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After the First 48 (2008) Season 11 Episode 4
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00:01The following program documents a real homicide case,
00:04the investigation, the pursuit of justice,
00:06and the lasting impact on the loved ones left behind.
00:14We got a tentative count of six wounds to her body.
00:18There's a lot of anger there.
00:20This is a violent death.
00:23We're gonna give it every ounce of the respect that she deserves.
00:27Her life matters.
00:28For those most affected by a homicide.
00:31I searched my heart to see who would have done this to my mom.
00:35It had to have been somebody that she knew.
00:38The first 48 is just the beginning.
00:41This is not a typical homicide case.
00:45Do we have another victim here?
00:47Is he dead?
00:48And I'm like, oh my God.
00:50It's just like light bulb.
00:53Is he gonna have a weapon?
00:54The defense was gonna try to paint Miss Campbell as a very violent aggressor.
01:01It was either him or her.
01:03So we had a very viable self-defense claim.
01:06If they were successful, we knew that he would be acquitted.
01:09I quit it.
01:10This is the story of the fight for justice.
01:13In the weeks, months, and years.
01:16I miss her so much.
01:18After the first 48.
01:23In the Treme neighborhood.
01:24You all asleep, hello?
01:25Yeah, but lady laying in the flat.
01:26She full of blood.
01:27First responders race to the scene.
01:28But it's too late.
01:29The woman is dead.
01:30The woman is dead.
01:31But it's too late.
01:32The woman is dead.
01:46first responders race to the scene but it's too late the woman is dead
02:03when you're up for a homicide you're kind of on edge you're just waiting for
02:08that bell to ring and when that bell rings it's go time my daddy worked in
02:15homicide this to me is a career it's not a job and it is a calling
02:26it's your stab
02:31found the id
02:34fanny campbell
02:39fanny was 58 years old and worked as a cook in the tremay neighborhood
02:44she leaves behind two daughters and a grandson
02:50everyone's life matters she did not deserve to be murdered to death that morning
02:56like her life has a value that's why my job is to solve this crime
03:01the throat's cut
03:04that's probably the fatal one there
03:05got a tentative count of six wounds to her body on the side of her neck
03:15one above her breast the front of each shoulder she has two puncture wounds to her abdomen
03:21there's a lot of anger there to actually stab somebody that many times
03:29this is a violent death that she endured
03:33you know that it's up close and personal she had defensive wounds so obviously
03:41she was in some kind of struggle with her attacker as she's being stabbed
03:45so who what when where why this happened all these answers we don't know it was just uh
03:53kind of like an atypical crime scene i'll take the big picture first and then start moving in
04:00smaller and smaller perfume got some peppermint candies
04:11it could have been a robbery that went wrong
04:15but a woman stabbed to death we lean towards domestic but you know no one heard any screaming
04:20or any fighting and then the white sheet is very uncharacteristic of something happening there
04:26which kind of started making us lean more towards her body was actually discarded there
04:30and the crime happened somewhere else and that was our starting point
04:36this is going to be an old-fashioned whodunit
04:43five hours in
04:47i'm going to do a criminal history check i needed to get an understanding of who my victim was
04:57his prior convictions only for cocaine looks like her last arrest was in april of this year for
05:04aggravated battery we found some things in fanny's past but that didn't change the fact that me and
05:11rob were gonna run on that case and give it every ounce of the respect that she deserved
05:17this detective ward yes ma'am
05:26sorry about your mama fanny's daughter just learned from the coroner's office that her mother was
05:33violently murdered when i got the phone call that fanny was found dead literally my toenails caught
05:40a fire i screamed from the pits of hell to heaven gates because i couldn't understand how i was just
05:47with her and she was going just like that that is a day i never forget my life changed completely
05:58if it's okay with you me and my partner we'd like to come over and talk to you
06:01all right she may have some insight as to what's going on
06:10we meet people on their worst day
06:16the investigation is still new right now when the detectives came to my house
06:21i searched my heart to see who would have done this to my mom
06:25we're trying to find out anything we can about your mom about her history i can give it to you
06:30she gave me up for adoption i found her at 16. she's been rough her whole life i'm not ashamed to
06:36see my mama did drugs right because she left me with a good life so i can't see nothing bad about my mom
06:43i'm grateful to her because i didn't have to go through the struggle i wasn't out there with her
06:49addictions i was adopted from 29 days old and when i was introduced to fatty we didn't rekindle pain
06:59we brought laughter and happiness to each other she was just living her life but it was snatched
