book,
18:14potentially about poisonings that had been accessed,
18:17the Crown says, by Aaron Patterson,
18:18was disappearing.
18:20Exactly what is in or out often
18:22and happened in this case
18:24wasn't decided on
18:26until what felt like hours
18:28before the trial was about to begin.
18:31In Aaron Patterson's case,
18:32what happened in pre-trial
18:33was very, very different to the case
18:35that proceeded to a jury.
18:36The day before the lunch,
18:52Simon sent a text to Aaron
18:53saying that he wasn't going to be coming
18:55because he felt uncomfortable
18:56attending the lunch.
18:58And what we get in response
19:00is a pretty telling text from Aaron.
19:06And she's bloody annoyed
19:10that Simon won't turn up
19:11and says, you know,
19:12I've slaved over this all week.
19:15So the jury's sitting in there,
19:16listening to Simon,
19:18laying all this stuff out,
19:21but then they're not hearing
19:22half the story
19:23that we've been able to hear
19:24in the pre-trial.
19:25There's almost this information vacuum
19:27because they all knew
19:28those charges existed,
19:29but he's not talking about it.
19:31No one's asking him about it
19:33and they're just not going to hear about it.
19:35There was so much tension
20:01in the room today.
20:02Yeah.
20:02I mean, you could cut it with a knife.
20:05One thing that really surprised me today,
20:07we heard how many family members
20:09are expected to come
20:10and attend the hearing.
20:11I've never before really seen
20:12an area of a court
20:14sectioned off just for family.
20:15Yeah.
20:16But I think it'll be,
20:17it'll be really interesting
20:18to see them coming in
20:19to see engaging with it
20:20because I was actually
20:21quite surprised as well
20:22because I thought
20:23they'll tune in remotely
20:24being given a link.
20:26Why would you come?
20:27And keep themselves.
20:27They might not have been
20:28in the same room as Aaron
20:29since before she was charged, right?
20:31So there might be an element
20:33of wanting to see her
20:34and look at her.
20:35You're in public space,
20:36essentially,
20:37and that must be incredibly hard
20:39to hear some of the things
20:40they're going to have to hear
20:41and know that everyone
20:44can see them in there.
20:45It's probably the thing
20:47that stays with me
20:48more than anything else
20:49when covering court stories.
20:51Seeing the family
20:52of the deceased
20:54look at an accused killer,
20:57it's incredibly powerful.
20:59You can watch
21:00this person's entire body,
21:03their face, their posture.
21:05You can almost watch
21:06their blood pressure rise
21:08as they turn and look
21:09at the person
21:10who is accused of, you know,
21:11killing a loved one.
21:13I think it says a lot
21:14about how a person is grieving,
21:18how a person is processing
21:19the worst thing
21:20that could possibly happen to them.
21:22It's going to be a long six weeks.
21:31Thanks.
21:33There was the two faces
21:35of Erin Patterson
21:36that were really portrayed
21:37to the jury.
21:38One of this God-loving woman
21:41who took her children to church
21:43and invited her loved ones
21:44over for meals,
21:45but online,
21:46the prosecution really painted
21:47a different version
21:49of Erin Patterson.
21:51Has anyone seen
21:52the news in Victoria
21:53about four people
21:54killed by eating mushrooms?
21:57It's a homicide case.
21:59I think it's Erin Patterson
22:01from our group.
22:03Oh my God,
22:04all we talked about
22:05was murder.
22:06Oh my God.
22:08The group name
22:08was Keep Kelly Lane
22:09Behind Bars.
22:10Kelly Lane was a woman
22:12who was convicted
22:12of killing her baby,
22:14a baby that was never found.
22:15There was a big debate going on
22:18whether Kelly had faced
22:20a travesty of justice
22:22or whether she was actually guilty.
22:25Erin was on the guilty side
22:26and so was I
22:27and that's how I met her.
22:30I remember meeting Erin
22:31because she was really,
22:32really smart.
22:33She really got into detail
22:35about the case.
22:37She was really good
22:38at finding information.
22:39I guess that's what
22:41we really bonded over
22:42in the beginning.
22:44Erin and I connected
22:45a bit over
22:46what I was going through
22:48in my life
22:49with my breakup
22:50and also,
22:51you know,
22:52just what was happening
22:53with my ex-husband
22:54and she kind of related
22:56to some of that
22:57with Simon.
22:59Well, see,
22:59those people,
23:00they were her
23:01intimate acquaintances.
23:03The group was her
23:04whole world.
23:05Erin was extremely invested.
23:07I don't feel like
23:08the friendship was fake.
23:10I feel like,
23:10I feel like she did,
23:12she did actually
23:14become friends with us
23:15and I feel
23:16she called us family
23:18and I feel like
23:21when the group
23:23started to fall apart
23:25and we started
23:26to pull away,
23:27that's when she started
23:29to become aggressive.
23:31Erin had fake profiles
23:33that she was using
23:34to attack us
23:35and then she would
23:36come in under
23:37her real profile
23:38and stick up for us
23:39and have goes
23:40at the fake profile
23:41and it was almost like
23:43it was a way
23:43to kind of build
23:44a stronger relationship
23:45with people
23:46and align with people.
23:48At the end,
23:48when I had a conflict
23:50with Erin,
23:51she was very confrontational.
23:54She came across
23:55as a sledgehammer
23:56and so it made me wonder
24:01is she an introvert
24:03or was she
24:04just fitting in?
