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Killer Grannies Season 1 Episode 2
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00:00in the kitchen. For Barbara Scott, it was home-cooked meals and a garden full of herbs.
00:07But beneath the rose of rosemary and thyme, Barbara buried a sinister secret.
00:16Benny and Barbara were a very happy couple. This was an idyllic 67-year-old grandmother
00:23and seemingly the perfect family in a small little town.
00:28A beloved couple living the ideal life are right at the center of a shocking case.
00:35He couldn't speak. He can't talk to you on the phone.
00:39Her daughter gets suspicious. Barbara looks at her and says, okay, here's the truth.
00:45A grandmother's story unravels like one drop stitch after another.
00:50It went from somebody slipped and fell in the tub to a bag, fully wrapped body in the ground.
00:59It's hard to imagine Barbara premeditating something like that.
01:03Barbara's previous husband had died unexpectedly.
01:07It's like being in a twilight zone. I just couldn't believe it.
01:13Who, especially a grandmother, drags a body to a backyard and plants an herb garden over it?
01:20It was shocking. The sinisterness of a sweet-looking old lady.
01:36Lake Alfred is a beautiful section of Florida. It's a very idyllic little community.
01:44You really would never suspect that there was anything awry.
01:47One of the happy couples living there is Benny and Barbara Scott.
01:53They'd been married 11 years. Barbara was well-liked by everybody in the neighborhood.
02:00And from all outward signs, she was an idyllic 67-year-old grandmother.
02:07She took care of her grandson, cared for her parents, loved her husband.
02:13Benny was initially from Oklahoma. He was 11 years older than she was.
02:18He moved to Florida from Oklahoma with Barbara. And everybody was happy.
02:23In January of 2012, Benny's health takes a mysterious and unexpected turn.
02:36Barbara was sending me text messages saying that dad had developed this cough or this sore throat.
02:43And then as time went by, it's developed into this where dad had laryngitis. He couldn't speak.
02:50He can't talk to you on the phone.
02:51And this went on for several months.
02:56When Barbara was telling Pam that Benny was sick with some throat infection,
03:02you know, I was kind of worried, hoping that he got better.
03:07I didn't have any reason not to believe her that dad had a throat ailment and he couldn't speak.
03:12I had no idea, sadly.
03:14Benny and my mother, Flo, met through a national guard in Oklahoma.
03:25They fell in love and got married when I was six. And he adopted me.
03:33Dad was Creek Indian, Seminole Indian. And he had two biological children. That was Tommy and Christy.
03:41Daddy. Dad was very funny, had the driest sense of humor, but he was strict.
03:48Boy, he was into manners. It was yes ma'am, no sir.
03:54I hated it at the time. But when I grew up as an adult, boy, those manners really come in handy.
03:59Benny and Pam's mom were married for 10 years before they split up, but remained close.
04:08They got divorced when I was 15 or 16. And we always, always kept in touch.
04:17Barbara came along several years later when I was in my early 30s.
04:23She lived just right next door to us. She lived there with her husband. And after he passed away,
04:32dad and Barbara just kind of hit it off. And one thing led to another. We were all kind of surprised,
04:39but hey, dad and Barbara had a great relationship. Barbara was real crafty. She was so talented. I was
04:48always amazed at the stuff that she would come up with making. And dad loved that. And then she loved to cook.
04:56They had a great life.
05:00Benny and Barbara eventually got hitched. And their two families, grandkids and all, became one.
05:07She was a grandmother to Kenny, which is Benny's daughter's son. Barbara was wonderful at taking
05:15care of him. She would buy school clothes for him. They were all the time going places. And she loved Kenny.
05:23Barbara doted on Kenny in Oklahoma, but she really missed her grandson in Florida. Then her daughter,
05:30Sonia, offered a great chance to bring everyone closer together.
05:34She had encouraged dad and Barbara to come there. They owned the house directly across the street
05:40from where they lived. And they said, you know, hey, we'll set you up in this house.
05:44Just come and help take care of Sonia's son and come enjoy Florida. And that's where they both moved to.
05:52They were there quite a few years and dad loved it.
05:56We'd see them around Christmas. They would come back to Oklahoma and just kind of random other times
06:03They made the trip by car. And Barbara would always drive.
06:11The last time they drove to Oklahoma was in December 2011.