07:06was she stabbed and shot said no man she was just stabbed but she was stabbed several times
07:12there was a brutal standing yes ma'am somebody who had some anger in her heart
07:16listen to me listen to me good a mama wasn't the type of woman that you can just fight her and get
07:24away with she used to carry a razor blade under her tongue she's not scared it had to been somebody
07:31that she know to get that close upon her to do that much damage to and that's why i want to ask you
07:36if there's anybody that you suspect of who might have done her so that's when i told them i knew it
07:42couldn't have been nobody but him to be honest with you from my gut one person that really would
07:49want my mama hurt like that would be tom tom seaborn gibson was my mom's boyfriend of 30 plus years
07:59my mama was a beautiful spirit so she would gravitate to everybody and he didn't like that tom was a very
08:06controlling person like this old little man he didn't want nobody to have his family he's older
08:12is he capable of anything that's the only person i could see looking at the violent nature of her death
08:19i'm not thinking that someone of that age could have been responsible she's got a history of drugs so
08:27it could have been a whole different person that stabbed fanny we needed to find out more when was the
08:32last time you went to the house on saint phillip i talked to tom and everything was all good he said
08:37your mama crazy she said he's crazy he'd be hiding that and then it was back and forth there was a
08:43history of domestic violence but she doesn't mean he killed her but it's a possible motive what is
08:49tom drawing your car tower was black with rims f-150 is burgundy burgundy f-150 he hasn't called you in a
08:58something like that haven't called me haven't told me nothing
09:03tom can be the guy we have to explore him further now because that's the only name we have at this
09:07point man go ahead pitch yourself up
09:13she look different than this
09:25you're gonna have that it was a booking photo i certainly wasn't going to deny her that opportunity
09:30to have that photo of her mama
09:35where's all people's it's all right
09:41your common-law wife for 30 years is dead if everybody else knows it i'm sure he knows it
09:48me and rob thought it was suspicious that seabon hadn't reached out to danielle
09:55we needed to figure out why we needed to figure out pretty quick
10:00we're making fanny's famous fried pork chops she was just so full of life
10:21made me smile kept me going kept me to where i wanted to be just like her so i'm making what i know
10:29she would love chops we live in a world where everyone judges but not mama she didn't me coming out
10:39in 1996 out of the closet my mom was my best friend for that she said baby god don't judge so how can i
10:47judge that was the most important thing for me in the world to be whatever i wanted to be
10:54we're gonna do a test look at her ain't that pretty mm-hmm even though my mother had her own struggles
11:04she was still my mother and a human being well mama we get to eat a pool chop together
11:12oh that's good eating right now this was the last time that we actually hung out together and
11:28she told me she said baby this is going up again
11:31who would have known that that meant this is the last sign
11:37i miss you mama
11:51how far away is the house from the family four or five blocks
12:05that's a pretty big clue that they live together and you know closer to the scene
12:11eight hours since fanny was killed fanny had been in a tumultuous violent relationship for over 23 years
12:20with a guide you got to follow up on at that point
12:26the tahoe with rims there it is and two trucks
12:33so get into the apartment we see c bond's vehicles
12:41several peppermints in the back of his truck
12:43we located peppermint on the scene sometimes in an investigation you get
12:51get little hints and i felt like i was in the right direction
12:56i see them blood back here
12:57c bond live upstairs and we're looking at this locked gate
13:10like the only way in there is up you think i'm climbing that fence there's no way i'm calling that
13:16fence you can climb the fence i enjoy supper time too much to climb that fence
13:21get it
13:31it's very dark i see like a broken pane of glass
13:39we don't know if like did the crime happen here is tom a victim is tom okay
13:44it was a rush it was it was exciting knowing that we possibly found the initial crime scene when this
14:07crime actually occurred
14:1211 hours in while i was typing the warrant for his residence rob was looking up c bond
14:20c bond tom gibson is a retired truck driver who's lived in new orleans for over 50 years
14:27he's 75 years old
14:29had parole for attempted secondary murder 95 97 so he has aggravated burglary 93
14:38theft just looking at him and his age it just didn't register that he
14:44was our perpetrator what's the chances of a 75 year old man overpowering and killing
14:52the victim do you think this man could drag her down the steps and put her in a truck and don't
14:56you think he's got the strength to do that i don't know i don't know we had three options
