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00:00:00Hello and welcome to Your Questions Answered.

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00:00:06I'm Adam Wilborn, joined by Michael Hanfleet and Michael Sidgwick,

00:00:08here to answer your burning wrestling questions.

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00:00:32I said that, John Byrne and Sidgwick,

00:00:34here to answer your burning wrestling questions

00:00:37after a very quiet wrestling weekend, of course.

00:00:40And we'll start straight away by tackling a question

00:00:44from one half of the guys who handle the...

00:00:47Dada.

00:00:48Thank you for the ladies' night game on AEW Dynamite.

00:00:52Jose Palomares, who...

00:00:54Well, actually, Jose asked us a question about the whole situation.

00:00:57Ezra Pertains.

00:00:58Indeed, with the walkout on AEW Collision.

00:01:02So before we get his question about where we go from here,

00:01:05what did you make of all the furore over the weekend?

00:01:08There's a nice five minutes of tweets on it.

00:01:10A nice five minutes on Twitter to read the various piss takes

00:01:14and a little bit of, ooh, something interesting

00:01:16finally happened in 2025.

00:01:19Thank Christ for that.

00:01:20I've got five minutes worth it on this Doomscroll Slop app.

00:01:25Funny for me, what you're thinking, I tell you what.

00:01:29And this, Ezra Pertains,

00:01:31it pertains to both of you and your SmackDown coverage.

00:01:34Less facetiously, they need to study

00:01:37what WWE does to people's brains.

00:01:39And I know that sounds like a very me take.

00:01:41I know that sounds overtly cynical.

00:01:44I am deadly f***ing serious.

00:01:47What, what does this promotion do to people's brains

00:01:51where they have convinced, like, loads and loads of fans

00:01:57and so many talents

00:02:01that it's the absolute be-all and end-all.

00:02:04If we look at you for longer than five seconds, right?

00:02:10We look at you for longer than five seconds.

00:02:13If we position you on the lowest part of the card,

00:02:17if you're lucky to get a bloody bit of TV time at all, right?

00:02:23They suddenly get this inflated ego of,

00:02:26I was looked at once by the great WWE.

00:02:29I was booked once by the great WWE.

00:02:32I, therefore, am this absolutely enormous superstar

00:02:38who you should be grateful to have

00:02:41on your lesser-rated B-level programming.

00:02:46It's crazy.

00:02:48It's one thing, right, if you are Roman Reigns.

00:02:53Let's go, like, let's go down the tier here.

00:02:55You're Roman Reigns and you are pumped up

00:02:57pretty much day one.

00:02:59You walk onto that main roster in this.

00:03:01They actually do a push.

00:03:03It's incredible.

00:03:04I love it, the shield.

00:03:07And then the fact that that's even happening is one thing.

00:03:11And if you're Roman Reigns

00:03:12and you've been told it's a vehicle for your singles run

00:03:16and we are grooming you,

00:03:18so here's the expectation.

00:03:21You're going to be the model pro.

00:03:23You're going to get flattered in all of these matches.

00:03:26This is a vehicle for you.

00:03:27You are going to be the next John Cena.

00:03:31We are going to persist with your push

00:03:33in complete defiance of a toxic weekly backlash

00:03:39that will go on for years and years.

00:03:41That's how much we see in you.

00:03:44That's fair enough, probably.

00:03:46And I think I remember reading, and correct me if I'm wrong,

00:03:49that when there was talk of AEW coming of various wrestlers,

00:03:57you know, like the Revival, Luke Harper, Ty Dillinger,

00:04:01they were like, oh, well, we're doing nothing here.

00:04:03So can we go there?

00:04:06No.

00:04:07No, absolutely not.

00:04:09Eventually, well, Ty Dillinger did.

00:04:11And God bless the dearly departed,

00:04:14rest in peace, Brodie Lee,

00:04:15because he was like, oh, I'll do a bit of that.

00:04:17And then he tried to do the exact same thing

00:04:19and they just went, no.

00:04:20It's like, well, why not?

00:04:22What?

00:04:23Dillinger was allowed to go.

00:04:25I read that, and again, this is very dim.

00:04:28I haven't researched it.

00:04:29I'm just talking off the top of my head,

00:04:31but I'm convinced that I remember reading that AJ Styles,

00:04:36who they wanted alongside the club to do this sort of early,

00:04:40oh, well, where the Bullet Club real quiz,

00:04:43you know, who's got ownership over who changed it really,

00:04:46and da-da-da-da-da.

00:04:46And then AJ was like, oh, well, I'll talk to AEW

00:04:49because you know why.

00:04:51The second that I talked to AEW,

00:04:53would you like an extra several six-figures sum?

00:04:57Yes, please.

00:04:58Thank you for doing business, WWE.

00:05:01And I remember reading that a lot,

00:05:05if not the majority of WWE guys,

00:05:07sounded out AEW at the time,

00:05:10if for no other reason than to go,

00:05:13than to like spook WWE into giving them more money.

00:05:16And in fact, that's what they should all be doing

00:05:18if they're not already doing it now.

00:05:21Oh, my contract's up in the air.