24:09I think my close relationship
24:10with Erin ended
24:11around March 2020.
24:13There were three women
24:14who were part of that group
24:15that gave evidence
24:16to the jury
24:17and they all gave
24:18varying accounts
24:20of what the interactions
24:21were like
24:21with her.
24:22During the time
24:23that you knew
24:24Erin Patterson,
24:25did she ever discuss
24:26or post information
24:27about her relationship
24:28with her husband,
24:29Simon?
24:30Yes, she did.
24:31She had some concerns
24:33about him paying his share
24:34and that it was
24:34very controlling.
24:36She used the word
24:37coercive at times.
24:39They were the people
24:41that she trusted,
24:42they were the people
24:42that she spoke to
24:44outside of the Pattersons
24:46and the Wilkinsons
24:47that were her support network
24:49in the real world.
24:52Her online profile,
24:54it showed an ugly side to her
24:56and also venting
24:58about her own in-laws.
25:00The messages
25:12were being displayed
25:13on these giant
25:15television screens
25:16on different sides
25:17of the courtroom.
25:23Erin Patterson's
25:24darkest secrets
25:25were really in that moment
25:26being absorbed
25:28by everybody.
25:30You know,
25:36for the first time
25:37we see that she is
25:38really annoyed
25:39and basically
25:40they're dead to me.
25:42I think understandably
25:43a person's communication
25:44style between
25:46their Baptist church
25:48in-laws
25:48and their online
25:50true crime friends
25:51is going to be
25:52a little bit different.
25:54The way she was speaking
25:55with her online friends
25:56was vulgar.
25:58It was rude,
25:59it was angry,
26:00it was disrespectful.
26:00But it's another
26:02layer
26:03in the deck
26:04of a person
26:07who
26:08can get very angry
26:10and hold a grudge.
26:11a world-renowned
26:29fungi expert
26:30called to give evidence
26:31in his own backyard.
26:33Tom May.
26:34He is, I'm going to say,
26:37Australia's premier
26:40mycologist.
26:40Can you tell the jury,
26:43please, about
26:44iNaturalist?
26:44So, iNaturalist
26:47is a publicly accessible
26:48website.
26:49It's where members of the public
26:51can make observations
26:53about nature.
26:54Do you have a profile
26:55on that site?
26:56iNaturalist.
26:57I do have a profile
26:58on iNaturalist
26:59and the profile name
27:01is Funky Tom.
27:10So, I think the first time
27:13that iNaturalist
27:13came to mind
27:14was when Tom May
27:15was giving evidence
27:16and he was being quizzed
27:17about iNaturalist.
27:18iNaturalist is a site
27:21where anybody can post
27:22photographs
27:23of living things.
27:26You've got the date,
27:28a GPS location
27:29and you've got an image
27:32that can then be sorted out
27:34with AI.
27:36The downside to it
27:37is the quality of the data
27:39is extremely variable.
27:41Posts that have been made
27:42by Tom May
27:43you can 100% trust
27:45but lots of other posts
27:48on May 21st, 2023
27:51Dr. Tom May
27:52identifies deathcap mushrooms
27:54in the Autrum area
27:55and takes a picture
27:56and posts about it
27:57on the iNaturalist website.
27:59There's a separate post
28:00that was made
28:00by Christine McKenzie
28:01in the Lark area
28:02on the 18th of April
28:03that also identifies
28:05deathcap mushrooms.
28:07A post that had identified
28:09mushrooms in Autrum
28:12just in the outskirts
28:13of Carambara
28:14and so it was through that
28:15that I was like
28:15maybe that is the next
28:17obvious step
28:18is to have a look at
28:19where that location is
28:22and what that looks like.
28:29Police have found evidence
28:30in Erin Patterson's devices
28:32that she had previously accessed
28:33the iNaturalist website
28:34and don't searches
28:35for deathcap mushrooms.
28:40So basically you've got
28:42the listing that's
28:43within her local area
28:44and it wouldn't have taken long
28:45for her to drive out here
28:46and this is the exact spot
28:49where Tom May
28:51found deathcap mushrooms
28:53in May 2023
28:54and these mushrooms
28:56could potentially be
28:58you know
28:59the murder weapon
28:59in the case.
29:00and now the prosecution
29:04needs to find out
29:05whether Erin's phone
29:06was in those same areas
29:07at the same time
29:08as those posts
29:09were made in 2023
29:10and in order to do that
29:13they call
29:13the premier expert
29:15in cell phone tower data
29:16Dr Matthew Sorrell.
29:19Now normally I'm given
29:21a week's worth of records
29:22or a month's worth of records
29:23or a day or an hour.
29:25In this case
29:26I had four and a half years
29:28of Erin's phone call records.
29:32In the end I was asked
29:33to examine three things.
29:35On the 28th of April 2023
29:36whether Erin's phone
29:38visited Locke.
29:39On the 22nd of May
29:41whether Erin's phone
29:43visited both Locke
29:45and Outram.
29:46The data that I see
29:47it's like the matrix
29:48it's numbers, numbers, numbers, numbers
29:50and you dive in
29:52and when you see something
29:54in that pattern
29:55it's really satisfying.
29:58I'm going to show you
29:59a tool shortly
29:59which blows minority report
30:01out of the water.