06:17Barbara and Benny came to visit for the holidays.
06:23And they were going to be here a week or so. So I had offered up my mother's home.
06:28At this point, my mother had been passed away by almost a year. And so I just said,
06:35Dad, Barbara, just stay here. Enjoy yourselves.
06:40Last time we seen them, they were just like they always were. Seemed just fine to me.
06:45Now, what goes on behind the scenes in people's lives, you never know.
06:58A few days after they returned to Florida,
07:01Barbara texted Pam that Benny was under the weather. And then he apparently stayed sick from January through March.
07:08It had been months since I had talked to my dad over the phone.
07:14Much less see him. He was in another state.
07:17So all I had were these smatterings of text messages from from her saying,
07:24Benny's going to go to the doctor. They're going to have to do a surgery.
07:27But I had no suspicions at all about the well-being of my father until the day I got a phone call from Stephen, Barbara's son.
07:41And he called me and he said, Pam, when's the last time you talked to your dad?
07:46And I said, well, it's been a couple of months because he can't talk on the phone. He doesn't have a voice.
07:51And he said, Pam, he said, I don't know what to tell you, but your dad, he's lying to you.
07:56He's been back in Oklahoma for the last two or three months.
07:59I was stunned at first. And then I was like, look, Stephen, my dad would never come back to Oklahoma and not contact me.
08:08There's no way. No way. Stephen had told me that's what Sonia said.
08:13So he got real quiet and he said, I'm going to I'm going to call my sister back.
08:18He's talking to his sister. His sister's talking to Barbara, trying to piece everybody's stories together.
08:27He did contact me back fairly quickly and said, I don't know how to tell you this, but apparently your dad is passed away.
08:36Barbara found dad in the shower in the bathroom on January 2nd and freaked out, didn't know what to do and basically just drag him out and buried him in their backyard.
08:49I swear it's like being in a twilight zone. I mean, I just couldn't believe it. It was so shocking, so shocking.
08:59As soon as Pam has a chance to catch her breath, Stephen lets her know that his mom and Sonia are on their way to see the police.
09:09My duty officer that day, Officer Jeff Blows, called me and said that he needed to talk about something and it was kind of bizarre.
09:23He had Barbara Scott at the police department.
09:26She said her husband had died and she had buried him in the backyard.
09:31With the information that we had preliminarily was she could have been tampering or failing to report a death.
09:42But this story being so bizarre, you really need to look a little more in depth.
09:46Is there a mental situation going on with this person?
09:50Maybe dementia, something else is involved that we don't know about.
09:56After hearing the story, Officer Jeffrey Blows, he pulls Sonia aside and goes,
10:03Is this real? I mean, she's 67. She's elderly. Does she have dementia? Is she making up?
10:09And Sonia, still in somewhat of a state of shock, says to Officer Blows,
10:16I believe my mother. I think it really happened.
10:20My mother buried him in the backyard.
10:22She didn't want to notify authorities because she was embarrassed and panicked.
10:31We first dig the herbs up and we get a hint of the smell of decomposition.
10:37The neighbors are saying, well, Barbara, why are you selling all of Benny's stuff?
10:43Nothing matched. Are we looking at a pattern of a psychopath? I mean, what are we looking at?
10:52When beloved granny, Barbara Scott, drops the bombshell that she buried her husband, Benny, in their backyard,
11:02the startled Lake Alfred officers know they need backup right away.
11:07I made contact with the Polk County Sheriff's Office to request assistance.
11:11I was told that Barbara Scott was at the Lake Alfred Police Department with her daughter and her attorney.
11:19I then proceeded to the Lake Alfred Police Department to get as much information as I could and figure out what the heck was going on.
11:25As Detective Clark heads to the station, the cops split Barbara and Sonia up.
11:34They're going to want to interview Barbara alone.
11:37I get to the police department.
11:39When I first saw Barbara, she wasn't nervous.
11:42She just had that look like a, you know, sophisticated grandmother.
11:47I sat down with Barbara Scott and her attorney and I asked them to run me through what was going on.
11:54And Barbara said that her husband, his name was Benny, had died while he was in the shower on January 2nd.
12:01She said she found the body at 11 a.m., somewhere roughly around there.
12:11And that she thinks that he hit his head and fell because there was some blood around his head.