00:05:23You know, it's tapping up or whatever,

00:05:25but I'm going to talk to the other side

00:05:27just to gauge interest.

00:05:28And I don't do that.

00:05:29We want you, certainly a lot more now, actually.

00:05:32Here's this much money.

00:05:33Re-signed with us.

00:05:34Wonderful.

00:05:35It's leveraged.

00:05:36I remember reading that Roman Reigns

00:05:38was like the one guy who was out.

00:05:39I'm not even going to talk to them.

00:05:41That's not happening.

00:05:42It's not realistic.

00:05:43But pay me just in case, you know,

00:05:45and they did or whatever.

00:05:47That's fine.

00:05:47If you are like a Seth Rollins,

00:05:50i.e. the marketeer,

00:05:51I don't get it, but whatever.

00:05:55It's borderline narcissism.

00:05:58If you are a Miro or an Alistair Black,

00:06:02better half get it.

00:06:03Alistair Black,

00:06:042020 Royal Rumble,

00:06:06it was a choice between him

00:06:08and Drew McIntyre.

00:06:09It went down to the wire.

00:06:11Paul Heyman was,

00:06:12we've got to go with Alistair Black.

00:06:13We've got to go with Alistair Black.

00:06:15If you're Alistair Black,

00:06:16and you know,

00:06:17the general consensus is,

00:06:18talks a load of rubbish,

00:06:19sometimes great in the ring,

00:06:21supernatural wrestling nonsense,

00:06:23love his entrance and his look,

00:06:25laughing stock in some circles.

00:06:27But if you're Alistair Black,

00:06:28I can vaguely,

00:06:30vaguely grasp why you would be,

00:06:33why are you the way that you are?

00:06:35Oh, it's because I was,

00:06:35you know,

00:06:36I was the second choice,

00:06:37days away from Royal Rumble

00:06:39of like headlining WrestleMania

00:06:40and maybe I can go back to those days.

00:06:42That's fine.

00:06:43If you're Rusev and you know,

00:06:46you just want to be a WWE guy,

00:06:48you can go on like that.

00:06:50If you are Tegan Nox,

00:06:53right,

00:06:54lucky to get on speed,

00:06:56lucky to get on main event

00:06:58and you are walking into a collision taping,

00:07:02having been bounced out of WWE,

00:07:06right?

00:07:07Because they don't want you no more.

00:07:09They see nothing in you.

00:07:10You didn't get over there really.

00:07:12And they do not want your services

00:07:15because they don't think you're good enough.

00:07:19Should that not be a sort of a humbling,

00:07:22a little lesson in humility of,

00:07:24all right,

00:07:24okay,

00:07:25well I'll do what drew,

00:07:26McIntyre did

00:07:27and grind and work

00:07:29and receive every opportunity gratefully

00:07:31and go on

00:07:32and develop my reputation

00:07:33and I will say

00:07:35it's harder than ever to do that

00:07:37because you either do it in AEW

00:07:39or unless you are so good

00:07:42and you've proven yourself such a draw

00:07:44in very,

00:07:46very,

00:07:46very hostile,

00:07:48barren lands

00:07:49like TNA

00:07:50and you're Mike Santana,

00:07:52that's the closest you're going to get.

00:07:54So I half understand why you'd go,

00:07:57ah, well,

00:07:58it's going to be,

00:07:59it sounds a lot like hard work.

00:08:01I can instead just be entitled to it.

00:08:02Instead,

00:08:04it's like you're Nixon Newell.

00:08:05You know,

00:08:06you had a lot of promise about eight years ago.

00:08:08There are WWE fans right now

00:08:10in buildings

00:08:12who,

00:08:13earlier this year,

00:08:14I'm convinced didn't even know who Rusev was

00:08:16when he turned up on the war after WrestleMania,

00:08:18was it?

00:08:18To a pretty subdued reaction.

00:08:23Burst your own bubble.

00:08:25Get in touch with the real world.

00:08:27I know you're a wrestler.

00:08:28I know it's difficult.

00:08:30Survey the landscape.

00:08:31Get a brain in your head.

00:08:32Get some humility in your heart.

00:08:33If you actually want to do this,

00:08:35which I'm not convinced she does,

00:08:36which is another thing.

00:08:38But my God,

00:08:39what does WWE do to these people's brains?

00:08:41It's staggering to me,

00:08:43this story.

00:08:44It's hilarious.

00:08:46It's,

00:08:46you know,

00:08:46and you know,

00:08:47usual caveats.

00:08:48We don't know every side of the story,

00:08:50even though it's a completely

00:08:51multi-sourced story

00:08:54from a very reputable outlet.

00:08:56In what?

00:08:56Fightful Select as well?

00:08:58Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:08:58I mean, come on.

00:08:59It's funny,

00:09:02the situation to me.

00:09:03It's funny.

00:09:04But it's an indictment of pro wrestling

00:09:06that Nixon Newell has dominated

00:09:07the discourse this weekend.

00:09:09Ridge Holland has dominated

00:09:10the discourse earlier in this year.

00:09:11Karrion Kross did.

00:09:13R-Truth did.

00:09:14What a boring, boring, boring year

00:09:16for professional wrestling this is.