30:03What this map shows us
30:04is if Erin did visit
30:07the mushroom field
30:08on the 22nd of May
30:10then Erin's data session
30:13basically tells me
30:15that these are the possible routes
30:17that she could have taken.
30:18We can take that reach map
30:20starting in Lee and Gatha
30:21ending up at the
30:23Outram Mushroom Field.
30:25Our first connection here
30:26from Lee and Gatha
30:27immediately tells us
30:29that if she's on this journey
30:31she's not going this way.
30:34Scroll that forward
30:35in time
30:36next connection
30:39tells us
30:41once again
30:42still here
30:44this lines up.
30:47Same map
30:47this is the Outram Bay Station
30:49now connecting at 11.18
30:51for the first time.
30:53That gives me a window
30:54of 11.24
30:55to 11.50
30:57where the only connection
30:58I've got
30:59is the Outram Bay Station.
31:00Little yellow marker here
31:01is where the mushroom field was
31:04and we've only got
31:07connections to Outram now.
31:09When she goes home
31:10this gets pretty interesting.
31:13So she leaves
31:14this area
31:15at about 11.40
31:17we've got this weird
31:18connection to Foster North.
31:20Foster North makes no sense
31:21except that Foster North
31:24has a direct clear line of sight
31:25to an area
31:27just north
31:28of the mushroom field
31:29where the Outram Bay Station
31:32doesn't.
31:33So that's
31:34that's crazy.
31:36Now
31:36Erin's phone
31:38does visit
31:39the Lock area
31:40on the 28th of April
31:42and
31:42I've got
31:43a single indication
31:44that she
31:45is connected
31:47to the right
31:47bay station
31:48to the right antenna
31:49that covers
31:50the Lock township.
31:52And I've got
31:53about an hour period
31:54where I don't have
31:55any connection records
31:56and then her phone's
31:58moving away from Lock.
32:00Scenarios
32:00phone was left in the car
32:02while she was picking
32:03Death Cat Mushrooms
32:03sure
32:04or
32:05went to a cafe
32:07sat down
32:08had a coffee with somebody
32:09phone sitting on the table
32:10not in use
32:11sure
32:12could she have visited
32:14this mushroom field
32:15on the 22nd of May
32:16yes
32:17does the evidence
32:18support
32:19that scenario
32:21yes
32:22does it give us timing
32:23yes
32:24did she go there
32:26can't say that
32:28my purpose is not
32:30to convict
32:31the accused
32:32my purpose
32:34is to ensure
32:35that the evidence
32:35is properly understood
32:37in its proper context
32:39she could have
32:44potentially accessed
32:45the iNaturalist website
32:46and then travelled
32:47to that area
32:48and picked up
32:49those mushrooms
32:49took them home
32:51dehydrated them
32:52and put them
32:53in the beef wellingtons
32:54there are only two people
33:00two witnesses
33:01that can actually tell you
33:03what happened
33:03at that lunch
33:04on the 29th of July
33:062023
33:06and they are
33:07Ian Wilkinson
33:08the only person
33:09the only guests
33:10that survived the lunch
33:12and Erin Patterson
33:13the person who cooked the meal
33:14Ian has a bit of a commanding
33:17presence about him
33:18he's the Baptist pastor
33:21at the Carambara Baptist Church
33:22he always wears
33:24a little Jesus fish
33:25pin to his lapel
33:26I was once told
33:28by a local
33:29that if the town
33:30had a flag
33:30Ian Wilkinson's face
33:31would be on it
33:32as he was brought
33:35into the courtroom
33:36in front of the jury
33:37he actually looked
33:38directly at Erin Patterson
33:40in the dock
33:41there's something
33:43really powerful
33:43about seeing this man
33:44that's been in the brink
33:45of death
33:46walk back into a courtroom
33:47and face Erin Patterson
33:49to tell his truth
33:50I want to ask you
33:53about your relationship
33:54with Erin Patterson
33:55how would you describe
33:57your relationship
33:58with her?
33:59I would say
33:59our relationship
34:00was friendly
34:01amicable
34:02it didn't have
34:03much depth
34:04I think we were
34:05more like acquaintances
34:07we didn't see
34:08a great deal
34:08of each other
34:09can I ask you
34:11how did it come about
34:12that you attended
34:13that lunch?
