Steve Dupuie speaks with Dr. Bob Thiel about rising tensions between Europe and Russia — and what Bible prophecy says about the future of this conflict.
Dr. Thiel analyzes recent comments by Serbian President Aleksandar Vučić, who warned of a growing certainty of war between Europe and Russia. Are nations like Germany, Poland, Finland, Romania, and Russia preparing for an inevitable conflict? And more importantly — does the Bible predict this war?
Drawing from Daniel 11, Jeremiah 50, Isaiah 13, Isaiah 47, Ezekiel 32, and other key passages, Dr. Thiel discusses:
🔹 The rise of the European King of the North
🔹 The Eurasian alliance led by Russia
🔹 How nations from the east and the north will trouble Europe
🔹 Why a future war is prophesied but still years away
🔹 The role of nations such as Iran, Belarus, Ukraine, China, Japan, and Korea
🔹 How the “daughter of Babylon” (end-time Europe) faces destruction from a northern power
Dr. Thiel also explains why Russia is not the King of the North, despite popular misconceptions, and references insights from the late Herbert W. Armstrong.
📘 Free eBook Mentioned: Lost Tribes and Prophecies — available at ccog.org
🌐 Visit: BibleNewsProphecy.net for articles, audio messages, and additional interviews.
#BibleProphecy #EuropeAndRussia #EndTimeProphecy #Daniel11 #Jeremiah50 #Isaiah13 #RussiaInProphecy #KingOfTheNorth #EurasianAlliance #BibleNewsProphecy #DrBobThiel #BiblicalAnalysis #ProphecyUpdate
Dr. Thiel analyzes recent comments by Serbian President Aleksandar Vučić, who warned of a growing certainty of war between Europe and Russia. Are nations like Germany, Poland, Finland, Romania, and Russia preparing for an inevitable conflict? And more importantly — does the Bible predict this war?
Drawing from Daniel 11, Jeremiah 50, Isaiah 13, Isaiah 47, Ezekiel 32, and other key passages, Dr. Thiel discusses:
🔹 The rise of the European King of the North
🔹 The Eurasian alliance led by Russia
🔹 How nations from the east and the north will trouble Europe
🔹 Why a future war is prophesied but still years away
🔹 The role of nations such as Iran, Belarus, Ukraine, China, Japan, and Korea
🔹 How the “daughter of Babylon” (end-time Europe) faces destruction from a northern power
Dr. Thiel also explains why Russia is not the King of the North, despite popular misconceptions, and references insights from the late Herbert W. Armstrong.
📘 Free eBook Mentioned: Lost Tribes and Prophecies — available at ccog.org
🌐 Visit: BibleNewsProphecy.net for articles, audio messages, and additional interviews.
#BibleProphecy #EuropeAndRussia #EndTimeProphecy #Daniel11 #Jeremiah50 #Isaiah13 #RussiaInProphecy #KingOfTheNorth #EurasianAlliance #BibleNewsProphecy #DrBobThiel #BiblicalAnalysis #ProphecyUpdate
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00:00Greetings, friends. This is Steve Dupuy for the Bible News Prophecy Program with Dr. Bob Thiel,
00:09bringing you news and analysis of world events in light of Bible prophecy. Dr. Thiel,
00:16are the European nations in Russia going to go to war against each other?
00:21Yes. Now, interestingly, this week, RT posted an article related to comments made by the Serbian
00:29President Alexander Vucic. And here's what he said. My conclusion is that there's a growing
00:36certainty that a war between Europe and Russia will happen. They're preparing for war, or for
00:42defense, as they call it. Romania, Poland, Finland, smaller countries too, and the Russians as well.
00:50Everyone is preparing. What can come from that? Only conflict. Then he added that Serbia itself
00:57is caught, quote, between a rock and a hard place, and therefore must strengthen its own
01:00military readiness. Now, Serbia has ties with Russia, as well as with the European Union, which it
01:07wants to be a member of, but it so far hasn't been. Well, anyway, that said, yes, to quote the Serbian
01:14president, a war between Europe and Russia will happen, end quote. Are there any verses from the
01:22Bible that support your statement? Yeah, the Bible shows that Russia is going to lead a future
01:28massive Eurasian alliance militarily. The alliance that also has a connection to Armageddon.
01:35Now, over in Europe right now, you've got Germany. And this week, it was announced that the German armed
01:40forces, the Buddhist war, are doing well and getting better all the time because they're preparing for
01:46something as well. Now, if a war comes between the two, who's going to win? Well, we looked at the
01:52Bible to find this out. I'd like to start the book of Daniel. It talks about the rise of a coming
01:58European beast power that it calls the King of the North. Now, in Daniel chapter 11, verse 39,
02:05he's shown to defeat the power with the strongest fortresses. That would be the United States of America
02:11and the British and his allies currently. Then he defeats a power from the Middle East and North
02:17Africa called the King of the South. Then he's got issues. So I want to read a few verses in Daniel 11,
02:25starting verse 40. At the time of the end, the King of the South shall attack him and the King of the
02:32North will come against him like a whirlwind. And anyway, he ends up winning, according to the Bible.