00:09:18Sarah Stock.

00:09:20Yeah, proudly.

00:09:21Don't disagree with that.

00:09:22I've read,

00:09:23I saw it today

00:09:24when,

00:09:25so like Andy Murray filters out

00:09:27like the news stories

00:09:27for us to aggregate

00:09:28and I read

00:09:29two long form pieces.

00:09:31It was like the,

00:09:32I guess there's something

00:09:33close to the original report

00:09:34with added stuff

00:09:35from multiple sources

00:09:36from like various wrestlers

00:09:37and then a long statement

00:09:39from Nixon Newell.

00:09:40On Twitch, yeah.

00:09:41Yeah.

00:09:42And it was great

00:09:42because it was just,

00:09:45there's the truth

00:09:46in front of you.

00:09:47You've just got to discern

00:09:48which bits are the specifics

00:09:49because it was like

00:09:51going out to the,

00:09:53like two of your mates

00:09:54have fallen out

00:09:55and you go to the pub

00:09:57on consecutive nights

00:09:58and you hear

00:09:59the same story

00:10:00but told completely

00:10:02from opposite sides.

00:10:04So like one story is.

00:10:06I've had that with a divorce

00:10:06with people close to me.

00:10:08Like it's,

00:10:09it's wild.

00:10:10It's like,

00:10:10I think I've got an idea.

00:10:12Yeah.

00:10:13Like there's an age old

00:10:14wrestler story

00:10:15on one side of,

00:10:17not in that,

00:10:18go off yourself

00:10:19or a various version of that.

00:10:21and then like a story

00:10:24as told through the lens

00:10:25of the wrestler

00:10:26that was in it.

00:10:26So we have,

00:10:27you know,

00:10:27like you've got to give her

00:10:28the opportunity to say,

00:10:30well, no,

00:10:30this is exactly how it played out.

00:10:32I was in that moment

00:10:33and this is how I lived it.

00:10:34But like every conversation is,

00:10:36yeah,

00:10:37I'm not happy to do this,

00:10:38but if we don't,

00:10:38that's fine,

00:10:38we'll just,

00:10:39we'll just head off.

00:10:40Well,

00:10:40we'll probably just beat the traffic.

00:10:41Like, yeah,

00:10:41I mean,

00:10:42if she wants to do that,

00:10:42we can,

00:10:43but like we think it'd be better

00:10:44if this happened

00:10:45and like da, da, da.

00:10:46And I honestly,

00:10:47when people tell,

00:10:48recount those stories,

00:10:49I'm like kind of willing to believe

00:10:50they think that's how it played out

00:10:52in contrast to the other version

00:10:54of the story

00:10:54from a bunch of separate wrestlers.

00:10:55I'm Hulk Hogan, bitch.

00:10:57Yeah, basically.

00:10:58I'm coming in

00:10:59to save the territory.

00:11:00So it's reasonable

00:11:01to assume the truth

00:11:02is somewhere in the middle

00:11:03and some of the politeness

00:11:04will be true,

00:11:05but some of the,

00:11:06sorry,

00:11:06what was that thing

00:11:07that she said

00:11:07as a quote?

00:11:09I'm Hulk Hogan, bitch,

00:11:10and I'm coming in

00:11:11with a big star power.

00:11:14She's Welsh.

00:11:15Yeah.

00:11:15I'm Hulk Hogan, bitch.

00:11:19And Hulkamania

00:11:22is running wild.

00:11:24I don't know.

00:11:25It's a bit wild.

00:11:26It's a bit wild.

00:11:27Tegan Nox said,

00:11:27I am.

00:11:28Bye, Tegan.

00:11:30Yeah.

00:11:31It's the truth there

00:11:33in the middle somewhere.

00:11:33Yeah.

00:11:34Between that

00:11:35and everybody being really nice

00:11:37to one of them.

00:11:38It's funny

00:11:39that you can get those two

00:11:41versions of it

00:11:42because, you know,

00:11:44whenever a story like this

00:11:45hits in pro wrestling

00:11:46and with a handful

00:11:47like how are the two

00:11:47so radically different

00:11:49it's almost scary

00:11:50in terms of how

00:11:52the human mind

00:11:53computes things

00:11:54for itself

00:11:55to make itself

00:11:55feel better.

00:11:57What are we doing?

00:11:58How do we even coexist

00:11:59in such a world

00:11:59where we all have

00:12:00such radically different

00:12:01perceptions of reality?

00:12:03You know, like,

00:12:04you know how the

00:12:05all-time best of everything

00:12:06in this decade

00:12:06is brought out?

00:12:07Yeah.

00:12:07That's why we reference it

00:12:08so much.

00:12:09It's the all-time best

00:12:09of everything.

00:12:10And like,

00:12:12I remember that

00:12:13somebody made

00:12:14a South Park clip.

00:12:15So you've got like

00:12:16either,

00:12:17either,

00:12:18right,

00:12:18this unbelievable

00:12:20fight in which

00:12:21the Young Bucks

00:12:22super kick a door

00:12:22on Larry's head

00:12:23or like a situation

00:12:25that has gotten

00:12:25out of control.