34:15Erin extended
34:15an invitation
34:16through Heather
34:17at church
34:18Erin walks up
34:20to Gail and Heather
34:21who are standing
34:21around just
34:23after the service
34:24has concluded
34:24and she approaches
34:26them and says
34:26like hey
34:27I would like to
34:28invite you over
34:28to have lunch
34:29at my place
34:30on the 29th of July
34:31please bring Don
34:33and bring Ian
34:33I'm going to invite
34:34Simon also
34:35she tells Simon
34:37that the reason
34:38for the lunch
34:39was that she had
34:40received some serious
34:41medical news
34:42how did you feel
34:44about the invitation
34:45we were very happy
34:47to be invited
34:48yes
34:48it seemed like
34:50maybe our relationship
34:51with Erin
34:52was going to improve
34:53Ian's testimony
34:55in court
34:55basically unlocks
34:56for us three key
34:57elements that we
34:58didn't know
34:59back in August
35:00first of those
35:02is that the beef
35:03wellington was actually
35:04individual pasties
35:05and not the log
35:06the second of those
35:08was the fact
35:08that the beef
35:09wellington was served
35:10on different
35:10coloured plates
35:11what type of plate
35:14from the descriptions
35:15that you have given
35:16did you eat from
35:18I ate from a grey plate
35:20Heather
35:20a grey plate
35:22Gail
35:23a grey plate
35:24Don
35:25a grey plate
35:26and Erin
35:27a rusty coloured plate
35:29orangey tan plates
35:31whatever it was
35:32prior to eating
35:35the meal
35:36was anything
35:37done
35:38or said
35:39we said
35:40grace
35:40after the lunch
35:45had been eaten
35:45was there any
35:46further conversation
35:47yes
35:49what was that about
35:50after the lunch
35:52Erin announced
35:53that she had
35:54cancer
35:55a third element
35:57that Ian also revealed
35:58is that Erin told them
36:00that she had been
36:00diagnosed with
36:01ovarian cancer
36:02and that she didn't
36:03know how to tell
36:04the children
36:04the prosecution
36:06also backs that
36:07version of events
36:07with a series
36:08of screenshots
36:09that police were able
36:10to recover
36:11from her devices
36:12what they showed
36:13were basically
36:14screenshots of searches
36:15that had been done
36:16on Google
36:17about cancer
36:18specifically ovarian cancer
36:19and what the
36:21prosecution say
36:22that this means
36:23is basically
36:23that she was using
36:24those searches
36:25to make her story
36:26seem more realistic
36:28and when they heard
36:29that she had cancer
36:30they prayed for her
36:32they prayed for her
36:35and they're about to die
36:36the lunch concludes
36:45around 2.30
36:46eventually they all
36:47go to bed
36:47everything seems fine
36:49and it is around
36:50midnight
36:50both Ian and Heather
36:52start feeling sick
36:53they report having
36:54to do trips
36:55back and forth
36:55to the toilet
36:56all throughout the night
36:57simultaneously
36:59as Ian and Heather
37:00are also falling sick
37:01Don and Gail
37:02are experiencing
37:02similar symptoms
37:04to the point that
37:05by the time
37:05the Sunday morning
37:06comes
37:06they feel compelled
37:07to call an ambulance
37:08and get to the hospital
37:09before they even arrive
37:25to Leongatha hospital
37:26Dr Chris Webster
37:27gets a phone call
37:28from Simon's doctor
37:29Dr Chris Ford
37:30that will change
37:31his approach
37:32to everything
37:32so the phone call
37:36was from
37:37Dr Chris Ford
37:38who was informing me
37:42that his patients
37:43parents
37:45had eaten a meal
37:47at his ex-partner's house
37:49and they were unwell
37:51and Dr Ford
37:53indicated to me
37:55that there was
37:56a suspicion
37:57of deliberate
37:59poisoning
38:00I thought it was bizarre
38:01well I wasn't allowed
38:02to say any of this stuff
38:03at the trial
38:04things that I'm talking
38:06about at the moment
38:07were ruled
38:07inadmissible
38:08by the time I
38:15made my way
38:17to urgent care
38:18Ian and Heather
38:19had already been
38:21positioned
38:21within the
38:23plaster room
38:24as in plaster cast
38:26we use it
38:27as an isolation room
38:28they looked unwell
38:30but not distressed
38:32they were both
38:33quite conscious
38:35and alert
38:36they're responding
38:38to the treatment
38:39in terms of
38:40the rehydration
38:40the moment
38:42everything changed
38:44was the phone call
38:46from Dr Beth Morgan
38:47which was
38:49the following morning
38:50and she told me
38:51that she'd been
38:51looking after
38:52Don and Gail
38:53by Monday morning
38:55Don and Gail
38:56have been taken
38:57to Dandenong Hospital
38:58where they've been
38:58placed under the care
38:59of Dr Beth Morgan
39:00the lunch was
39:03consumed at lunchtime
39:04and they didn't have
39:05any symptoms
39:05until 12 hours later
39:07this would be
39:08more indicative
39:09of a serious
39:09toxin syndrome
39:10as opposed
39:11to a food poisoning
39:12the toxicologist
39:14suggested that
39:15if it was
39:16related to mushrooms
39:17it was possibly