02:38Now, verse 44, but news from the East and the North shall trouble him. Therefore, he'll go out
02:45with great fury to destroy and annihilate many. And he shall plant the tents of his palace between the
02:51seas and the glorious holy mountain. Yet he shall come to his end and no one will help him, end quote.
03:00Could you add a little clarity to those verses for us?
03:02Yes. At the time of the end, this European King of the North empire is going to overwhelm
03:10basically what's going to be an Islamic empire. But then something rises up that bothers him from
03:17the East and the North. And this would be referring to Russia and other Eurasian nations, because Russia
03:24is really the only northern power, major power that's north of Europe. And of course, pretty much all of
03:32Asia is east of Europe. And the Book of Daniel shows that they're going to help cause the King of
03:38the North to come to his end. Now, I want to add that the end is not yet. It's not a current plan of
03:44Russia's, by the way. And that war is at least seven years away.
03:46Well, isn't Russia the King of the North?
03:51No, a lot of people think that, including the late Hal Lindsey. But no, it doesn't make sense.
03:59Now, the Bible shows that Russia, Iran, and maybe Serbia, and some others are going to
04:06unite. In the Book of Ezekiel, chapter 32, it talks about Elam and all her multitude. And that,
04:14again, would seem to include Iranians and maybe some Serbians. And then verse 26, it talks about
04:21Meshach and Tubal and all their multitudes. This is Russia and its allies. And they're going to cause
04:30terror. And this terror is going to affect the European King of the North. Now, the late Church of
04:37God leader, Herman W. Armstrong, taught that the 17th chapter of Revelation defined a
04:44lady, the daughter of ancient Babylon described. In the 47th chapter of Isaiah, verse 11, it says,
04:51desolation shall come upon her suddenly, but she won't know. And that desolation, that thing,
04:58is this newly revived Europe that is coming up. And the desolation comes from Russia.
05:03Then he cites Jeremiah 50, verses 1 to 3. It says, the word that the Eternal spoke against Babylon,
05:13the land of Chaldeans by Jeremiah the prophet. Declare among the nations and publish it.
05:20Babylon is taken. Meridoc is broken into pieces. Her idols are confounded. Image is broken in pieces.
05:27For out of the north, there comes up a nation against her. Now, this is against Babylon.
05:34This is speaking of the country is finally coming against what you call Catholic Europe.
05:38And Russia is in the north and there are the south. Out of the north comes up a nation against her.
05:45So Babylon is basically the area of Roman Catholic Europe, which is led by the King of the North.
05:51And it is this European empire that goes to war with the power from the far north.
05:57Are there any other verses in the Bible that support this?
06:02Well, yes. Well, I cited Jeremiah 50 from Herod of Armstrong, the first couple of verses.
06:12But you say in that chapter, for example, let's go down to verse 41.
06:17Verse 41, we read, behold, a people shall come from the north, a great nation and many kings.
06:24So it's not just one country.
06:26Shall be raised from the ends of the earth.
06:30OK, so all the way to the far east.
06:34And I suspect perhaps maybe even from South Africa, maybe from South America,
06:38because those would be the ends of the earth as well.
06:40They shall take hold of the bow and the lance.
06:43They are cruel and shall not show mercy.
06:47Their voice shall roar like the sea.
06:51They shall ride on horses, set in array like a man for the battle.
06:57OK, now against who?
06:59Bible says against you, oh, daughter of Babylon.
07:03So it's the daughter of Babylon.
07:04It's not ancient Babylon.
07:07It's a descendant of Babylon.
07:09And verse 43, the king of Babylon.
07:14Now, by the way, I think this is the same person the Bible calls the king of the north.
07:17We just read about him.
07:19The king of Babylon has heard the report about them.
07:23And his hands grow feeble.
07:27Anguish has taken hold of him.
07:29Pangs as of a woman in childbirth.
07:33OK, so that's what the Bible says.
07:35Anyway, Russia is the leading power of the north.
07:37And we see that the coming European empire is the daughter of Babylon.
07:42And it's going to be destroyed by this Russian-led force that cooperates with nations from the ends of the earth, like nations in the east.
07:52Could you give us an idea of the names of some of these nations in the east?
07:56Well, I mentioned Iran.
08:00I also believe at least parts of Ukraine.
08:04And I do think, by the way, Ukraine is going to have European cooperation for a while.