15:03a c bond did it he killed fanny he somehow got her in this truck got her to this field and he he's our
15:09guy b he killed fanny and then maybe he killed himself or c do we have another victim here is is he
15:18dead this is weird we'll see what happens man see what's in that house
15:26whole vehicle's still there
15:27bearer finds tom's landlord
15:37and at that point we didn't know what we were going to find
15:54come to the door
15:58and look what you see the blood
16:02i just need a couple of units to help me and my partner uh conduct a search
16:06can you uh raise crime letter unit for me
16:12i got something to do
16:14he's alive but i couldn't see his hands
16:19come out come out with your hands up
16:21i couldn't see his hands and you're starting to think hey what's really going on here
16:40come on come out here come out with your hands up
16:45do you have any weapons on you all right 14 hours into the investigation
16:55at that point i'm like there was no way he could have dragged a human body down those stairs got her
17:01in a truck it just didn't seem logical he could pretty much barely walk was tom capable of committing
17:07this crime
17:14we're trained to look at people's hands when they come out because it's the hands that could hurt you
17:19how about to your hand man i cut my hand on my hands i don't know today
17:26when you're involved in a violent encounter like a stabbing a lot of times a perpetrator cuts himself
17:30we'll go up to headquarters and talk okay
17:32he was not under arrest at this point i didn't want to make him think that i believed he was my
17:39prime suspect had a theory so let him ride in the front seat with me up the headquarters
17:45i stayed behind and do the search and the processing of the crime scene
17:48it was really important for me to get him to trust me enough because i need this man to give me
18:01information can you tell me about um what you've been doing all day i've been home all day okay
18:11well you have a living girlfriend or wife what's her name fanny camera when was the last time you spoke
18:19to fanny uh friday even i think it was my trade oh that was two days ago i'm thinking no no way fanny
18:33hadn't been out in that field since friday those injuries were fresh well i hate to be the bearer of
18:40bad news but fanny is deceased hi
18:45several i tell that girl many times i said fanny you know you ain't got no business in after you
18:52said that somebody's gonna hurt you from another lady he tried to project that her lifestyle may have
18:59led to her death you didn't seem too concerned though that one put me through a lot of stuff
19:06i'm dead tonight fanny was a terrible one the c bond is telling me his story of how he was a victim
19:16we're conducting a search warrant on your house right now okay we noticed there was some blood in there
19:22can you explain that
19:29i don't know if we had that little tunnel in the hallway i was able to get him to tell me about the
19:36tussle but he constantly wanted to minimize his involvement in this what happened after that was
19:42home i don't know if she left as long as he was talking to me i was happy i sat with that man for over
19:49three hours and i just wanted him talking because i knew rob was back at that apartment and i knew he
19:56was getting a better story it's a lot of blood dude this happened in here had to have everything
20:08pointed to that being the crime scene but i wanted to find the murder weapon how do you get it downstairs
20:13man there's only one way right you got it out of this place he's like 74 years old
20:23there's blood on this mattress
20:27now this room leads to the room
20:30i had blood on the floor here too it forms a trail leading up the stairs
20:39this is not the typical homicide case this is more of a puzzle like an onion everything's kind of
20:43starts on peeling
20:49we found a peppermint it's on the roof and i'm like oh my god it's just like light bulb
21:00based on i guess the angle of the roof where his truck's parked the fact there's no blood going
21:04in the main staircase i mean he got a sheet from the house rolled her up rolled her off the roof
21:09and that was it that's my theory
21:20then
21:24they knife with a serrated edge with blood on it
21:28at that point we were pretty confident we found the murder weapon which is great that's rare
21:40chuck's ready to go i'll have a gatorade on the sideline and i'm going to come in fresh
21:44i can kind of go at him with actual physical evidence
21:46so uh what's his last story so i know where i'm going with this he says they got to a fight she
21:54left he hasn't seen her said okay we have a lot of evidence now to support that tom did this but
22:00when we don't have is tom confessing i needed that for me to be able to make that arrest i needed him
22:08to admit to it we searched the house and we found a lot of things to house that
22:16contradict what you said
22:19we found the knife you have wounds in your hand that are basically indicative of that type of
22:25struggle conflict we found blood into adjoining room that lead to the roof
22:30that we don't have we don't have your story tommy
22:34we don't have the truth i'm screaming inside just say it just say it just say that you did this