39:18caused by the
39:19ingestion
39:19of the Amanita
39:21phalloides mushroom
39:22yeah I woke up
39:24pretty quickly
39:25after I heard that
39:26the doorbell
39:29or the call button
39:30had been pressed
39:31and I sort of said
39:33oh look sorry
39:34we've got unwell patients
39:36that's why
39:37we've kept you waiting
39:38sorry about that
39:38why are you here
39:41she said
39:42either I think
39:44I've got gastro
39:44or I've got gastro
39:45and I was like
39:47what's your name
39:49and she said
39:51Erin Patterson
39:52I was like
39:52oh fuck
39:52did you bring her
40:02through the urgent
40:03care center
40:04I did
40:05I said there's a concern
40:07of death cat mushroom
40:08poisoning
40:09where did you get
40:10the mushrooms
40:11what did she say
40:13it was a single
40:15word response
40:16Woolworths
40:18I was like
40:21yeah
40:21nah
40:22there's
40:22there's no point
40:23talking to her
40:24anymore
40:24because
40:25she's a liar
40:26if she looked
40:32genuinely
40:32concerned that
40:34four people
40:35were dying
40:36I probably
40:38would have
40:38talked to her
40:39more
40:39or you know
40:40sought out
40:41more information
40:41but
40:42I was like
40:44it was
40:50quite
40:52interesting
40:53to me
40:53I'm going to be
40:54careful of the words
40:55I use
40:55Erin didn't
40:57go over to
40:59Ian
40:59she didn't go
41:01over to Heather
41:01and
41:03she didn't ask
41:04them
41:04how they were
41:05she didn't interact
41:07with them
41:07she didn't say
41:08oh
41:09sorry
41:10for
41:12the death cat
41:13mushrooms in the
41:14beef wellington
41:14there was no
41:15interaction
41:17at all
41:18between them
41:19which
41:19I thought
41:21you're not even
41:22going to ask them
41:23how they are
41:23when you're in
41:24the same room
41:25two metres away
41:25from each other
41:26it was
41:26fucking
41:27that close
41:28they were as
41:29far away
41:30as you and I
41:30are from each
41:31other
41:31did you become
41:33aware that
41:35Erin Patterson
41:35was no longer
41:36in the urgent
41:37care centre
41:38yes I did
41:39I
41:40completely
41:41was oblivious
41:43to the discharge
41:44against medical
41:44advice
41:45how did you
41:47become aware
41:48of that
41:48I asked
41:49where she
41:50was
41:50I kind of
41:52censored myself
41:53in court a little
41:54bit because I
41:54I said to Kylie
41:56where the fuck
41:57is she
41:58and Kylie
41:59said
41:59well she discharged
42:01herself against
42:02medical advice
42:02I like
42:04Kylie I just
42:05told her that
42:06she'd been exposed
42:07to death
42:07cap mushrooms
42:08it's kind of
42:09there in the name
42:10death
42:10it's not like
42:13there's good
42:13outcomes with
42:14this
42:14and then Kylie's
42:17like oh she said
42:18she had some
42:18things to do
42:19well fucking
42:20great now I'm
42:21going to have to
42:22call the cops
42:23to get her back
42:25I took advantage
42:26of the fact that
42:27I knew my phone
42:28call was being
42:28recorded
42:29to get out
42:30some foundation
42:32information
42:32that may not
42:34have been
42:34an opportunity
42:35to do so
42:36later
42:36this is Dr Chris
42:40Webster calling
42:41from Lee and
42:42Gaffer hospital
42:42and I have a
42:45concern regarding
42:46a patient that
42:47presented here
42:49earlier but has
42:50left the building
42:51and is potentially
42:53exposed to a
42:55fatal toxin
42:57from mushroom
42:58poisoning
42:58and I've tried
42:59several times
43:00to get hold
43:02of her on
43:02her mobile phone
43:03mushroom poisoning
43:05you said
43:06yeah so there
43:07were five people
43:08that ate a meal
43:09on Saturday
43:09and two of them
43:12are in intensive
43:12care at
43:14Dandenong hospital
43:15two have just
43:16been transferred
43:17from Lee and Gaffer
43:18hospital to
43:18Dandenong hospital
43:19and Erin
43:21presented this
43:22morning with
43:23symptoms of
43:24poisoning
43:24and what happened
43:25when she presented
43:26she's got up
43:26and left
43:27while I was
43:28attending the
43:28other patients
43:29the nurse
43:30informed me
43:30that she had
43:31discharged herself
43:32against medical
43:33advice
43:33she was only
43:34here for five
43:34minutes
43:35I must have
43:43seen her walk
43:44in when she
43:45came back
43:45an hour and
43:46a half later
43:47I was like
43:48okay well
43:49let's
43:49she's back
43:50and I
43:51said look
43:52there could
43:54be some
43:54leftover
43:54Beth Wellington
43:55at the property
43:56Erin's here
43:58in the hospital
43:59she's come
43:59back
44:00let me go
44:01and ask
44:02her if she
44:02doesn't mind
44:03where
44:03you might
44:04be able
44:04to find
44:05them
44:05and she
44:06said
44:06she gave
44:07permission
44:07for the police
44:08to break
44:09in if they
44:10had to
44:10and they
44:11did find
44:11some leftovers
44:12at that stage
44:14I was thinking
44:14what the fuck's
44:15going on
44:16like you
44:16full on
44:17bald faced
44:18lied to me
44:19about where
44:19you got
44:20the mushrooms