00:12:27Kenny Omega

00:12:28is like Superman

00:12:29into,

00:12:29to like lift the dog

00:12:31to give me.

00:12:31Give me a hero,

00:12:32baby.

00:12:32It was being bitten

00:12:33by,

00:12:34what's his name?

00:12:34Yeah.

00:12:35You can take

00:12:37my breath away.

00:12:39So I just love that

00:12:40side of the story

00:12:41because it's like,

00:12:41well,

00:12:41you think about this

00:12:42is like the Young Bucks

00:12:43were like really hostile

00:12:44and wanting to kick ass.

00:12:46And then they're like,

00:12:46oh,

00:12:47that's so tough

00:12:48that they go down

00:12:49and kick the door in.

00:12:51But like,

00:12:52Kenny Omega's a nice guy.

00:12:54I love that.

00:12:55I love that.

00:12:56There's someone going,

00:12:56oh, Kenny,

00:12:57you're bleeding, mate.

00:12:57Oh, yeah,

00:12:58I got bitten.

00:12:59Oh,

00:12:59at the end of the day,

00:12:59here's a dog.

00:13:01It's a man.

00:13:02It's a person.

00:13:02This dog's fine.

00:13:03But the thing is,

00:13:04Kenny Omega came in

00:13:06and he saved the dog's life

00:13:09because he's the ultimate hero

00:13:11in the story.

00:13:13Well,

00:13:13Jose says,

00:13:15Kenny used the twist.

00:13:17There was no dog.

00:13:20Funny,

00:13:21isn't it?

00:13:22Jose says,

00:13:23would you guys be interested

00:13:24in a tag match,

00:13:25basically,

00:13:26between the two teams,

00:13:26the team,

00:13:27the Knicks and Niels team

00:13:28or the team that replaced them?

00:13:29He has something,

00:13:29right?

00:13:30He has something.

00:13:31I mean,

00:13:32realistically,

00:13:33I couldn't care less.

00:13:34But let's talk about principles,

00:13:36okay?

00:13:36In terms of this match,

00:13:38I think I would,

00:13:39I'd watch it

00:13:41if they just decided

00:13:42to do it right.

00:13:43But I was listening

00:13:44to the flagship.

00:13:46This is a,

00:13:47it's a Voices of Wrestling's

00:13:49flagship podcast.

00:13:51Flogship podcast.

00:13:54It was,

00:13:56it wasn't recently,

00:13:58even though,

00:13:59I think my memory

00:14:00of this podcast

00:14:00has been triggered by it

00:14:01because Ridge Holland,

00:14:02obviously has been

00:14:03in the news

00:14:03with the whole da-da-da-da-da-da.

00:14:05But it was a while ago

00:14:06and the hosts

00:14:09were talking about

00:14:10the big E injury

00:14:11and they pitched,

00:14:16you know what,

00:14:17if you're up to me,

00:14:19get him in.

00:14:20Benoit 95,

00:14:21that bitch.

00:14:22Is it 94,

00:14:2395,

00:14:23the sabu?

00:14:24Yeah,

00:14:2494.

00:14:2594.

00:14:26Yeah.

00:14:26And then he just comes out

00:14:27next week and goes,

00:14:28I'll do it again.

00:14:30Yeah.

00:14:30I'll do it again.

00:14:33And then he just comes in

00:14:35and goes,

00:14:35I'll injure all of your favorites

00:14:36and I will do it

00:14:38because I like it

00:14:40and because,

00:14:41look at him,

00:14:42he ain't wrestling again.

00:14:44I can hurt people.

00:14:46I can earn money doing this.

00:14:48Do I care what you think of me?

00:14:50No.

00:14:50And then he goes on this big spree

00:14:51and that stuck with me

00:14:53of like,

00:14:54oh yeah,

00:14:54wrestling is scared of the heat

00:14:55in some ways.

00:14:56Everything has mutated

00:14:58into this like big

00:14:59epic shades of grace

00:15:01cinematic love story

00:15:02and like everyone is afraid

00:15:05of capitalizing on real heat.

00:15:09It's a matter of principle

00:15:10in terms of

00:15:11just a bit,

00:15:12something a little bit disruptive

00:15:14like because the idea would be

00:15:16nowadays,

00:15:17oh,

00:15:17we've got loads of talent

00:15:18who can put on loads

00:15:18of great matches

00:15:19and play nicely

00:15:20in our pre-ordained storylines.

00:15:23You don't reward

00:15:24and you know,

00:15:25wrestling's bad

00:15:26when it's so blandly competent

00:15:27because no,

00:15:28you shouldn't reward that.

00:15:29You shouldn't put them

00:15:30on Dynamite this week.

00:15:31Yes,

00:15:31it is serving a niche audience.

00:15:33So this,

00:15:34it's too niche.

00:15:35No one would care.

00:15:36No one would care.

00:15:38But if this happened

00:15:39in like,

00:15:40I don't know,

00:15:41say,

00:15:42you know,

00:15:43who's someone

00:15:43who's got a name?

00:15:46What an agent?

00:15:46Andrade.

00:15:47Okay.

