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00:00Hello and welcome to the Raw Preview. I'm Adam Wilborn from WhatCulture, joined by another one, Michael Sidgwick from WhatCulture, here to look ahead to tonight's episode of Raw.
00:10But before we get into it, if you're a fan of this sort of thing, make sure you subscribe to WhatCulture Wrestling on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, and YouTube.
00:17Where we do daily wrestling podcasts where we're not going to review Raw, but also Smackdown, the show formerly known as NXT 2.0, AW Dynamite, AW Collision, pay-per-views, premium live events.
00:26We have interviews, roundtable discussions, and a round of the week complete. We're going to get a quiz, of course, on WrestleCulture.
00:32As I said, they're joined by Michael Sidgwick and just Michael Sidgwick.
00:35So look ahead to Raw tonight and the Go Home Show, ahead of Survivor Series, Raw Games.
00:42All right. Is Hamflat on? We shouldn't be too nasty to him because is he like looking after his kids or something today?
00:49Not as far as I'm aware.
00:50Oh, they'll have an extended anniversary celebrations because he's just had a wedding anniversary.
00:56No, I think that was the end of last week, mate, yeah.
00:59So is he ill?
01:01No, absolutely fine.
01:02Why is he not here then?
01:03I think, to be fair, there's travel issues getting back from London.
01:07No, it was a pre-arranged day off, though. Hence why I'm doing this bit.
01:12No, I think that he knew about it's going to be difficult to get back following going to London for the weekend.
01:17Not really. What you do is you either leave after, you get the train after the match or you wake up bright and early,
01:23you've only got a job to do on the Monday and you can get like, the trains not run on Sundays.
01:33It's also the day after full gear. I don't know if that affects it or...
01:37Why would it?
01:38I don't know.
01:39Why would it, if anything, that should, you know, if anything, if there's a big wrestling show,
01:47that should, you know, be the impetus to try harder to come in, not the opposite, like you're suggesting.
01:55He'll be back tomorrow.
01:58It's annoying.
01:59You know, he goes for a nice little weekend in London again.
02:03I've got a day off this week.
02:04Like, off.
02:06It's just, you know, I'd have to do, you know, I've got there an appointment for something with my house.
02:10It's not fun, watching some guy fit the dishwasher, fix the dishwasher.
02:14And you know what annoys me?
02:15It's like, I couldn't do what they do at all.
02:17I, you know, I admire people who are handy.
02:20It's when they say something like, mate, like,
02:22do you know what brand of the pressure valve is?
02:28Obviously not.
02:28Look at this.
02:29I'm a specky twat.
02:31I don't know.
02:33What about the, uh, up fixer?
02:35Don't make me feel small.
02:37What day are you off this week?
02:38Thursday, I think.
02:39Okay.
02:40So be good.
02:41For f*** sake.
02:42Well, that's really interesting because I'm off Thursday as well.
02:48Looks like Hamlet's doing a solo Dynamite review then.
02:52Good God.
02:53What's that going to look like?
02:55Well, he's got time to make up the money, so.
02:57Anyway, let's talk about business at hand.
03:00Yes.
03:01Uh, go home raw, Ed, of Survivor Series.
03:05Are you off on Thursday?
03:06I'm, uh, doing some work networking thing for, for the, the big bosses of future.
03:13Okay, at least you've got an excuse.
03:14Yeah, I'm working.
03:15You're at work.
03:16I'm working, yeah.
03:18She's not in the office.
03:20I'm still grinding, grafting.
03:23I don't know.
03:24What are you saying?
03:24On f***ing Fortnite.
03:28Oh, my kid's obsessed with Fortnite, by the way.
03:30Have they got like a Simpsons family guy thing going on now?
03:33I don't know if it's family guy, but there's like a Simpsons level or whatever it is.
03:36I know I don't know anything.
03:38But like, um, he is obsessed with this thing.
03:43Like, Fortnite's got him.
03:44Um, to the point where, you know, you try and say, all right, James, you know, it's tea time.
03:49Uh, in a minute.
03:50It's like, talk to me like that one more time.
03:52You won't play f***ing Fortnite for the rest of the week.
03:54Do you understand?
03:55What was the first game that did that to you?
03:58Ooh, where I'm to the point where I'm like, I've got a little anecdote here.
04:04It's pathetic.
04:04Honestly, I am pathetic.
