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del Toro won his first Globe for 'The Shape of Water.'
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00:00We talked before about all your intentions with the movie and everything,
00:03but how important is it for you that this movie is just showing
00:07that you're in connection with things that are happening right now?
00:10I mean, that's pretty...
00:12It could be very unusual for a movie that is so involved in fantasy to deal...
00:17You mentioned that you didn't know, of course,
00:19Trump was going to be the president when you were writing it.
00:23And then you didn't know that these things with Harvey Weinstein
00:26and all the other guys will happen.
00:27But then there's women here, there's, like, workers that are oppressed,
00:33so there's a lot of issues that are all, like, very current.
00:37They're there, yeah.
00:37So do you feel that can be a coincidence?
00:40It's probably something that...
00:41So you feel that you're part of the conversation right now?
00:43You're in contact with what is going on?
00:45How important is that for you?
00:47Well, I think that the important thing about fables and fairy tales
00:50is that they were created to address things that you cannot address as easily
00:55and embody as beautifully as you do with parable, you know, which is what we are.
01:01And I think the important thing tonight in many ways is that there was Jordan Peele
01:07and it was Shape of Water, Get Out in Shape of Water,
01:11standing in a legitimate, beautiful way next to drama, comedy, musical, action, war, everything.
01:20You know, we have a place in the cinematic conversation that has led to the creation
01:27of beautiful, powerful images, but also thematic weight.
01:32And I think that this was very prescient for me,
01:35as it is for anybody that lives as the other in a society.
01:40It was very pressing for me to talk about it, and I talked about it through this fable.
01:46Thank you. Gracias.
01:47Hello. Over here to your left.
01:51Congratulations on the win.
01:53Looking forward, do you feel like this will have any impact
01:56on the kind of stories you want to tell or the ways you want to tell them?
02:00Well, I've been very stubborn for many, many years,
02:04so I only do the stories I want to tell.
02:06I only do them the way I want to tell them.
02:10Sometimes you find a bigger audience,
02:13sometimes you find a more devout audience,
02:15sometimes you find a deep connection with fewer people,
02:19and blah, blah, blah.
02:20But, you know, I've been doing this for 25 years,
02:23and with the exception of 1997 Mimic,
02:26which was a very difficult production that was compromised.
02:30Other than that, the movies I've made are movies that I feel I need to make.
02:34And that is going to continue, even more strong now.
02:39What is beautiful is to do it now from an adult point of view, in a way,
02:44from a different point of view in my life or in career and storytelling.
02:48So this is a great blessing, and it's a pat on the back to continue.
02:52Mr. Del Toro, to your right, from The Greek Reporter, congratulations.
02:57And I would like to ask you, a few years ago,
03:00our president, being the president of the United States,
03:03would be considered fantasy.
03:05So I want to ask you a question,
03:06if you would be interested to make a movie with this character as your protagonist,
03:11would you like to make a movie about Trump at any point of your life?
03:14I think that you have to do movies about things that are close to you,
03:20that you understand, that you want to use as part of your storytelling kit
03:26or your own life.
03:28I mean, all my movies are strangely autobiographical,
03:32and they end up lining up with social concerns or not.
03:38I think that you cannot impose something like that as a model.
03:43It has to come from you.
03:45I think the movie is very pertinent to now, The Shape of Water.
03:50And it's not because I tried to make it so.
03:52It just happened to me.
03:56You know, I am interested in different type of monsters.
04:00Congratulations.
04:02This is a beautiful love story that you've won for,
04:05but you also tweeted very movingly the other day
04:08about the importance of telling stories
04:10so that young women will see that they don't always have to be part of a love.
04:13How do you balance those two things in your work?
04:18I think you approach each character with a different concern.
04:22When I write somebody like Mercedes in Pan's Labyrinth,
04:26I'm writing a very strong movement that is part of the resistance,
04:30the guerrilla, in post-war Spain.
04:33And then you do it, and you don't superimpose a pattern of a love story on top of that.
04:40You are sincere with your character.
04:43You provide the best possible tools for the character to articulate.
04:48When you do somebody like Michael Mori on Pacific Rim,
04:51when you do somebody like Jessica Chastain,
04:54when you do, you know, I love writing these characters,
04:57and each of them tells you what they need.
04:59And if they need a love story,
05:01by God, you write them a great love story.
05:04But even then, even when you write a love story,
05:07you can do it consciously,
05:09trying to not tell the wrong story.
05:10Because in most exceptions of Beauty and the Beast,
05:15it's almost like a Stockholm Syndrome moment
05:17in which Beauty is kidnapped by this figure
05:20and develops a relationship with.
05:24And then the Beast has to transform
05:26into the most boring prince to have the relationship.
05:31And Shape of Water upends both things.
05:35You know, the female character is the engine of change
05:38on every single thing that happens in the film.
05:41And the Beast remains the Beast.
05:43You know, because I don't think love is about transformation
05:48and changing the person, but understanding the person.
05:52You know?
05:53So even then, you don't have to do the usual love story.
05:57Julia Pierpont from Xinhua News of China.
06:00Yes.
06:01Could you really understand
06:04and have an extraordinary ability
06:06to look into the shadow side,
06:09into the darker side of human nature
06:11and fantasy and terror,
06:13but you also are a really joyful and loving person.
06:17So how do you find that balance?
06:19I'm Mexican.
06:21And, you know,
06:24no one loves life more than we do in a way
06:32because we are so conscious about death.
06:34So the preciousness of life
06:36standing side to side
06:38to the one place we're all going through.
06:40Let's say everybody in this planet
06:44boarded a train that was
06:45final destination, death.
06:48So the train, we're going to live.
06:51We're going to have beauty and love
06:53and freedom.
06:55And I think that when you
06:57eliminate one of the two sides from the equation,
07:00it's a pamphlet.
07:03When you take in account
07:04the dark to tell the light,
07:06it's reality.
07:10Oh, she had one.
07:12Okay.
07:14I have a photographical question.
07:18Yes.
07:18Okay.
07:19Now, there are so many movies,
07:21so many TV shows
07:22with imaginative characters,
07:26aliens, monsters.
07:28Yes.
07:30How do you sit and think,
07:32how do I do this differently?
07:34Because after a while, for me,
07:36so many aliens look the same
07:39in every movie.
07:40You know what I mean?
07:41How do you come up
07:42with a practical answer
07:45to creating something unique
07:47when so many people are doing it?
07:50What I think you need to do
07:51is you do not drink from the source
07:54that has been done.
07:57You have to...
08:01A visual vocabulary
08:02is the same as a spoken vocabulary.
08:05Mark Twain said,
08:06the difference between the right word
08:08and the almost right word
08:09is the difference between lighting
08:10and the lighting bug.
08:12And it's the same with visual design.
08:14If your culture encompasses
08:16fine paintings,
08:17sculpture, architecture,
08:19pop culture, yes,
08:21illustration, comics,
08:23you have a breadth of language
08:25in which you can articulate a design
08:27and not have it be
08:29something somebody already did.
08:30that's not what you want to do.
08:32It's not what you want to do.
08:34It's a little bit more
08:34in which you can understand
08:35you have to do
08:36the right word to play
08:36and understand
08:36the right word,
08:37and the right word,
08:38you have to do so much
08:42that you are done.
08:43It's not what you want to do.
08:44It's the same way
08:47you want to do so,
08:48it's not true.
08:49So people can see
08:50on the next one.
08:51So people can see
08:52this one of the same things
08:53you can see
08:54in that one.
08:54This one is the same thing
08:55that they can see
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