00:15:49He comes,

00:15:51say,

00:15:51hypothetical situation,

00:15:53it's kind of available

00:15:54or he's not,

00:15:55comes in,

00:15:57it's like,

00:15:57I finally,

00:15:58like this sort of impasse

00:16:00has been broken.

00:16:01You come in,

00:16:02I would like you to do a job

00:16:03for Kenny Omega.

00:16:04Nah,

00:16:05nah,

00:16:05I'm not doing that.

00:16:06I was in WWE

00:16:07like two months ago.

00:16:10I've kind of got a bit

00:16:11of notoriety.

00:16:12You know,

00:16:12people want

00:16:13to see me.

00:16:15I think it would behoove

00:16:17my brand

00:16:17if I was to beat

00:16:18Kenny Omega

00:16:19and Tony Khan's like,

00:16:20well,

00:16:20you remember the Don Callis family?

00:16:22You're kind of mid-tier,

00:16:25that's stable.

00:16:27You're doing a job

00:16:28to Kenny Omega.

00:16:30Nope.

00:16:30And then that filters out.

00:16:32Yeah.

00:16:32If he can then be convinced,

00:16:34you know what,

00:16:35well,

00:16:37I'm back in the news.

00:16:38Yeah,

00:16:38I will do a job.

00:16:39I'd do that match

00:16:39in a heartbeat.

00:16:41There's nothing like that

00:16:42in wrestling these days.

00:16:43So I don't want to see that match.

00:16:44I'm with Hamflat,

00:16:45it balls the tits off me.

00:16:47But if something happened

00:16:48with a name

00:16:48that I actually care about,

00:16:49go nuts.

00:16:51Hi to LostGreg52.

00:16:53We've taken most of these questions

00:16:54from X,

00:16:55but obviously,

00:16:55as Hamflat has mentioned before,

00:16:57he's not on X,

00:16:57he's on Cameo.

00:16:58And Greg sent this message to you.

00:17:00Cameo Corner.

00:17:01Cameo Corner.

00:17:02Where'd I?

00:17:03Everybody saying

00:17:05on a real,

00:17:06in a real,

00:17:07in a real,

00:17:08in a real,

00:17:09in a real,

00:17:10in a real,

00:17:11in a real,

00:17:12in a real,

00:17:13the reasons that of the judgment day

00:17:14only defending the tag titles

00:17:16twice in 150 days

00:17:17or whatever it was,

00:17:18should the mandatory 30-day

00:17:20defense clause come back?

00:17:21When did it go?

00:17:22Was it go away?

00:17:23Was it down to part-time Brock?

00:17:25So I actually tried to track

00:17:27a specific moment.

00:17:28Ernie Wedge.

00:17:29They abandoned it,

00:17:30yeah.

00:17:30And that was the sad,

00:17:31saddest bit of how

00:17:32because there was a certain,

00:17:34there was like a few select title reigns

00:17:35that I thought,

00:17:36oh,

00:17:36it could have been there

00:17:36because there was a champion

00:17:37that was injured

00:17:38or whatever.

00:17:39But that was the first problem.

00:17:41They never officially abandoned it.

00:17:44And that's a wrestling thing

00:17:45because you get to sort of

00:17:46make up your

00:17:47kayfabe rules

00:17:48as and when you need them.

00:17:51So there was,

00:17:52the Brock Lesnar one

00:17:52is a great example

00:17:53because we used to kind of,

00:17:56as a sort of

00:17:57a wrestling fan community,

00:17:58think of Brock Lesnar

00:17:59as a total mercenary

00:18:00in his universal title reign

00:18:03and then Roman Reigns

00:18:05would have like

00:18:05everybody throwing up the wands

00:18:06as like the kind of

00:18:07top babyface

00:18:08who also happens to be

00:18:08the top heel.

00:18:09He defended the title

00:18:09less than that mercenary

00:18:10Brock Lesnar.

00:18:11So like the game

00:18:12completely changed

00:18:13along the way somewhere.

00:18:14And in defense of both of them

00:18:16as characters,

00:18:18this was also in the era

00:18:19where the less you were there,

00:18:20the more over you were

00:18:21because it was churn proof.

00:18:22And in terms of the actual character,

00:18:23if Brock plays along

00:18:25and defends that title

00:18:26within the alligators

00:18:28and get that specific

00:18:29strain of heat.

00:18:30He loses it, yeah.

00:18:30And Roman's this like almost...

00:18:32You need to resent Brock,

00:18:33that Brock for it to have worked.

00:18:34Roman was almost like

00:18:35a celebrity that

00:18:36would occasionally

00:18:37choose to wrestle.

00:18:38So again,

00:18:38there was sort of like

00:18:39a narrative reason

00:18:41why I guess it could work

00:18:41and then occasionally like

00:18:42because of their association

00:18:43with Paul Heyman

00:18:44who always somehow

00:18:46seemed to have an element,

00:18:48like in fiction,

00:18:49had like an element of power.

00:18:50It was as if he'd like

00:18:51drawn up a clever contract

00:18:52in which the 30-day rule

00:18:53was weird.

00:18:54But nobody ever said that out loud.