22:41you can see him processing what i'm telling him there were no adamant like denials he's
22:45he's thinking how can i respond to this what do i say what happened last night
22:52think about it it could have been so traumatic it's kind of cloudy for you you want to give you
22:58a second to think about it we'll come back in let him smoke a cigarette dude get his mind straight
23:15boom we'll go in again i'll say as long as you want to go we'll go at him
23:19i think in that moment where we stepped out his mind's probably racing
23:27you're not going to interrupt that pause you're not going to interrupt that silence
23:30it's on your chest i know you thought about it let's talk about last night is
23:46he going to lawyer up or is he going to come off
24:0318 hours into the investigation it's intense it's an intense feeling and i'm watching this man
24:10and in my head it's just loudly saying come on man just tell the truth we were talking
24:19about while we were drinking
24:23we kept on arguing but i can't figure out how a knife came up in this issue here
24:32did she have it first or what happened i think that's what happened okay then what happened tommy
24:37it was very important that they found that knife because it was a crucial piece that rob could use
24:51to break down c bond's lies and what happened i guess she had she had got cut where'd she get cut
25:00out in the chest after we had scuffed with that knife she wouldn't sit in that background
25:11i had went inside and sat down and got into it again
25:20at what point did she pass away she went to the end of that porch or something
25:25not really laid down there i had went back inside but when i come back again and she wasn't moving
25:32did you put her in something but there was i'm trying to take what that sheet i thought
25:39we had a lot of evidence suggesting that tom did this but it's so much stronger when someone
25:44admits to doing something so we put our body on the truck
25:47how'd you get it down right off the roof in my truck
25:55back it up and get a roller and that one over my business
26:00that that was amazing because we had our theory and then he filled those gaps in with a statement
26:05i got my truck and left one brother and dropped off and what happened then i left one all back home
26:13so i mopped it for a little blood and went on bed in the bed went to sleep
26:19you know these girls don't threaten me so much i'd be scared to be around
26:25it's the way it's best for one of us to go down
26:27i'll sit tight one second and we'll be right back he tried to make it a self-defense kind of thing
26:35but there were no tears i didn't see any sympathy and sorrow remorse and just like this is what happened
26:45i didn't have sympathy for shivon and i saw how many times she was stabbed how violently
26:50my sympathy was with danielle when i found out that time confessed i cried because now who can you trust
27:02someone you spend half of your life with can be the person that take your life
27:07c-bon gibson is charged with second degree murder and obstruction of justice i felt good but the work
27:15wasn't done at this point there's still a huge step that has to take place and anything can happen to try
27:31we had the murder weapon we had dna evidence where the victim's blood was found in his residence
27:37and i felt like that would have quite an effect on the jury but there was a very real issue we were
27:42having to battle the defense wanted to exclude the evidence initially when rob hopped the fence he
27:48didn't have a warrant it was a locked fence which meant that you couldn't just go in
27:56when you're a criminal defense lawyer someone's life is on the line i believe that law enforcement
28:02in this case illegally entered into the property you need probable cause so i filed the motion to
28:08suppress evidence so we set a hearing date if the judge granted the defense's motion we as the
28:16prosecutors would not have been allowed to use any of the evidence found within mr gibson's home
28:23that would have been the end of the case
28:28eight months after c bond's arrest testimony begins at his hearing
28:33we argued that the stairwell is technically a common area of the department complex
28:40so since robber didn't enter the home of the defendant there was no fourth amendment violation
28:47the judge agrees we were definitely relieved that the physical evidence was ruled admissible
28:54unfortunately it didn't go our way for this case i knew we had challenges but i had a plan for each
29:00one i knew there was going to be an argument for self-defense and so i definitely wanted to try and
29:06explore the violent nature of their relationship first because i knew there was something more to the case
29:15she had previously attacked mr gibson two months before the actual incident took place here we have
29:22a violent offense from miss campbell as the perpetrator to mr gibson as the victim mr gibson been attacked
29:29she hit mr gibson over the head with a hammer she would have these moments of violence and explosive
29:36behavior mr gibson was a victim but this time mr gibson fought back the worst case scenario is that the jury