08:08But because of other prophecies regarding the people of the Medes, I think at least part of Ukraine will ultimately turn against Europe and support Russia.
08:18Then you've got countries like Belarus, and they're also kind of basically Russian-Orthodox in terms of religion.
08:28And so I think they're going to get together.
08:30I mentioned Serbia.
08:31And I do think parts of Asia, all the way like China, Korea, and even Japan will be involved.
08:42Now, I want to go back to Jeremiah 50.
08:45I'm going to read a couple other verses, this time starting in verse 8.
08:49The north country being Russia, and the assembly that's going to put other nations in basically a confederation.
09:16Confederation, and they shall array themselves against her.
09:22From there, she shall be captured.
09:26Who?
09:27The daughter of Babylon.
09:29Their arrows should be like those of an expert warrior, and none shall return in vain.
09:35I think they're going to be successful.
09:38Now, I want to go to the book of Isaiah.
09:41Let's people think, oh, that's the only one, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, the only ones that are talking about this.
09:46Well, I'd also quote a Daniel.
09:49It's good Isaiah.
09:50Isaiah chapter 13.
09:52And by the way, I've mostly been reading from the New King James Version of the Bible, mainly because it uses more or less modern American English.
09:59Anyway, Isaiah, the prophet, chapter 13, starting in verse 1, wrote,
10:07The burden against Babylon, which Isaiah, the son of Amos, saw.
10:15Lift up a banner on the high mountain.
10:17Raise your voice to them.
10:20Wave your hand, that they may enter the gates of the nobles.
10:25I've commanded your sanctified ones.
10:27I've called my mighty ones for my anger.
10:31Those who rejoice in my exultation.
10:33The noise of the multitude in the mountains, like that of many peoples.
10:38A tumultuous noise of the kingdoms of nations gathered together.
10:44The Lord of hosts musters the army for battle.
10:48They come from a far country, from the end of heaven.
10:51The Lord and his weapons of indignation to destroy the whole land.
10:56Wail, for the day of the Lord is at hand.
10:58It will come as destruction from the Almighty.
11:03Therefore, all hands will be limp.
11:05Every man's heart will moult.
11:07They will be afraid.
11:09Pangs and sorrows will take hold of them.
11:11Remember, I read about pangs as a woman in childbirth from Jeremiah.
11:17We're talking about the same incident.
11:22Oh, it even says in the next verse, I've heard of it.
11:24They will be in pain as a woman in childbirth.
11:26Okay, I should have read that one before I went back there.
11:28They will be amazed with one another.
11:32Their faces will be like flames.
11:35So, we see an account in both Jeremiah and Isaiah, talking about the same invaders.
11:48This is referring to an end-time confederation.
11:51They've got some distance to travel.
11:54It's apparently a type of union of powers from the east, including Russia, who's also a major power from the north.
12:00Now, I mentioned prophecies about the Medes, and I didn't read them.
12:05But we have a free e-book that's available called Lost Tribes and Prophecies.
12:11And this goes into more depth about other prophecies that involve, let's say I mentioned the Russians,
12:17and the Medes, which include, I think, not only the Russians, but some in Belarus and some in Ukraine.
12:24As long-time listeners of our broadcast may be aware, we said, by the way, years ago, I think back in 2013,
12:36that at least parts of Ukraine were going to end up supporting Russia.
12:40And the next year, 2014, you got Crimea.
12:44Now, irrespective of what the president of Ukraine thinks, some parts of Ukraine are going to support Russia, if not all of it.
12:55Anyway, having said that, this book goes into more depth, has more prophecies about that.
13:04And so people can learn more about what's going to happen in terms of also Armageddon and the various woes in the Bible.
13:09Again, it's free at ccog.org.
13:12It's a free e-book.
13:14Now, I also want to read one other passage from Isaiah.
13:20This also talks about, ties in with this far country.
13:26Isaiah 46, verse 11.
13:29Calling a bird of prey from the east.
13:31And remember, Russia is east of Europe.
13:35Matter of fact, Russia is the most east you can be.
13:39What do you mean by that?
13:40You've got parts of Russia that go so far east, they had to change the date line because it would be in the west.
13:47Okay.
13:48Anyway, calling a bird of prey from the east.
13:51The man who executes my counsel from a far country.
13:55Indeed, I've spoken it.
13:56I'll bring it to pass.
13:57I purpose it.
13:58I'll also do it.
13:59So it's going to happen.
14:00So, yes, the president of Serbia is right.
14:02War will occur between Russia and Europe.
14:05And despite preparations, Europe is going to be defeated.
14:10Thank you, Dr. Thiel.
14:11For more interviews with Dr. Thiel, in addition to written, as well as audio articles,
14:15visit our website at BibleNewsProphecy.net.
14:18This is Steve Dupuis for the Bible News Prophecy Program.
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