00:18:55And certainly this year

00:18:56we've seen

00:18:57with the likes of the tag belts

00:18:58and there's been prior times

00:19:00in Triple H's run alone

00:19:01where it's been,

00:19:02you know,

00:19:02for a guy that is like,

00:19:04Sid likes the phrase

00:19:04like blandly competent,

00:19:06this is a real blind spot of his

00:19:08because champions

00:19:09you just go missing

00:19:10for ages

00:19:10and then he remembers

00:19:11and they defend the belts

00:19:12or whatever.

00:19:14It's...

00:19:14We don't talk about restrictions

00:19:15as much with WWE

00:19:16as much as we do with AEW

00:19:18because AEW started

00:19:19with losing them

00:19:20and then we kind of

00:19:21watched them all fall away.

00:19:23Triple H,

00:19:23brought a few back

00:19:25as it pertains to

00:19:26what he fancied

00:19:27when he took over

00:19:28from Vince McMahon.

00:19:29I've missed this one

00:19:30dearly.

00:19:31Like,

00:19:31it doesn't take much

00:19:33to either adhere to it

00:19:34or

00:19:35come up with a

00:19:36kayfabe reason

00:19:36why a champion doesn't

00:19:37and then use that for heat

00:19:38or use that for

00:19:39like a baby face

00:19:41that gets injured

00:19:41and then can't keep the title

00:19:42can be

00:19:43so heartbreakingly effective.

00:19:45Devastatingly effective.

00:19:45I still remember

00:19:45Vatih's driving it

00:19:46and you're like,

00:19:46oh,

00:19:47not this way.

00:19:47Devastatingly effective.

00:19:48Yeah.

00:19:48Like,

00:19:49so that's great.

00:19:49A heel that is

00:19:51being a coward

00:19:51or has,

00:19:52yeah,

00:19:53found a loophole

00:19:54where it's over 60 days

00:19:55after he's not

00:19:55checked the fine print

00:19:56on your contract.

00:19:57Yeah.

00:19:57Like,

00:19:57brilliant.

00:19:58You little bastard.

00:20:00Like,

00:20:00a nice little

00:20:02narrative restriction

00:20:03that would benefit

00:20:04the show.

00:20:05This is a good example

00:20:05of a WWE one.

00:20:07They should bring it back.

00:20:07I'm in favor of rules

00:20:09and like creativity

00:20:12being dictated

00:20:14by a framework

00:20:15so you're forced

00:20:16to really think

00:20:17about what you're doing

00:20:18otherwise things

00:20:19just become meaningless.

00:20:20I will say

00:20:21it's character specific

00:20:22that Lesnar characters

00:20:24that you just said

00:20:24doesn't work

00:20:25with that specific

00:20:26kind of like

00:20:26mercenary heat work

00:20:28and people who care

00:20:29about WWE

00:20:30if he's like

00:20:31kind of a good boy.

00:20:32It's hard to defend

00:20:33this title.

00:20:33He has to hold it hostage

00:20:35if you like

00:20:35for you to want

00:20:36a baby face

00:20:37to dethrone him.

00:20:39It has to be fluid though.

00:20:40I remember

00:20:41I was really invested

00:20:43in the Fed

00:20:44and Hamflit knows this

00:20:45in 2012.

00:20:47It was just a year

00:20:48that struck me

00:20:49for whatever reason

00:20:50and towards

00:20:53like that era

00:20:54as well

00:20:54before

00:20:55just

00:20:55massacre

00:20:57Daniel Bryan

00:20:58and I was

00:20:59you know

00:21:00really upset.

00:21:02That might be a new

00:21:03character coming soon.