12:18And she didn't know what to do.
12:21Barbara says when she gathered her thoughts together, she put him on a bathroom rug and then dragged him into the backyard.
12:29She said that he would be underneath the herb garden that she planted over him after she buried him.
12:41My first instinct was who, especially a grandmother, drags a body to a backyard and buries it and plants an herb garden over it.
12:52So I tried to dwell a little deeper, especially into him hitting his head.
12:58What did he hit? Where did he fall?
13:01She seemed a little perplexed by my questions.
13:04And then I was asked to step out by her attorney so they could talk some more.
13:09Ten minutes later, you know, I went back in and her attorney said they needed to clarify some things,
13:14that it was possibly a bullet hole in his head because she did find a gun outside the shower.
13:22She says, well, I think he might have shot himself, but I'm not sure.
13:26But I saw the gun. I saw the blood. Maybe he didn't shoot himself. Maybe he hit his head.
13:30We have a story changing, but in the versions of the story, she didn't want to notify authorities because she was embarrassed and panicked
13:40and being embarrassed for the family that Benny would have done that to himself.
13:45When we look at people responding to traumatic events, they're quite unpredictable.
13:54It's not outside of the realm of possibilities that, in this case, someone discovers that their partner,
14:01their husband, committed suicide and they're shocked by it.
14:04It could be a possibility that someone will react in a way that they're trying to hide what happened.
14:10Barbara had told everyone in Florida that she talked to that Benny was in Oklahoma.
14:16She told everybody in Oklahoma that Benny was there in Florida, sick with throat cancer, and couldn't talk on the phone.
14:23In talking to Ms. Scott, she was very lucid.
14:25I didn't think she had any memory issues or any onset of dementia or anything.
14:31With Barbara's story changing, first it's an accident, now it's a suicide.
14:36The cops want to see the house before they talk to anyone else about whether or not Benny might have killed himself.
14:44We concluded the interview, and I write a complete search warrant for the residents and prepare to start the following morning.
14:53We first dig the herbs up, and then we get down maybe, I want to say, four, four and a half feet, and we get a hint of the smell of decomposition.
15:08So we slow down and layer by layer start removing the dirt, and we find a body that is wrapped in a tarp.
15:19Slowly bring the body out of the tarp.
15:25We can clearly see the bullet hole in his head, and realize that he is bound, his hands and his feet tied behind him in a ball.
15:38Looks like it's been a professional hit.
15:42Everybody was shocked.
15:43This does not look like a suicide.
15:46This looks like a homicide.
15:47When you're hearing a story, and it went from somebody slipped and fell in the tub to somebody committed suicide to we have a bagged, fully wrapped body in the ground, just extremes in where we're at at this point.
16:06It was something I hope I never have to see again in my life, and it definitely was a different mindset that day, seeing that body brought from the ground.
16:14My immediate reaction was, I need to talk to Barbara again, to clarify some things.
16:21So I called her attorney, told him we had some issues that I needed to talk to him about, and I explained to him what I saw, and he himself was shocked.
16:34Told me he'd get back with me.
16:35Called me back an hour or so later.
16:38Said he's talked to Barbara, and at this point he was requesting that I not have any more communication with her, which I understood.
16:44He said that Barbara explained that after she found his body, she took him to the garage and put him on the tarp, and left him there for a few days, because she didn't know what to do.
16:58And then decided that she would tie him up to make it easier to drag him through the home, and then buried him like that.
17:13And he told me where the gun was, in a drawer within the home.
17:17And that was pretty much the extent of it.
17:19Was Barbara embarrassed that he committed suicide, or was there foul play involved?
17:27We certainly know there's tampering with evidence, but we didn't really have that full picture about what happened to Benny.
17:35You're innocent until proven guilty.
17:37So we needed to look into every aspect of Barbara's statement, and so we transported the body to the medical examiner for an autopsy.
17:47Next up, the investigators searched the house for anything that might back up or contradict Barbara's story.
17:56There was areas throughout the house where you could see that there was blood that had been cleaned up.
18:04We did find some blood in the shower.
18:06We found little spots of blood where it looked like maybe he did get taken to the garage, and did get pulled from the garage,
18:14because we had it through the counter, which led to the back door.
18:18In the garage on the floor, you could actually see where somebody had tried to clean something up,
18:26but you could still see that there was blood staying there in the concrete on the carport floor.