29:44is going to feel for the defendant the jury was going to see mr gibson as a victim and miss campbell as an
29:52aggressor and find mr gibson innocent
29:55i felt confident heading into trial because i felt as though the jury would sympathize with mr gibson he
30:13was in his mid-70s and he previously attacked him with a hammer we had a very viable self-defense claim
30:25a year after fanny's death a jury will hear the case against c bond gibson this was my first murder trial
30:33and it was nerve-wracking the stakes feel higher because i wanted to get justice for danielle
30:40my nerves was rattling i was queasy because i didn't know that i was going to be that close
30:47to time after opening arguments it was very clear that the defense was going to try to paint
30:54miss campbell as a very violent aggressor the case was essentially going to be an attack on fanny but
31:01she wasn't going to be able to give her side of the story so we definitely needed to call somebody to
31:05humanize our victim and so we wanted to do that with danielle i wanted the jurors to see my mother as an
31:17individual not an aggressor not a drug user but as a human being she was a beautiful grandmother
31:29and a wonderful mother to me i feel like me telling my mom's story was her speaking for herself
31:40miss campbell had her own demons that she was battling throughout her life
31:42but that doesn't take away from the fact that she was the victim here
31:48i really wanted to show the jury that the way that fanny was treated it was so heinous and so brutal
31:56the medical examiner was able to show just how much damage fanny suffered but on cross-examination
32:05i questioned the medical examiner about victim's toxicology there was evidence that suggested that
32:11fanny had cocaine in her system and also alcohol we were concerned and a jury would hear this
32:18information and assume she's actually the violent aggressor and mr gibson is the victim it was either
32:24him or her and he tried to survive it definitely did go into the defense's theory that this isn't the
32:31first time she had a pending case for aggravated battery in which she bond gibson was the victim
32:36there was no way around it we had to face it head on i have here the original gist from the
32:44incident and this really just says that c bond gibson was the victim and that fanny campbell hit him
32:51in the head with a hammer but it actually says here in the report that she says mr gibson struck her in
32:58the face with a closed fist and that's when she retrieved the hammer just to break the window to try and
33:02unlock the door so even though fanny was the one who got arrested it probably should have been c bond
33:09it's always great when you can take the defense's evidence and use it to your own advantage
33:13it certainly took some sting out of our theory but i don't think the jury got that
33:21on the second day of trial we were able to play the taped interview that the detectives did with mr
33:27gibson what's interesting is that the prosecution and the defense are going to see it from two very
33:32different angles but i can't figure out how a knife came within this issue did she have it first or
33:39what happened i think that's what happened obviously he doesn't want to tell us he just killed this
33:44woman in cold blood or whatever well now he's painted himself into a self-defense story so he's got to
33:49come up with an idea to make that seem sensible you know i do believe that he was telling the truth
33:54here and he was justified in doing what he did he comes off very credible sort of that grandpa nature
34:03of him how do you go to sleep after that dude like just nonchalant you go mop the blood up and i
34:18went to sleep i think it shows the callus of it you've been with this woman 30 years rolls her off
34:24the roof goes and hides the body and comes back and just like in his own words go on about my business
34:30yeah that's cold man it is that is so cold it is storytelling
34:39there was such a tumultuous relationship between the two of them there's a powder keg ready to blow
34:44he lays it out there enough to where it aligns with the self-defense justification defense
34:50we felt confident that we had enough to plant a lot of doubt in the jury's mind for that murder
34:58charge it was really worrisome because there's a risk of a hung jury but even if they found that he
35:05was justified in killing her he definitely wasn't justified in moving her body throwing it off the
35:10roof and dumping it in that field he had to clean it up before they catch me so i gotta dot my eyes and
35:19cross my t's he missed a couple of eyes and didn't get all the t's the evidence was so strong in this
35:27case for obstruction there was no way a jury could not agree with that i remember the prosecutor turning
35:35to me saying what are you going to do about the obstruction charge and i remember just looking at
35:40him being like i have something something we as the prosecution had to be able to face head on and
35:46prepare for the defense attempted to use an intoxication defense claiming that mr gibson didn't
35:52understand the nature of his actions in louisiana there's a justification defense of intoxication
