00:00I'm very excited to talk to you. I always love getting personal and political with you because you are just such an inspo all the time.
00:08So one of my first questions, you do such a great job at handling the haters on Instagram who try to censor your views and you sharing your views.
00:17I mean, how did you kind of, and what advice do you have for growing that thick skin and kind of approaching people with such an open heart and acceptance but also sharing your views?
00:29I think there's a very fine line between trying to be welcoming and I always try to think about where a person has to be in their life to speak to other people in that sort of hate-filled way.
00:39And I try to have grace for that, but I'm also not here to be a doormat or a punching bag.
00:44And I think that you really have to examine when you are willing to stick your neck out there why you're doing that, where does your truth come from?
00:52Because people on the other side, people who don't believe in equality, who don't believe in gender parity, who don't believe in the right to marry the person you love,
00:58they believe that they're right.
01:00But those are beliefs that are firmly rooted in hate and othering and fear.
01:05So you first need to make sure you're coming from a place of love and defense for others.
01:10And if you are doing that and you want to speak your truth, go out guns blazing.
01:16And you have to understand, though, that any time you're saying something that isn't completely vanilla, you're going to have pushback.
01:24But at the end of the day, I know because I've had conversations with people who say,
01:28I started doing research on a topic I thought I knew everything about because of an article you posted or an opinion that you posted.
01:34And I discovered this, that, and the other, and I changed my mind.
01:38And then I talked to my family.
01:40And then, so if that can happen multiple times, let alone even once, it's worth it.
01:45But I also think we all have to be disciplined enough to not read all those comments, to not let that energy in.
01:53Because it has no business being in our sort of inner sanctum.
01:58Yes. Uh-oh.
02:01Absolutely.
02:01Well, and kind of a segue into this, we're getting into 2020 presidential elections.
02:08People are coming out and starting to put in their bids for candidacy.
02:12And first is Elizabeth Warren.
02:14And people are already starting to talk about the likability factor.
02:18Why do you, it drives me crazy, too.
02:20Have we ever discussed a man's likability?
02:22Why do you think that people aren't looking at the resume of a woman instead of her likability?
02:27Because people are very intimidated.
02:28You know, we treat women like they're meant to simply be pretty, like they're meant to be looked at, like they're meant to be mothers, like they're meant to be caretakers.
02:38And you can be all of those things.
02:39But you're equally empowered to be educated, smart, thoughtful, to be an investor, not just a charitable donor.
02:47If you can be both, great.
02:49But we have a real disparity.
02:50You know, when men accrue wealth in this country, we ask them to invest.
02:54And when women accrue wealth in this country, we ask them to donate.
02:56That right there talks to you about what the difference in the structure is in society of how we view men and how we view women.
03:03And people can roll their eyes and say that it isn't true, but it is.
03:06And unlikable has become synonymous for smart, outspoken, opinionated, educated, active.
03:12And I really think it's a word that I want to banish.
03:16Anyone who's assessing Elizabeth Warren's likability right now needs to take several seats.
03:21We need to see how this is all shaking out.
03:23I'm likewise inspired by so much of what Marianne Williamson is bringing to her exploratory run and the things that she's talking about, the sort of greatness of our history and the flaws in every ounce of it.
03:36How, yes, we had the suffrage movement, but the suffrage movement detracted from women of color getting the right to vote.
03:42And so for all of our successes, there have always been imperfections.
03:46And how do we as a country own that it's that sort of vacillating forward motion that has made us and that we have the opportunity to be better every time.
03:56We know more now.
03:57We have to do better now.
03:59I think that all of this is incredibly important.
04:01And I want to hear what they all have to say because they're smart and experienced.
04:05And I'm just not looking for anyone to detract from any of them.
04:10We should be focusing on rooting out who the best candidate is, man, woman, whatever, and see where we go.
04:17Exactly.
04:18It shouldn't matter about the resume, not the gender.
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