00:21:04We were workshopping

00:21:05him downstairs

00:21:06and then

00:21:07so I believe

00:21:08it was in late 2012

00:21:11where

00:21:12CM Punk

00:21:14jawed his knee

00:21:15and this was

00:21:16the whole

00:21:17what did it end up

00:21:19being 434 days

00:21:21this rain

00:21:21and I was thinking

00:21:22he's walking out

00:21:23like a shoot

00:21:23Orange Cassidy

00:21:24at various points

00:21:25because they were

00:21:25getting him with

00:21:26the Ryback and that

00:21:27and I was like

00:21:27oh the Ryback

00:21:28and I was like

00:21:29oh no

00:21:30you can't strip the belt

00:21:31when we know

00:21:32what they're going for

00:21:32this made up

00:21:33record that

00:21:34was impressive

00:21:35in my head

00:21:36as a big CM Punk

00:21:37mark

00:21:37it was very important

00:21:38to me that he got it

00:21:39I can't remember

00:21:40the ins and outs

00:21:42of that whole circumstance

00:21:43but he took some time

00:21:45off didn't he

00:21:46or at least didn't wrestle

00:21:47for a while

00:21:47and maybe he missed

00:21:48that window

00:21:49and if it was like

00:21:51such a firm

00:21:52and hard rule

00:21:53and he'd like

00:21:55win it back

00:21:55or whatever

00:21:56as soon as he was ready

00:21:57that wouldn't have

00:21:58worked for that character

00:21:59and that story

00:22:00so yeah

00:22:01basically what I'm saying

00:22:02is 95 times out of 100

00:22:03stick to it

00:22:04but you've got to

00:22:05leave yourself

00:22:05the wiggle room

00:22:06why I would like it now

00:22:07is because

00:22:08it's the closest

00:22:09as WWE has been

00:22:11to the era

00:22:12when it was most enforced

00:22:13which was boring

00:22:14boring

00:22:14Jack Tunney

00:22:15in his office

00:22:15like Alderson

00:22:17that's the most

00:22:18I've ever felt like you

00:22:19what's that

00:22:20just Jack Tunney

00:22:21with his

00:22:21framework

00:22:22and his order

00:22:24and his values

00:22:24for all of their

00:22:25many many faults

00:22:26as characters

00:22:27you could picture

00:22:28the two GMs

00:22:30going like

00:22:31yeah well

00:22:31there's a 30 day rule

00:22:32around here

00:22:33you know that

00:22:33you should have

00:22:34adhered to that

00:22:34they've had these jobs

00:22:36for ages now

00:22:36they're not

00:22:37they're not

00:22:37chopping and changing

00:22:38GMs all the time

00:22:39you couldn't do it

00:22:40now

00:22:41nobody was going to

00:22:42listen to Brad Nadix

00:22:43no

00:22:44like

00:22:45Vicky Guerrero

00:22:46might have done it

00:22:46strictly to benefit

00:22:48an edge or something

00:22:48but like

00:22:49this is the time

00:22:50where you probably could

00:22:50they should get

00:22:50a headmaster

00:22:51vibes guy

00:22:52like Jack Tunney

00:22:53because he looked like

00:22:54such a stern

00:22:55boring old man

00:22:57that whenever Tunney

00:22:57would appear on my

00:22:58Silver Vision videos

00:23:00my Coliseum videos

00:23:02it would feel like

00:23:04bloody hell

00:23:05we were told

00:23:06a snake had been

00:23:06de-venomized

00:23:07by the lab

00:23:08okay

00:23:09yeah

00:23:10I believed everything

00:23:11he said

00:23:12and when a wrestler

00:23:13ran afoul of Jack Tunney

00:23:15I thought they've

00:23:15taken it too far

00:23:16look they've got

00:23:16the old boring

00:23:17headmaster guy

00:23:18who's really serious

00:23:20and

00:23:20loved him

00:23:21even like

00:23:21the wrestlers

00:23:22and the commentators

00:23:22don't want him around

00:23:23oh god Tunney's

00:23:24yeah

00:23:24well

00:23:27the father

00:23:28turned that like

00:23:29that boring priest

00:23:30yeah

00:23:30you get trapped

00:23:31in conversation

00:23:31I chat with Tunney

00:23:33oh god Tunney's

00:23:34on my ass

00:23:35oh my god

00:23:37oh Tunney's

00:23:38on my ass

00:23:39he's got a real

00:23:39hard arm for me

00:23:40I've got a question

00:23:43here from

00:23:44Matt Raines

00:23:46who says

00:23:47I have a question

00:23:48that's often the

00:23:48brunt of a joke

00:23:49but right now

00:23:49makes all the sense

00:23:50in the world

00:23:50what the hell

00:23:51happened to this

00:23:52be as news

00:23:53Sidgis tweet about

00:23:54the three most

00:23:55talked about wrestlers

00:23:56this year

00:23:56really hit the nail

00:23:57on the head

00:23:57Nixon Newell

00:23:58R-Truth

00:23:58Karrion Kross

00:23:59what are we doing

00:24:01how way the lads

00:24:03well

00:24:04I heard about this tweet

00:24:06yep

00:24:07I had a little moment

00:24:08in the office

00:24:08I don't think you

00:24:09know any better

00:24:10if you do

00:24:10you're dead to me

00:24:11if you do

00:24:12I've never loved you

00:24:13more bestie

00:24:13there are two spellings

00:24:15of how way or how way

00:24:16the lads

00:24:17depending on the team

00:24:18that you support

00:24:19soccer tangent

00:24:22the Sunderland spelling

00:24:24which is

00:24:25the correct one

00:24:27the wrong one

00:24:28is

00:24:29ha

00:24:30apostrophe

00:24:31way

00:24:32the lads

00:24:34the correct one

00:24:35the good one

00:24:35is

00:24:37Newcastle's