36:01but the issue with using that fence was that i had no evidence of it
36:07there weren't any drug screens or blood tests taken when mr gibson was apprehended
36:11so what i knew was going to come down to mr gibson's testimony we had to call mr gibson to the stand
36:18but anytime your client takes the stand it's high risk
36:32day two of c bond gibson's trial i was surprised to see mr gibson take the stand because he did seem like an
36:40unpredictable witness everything he says everything he doesn't say how he says it is going to be weighed
36:50significantly by the jury but i didn't have anything else in order to try and defend him from the charge of
36:56obstruction of justice so in order to get that evidence of intoxication out the only thing i had
37:01is mr gibson's memory
37:05it was beneficial to the defense case that as he walked to take the stand you could see that this
37:12was an elderly man and it is certainly a difficult argument to make that this is in fact a cold-blooded
37:18killer so i asked mr gibson were you intoxicated were you drunk at that time says i was feeling pretty
37:25good i had drank enough to not know really what i'm doing then i asked him but when you realized that
37:30she had passed did you know what to do he said no i've never been into nothing like that i don't know
37:36nothing i was crazy myself i didn't know which way to go up or down he was acting delirious
37:43like he didn't know like he was incompetent he played pity the fool the defendant definitely created
37:52a perception of someone who didn't understand what was going on if they were successful with
37:57the intoxication defense we knew that he would be acquitted and so it created another hurdle for us
38:05but on the other hand we were thrilled to be able to question mr gibson because we get to question
38:10one of his past to kind of flip that narrative and show that it was in fact mr gibson that had
38:16this pattern in his history we went and got those old police reports from the 90s and found out that
38:21once again this is another domestic situation where he attempted to kill someone else that he was in a
38:26relationship with he has a prior conviction for attempted murder you actually say are you defending
38:31yourself or did you just try and kill that woman he says i wasn't trying to kill nobody and then you
38:37said why did you plead guilty to attempted murder and again he says he doesn't even remember right
38:43which is kind of like his theme throughout everything is if i don't remember it it didn't it didn't really
38:47happen the prosecutor opened all wounds that reveals the real c bond gibson you paint this she devil over
38:59here but look at you you won't get away this time but it was a tale of two stories and which
39:06story is the jury going to believe
39:15waiting for a verdict is gut-wrenching time kind of stands still i was getting shot when my anxiety
39:22levels were brought through the roof and i prayed i said god i just want justice
39:27after seven hours of deliberation they were at a standstill all 12 members of the jury believed
39:38that mr gibson was guilty of something there were no votes for not guilty but they could not come to a
39:43decision between murder and manslaughter so ultimately that led to a hung jury you know
39:51i couldn't understand it i couldn't grasp it because the evidence is right that clear as they
40:00but then the jury delivers their verdict on the second charge
40:07they found him guilty as charged of the obstruction which carried up to 40 years
40:11but the judge could have handed down a sentence of zero years and that would have been perfectly fine
40:17under the law i do remember the judge addressing the defendant
40:25he said you had no remorse for her her daughter or her grandchild so i have no remorse
40:35for how i'm going to sentence you he ended up giving mr gibson 27 years this is basically a life sentence
40:52and yet c bond could still be retried for murder we had the option of either bringing the case back
40:59back to trial or resolving it with some type of plea agreement i didn't want to drag myself and my son
41:06through that pain so i took it i took the plea deal to give fame to peace i finally could breed again
41:16i got justice
41:17i got justice
41:25domestic violence it has no gender has no race don't be afraid to reach out speak in behalf of fanny elaine gamble
41:36we were able to give her some dignity her life mattered i think we did right by fanny
41:47this is where fanny from right here nine years after the trial if i want to come and feel fanny this
41:55is the spot where i come to right here on this corner right here from eastwell my mom was a wildflower
42:02she just had her way with people everybody knows fanny in this neighborhood hey honey
42:08pops and everybody want to take a picture with her come in miss fanny how you doing miss fanny
42:15whatever she got to say on her mind it's going to come out and this is fanny getting down a happy
42:21soul the charisma and as you can see it is her character that's her character that's how she lived
42:27her life i still to this day can people ask me about fanny i miss her so much that's my fanny boo
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