04:06Um, I think Sonic was my favorite game.
04:11But the first one that had this like psychological chokehold over me where it's like, this is,
04:18I have like, the marketing's worked.
04:19All the reviews are flooded in.
04:21I was like, I need to play this game.
04:22I'm going to be on this game.
04:24I'm going to perfect this game.
04:25I've got two.
04:27Theme Park.
04:29Oh, yeah.
04:30I used to.
04:31They're like theme hospital theme.
04:33Yeah.
04:34Park was the first one, I think.
04:36Anyway, I was obsessed with, fundamentally obsessed with the idea of theme parks.
04:39I've been to like Lightwater Valley, if you know, you know.
04:42And I was just, I love theme parks.
04:43So before I even got theme park, I would just get an A4 pad out and start drawing roller coasters.
04:49Oh.
04:51You know, I'd like to do the, like the prep and advance.
04:53And I got it for my birthday and I was on it, on it, on it.
04:55But I think the first one, but it was like, you know, it wasn't this graphically impressive, incredible thing.
05:00But I was promised, you know, when like hoverboards and Back to the Future 2, you're like, oh my God, the future's going to come.
05:06And I can't wait now.
05:07And I'm going to come as well.
05:09And Gran Turismo was marketed as this like photorealistic, you've seen nothing in terms of graphical power, technology, gameplay, until you've played this game.
05:22And I'm like, I need it.
05:25Get me it now.
05:26I'm a Gran Turismo.
05:26But the problem is it came out, like, I think it was a summer release.
05:34I vaguely remember that I got it not on a birthday and not a Christmas.
05:38And it was probably like really expensive and all the rest of it.
05:41And I was like, can I get Gran Turismo?
05:42Can I get Gran Turismo?
05:45My parents were like, no, no, no, it's too expensive.
05:47I was like, can I get Gran Turismo?
05:48Can I please get Gran Turismo?
05:50Can I please, please, please, please get Gran Turismo?
05:54No.
05:54I need Gran Turismo, obviously.
05:57It's like, give us Gran Turismo.
05:59Give me Gran Turismo.
06:00Can I have Gran Turismo?
06:01Shut the f*** up!
06:03Then yes, you can have Gran Turismo.
06:05So that's basically how I got Gran Turismo.
06:06But the crack was, and I get this now, because I'm on the other side of the family tree of, like, my parents went, you can get the f***, you can get the game, just don't tell next door.
06:25I was like friends with people on the street and all the rest of it.
06:28It's like, they think you're spoiled enough.
06:30They think less of us as parents.
06:31As it is, if they come round, you hide Gran Turismo.
06:37You're not allowed to show them that you've got Gran Turismo, right?
06:42You're not allowed.
06:43You're not allowed because, like, they're going to think we're dickheads.
06:46They're going to think we're spoiling you rotten.
06:47That would just get, have anything you want.
06:49We're terrible parents and all the rest of it.
06:52They'll get back from game or whatever it is.
06:56Bag.
06:57Gran Turismo, isn't it?
06:59No, no.
06:59It's just, like, they're playing out, and I just get out of the car.
07:03Oh, look what I got.
07:06Not only do I want it, I want everyone to know I've got it.
07:09Yeah.
07:09I get banned from playing it.
07:11Oh, how long?
07:12And I've probably worn down their resistance in record time.
07:16Yeah, yeah.
07:16Because it's worse, like, not only do I have it now, but I'm not allowed to play it.
07:22That's something really different from, like, four hours ago.
07:24It's there.
07:26I was such a little prick.
07:27The one thing I remember.
07:28Such a little prick.
07:28One thing I remember about Gran Turismo.
07:30It might have been Gran Turismo 3.
07:31I can't remember anything about it now.
07:33Well, I can't remember if it was the first one or maybe, like, the third one or whatever.
07:37I distinctly remember playing.
07:38And the first bit, you have, like, that pot of money.
07:40It's like, right, buy your first car.
07:42And it was the Mazda MX-5, which was, like, good.
07:44And then you could, like, get a better engine, better wheels and stuff.
07:47It's either that or a PT Cruiser.
07:49It's like, oh, yeah, nice family SUV.
07:51That'll absolutely cane it around the laps.
07:53Brilliant.
07:54What are we doing?
07:54I don't know how we got onto this, but I, to the point where, like, I have to force him
08:01to watch the football with us.
