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Guillermo del Toro Backstage Q&A | Golden Globes 2018
Hollywood Journal
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7 weeks ago
del Toro won his first Globe for 'The Shape of Water.'
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We talked before about all your intentions with the movie and everything,
00:03
but how important is it for you that this movie is just showing
00:07
that you're in connection with things that are happening right now?
00:10
I mean, that's pretty...
00:12
It could be very unusual for a movie that is so involved in fantasy to deal...
00:17
You mentioned that you didn't know, of course,
00:19
Trump was going to be the president when you were writing it.
00:23
And then you didn't know that these things with Harvey Weinstein
00:26
and all the other guys will happen.
00:27
But then there's women here, there's, like, workers that are oppressed,
00:33
so there's a lot of issues that are all, like, very current.
00:37
They're there, yeah.
00:37
So do you feel that can be a coincidence?
00:40
It's probably something that...
00:41
So you feel that you're part of the conversation right now?
00:43
You're in contact with what is going on?
00:45
How important is that for you?
00:47
Well, I think that the important thing about fables and fairy tales
00:50
is that they were created to address things that you cannot address as easily
00:55
and embody as beautifully as you do with parable, you know, which is what we are.
01:01
And I think the important thing tonight in many ways is that there was Jordan Peele
01:07
and it was Shape of Water, Get Out in Shape of Water,
01:11
standing in a legitimate, beautiful way next to drama, comedy, musical, action, war, everything.
01:20
You know, we have a place in the cinematic conversation that has led to the creation
01:27
of beautiful, powerful images, but also thematic weight.
01:32
And I think that this was very prescient for me,
01:35
as it is for anybody that lives as the other in a society.
01:40
It was very pressing for me to talk about it, and I talked about it through this fable.
01:46
Thank you. Gracias.
01:47
Hello. Over here to your left.
01:51
Congratulations on the win.
01:53
Looking forward, do you feel like this will have any impact
01:56
on the kind of stories you want to tell or the ways you want to tell them?
02:00
Well, I've been very stubborn for many, many years,
02:04
so I only do the stories I want to tell.
02:06
I only do them the way I want to tell them.
02:10
Sometimes you find a bigger audience,
02:13
sometimes you find a more devout audience,
02:15
sometimes you find a deep connection with fewer people,
02:19
and blah, blah, blah.
02:20
But, you know, I've been doing this for 25 years,
02:23
and with the exception of 1997 Mimic,
02:26
which was a very difficult production that was compromised.
02:30
Other than that, the movies I've made are movies that I feel I need to make.
02:34
And that is going to continue, even more strong now.
02:39
What is beautiful is to do it now from an adult point of view, in a way,
02:44
from a different point of view in my life or in career and storytelling.
02:48
So this is a great blessing, and it's a pat on the back to continue.
02:52
Mr. Del Toro, to your right, from The Greek Reporter, congratulations.
02:57
And I would like to ask you, a few years ago,
03:00
our president, being the president of the United States,
03:03
would be considered fantasy.
03:05
So I want to ask you a question,
03:06
if you would be interested to make a movie with this character as your protagonist,
03:11
would you like to make a movie about Trump at any point of your life?
03:14
I think that you have to do movies about things that are close to you,
03:20
that you understand, that you want to use as part of your storytelling kit
03:26
or your own life.
03:28
I mean, all my movies are strangely autobiographical,
03:32
and they end up lining up with social concerns or not.
03:38
I think that you cannot impose something like that as a model.
03:43
It has to come from you.
03:45
I think the movie is very pertinent to now, The Shape of Water.
03:50
And it's not because I tried to make it so.
03:52
It just happened to me.
03:56
You know, I am interested in different type of monsters.
04:00
Congratulations.
04:02
This is a beautiful love story that you've won for,
04:05
but you also tweeted very movingly the other day
04:08
about the importance of telling stories
04:10
so that young women will see that they don't always have to be part of a love.
04:13
How do you balance those two things in your work?
04:18
I think you approach each character with a different concern.