44:20but on the
44:21other hand
44:22you're happy
44:22for the cops
44:23to go in
44:24and obtain
44:25those leftovers
44:26so I was
44:30aware that
44:30she had
44:31children
44:31and I
44:32wanted to
44:32double check
44:33that the
44:34children
44:35had not
44:36consumed the
44:37meal
44:37she indicated
44:39that they
44:39had consumed
44:40the meal
44:40and I
44:42suggested
44:42well call
44:43the school
44:43she was
44:44concerned for
44:45them
44:45she didn't
44:45want them
44:46to be
44:46frightened
44:47and
44:48you know
44:49I
44:50said
44:51well look
44:52they can be
44:53alive
44:54and scared
44:55or they
44:55could be
44:56dead
44:56when Heather
45:01was being
45:02taken away
45:04in the
45:05ambulance
45:06I knew
45:09that
45:10I wasn't
45:11going to
45:11see her
45:11again
45:12you know
45:13there's a
45:13lot of
45:14aspects of
45:15this case
45:16you know
45:17like anything
45:18that goes
45:19shit in life
45:19you'd love
45:20to have
45:20another chance
45:21to you know
45:22do it again
45:23all four
45:28lunch guests
45:28they're ultimately
45:29transferred to
45:30the Austin
45:30hospital
45:31where their
45:32conditions
45:32continue to
45:33worsen
45:33although it
45:35wasn't able
45:36to be put
45:36before the
45:36jury
45:37because
45:37Simon's
45:38charges
45:38were ultimately
45:39withdrawn
45:40the scene
45:41that sticks
45:42with me
45:43the most
45:43is a
45:44gathering
45:44in a
45:45really
45:45small chapel
45:46at the
45:47Austin
45:47hospital
45:48in
45:48Heidelberg
45:49just as
45:50the health
45:51of their
45:52loved ones
45:52is deteriorating
45:53Simon sends
45:54a message
45:55to his
45:55siblings
45:56and his
45:56cousins
45:57basically
45:57tells them
45:58that he's
45:58got some
45:59serious news
45:59that he
46:00needs to
46:00share
46:00it was
46:01in that
46:01chapel
46:02that Simon
46:02really revealed
46:03for the
46:03first time
46:04that he
46:05believed
46:05that his
46:06wife was
46:06capable
46:06of
46:07murder
46:07Ruth Dubois
46:09is one
46:10of Ian
46:10Wilkinson's
46:11daughters
46:11and introduced
46:12us to
46:13this
46:14conversation
46:15during
46:15pre-trial
46:16He wanted
46:17to tell us
46:18that he
46:19had stopped
46:20eating food
46:21that Erin
46:21had prepared
46:22because he
46:23suspected
46:24that she
46:25might have
46:26been messing
46:27with it
46:28Nobody
46:28was made
46:29aware of
46:30this in
46:30the lead
46:30up to
46:31the lunch
46:31when the
46:32lunch
46:32occurred
46:33really
46:33nobody
46:34knew
46:34of his
46:34level
46:35of
46:35suspicion
46:35He was
46:36really
46:37sorry
46:37that he
46:38hadn't
46:38told our
46:38family
46:39or our
46:40parents
46:41before this
46:41but
46:42he thought
46:44that he
46:44was the
46:45only person
46:46that she
46:46was targeting
46:47and that
46:48they'd
46:48be
46:48safe
46:50You can
46:53imagine
46:53how difficult
46:54this must
46:54have been
46:54for Simon
46:55someone that
46:56not only
46:56had survived
46:57an ordeal
46:57like this
46:58himself
46:58but to
46:59know that
46:59he had
46:59that
46:59information
47:00and that
47:00he
47:01hadn't
47:01disclosed
47:02that
47:02with
47:02everyone
47:02beforehand
47:03There must
47:05have been
47:05like a
47:06pretty big
47:06weight
47:06on his
47:07shoulders
47:07at that
47:08point
47:08in time
47:08to say
47:09I'm sorry
47:11I have to
47:11tell you
47:11this at
47:12this time
47:12I probably
47:13should have
47:13done this
47:14sooner
47:14It's such
47:15a horrible
47:15thing
47:16to hear
47:16and it
47:17must have
47:17come
47:18with its
47:18own
47:18fair share
47:19of guilt
47:19I don't
47:36think Erin
47:37could have
47:38possibly
47:38considered
47:39that she
47:40would be
47:40a suspect
47:41so quickly
47:42I think
47:43Erin
47:43thought that
47:44she would
47:44have
47:45a fair
47:48degree of
47:48time
47:48to cover
47:49her tracks
47:50Incriminated
47:51conduct
47:52is basically
47:52the conduct
47:53that an
47:53accused
47:54person
47:54would
47:54engage
47:55in
47:55or a
47:56suspect
47:56would
47:56engage
47:56in
47:57after
47:57the
47:57commission
47:58of
47:58an
47:58alleged
47:59crime
47:59It's
47:59particularly
48:00important
48:00in this
48:01case
48:01because
48:01there's
48:01a number
48:02of
48:02things
48:02that
48:02Erin
48:03Patterson
48:03does
48:04after
48:04the
48:04lunch
48:05that
48:05might
48:05indicate
48:06that
48:06she's
48:06guilty
48:07Sally
48:11Ann
48:15she's
48:17trying
48:18to figure
48:18out
48:18two
48:18things
48:19where
48:20did
48:20the
48:20mushrooms
48:20come
48:20from
48:21and
48:21could
48:21there
48:22be
48:22concerns
48:22about
48:22public
48:23health
48:23initially
48:25Sally
48:25Ann
48:25says
48:25she
48:25tries
48:26to
48:26get
48:26in
48:26touch
48:26with
48:26Erin
48:27but
48:27she's
48:27not
48:27very
48:27forthcoming
48:28Sally
48:30Ann
48:30is
48:31struggling
48:31to
48:31get
48:31a hold
48:32of
48:32Erin
48:32and
48:32we
48:32know
48:33from
48:33the
48:33text