08:02You know, I'm bonding time, son.
08:04Watching the football.
08:05Good weekend for it.
08:07Glorious weekend.
08:08But, yes, it's the go-home show ahead of Survivor Series.
08:13Roman Reigns opening the show.
08:14There's the Men's War Games Advantage match on Raw tonight as well.
08:19I don't know anything.
08:19You didn't send us a note.
08:20Sorry, yes.
08:21I did not care to check.
08:22Brock Lesnar, CM Punk set to appear.
08:27There's a bit of me in my head that there's going to be some more twists ahead of War Games.
08:33Nice.
08:34I don't know.
08:34I just don't see Jimmy Uso making it to Saturday, basically.
08:37You are too useless.
08:39You are not involved.
08:41Yeah, Roman Reigns cut in a promo to open the show, one would assume.
08:47That'll save you a few minutes, the entrance and that.
08:57I can't lie and say I'm interested in the story or the promotion, quite frankly.
09:05i'm halfway interested on like what's roman reigns going to say to convince me that he cares about
09:17this you know they have just kind of thrown the stars at it haven't they've thrown the stars at
09:22it um i'm interested in what how they justify it not like how they tell the story how they justify
09:30the story that they've told in that they haven't really told one as you say they've just chucked
09:35some stars at it so there's going to be a little bit of uh out of a nap they have to work around
09:42transparently what the idea is roman reigns is very clever like obviously he does tv appearances
09:49to build these matches that he has like the guy is clever in that he's set for life anyway but he
09:58he would want less money yeah not me but he's really good at sort of maintaining that profile
10:06of roman reigns one of the biggest like rush more candidate for wwe you know like the the optics of
10:14the the shows that he does do because i understand why he would come back for the saudi shows even
10:19though nowadays don't they say they don't even get an additional i think that's included as part of
10:23their contract yeah he for optics he's very clever at coming back when there's a stadium
10:28yeah you know he's really clever at that so he always looks like the biggest deal so i understand
10:34the real reason why he's involved in all this but but you you're more locked in well this is the thing
10:41i was going to say and i think this is kind of an opinion held by quite a lot of people including
10:46i can guarantee that which is when the bell actually rings on saturday i'll remember oh i don't care i don't
10:52care about war games like a i wasn't around for like the you know the classic war games and classic
10:58war game and 1992 let's be honest like the eight like the late 80s crockett ones are really cool as
11:07like
11:07heel face punch up a few cage splats extra heel comes in so it's always the heel advantage at the time it
11:21would have been mind-blowing as a spectacle um but realistically it's like an artifact now it's
11:29like a nice it's more of an aesthetic really than like a match in a story and war games 92 is
11:35different it's awesome but like the illustrious history of war game that's what it is well this
11:40is the thing so like don't get me wrong once everyone's in there it's fun it's wild they have
11:46the the usual sort of there's the there's the what's the what's the phrase for the bit where
11:50they all stand next to each other west side story yeah they have this really cool thing where you know
11:54how a table's meant to like eat off or have meetings around yes in the chaotic world of war games and
11:59wrestling they like they break those tables sometimes simultaneously because there's two rings of
12:04course but yeah i will say they've they've yet again kind of sold me on like it's war games
12:09particularly when me and hamfoot were being like is it gonna be the mfts versus the wyatt six in war
12:15games that's not happening um but yeah now the fact of like oh roman's back for this there's the
12:22issues with roman and the usos etc more interesting for me is cody and punk is that anything yeah they
12:30could be like trying to reverse engineer like they've got this match big name stars which it's
12:36ultimately like a front to have maybe cody and punk have a bit of friendly fire and then the heels win
12:45or whatever like just something that's in place to spark potential directions for wrestlemania but like
12:51they you know they can't say that on the tv so it becomes a case of what do they say on the tv
12:56so roman reigns obviously has been feuding with the vision sporadically when he can be asked throughout
13:02the year to the point that is this is fourth pla meeting one way or the other with bronson reed
13:08probably yes i'm not being funny australia france there's got to be another one in there
13:14summer slam summer slam yeah yeah like i know we differ on a lot of things wrestling wise
13:21like considering how often he's worked with roman reigns bronson reed kind of just is still a guy who
13:28stands next to paul heyman you know yeah so it's going to be difficult for me if roman reigns is
13:33going to say i need to get rid of this bronson reed problem once and for all he's not a problem
13:38well he is a problem he's not very good you're not saying that you're like if we're fantasy booking