04:22
When I write somebody like Mercedes in Pan's Labyrinth,
04:26
I'm writing a very strong movement that is part of the resistance,
04:30
the guerrilla, in post-war Spain.
04:33
And then you do it, and you don't superimpose a pattern of a love story on top of that.
04:40
You are sincere with your character.
04:43
You provide the best possible tools for the character to articulate.
04:48
When you do somebody like Michael Mori on Pacific Rim,
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when you do somebody like Jessica Chastain,
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when you do, you know, I love writing these characters,
04:57
and each of them tells you what they need.
04:59
And if they need a love story,
05:01
by God, you write them a great love story.
05:04
But even then, even when you write a love story,
05:07
you can do it consciously,
05:09
trying to not tell the wrong story.
05:10
Because in most exceptions of Beauty and the Beast,
05:15
it's almost like a Stockholm Syndrome moment
05:17
in which Beauty is kidnapped by this figure
05:20
and develops a relationship with.
05:24
And then the Beast has to transform
05:26
into the most boring prince to have the relationship.
05:31
And Shape of Water upends both things.
05:35
You know, the female character is the engine of change
05:38
on every single thing that happens in the film.
05:41
And the Beast remains the Beast.
05:43
You know, because I don't think love is about transformation
05:48
and changing the person, but understanding the person.
05:52
You know?
05:53
So even then, you don't have to do the usual love story.
05:57
Julia Pierpont from Xinhua News of China.
06:00
Yes.
06:01
Could you really understand
06:04
and have an extraordinary ability
06:06
to look into the shadow side,
06:09
into the darker side of human nature
06:11
and fantasy and terror,
06:13
but you also are a really joyful and loving person.
06:17
So how do you find that balance?
06:19
I'm Mexican.
06:21
And, you know,
06:24
no one loves life more than we do in a way
06:32
because we are so conscious about death.
06:34
So the preciousness of life
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standing side to side
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to the one place we're all going through.
06:40
Let's say everybody in this planet
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boarded a train that was
06:45
final destination, death.
06:48
So the train, we're going to live.
06:51
We're going to have beauty and love
06:53
and freedom.
06:55
And I think that when you
06:57
eliminate one of the two sides from the equation,
07:00
it's a pamphlet.
07:03
When you take in account
07:04
the dark to tell the light,
07:06
it's reality.
07:10
Oh, she had one.
07:12
Okay.
07:14
I have a photographical question.
07:18
Yes.
07:18
Okay.
07:19
Now, there are so many movies,
07:21
so many TV shows
07:22
with imaginative characters,
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aliens, monsters.
07:28
Yes.
07:30
How do you sit and think,
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how do I do this differently?
07:34
Because after a while, for me,
07:36
so many aliens look the same
07:39
in every movie.
07:40
You know what I mean?
07:41
How do you come up
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with a practical answer
07:45
to creating something unique
07:47
when so many people are doing it?
07:50
What I think you need to do
07:51
is you do not drink from the source
07:54
that has been done.
07:57
You have to...
08:01
A visual vocabulary
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is the same as a spoken vocabulary.
08:05
Mark Twain said,
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the difference between the right word
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and the almost right word
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is the difference between lighting
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and the lighting bug.
08:12
And it's the same with visual design.
08:14
If your culture encompasses
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fine paintings,
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sculpture, architecture,
08:19
pop culture, yes,
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illustration, comics,
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you have a breadth of language
08:25
in which you can articulate a design
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and not have it be
08:29
something somebody already did.
08:30
that's not what you want to do.
08:32
It's not what you want to do.
08:34
It's a little bit more
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in which you can understand
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you have to do
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the right word to play
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and understand
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the right word,
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and the right word,
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you have to do so much
08:42
that you are done.
08:43
It's not what you want to do.
08:44
It's the same way
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you want to do so,
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it's not true.
08:49
So people can see
08:50
on the next one.
08:51
So people can see
08:52
this one of the same things
08:53
you can see
08:54
in that one.
08:54
This one is the same thing
08:55
that they can see
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