48:33messages
48:34that
48:34she's
48:34trying
48:34to
48:34get
48:35information
48:35about
48:35the
48:36Asian
48:36grocery
48:36store
48:37I've
48:38been
48:39very
48:39very
48:40helpful
48:41with
48:42the
48:42health
48:42department
48:42through
48:43the
48:43week
48:43because
48:43I
48:44wanted
48:44to
48:44have
48:44that
48:45side
48:45of
48:45things
48:45as much
48:46as
48:46possible
48:46because
48:47I do
48:48want
48:48to
48:48know
48:48what
48:48happened
48:49A council
48:50worker
48:50is going
48:51around
48:51all these
48:51shops
48:52trying
48:52to
48:52find
48:52this
48:52mystery
48:53grocer
48:53but
48:54Erin
48:54isn't
48:54giving
48:55them
48:55much
48:55to
48:55go
48:55on
48:56and
48:56so
48:57the
48:57prosecution
48:57claim
48:58is
48:58that
48:58Erin
48:59Patterson
48:59basically
48:59sent
49:00the
49:00department
49:00on
49:00a
49:01wild
49:01goose
49:01chase
49:01in
49:02an
49:02attempt
49:02to
49:02try
49:02to
49:03deflect
49:03the
49:04focus
49:04on
49:05the
49:05investigation
49:05which
49:06wasted
49:06a lot
49:06of
49:07time
49:07and
49:07resources
49:07obviously
49:08what
49:10we do
49:10have
49:10is
49:11a set
49:11of
49:12behavior
49:12that's
49:13not
49:13just
49:13about
49:14cover-up
49:14it's
49:15showing
49:15a total
49:16lack
49:16of
49:16concern
49:17for
49:18the
49:18other
49:18people
49:18it's
49:19a
49:19shifting
49:20process
49:21going
49:22from
49:22the
49:23mushrooms
49:23came
49:24from
49:24Woolworth
49:24to
49:25oh
49:25I
49:26added
49:26some
49:26Asian
49:27dehydrated
49:27mushrooms
49:28to
49:28I
49:29got
49:30rid
49:30of
49:30the
49:30dehydrated
49:31because
49:31I
49:31panicked
49:31a
49:34young
49:34detective
49:35in
49:35the
49:35office
49:35who
49:36was
49:36just
49:36doing
49:36a
49:36little
49:36bit
49:37of
49:37a
49:37search
49:37of
49:38Erin
49:38Patterson's
49:39bank
49:39records
49:40found a
49:40transaction
49:41for
49:41something
49:41that
49:42was
49:42dumped
49:42at
49:42the
49:42tip
49:42CCTV
49:44shows
49:45Erin
49:46has
49:46dumped
49:47her
49:47food
49:48dehydrator
49:49on
49:49August
49:502
49:50four
49:51days
49:51after
49:52the
49:52fatal
49:52lunch
49:53that's
49:54a
49:54key
49:54example
49:55of
49:56incriminating
49:56conduct
49:57because
49:57why
49:57else
49:58would
49:58you
49:58dump
49:58an
49:58appliance
49:59unless
49:59there
49:59was
49:59proof
50:00in
50:00that
50:00you
50:01might
50:01get
50:02hydrated
50:02deathly
50:02mushrooms
50:03using
50:03it
50:03thanks
50:07to
50:07your
50:07patience
50:07today
50:08Erin
50:08we're
50:09completing
50:10our
50:10search
50:10the
50:12only
50:12outstanding
50:13item
50:13is
50:14that
50:14mobile
50:15phone
50:15that you
50:16got
50:16there
50:17so
50:18I'll
50:18seize
50:18that
50:18now
50:19from
50:19you
50:19the
50:19last
50:20key
50:20act
50:20that
50:20the
50:21prosecution
50:21claims
50:22goes
50:22to
50:22the
50:22heart
50:22of
50:23incriminating
50:23conduct
50:24by
50:24Erin
50:24Patterson
50:25in
50:25the
50:25aftermath
50:26of
50:26the
50:26lunch
50:26is
50:26the
50:27fact
50:27that
50:27she
50:27took
50:28multiple
50:28steps
50:29to
50:29actually
50:29eliminate
50:30her
50:31on the
50:335th
50:33of
50:33August
50:34is
50:34when
50:34they
50:35search
50:35Erin
50:36Patterson's
50:36property
50:37now
50:37she's
50:37not
50:38under
50:38arrest
50:38at this
50:39point
50:39during
50:40the
50:40search
50:40itself
50:41Eppingstall
50:41was supposed
50:42to be
50:42staying
50:43with Erin
50:43Patterson
50:43for most
50:44of that
50:44time
50:44but
50:45somehow
50:46police
50:47discovered
50:47later on
50:48she'd
50:48actually
50:48switched
50:49SIM cards
50:49in her
50:50phone
50:50from her
50:51what they
50:51called
50:51phone A
50:52her main
50:52phone
50:53into a
50:53separate
50:54phone
50:54and
50:55then
50:55what
50:55the
50:55prosecution
50:55claimed
50:56is
50:56that
50:56she
50:57used
50:57some
50:58of
50:58that
50:58time
50:58and
50:59access
50:59that
50:59she
50:59had
50:59to
50:59that
51:00phone
51:00to
51:00actually
51:00wipe
51:01it
51:01out
51:01to
51:01a
51:02factory
51:02reset
51:02and
51:06at
51:06the
51:06end
51:07of
51:07that
51:07search
51:07she
51:07was
51:07able
51:07to
51:07hand
51:08over
51:09what
51:09they
51:09described
51:09as
51:10a
51:10dummy
51:10phone
51:10the
51:11second
51:11most
51:12crucial
51:12reset
51:13that
51:13happened
51:13after
51:14that
51:14comes
51:14the
51:14following
51:15day
51:15as
51:15this
51:16phone
51:16that
51:16she's
51:16handed
51:17to
51:17the
51:17police
51:18is
51:18sitting
51:18in
51:19a
51:19locker
51:19inside
51:20the
51:20police
51:20headquarters
51:21on
51:21Spencer
51:22Street
51:22in
51:22Melbourne
51:23and
51:23it's
51:23not
51:23put
51:24in
51:24a
51:24faraday
51:24bag
51:25which
51:25is
51:25a
51:25bag
51:25that
51:25stops
51:26wifi
51:27effectively
51:27stops
51:28any
51:28signal
51:28coming
51:28through
51:29to
51:29that
51:29phone
51:29and
51:29it's
51:30not
51:30turned
51:30in
51:30airplane