18:31So the blood evidence that we found matched that, yes, he likely died in the shower because there was blood on the ceiling,
18:41and that he was probably taken to the garage.
18:45That corroborated at least that part of the story.
18:47And then we did find the gun that Barbara had said would be in one of the drawers.
18:54It was in a Crown Royal bag.
18:57They found the box of ammunition, 25 bullets in there, and a .22 caliber gun.
19:04And there is one spent shell casing that they find in the gun.
19:13We had checked to see if Benny or Barbara had any guns that they had purchased, and they hadn't purchased anything.
19:22Knowing that Benny and Barbara did not have any registered firearms or known to have firearms,
19:28it was absolutely important to track down where this firearm came from
19:32and be able to pinpoint the responsible person that may have had the gun to prove it's a suicide or it's a murder.
19:41Detectives, they are asking a little bit more questions to try to understand whether Benny was depressed, fatalistic,
19:47where those would be markers consistent with someone on a downward spiral.
19:52Looking for anything that can help them figure out if Benny Scott took his own life or someone else did,
20:05the cops decide they need to hear from people who knew the couple.
20:09While they get ready for a longer chat with Barbara's daughter, Sonia, they reach out to neighbors first.
20:17The neighbors reported they hadn't seen Benny in weeks or months.
20:22And we did determine from one neighbor that Barbara had been having garage sales in the front of her house.
20:31Some of the neighbors that had been to the garage sales had said that they had noticed a lot of Benny's stuff was being sold in those sales.
20:40And the neighbors are saying, well, Barbara, why are you selling all of Benny's stuff?
20:46And she says, well, he's going to stay in Oklahoma.
20:48He's having a blast with his friends.
20:51And he just realized he was not cut out to be in Florida.
20:56Our marriage is over.
20:57I don't want to keep his stuff.
20:59So I'm going to sell his stuff off.
21:03One neighbor said that she had questioned Barbara a little more and that she got a little agitated and upset about it,
21:09which he found a little odd.
21:10So, at this point, I'm getting suspicious of everything.
21:17I think that she's just probably a pretty devious woman.
21:21So next, the detectives sit down with Sonia, Barbara's daughter, to see if they can get any more details about what's happening.
21:29They want to know, what do you know about what your mom did to Benny?
21:32Barbara's daughter had mentioned just shortly after the new year that her mother had went into cleanup mode.
21:42She got spray bottles and cleaning supplies.
21:45Barbara had told her that she had had some fleas in the house.
21:48And they bombed the house, tried to get rid of the fleas.
21:51Can't get rid of the fleas.
21:52So nobody can come to the house.
21:54Nobody can see Benny at all.
21:57Sonia says she understood about the fleas.
22:02Her mom obviously didn't want them to spread.
22:05But once they were gone, Barbara casually announced that Benny was back in Oklahoma.
22:10He wanted to be with his friends.
22:12So for about two months, Sonia's just figuring that's where Benny is.
22:18End of March, Steve Broadway, who is Barbara's son and Sonia's brother and still lived in Oklahoma,
22:27calls Sonia.
22:29He says, we got a call from mom.
22:33And she said that there's a storage unit in Oklahoma that I need to clear out.
22:39Steve opened it up and saw a bunch of Benny's possessions.
22:44Now, they're still thinking that Benny is in Florida.
22:53So he says, mom wants me to junk all of Benny's stuff.
22:58I just don't think it's right.
23:01And then Sonia says to Steve, well, he's in Oklahoma.
23:06Why don't you ask him?
23:07Steve says, he's not in Oklahoma.
23:12He's in Florida.
23:14Pam Harris told me that.
23:16Sonia, after talking to Steve and realizing something's not right, she says, mom, let's go for a drive.
23:22So they drive to Lake Alfred Park.
23:26And she goes, mom, something's not right here.
23:30Steve talked to Pam.
23:33And she said that he's not in Oklahoma.
23:35He's in Florida.
23:36And finally, Barbara looks at her and says, okay, here's the truth.
23:42Benny slipped in the shower, hit his head, and he died.
23:47And I just took him into the backyard and buried him.
23:53And Sonia is trying to remain calm about this.
23:58But inside, her emotions are in complete turmoil.