13:42like you say punk and cody for the the wwe championship and let's say maybe brom breaker
13:46holds the world heavyweight title you're not booking oh that's going to finally come to a head
13:50the roman bronson thing at wrestlemania yeah you're booking roman in i don't know what you're doing
13:54with him right now to be honest the rock so i think is roman gonna say because the last time
14:00we saw roman division wrote him out correct yeah other than obviously the second time yeah
14:06oh no is it when he when he said i said the usos yeah i'm not see i'm not talking to you until
14:13christmas now so did they lose that match yes right because of jay's exuberance let's say yes
14:21either way it's like oh it's just still bloodline adjacent hayman roman stuff it it doesn't really
14:31feel like there's many much meat on that bone maybe they'll build it around of all the vision
14:36are still you know whatever maybe they'll build this more around roman and jay yeah then like who
14:42the opposition is well i'll tell the story of how the baby faces need to get on one page doesn't look
14:47like they are tuning into war games or whatever well this is the thing is i was already coming
14:52here and say the because the the men's war games advantage as far as we know is the vision versus
14:59a member of team roman so we'll my water we can speculate on uh i assume if from that heel team
15:07you're obviously just going to have the two bronnies in there and i thought well the obvious thing would
15:11be the vision because the heels need to win uh versus the usos and then you write jim uso out
15:18suddenly team roman team cody whatever you want to call them is scrambling for uh a new member and
15:26then on smackdown they have to try and recruit la night and then i remembered smackdown's take so
15:31that's not happening oh well i've not seen any spoilers but i assume that would have been
15:35quite the story doing the rounds um but yeah you're very much of the opinion with whether it
15:42be blood and guts or war games just always have the heels have the advantage always always you're
15:47just booking yourself into a corner otherwise yeah um i will say and i know i won't say this
15:53aw kind of got a half right with the men's war games this year and that really it was fun to watch
16:00get beat up um two on one and then the mark briscoe temporary write-off kind of it all sort
16:08of like made a bit more sense that way is there anyone on the heel team who you'd like to see just
16:12get his ass kicked loud and pull you know what you know what that could work if the baby faces get the
16:18advantage right and like first of all i mean lesnar's coming in last so don't think it matters but if he
16:27came in third for whatever reason tv3 but one of them's brock it's like that incredible um viral clip
16:34soccer tangent uh a rare bit of good american football american soccer commentary where um
16:51um i think it must be for it's one of messi's team but like they've got a breakaway but um
16:59the team messi's attacking they've got the full back line out but the commentator goes well it's
17:07two versus four but one of them's messy it's like oh yeah that's good that's great yeah and so it's
17:13like well it's two versus three but one of them's brock i know i don't know i don't really care
17:19um so what is the match for the advantage the vision versus two members of the baby faces which
17:27you're not going to put like as much raines and tm punk yeah yeah it's the uso um because then
17:34jimmy or jay can eat the pin and be like bloody hell do this really clever it's going to be chaos
17:38with because brock and punk are set to appear roman's already there drew's obviously been involved
17:42on smackdown that we'll talk about yeah later on they could do this really clever finish that i've
17:46just come up with right which um you know it's really clever finish so the tag team
17:51match is going on it's absolutely thrilling you know it's brilliant um when logan paul
18:00distracts the referee and he climbs onto the apron it's like there's some crap crap going on in there
18:07you need to need a buddy guy you know you're losing your head in there ref look what's going on you're
18:11not paying attention to that and the referee's like what do you get out the bloody rings you idiot
18:14right and in the meantime this is clever so logan paul's doing that drew mcintyre
18:20with the referee occupied and hit the claymore oh one of the usos yeah and then one of the
18:30brawnies can pin i like it you know when people god wrestling always ends up being rubbish and then it
18:36has to be really rubbish to get good again but then it all even like good ideas will become rubbish
18:41even off season remember uh like years ago when vince was just like well we're not doing them no
18:49mo and it's like well we're not really going to see them very much in brackets general because you
18:55know there's only one big game in town when everyone was like we need stables again we need stables
18:58like miss the days of the attitude era and all those great stables and all the rest of it
19:02and now obviously vince is gone and aw brought them back riffing on the new japan thing