51:31mode
51:31Aaron
51:32Patterson
51:32remotely
51:33logs
51:33on
51:34and
51:34wipes
51:34the
51:35whole
51:35thing
51:35clean
51:35phone
51:36A
51:37Aaron's
51:38first
51:39phone
51:39was
51:40never
51:40found
51:40almost
51:41certainly
51:42it
51:43was
51:43binned
51:43there's
51:44no way
51:48Aaron
51:48knows
51:48what
51:48was
51:49on
51:49it
51:49and
51:51Aaron
51:51ain't
51:51talking
51:52looking
52:00like
52:00the
52:00trial
52:01is
52:01going
52:01to
52:01blow
52:01out
52:02well
52:02past
52:03the
52:03predicted
52:03six
52:04weeks
52:04it
52:05still
52:05looks
52:05like
52:05we
52:06are
52:06a
52:06couple
52:06of
52:07weeks
52:07away
52:07from
52:07finishing
52:08at
52:08the
52:09very
52:09least
52:10I
52:15can't
52:15even
52:15imagine
52:16what
52:16the
52:16family
52:17is
52:17feeling
52:17right
52:17now
52:18they
52:18all
52:19look
52:19tired
52:19the
52:19lawyers
52:20look
52:20tired
52:20the
52:21jury
52:21looks
52:21tired
52:22we
52:22are
52:22all
52:23just
52:23spent
52:24I
52:29just
52:31heard
52:31the
52:31trial
52:32was
52:32blown
52:32out
52:32by
52:33another
52:34two
52:34weeks
52:34oh
52:37god
52:38gonna be
52:39here
52:40till the
52:40end
52:40of
52:40June
52:41because
52:44there's
52:44so much
52:45evidence
52:45in
52:47the
52:48case
52:48the
52:49crown
52:49opens
52:49its
52:50case
52:50and of
52:51course
52:51it
52:51looks
52:51really
52:52good
52:52but
52:52then we
52:53have
52:53the
52:53defense
52:53all
52:54they
52:54need
52:55to
52:55do
52:55is
52:55create
52:56holes
52:56throughout
52:57the trial
52:58there's a number
52:58of times
52:59that the defense
53:00managed to make a dent
53:01into the prosecution's case
53:02by either highlighting inconsistencies or presenting alternative version
53:06of events
53:06if you're running defense in a triple murder trial anytime you can make the prosecution
53:11case look weak or a little bit you know shaky or you know include a little
53:16bit of that reasonable doubt you're gonna take it
53:18there was an inkling that there was something brewing on the defense side of things when
53:40colin mandy tried to introduce evidence that had been tossed out earlier and that included
53:45pictures of mushrooms that had been uncovered in some devices found at arian paterson's house that were wild mushrooms that she could have possibly foraged
53:54in this case we have a situation where the accused has been asked questions in the record of interview as to whether or not she forages mushrooms
54:03she has denied that we have admitted in our own thing that that is a lie that she has foraged
54:10mushrooms and now you're going to prove that's a lie yes what on earth what the fuck is going
54:17on this is crazy you're wanting to reintroduce this evidence at the 11th hour after you fought
54:23so hard to have the evidence thrown out in the pre-trial they didn't want that stuff
54:29concluded you know they they thought that that was damaging to their case
54:33there's an anger within the net that i hadn't seen throughout the entire trial
54:38she actually looked pretty pissed off like she was getting ready to go to war
54:42colin mandy is holding his card so close to his chest he's being accused by the trial judge of trying
54:49to run two different defenses and beale had had enough
54:52is it your case that she put foraged mushrooms into the beef wellington it seems very likely that
54:59that's the case your honor yes the prosecution have been wanting to prove that the entire time
55:05they wanted the jury to think also that she's a forager that she knew what she was doing she knew
55:10how to find death cat mushrooms she deliberately sourced them and she deliberately put them in the
55:14beef wellington it was just that she wanted to say it was an accident and the prosecution wanted to
55:19say it was deliberate so the prosecution's case was like you wanted back in all right let's not
55:23only admit those speeches let's admit all these other evidence that was thrown out initially before
55:29the trial started this includes things like searches that erin had done for poisoned pages she had
55:35visited for poisonous plants erin wasn't just googling things about mushrooms she was only googling
55:41information about poisonous mushrooms the prosecution and the defense disappear into a room and by the
55:50time they re-emerge they've reached an agreement all we heard was that some photos would come in and
55:55some wouldn't her story was she bought these mushrooms from one an Asian grocer and two a local
56:01Woolworths store hearing for the first time in court that her story had changed it was for us how are they
56:08going to back that up what witness are they going to call to talk about these photos to support their
56:14theory that erin patterson was a mushroom forager your honor the defense will call erin patterson
56:38in the
56:403
56:422
56:434
56:445
56:4500
56:45it
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