24:04Sonia looks at her mother and says, we're going straight to the police department.
24:09So at that point, we mentioned that Barbara had said he could have committed suicide.
24:18And the daughter said that she didn't feel that he would have committed suicide, that he loved life and he enjoyed his life.
24:29Barbara's daughter also mentioned a trip that she accompanied Benny to the hospital where there was an issue with his pacemaker.
24:35He had to have it readjusted and that he actually got emotional and was scared of his mortality.
24:42And made the comment that, I hope we can get this fixed.
24:45I don't want to die.
24:45I'm not ready to die.
24:46And that he was very strong about that.
24:50Detectives decide to ask Sonia two obvious questions.
24:55How was her mother acting just before Benny's death?
24:58And did she have a motive to kill him?
25:01She told us that Barbara had been under a lot of stress, that she had been taking care of her mother and her stepfather, and she was having to take care of Benny, and that he wanted her by her side at all times, and that she was overwhelmed, and she got emotional sometimes about it.
25:17Our pressure is not only internally in fulfilling those roles, but society as well, that she's doing her duty to take care of her own tribe in a way.
25:31Sometimes that role could start to chip away at someone's sense of compassion and empathy.
25:37But the daughter didn't mention that she felt that Barbara was at the point of homicide.
25:45The last person that they would think of acting out in a murderous way would be Grandma.
25:55So detectives are trying to figure out what's going on, put all the pieces together.
26:00And if Benny didn't commit suicide, could it be premeditated, something much more sinister?
26:07So they looked into her past, and they found that Barbara, the kindly, caregiving 67-year-old grandmother, had a rap sheet.
26:18When the cops go digging into Barbara Scott's background, guess what?
26:28This seemingly gracious granny has a rap sheet.
26:33I found where she had a pretty significant arrest back in 1988 for embezzlement in Norman, Oklahoma.
26:42Detectives found out that Barbara was working in Norman, Oklahoma, as the manager of an insurance company.
26:54And she subsequently fired the bookkeeper and took over the duties.
27:00All of a sudden, the owner of the insurance company was getting suspicious.
27:04Things weren't adding up and jiving in the books.
27:07So he confronted Barbara and said, what's going on?
27:11And she admitted that she had been taking a little bit of money.
27:16She was then fired.
27:19They did an audit and found out that over time, she was taking a little bit of money here, a little bit of money there.
27:25And it was about $64,000.
27:27And she ultimately did five years in prison for that charge.
27:31For Barbara to be able to pull off this crime for as long as she did, she did have to be somewhat controlled, well-controlled, and well-rehearsed.
27:42So that starts to come off as someone who has some antisocial personality traits.
27:47When thinking now of Barbara's possibility of her harming her own husband, predictors are present of her willingness to step out of the social norms, to break the law, in order to solve her own problems or satisfy her own need.
28:03We also learned that Barbara's previous husband, Marvin, had died unexpectedly in the bathtub.
28:11You've got this, you know, sweet-looking grandmother who maybe committed two murders.
28:19Are we looking at a pattern of psychopath?
28:24I mean, what are we looking at?
28:27I went out to Oklahoma City.
28:29I met with the police department there and pulled their report.
28:32It was determined that Marvin Tulate's death was caused by intense ethanol intoxication.
28:40In other words, he drank himself to death.
28:45He was 53 years old.
28:47Not only did Marvin have a ton of alcohol in his system, but he also had liver cirrhosis.
28:54So his manner of death was ruled an accident.
28:57After hearing all this, it gets your mind spinning, but, you know, we had to focus on the facts of our case.
29:05While I was in Oklahoma, I met with Benny's friends, his family, his daughter Pam, and I interviewed them about Benny's mindset and about the visit when Barbara and Benny had came up there.
29:18Because Barbara was alleged it was possibly suicide, I wanted to get statements from the family.
29:24Detectives came to the house, and that's when they told me how they found Dad.
29:34And I just broke down.
29:36It broke my heart.
29:38What she did to him was wrap him up like he's a piece of trash.
29:42And I wish that I could remember all the questions that he asked, but he was basically asking, did any of us think that he could have killed himself?
29:54And did anybody think that Barbara could have done it?
29:57It was just such a surreal moment.
29:59There was a lot of anger.
30:01And I knew, I knew my dad.