19:08i'm bored brother of stables there's the amount of times i see a one-on-one match right heel stable
19:16mate hops onto the apron hey ref look at all that then and the second heel stable mate actually does
19:22the interference then the heel went stables has to crutch now to do crap finishes and i'm almost
19:29certain you're going to see one in this men's advantage game tonight i would assume from from
19:35what i've read that the women's advantage will obviously be on smackdown we saw on smackdown new
19:40members being added a wig out about anything as a kid when you were needing it and but you were too
19:45spoiled you're an only child come on i don't want to be a monster here i mean i definitely swore for the
19:54first time in front of my parents because of a computer game because of like lma manager or fifa
20:00or whatever and my argument was because i got the immediate adam my argument wasn't oh sorry you
20:07know it was but mommy is being one of them like she's gonna be like fair play yeah it shouldn't be
20:14stepping up to the plate really yeah made all that money for him so i don't really remember like
20:19proper kicking off well behaved tried to be i definitely guarantee if you ask them i think i
20:26was like i was so spoiled and so needing of things right that i was ordinarily just very quite well
20:34behaved almost through fear of getting into trouble more than like this incredible moral compass that i
20:40have but if i needed something by which i mean really wanted something i like this desire to have
20:47the thing that i didn't have would just drive me into like really bad tantrum behavior i do remember
20:53it being drilled into me at a very early age do not be ungrateful especially when it comes to like
20:59relatives even if they get you a present that you didn't really want and i do remember one christmas
21:04it was it was age of empires 2 that i wanted nerd alert yeah and uh yeah age of empires 2
21:15nerd um and it's christmas there's like a appropriately shaped box under the tree from a big box
21:25well a box shaped like that looks like it's what platforms are on it was pc at least that big box
21:32yeah yeah sort of a4 size but and uh inappropriately shaped box it was from my nana um and i ripped it
21:43here we you ripped it open and the nana the back the backs was age of empires 1 i've got a similar
21:54story but carry on and i was like this dumb bitch bought me the wrong present right but swerve
22:02she'd put the game age of empires 2 in the age of empires 1 box like a classic willborn family
22:09prank a classic swerve so but in the moment i was like oh great just what i always wanted
22:15and then it was quite a good swerve so like taught me very very very great but yeah it's going what's
22:22your oh no what's yours right okay um my phone's on charge over there so i
22:29this predates gran turismo actually um again i i was begging for this game begging begging begging
22:39begging obsessed street fighter for the mega drive street fighter team for the mega drive right
22:43um i've got all the graphic novels because my parent like magazines was the one thing they were
22:49like yep get as many as you want they weren't expensive and they encouraged me to read and i love
22:53reading so but problem was like there was stuff in the magazines i wanted to buy
22:56and one of them i did a graphic novel or a comic book or whatever of street fighter when i was about
23:05like eight nine ten or whatever i was i need the game i need the game i need the game i need the game
23:09get me the game get street fighter team mate i need it i need it need it so we're gonna get it one way or
23:19the other i think the way we're gonna get it is but i'm gonna be a little twat
23:23yeah so i know where this is going save yourself a lot of silly bother and just get me it but the
23:30thing is i didn't want street fighter 2 and that didn't sound as cool as street fighter 2 turbo
23:34what what so turbo at the end of it and i'm fairly certain i'd like different levels and there was
23:40like new characters like four different new characters that weren't in the original street
23:46fighter 2 and they're like i've got you the thing michael i was like sorry turbo is it
23:51so ungrateful i think they actually just no no you're getting they're playing that one yeah it
23:56was good yeah it was good i do remember once actually now you mentioned it because i was
24:00racking my brains there when i first got my ps1 i was like well there goes there goes my life
24:07like all the time that i was allowed to i was playing i was playing playing i was like wait a second
24:12i'm wasting valuable time that i could be playing ps1 going to school what if i just pretend to be
24:16ill right so first few times absolutely nailed it oscar winning performance then kind of got lazy
24:21kind of rested on my laurels a bit and i distinctly remember one morning being like oh i don't think i
24:27can go to school today dad and he was like what's the problem and i was like hadn't thought of why my
24:32stomach would hurt instead of just saying like oh i think i just ate something funny i just don't feel
24:37i feel awful like my stomach's in knots i came with some bollocks about like i walked into a table