30:05My dad would never have shot himself.
30:07Ever.
30:07Pam did say to the detective that when Barbara and Benny last visited Oklahoma, they stayed in a home that Pam and her husband Gary owned for about 10 days.
30:21I didn't notice Barbara being a caregiver.
30:25I always thought Benny took care of himself pretty good.
30:29You could tell he was getting tired easier.
30:33But Dad was active.
30:34I just wonder if somewhere along the way, Barbara's mind just snapped.
30:43Detective Clark heads back to Florida.
30:47Meanwhile, it's time for Benny's autopsy.
30:52Dr. Nelson performed an autopsy on Benny.
30:56And at conclusion of the autopsy, he advised us that this was likely not a suicide.
31:00The bullet hole was on the left side of Benny's head.
31:06We knew Benny was right-handed.
31:08It had also been shot from a short distance.
31:11It was not a contact wound.
31:15It was from back to front.
31:17And a downward angle.
31:19So it would have been almost an impossible shot that Benny could have done himself.
31:28Dr. Nelson ruled the cause of death to be the gunshot wound to the head and the manner of the death to be homicide.
31:33Dr. Nelson, the medical examiner, also finds that he has the pacemaker, gets the serial number off the pacemaker, and contacts the manufacturer, which then allows them to find the exact time of death.
31:51In the pacemaker, it shows that Benny died at 3 a.m. on January 2nd.
32:00After the results of the pacemaker, it's impossible, not even plausible, that anything Barbara told us was true.
32:08Barbara said that this happened between 9 and 11, so nothing matched other than the location of the gun and the location of the body.
32:18That's the only thing that she said that was true.
32:20We know the gun was a major part of this crime scene.
32:25We need to find out where the gun came from, because the time frame of that was very important to show evidence in this case of first-degree murder.
32:37At this point, I really want to find out where this gun came from, and I've got to find out who owns this gun.
32:42Now that Benny Scott's death is officially a murder, Detective Clark has got to figure out where that gun came from, and when Barbara got it, because that information could prove that she did it and planned to.
33:01I start questioning Benny and Barbara's family members.
33:06One person I talked to was Benny's son-in-law, Gary.
33:09I knew that Barbara and Benny had visited Oklahoma, and I asked him, did they own guns?
33:18He said they did.
33:19At Pam's mom's house, we had a gun safe in a closet, but it was locked up, and we had the key to it.
33:27Gary said that he was pretty confident all his guns were locked away in the safe, and that they were all accounted for.
33:35So I asked him if they would just double-check, because I wanted to make sure I covered all the bases.
33:39So me and Pam get in the car, and we're driving to my wife's parents' house, and on the way over there, it hit me that a gun that I had put in the garage was maybe gone,
33:53because like a week before that, I had cleaned everything out of that garage, and that gun wasn't there when I cleaned the garage out.
34:01And so we get over there, and the first thing I do is I go to where I knew that gun was on that shelf, and it was not there.
34:17And that's when we called David Clark back, and he asked if I could describe it, and I said, yeah, it was a little short-nosed .22 with a little leather case.
34:27Gary had mentioned that he had the gun in a Crown Royal bag.
34:31in his garage, and we found the gun in Barbara's house, in the drawer she told us it would be in, in that Crown Royal bag.
34:40So I ran down to the evidence room, pulled the gun out, took a picture of the gun in the Crown Royal bag, sent it to Gary, and said,
34:48well, this happened to be your gun, and he immediately said, absolutely, that is my gun.
34:53Once I realized the gun had been stolen from Oklahoma, I flew up to Oklahoma City.
35:04I met with Oklahoma City Police Department, explained to them what I had going on, and I requested they go out to the house with me and do an investigation into the stolen gun just to cover all my bases.
35:15They brought a crime scene unit out and processed the area that the gun was taken from, and did a report on that.
35:24I took a statement from Gary about that gun, so that I had that.
35:33It's hard to imagine Barbara premeditating something like that.
35:37What in the world was she thinking?
35:40With proof in hand, Detective Clark goes back to Florida, hoping to get Barbara indicted for first-degree murder.
35:48If she's indicted, she'll finally be arrested.
35:54I came back, and we just put everything together.
35:58We put the medical examiner's report, Barbara's statements, her daughter's statements, everybody from Oklahoma's statements, and we presented it to a grand jury.
36:10We spent a day presenting all the evidence we had to the grand jury.
36:15And then, of course, Barbara and her attorney have the opportunity to speak in front of them and give their side of events.
36:24Barbara told the grand jury that Benny had killed himself.
36:28He committed suicide.
36:30Too shocked to really do anything.
36:33She thinks, okay, I'm going to take him into the herb garden where the hole is already dug.
36:40And put his body in there, which is what Barbara told the jury she did.
36:45And then she said she had no idea where the gun came from.
36:51I think what Barbara was maybe trying to get across was that Ben, my dad, found the gun.
36:59And took it.
37:02And drove it back to Florida with him.
37:05He wouldn't have done that.
37:06He's as honest as the day is long.
37:09Despite what Barbara told the grand jury, Sonia told the grand jury that when her mother told her about Benny's death, she didn't shed a tear.
37:20Initially, she was extremely sympathetic toward her mother.
37:23But as the evidence unfolded, she realized that her mother killed Benny.
37:31While the jury was deliberating, she sat by herself out there on a bench.
37:36Detective Clark had sent me a picture.
37:39The jury deliberates for only 90 minutes.
37:42That's really, really quick.
37:44Was there enough evidence to make an arrest?
37:47Two weeks after the cops first started looking into Benny Scott's death, a grand jury decides if his wife, Barbara, killed him.
38:04The grand jury came back with a first-degree murder indictment.
38:08And once the grand jury gave us that indictment, we went and arrested Barbara.
38:13The evidence showed that she was more than just a sweet little old grandmother caretaker.
38:24I was glad to hear that.
38:26I felt like that's what needed to happen.
38:28She needed to go to jail.
38:32I was shocked but happy.
38:34I knew that she had done it.
38:36It was just shocking that the woman that I knew, Barbara,
38:40it's just hard to imagine her doing that.
38:43Once we arrested Barbara, she remained in custody for about two years.
38:50Barbara maintained her innocence the entire time.
38:54She never changed that one iota.
38:58She was innocent.
39:00So she said it.
39:02Two years later, Barbara's murder trial begins.
39:05Barbara still claims that she's innocent.
39:12But the lawyers present plenty of evidence that she's not.
39:18But the prosecution says that Barbara was tired of being a caretaker.
39:24And she killed her husband to relieve herself of the burden of having to take care of everybody.
39:30When someone develops a distorted sense of their situation and convinces themselves that potentially maybe ending the life of her husband may be even helpful to him, helpful to her,
39:41At that point, they may start to rehearse in their head how they can pull this off.
39:47And then you have to gain a means.
39:50The prosecution argued that Barbara stole the murder weapon, the gun, from her son-in-law, Gary, and then planned the murder.
39:59We felt pretty confident with that short deliberation from the grand jury that we weren't going to have any problem convicting her.
40:12The attorney called us and said, okay, the jury's going to go out and deliberate.
40:16And it wasn't even an hour and a half later.
40:20She was found guilty.
40:23She was found guilty of first-degree murder and tampering with evidence.
40:27And was sent to prison for life, which wasn't very long.
40:33Her life didn't last but about a year or so.
40:37From what I understood, she was in the mess hall getting food and stood up and had a massive stroke and fell over dead.
40:47No matter how angry I am about the fact that Barbara murdered my dad, I always felt empathy and sympathy for Sonia and Stephen.
40:57If this would have been my mother, I would have totally been just devastated.
41:05Barbara's dead.
41:07But the memories and questions about this once happy couple are still swirling around.
41:13Benny's dad, he was the only dad I knew.
41:18And I was just so grateful to have been raised by a guy that had the kind of morals he had.
41:26And it formed me into the person that I am today.
41:29Benny's such a nice guy.
41:31And I never talked to Barbara again.
41:34But I would have liked to ask her, why did you do that, Barbara?
41:38I've thought many times after this about what Barbara's mindset might have been that she would need to do this.
41:48What was the turning point?
41:51Just not sure.
41:52She had this facade of being the kind elderly granny where I think she was just a cold-blooded killer.
42:02I don't know why she did it.
42:06You can speculate all you want.
42:07But I don't think in my whole career, and I worked a lot of homicides, that I had one quite like that with the sinisterness of a sweet-looking old lady.
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