24:43at school yesterday it's been it's been giving me jip all day to be honest and he was like that
24:47i remember hearing him go downstairs to talk to my mom and being like it's a load of bollocks but
24:52they were also like we can't force him to go to school so he just unplugged all my like electronics
24:58and just hid them somewhere or like took him to work with him or something i was like what i'm gonna do
25:02now jacket so as if you turn your nose up at that though
25:08read a bit of enid blight and watch a bit of daytime tv have a bit of jam on toast and then jacket
25:19probably anything so becky lynch joined the women's uh war games teams alongside aj lee
25:26uh on smack down
25:30i have enjoyed uh becky lynch's wait to see her back in action i've enjoyed she's gonna come in
25:40like a house of fire
25:41i've enjoyed becky lynch's erratic tweets more and more she's set to speak which i assume means just
25:49more you know more madness i'm excited to see lash legend in war games by the way yes no if they are
25:56clever and i don't know if they are like she needs to come in like what fourth fifth one because as
26:07good as she is and as much as she's improved like she's a what culture wrestling podcast favorite lash
26:12legend nxt if you know you know yeah still wouldn't entirely you know one if you put her in war games for
26:2025 minutes from the perspective of her character who was this jesus visually striking can kick your
26:26ass in two seconds and you're not getting up you want to see her sell no just lay around for like
26:31minutes and minutes and minutes on ending a war games match so if you introduce her late and then
26:37she just starts kicking ass good it's quite just sensible strategy she's the difference maker well
26:43let's bring her in at the end when everyone's a bit tired could be a star making performance if
26:46treated correctly chuck eo all over the place you know how i don't have any thoughts about wwe yeah
26:51then he pressed me for thoughts and then i give you some of them and then we go into tangents yes i
26:55had an independent thought by myself what about wwe just came to us i'm thinking what the hell am i
27:01thinking about that for especially when i'm not awake it's stupid but it's a bit of you i think
27:09so if you're not on x or twitter and i do not blame you becky lynch i would probably say in typical
27:18wwe style this is quite literally nine years no seven years or whatever no no nine years nine years
27:25after everyone started doing the same thing she started tweeting in the style of united states president
27:35current reigning president donald trump and god bless the united states
27:41like all caps at like random points when the blood's boiling the most and it's every other word
27:52nicknames yeah like big disgrace exclamation she's she's doing she's doing donald trump on twitter
27:59that's a new little fun thing that she's doing right it's not something a that i expected no
28:09not gonna do it on television you know she's not gonna go full donald trump on tv it'd be ridiculous
28:14and if anything triple a should have a word and say that's too hot that's too much there
28:18you can't be doing that that's just not nice you know so i don't think she'd be allowed to do it
28:22right i agree she can have a little bit of fun it's her twitter account views are her own etc etc etc
28:28so she can continue to do it on twitter she it's just as a nice little bit just for me just to
28:36prove there's a little bit of independent thought just as something to put a little smile on my face
28:40she should come out with the most horrendous orange dye job possible
28:43i agree yeah she should do that just as a little popper a little popper if you know well it's not
28:51exactly arcane but you know like this little thing that could just amuse me for one second
28:56of an otherwise uh stressful existence yeah i sense she's going to be a hype to kick aj lee's ass
29:04war games be determined to win her title back from maxine dupree which is not going to happen
29:11but i don't think maxine's going to hold it that long anyway so it's not going to really matter that
29:15much and see i i still think there's there's going to be a continuation of her maybe even they announce
29:20like jessica carr is the referee for war games for example and she's going to be like the conspiracy
29:24sort of continues because i don't know if they're actually going to do the match between
29:27becky and jessica especially if the rumors are true about like becky fighting for a world title
29:32it feels a weird diversion to go on even though we're what five months away from wrestlemania
29:36but yeah i think she's going to rant and rave and we're probably going to get another big schmoz
29:41like we got at the end of smack you think i think so yeah me too
29:44uh just get this out the way get the scene as retirement and then even i'll probably cheer up
29:51a little bit around january yeah as much as i say i don't like the rumble it's not not fascinating
29:58absolutely and it's you know we said this at the time however you felt about jay you so now you go
30:03into 2026 going well it's probably going to be sammy or punk or whoever but it could be
30:10el grande americano at this rate i mean that's not going nuts mate speaking of el grande americano
30:16though have you heard the uh the match that he's going to be working very soon in uh the dead man's
30:21promotion it's funny that they're doing it here of all places yeah tell the listeners come viewers
30:27it is speaking of which you know where they are tonight no they're in oklahoma at the page rumor
30:35in the words of jim ross oh yeah gonna comment the week tomorrow i love tuesdays uh they're at the
30:44pay com center in oklahoma pay com center all right um what's all about before jizz el grande americano
30:54oh yes thank you it is el grande americano and his best friend dominic mysterio
31:01versus the newly reunited lucha bros in triple a they should get um alex abraham as for one night
31:10only i did see you had seen him opening up full gear last night no i watched it last night it was
31:15on saturday obviously we'll talk more about him later i haven't missed him that is a great shout
31:23they're getting alex back one night funny uh taking longer than i anticipated putting the
31:30lucha bros back together me and andy were talking about on the news that it was like
31:32yeah probably after wrestlemania by summer at the absolute latest it's november dead man's like
31:36you're not going to do it oh yeah yeah it's not going to count really but just don't give a toss
31:42about phoenix at all on smackdown well penda's in act you want to talk about penda's match actually
31:45before we get to we're gonna have to okay uh we'll preview he's uh he's facing one of the stars
31:52of smackdown i'm i know you're very excited to talk about later on today the leader of the mfts
31:58solo sokoa
31:59oh uh well this match is gonna reek in it the solo sokoa is just not very good buddy
32:06i know you find him entertaining he was i understand why you find him entertaining in like
32:12backstage segments and all the rest of it and i also know that you and hamflat are like well
32:17a face paint that looks different that's good but my god solo sokoa versus penta is not going to
32:23be a very good match at all this tournament it sucks by the way so isn't the f***ing missing it twice
32:29i don't know zoe sheamus is yeah no ain't it right oh is he the replacement maybe i think i read that
32:39i don't know for sure that's spoiler maybe oh oh well so the winner of if if true and no maybe i
32:48just got fooled by a joke or whatever but if true i mean that is diabolical just like a series of
32:55pretty crap matches between a lot of like going nowhere mid-carders uh yeah there's some people
33:02who are over and i expect to do better things the other match i'm looking forward to tonight
33:06but like my god damien priest now and rusev what a waste of time the surprises were bobbins
33:12it's gunthers to lose you know i remember right uh before you actually learned how to do them
33:19because the c2s have been great and the last two ones were very good i mean tony kong was just like
33:26ah small joe in the first round will go up against uh serpentico and uh the winner of that match will
33:34you know go up against the winner of i don't know a star versus qt marshall
33:38and it's like right okay well that's the final let's get it over with this
33:43this tournament is crappy what's your what's the other one the other one i'm looking forward to
33:49gunther's had some already had a really fun match with javon obviously last week and then
33:53gunther versus carmelo hayes the winner of these two matches will face each other in the semis
33:57so pentasolo gunther mellow
34:00so that's tonight yeah look i i don't just have this blanket misery
34:08i said don't just but if you look at stylistically carmelo hayes and javon evans aren't too dissimilar
34:18the high flyers good in the air gunther has had a match that for me was only all right
34:24against the one who's got the most buzz and the most i don't know he's more exciting to watch i
34:30think javon evans so it's a very similar matchup stylistically where the story should unfold in the
34:36same way if it makes any sense at all where carmelo hayes is going to use a speed agility and aerial
34:42ability to try and fly around gunther and he's going to piss gunther off he's going to you need
34:47slapping down well you know yeah that's what it sounds like exactly this is going to be like
34:54a less interesting version of that they're doing it second
34:57they can't tell stories you know this fed in the cinema did they have to do the javon evans match
35:05against gunther first or could they have given him a win against one of the random belly over
35:09midcarders first and there's like oh christ this javon evans might go all the way bit of drama
35:14this tournament's whack
35:17you yeah so you could have had what javon beat bronson reed is what you're saying
35:23maybe not if they're building them for war games even though i think one's infinitely more talented
35:27than the other i mean i say like don't think about the brackets exist like now oh yeah you're just
35:33starting whatever i think there's a way to way but way better book this tournament that's not a
35:38sense of course that had built the as i said on the review last week the timing was wrong to do that
35:43match like it can't be javon's breakthrough when it's meant to be gunther's back and better than
35:49ever statement match whatever that two different stories to tell but only one story and one match
35:53to do it so i think you got the timing wrong i suppose they can they can sell this as like two of
35:58the two former nxt champions going up against each other gunther and mellow which will be fun
36:04i guess but yeah gunther's gunther's going all the way gunther's going all the way um i don't get
36:10the backlash about it by the way i'm just like i shouldn't be it shouldn't be gunther it should
36:14be someone else yes it should be gunther of course it'll be gunther it's been gunther from the moment
36:18this tournament was announced it was just about making an intriguing final i suppose you know whether
36:24it be like an l a knight or i mean j you so gunther could well be the final from i'm remembering again
36:31jesus christ uh now i've got no qualms about gunther so you then you'd get oh i'll tell you
36:38the funniest person to brag about that's ultimately what you're going to end up with this that could
36:42be that could be a bit of a tasty semi-final if you have because to lead to even though it's
36:49already been taped but never mind all that uh to lead to uh the traditional survivor series match
36:57it's going down on friday you could have sammy's gang if the mft mfts try to trees mft trees try to
37:04cheat uh get involved so that's already got that which means also the semi-final would be penta versus
37:11gunther see how that would be a match i want to see in all wcpw affairs many people are saying
37:17not just me phil says it as well sometimes phil doesn't talk about anything just gets his uh
37:23head down and dutifully does his very important job people could learn from it yeah yeah yeah
37:29we all could so i'll go i'll go penta gunther going through in their matches you that's it i assume you
37:34will concur yes okay so i said it like that finally ahead of survivor series don't worry i'm not going
37:42to talk about like nikki bella brome or anything like that dominic mysterio addresses john cena
37:48because of the rematch that they're having on saturday
37:51is dominic mysterio gonna rap
37:56i don't know but he should that's what i was just thinking he should yo yo yo because here's the thing
38:05if you don't rap and you try and rap you sound like a dickhead good news for dominic mysterio i'm
38:13meant to think he's a dickhead cm punk what uh that weekend was one of my favorite of the way of
38:21the air that cm punk humiliation ritual where he has to you know go to saudi apologize and he has
38:27to do a rap thing is like even if he nailed that rap right even if he nails it it's awful he's like 47
38:36years old look like an idiot stumbled bumbled over the batista line i think it was god good day to be
38:45a hater that was an unbelievable day to be a hater not that i hate cm punk i don't know him
38:51uh it's just funny funny don't you do a rap how about that sound
38:56he's gonna he's gonna have a he's gonna have a rhyme with you're you're a good rapper you used
39:02to do the rampage rap yeah a good rapper by the way they can freestyle exactly yeah so you should
39:09do it right now there's gonna be a line in there about having a deadbeat dad did you see by the way
39:16when he was on like a normal panel like a good morning america yeah so he's like my dad's a deadbeat
39:21and they're like oh okay uh what are we doing because they were showing the clips from raw obviously
39:25and he's like what kind of dad does that to their somewhat deadbeat ears i've always said that they're
39:29like anyway yeah he's done with the weather he's done with the weather it's always such a weird
39:34crossover that and they're just like we're here with uh the wrestler am i saying that right am i saying
39:41that right uh you guys is this what you do is it real you know is it just uh entertainment
39:52do you just five minutes of like or it's better yet get someone who knows yeah he's in the
39:57storyline it's lasted about four years or whatever with his father
40:02here's a deal with such contempt for wrestling okay who cares
40:09john cena
40:12people said that word life was rad but you got nothing on me because i've got a deadbeat dad
40:19how do you brag about that i don't know because he's because he thinks he's better than his dad
40:26uh is there a way to do talk about how he lasts long in the bedroom longer than his dad's
40:33world title reign when he faced john cena is that anything yeah i don't know really should have written
40:39something but uh i'll go away and write something i think uh kendrick's crown is safe
40:46i do want him to do a rap now though he should no in the old season he should he should
40:55look forward to it he's not gonna do it he should i think he might he could have
41:01that because you want him to yeah yeah
41:03anyway let us know your thoughts ahead for tonight in the comment section below or next and also let
41:10us know your uh first what we call this rage games yeah what was the game that you just were a little
41:17bastard about because you were so obsessed with nicholas he's nice a nice lad man he's too cool
41:23that's not true but we will talk about it after ah okay oh after hours
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