00:24:38which is

00:24:38how way

00:24:39the lads

00:24:40who

00:24:41are

00:24:42where are you

00:24:43sorry I've got

00:24:44seven years

00:24:45I have to talk like this

00:24:46so it's

00:24:48how way

00:24:49the lads

00:24:50for future reference

00:24:51but thank you for the question

00:24:51it's excellent

00:24:52here's my take on it

00:24:54Triple H

00:24:57is literally

00:24:58the most boring

00:24:59slow bastard

00:25:00who's ever been involved

00:25:02in professional wrestling

00:25:03ever

00:25:04at least in my lifetime

00:25:05can't speak for Dory Funk Jr

00:25:07and the rest of the

00:25:09you know

00:25:09people work in Massachusetts

00:25:11in the 1940s

00:25:12but in my

00:25:13life

00:25:14Triple H

00:25:15is the slowest

00:25:16most boring

00:25:17bastard

00:25:18ever

00:25:19it comes

00:25:19there's no shock

00:25:20to me

00:25:20whatsoever

00:25:21that is

00:25:22blandly competent

00:25:23overly long

00:25:24safe

00:25:26stayed

00:25:27unambitious

00:25:28storylines

00:25:29are

00:25:30you know

00:25:30as bad

00:25:31and as uninspiring

00:25:33and as

00:25:33uncreative

00:25:34as they are

00:25:35a thought struck me

00:25:36when I saw your question

00:25:37Matt

00:25:37what would

00:25:39Triple H

00:25:40say like

00:25:42god forbid

00:25:43there ain't

00:25:44what if like

00:25:45covid 2

00:25:46happens

00:25:47right

00:25:48and it's just

00:25:49another new virus

00:25:50knocking about

00:25:51and it's all lockdown city

00:25:52and we have to do

00:25:53empty arena wrestling shows

00:25:54what would Triple H's

00:25:56fed look like

00:25:56I mean we saw what

00:25:58his NXT looked like

00:25:59yeah I know

00:25:59like absolutely

00:26:01hideous

00:26:02no imagination

00:26:03to it whatsoever

00:26:04like Vince's

00:26:05pandemic fed

00:26:06was nightmarish

00:26:07but it gave you

00:26:09something to mock

00:26:09and laugh at

00:26:10you're not poking

00:26:11somebody's eye out

00:26:12with a corner

00:26:12of a steel stick

00:26:13you know what I mean

00:26:13that is

00:26:14not happening

00:26:14it gives you something

00:26:16it's so relentlessly

00:26:17bad but also

00:26:18there are ideas

00:26:19there you cannot

00:26:20deny that aspect

00:26:22and now we head

00:26:23to the swamp

00:26:23indeed

00:26:24what does Triple H's

00:26:26look like

00:26:27it doesn't bear

00:26:27thinking about

00:26:28that tweet will

00:26:29always stick with me

00:26:30I can't even remember

00:26:30who posted it

00:26:31it was a picture

00:26:32of a Punjabi prison

00:26:33it was an on this day

00:26:34or whatever

00:26:34and someone tweeted

00:26:36Triple H's mind

00:26:37can't come up

00:26:37with this stuff

00:26:38and I was like

00:26:39you know what

00:26:39I get it

00:26:41people like it

00:26:41the stories make sense

00:26:43the characters

00:26:43are more realistic

00:26:44like whatever

00:26:45like Triple H

00:26:46will never come up

00:26:47with like

00:26:48just a wacky

00:26:49bold idea

00:26:49like that

00:26:50as long as he lives

00:26:51he is so boring

00:26:52so that accounts

00:26:53for a lot of the problem

00:26:54it truly does

00:26:55Triple H is a boring

00:26:56slow bastard

00:26:57right

00:26:57on the flip side

00:26:59of that

00:26:59AEW is the cause

00:27:01and solution

00:27:02to all of US

00:27:03wrestling's problems

00:27:04and just to elaborate

00:27:05briefly

00:27:05because I would like

00:27:06to hear Hamlet's

00:27:07take on this

00:27:07not for him

00:27:08he likes wrestling

00:27:09right now

00:27:09is that

00:27:11AEW

00:27:12on a weekly basis

00:27:15so often

00:27:16and so frequently

00:27:17satisfied

00:27:18the need

00:27:20that has existed

00:27:21since at least

00:27:222001

00:27:23of

00:27:23I could not just do

00:27:24wrestling

00:27:25good

00:27:25that isn't

00:27:26sports entertainment

00:27:27and then he had it

00:27:28in ROH

00:27:29little pockets of TNA

00:27:30here and there

00:27:31PWG

00:27:32and then when ROH

00:27:33got a little bit

00:27:34robot-y

00:27:35and Davey Edwards

00:27:36and Eddie Edwards

00:27:38robot-y

00:27:38Kia's New Japan

00:27:40amazing

00:27:41that appetite

00:27:43no longer exists

00:27:44AEW has completely

00:27:46satisfied the market

00:27:47demand for that

00:27:48for better or worse

00:27:49better

00:27:50because

00:27:51at its peak

00:27:52it's my favourite

00:27:53promotion possibly

00:27:53ever

00:27:54but

00:27:55we're all spoiled

00:27:57by it now

00:27:57I think

00:27:58to varying degrees

00:27:59even if people

00:27:59don't want to

00:28:00bring themselves

00:28:00to admit it

00:28:01it's evident

00:28:02in the ticket sales

00:28:03and the ratings

00:28:04and the noises

00:28:04in the buildings

00:28:05we're all full

00:28:06it's okay

00:28:07to admit it

00:28:08you need the copium

00:28:08in your life

00:28:10I don't necessarily

00:28:11go with it

00:28:13but at the same time

00:28:15because it's done

00:28:17such a great job

00:28:19too good if anything

00:28:19of satisfying

00:28:20that need

00:28:21I think

00:28:22it becomes

00:28:23the be all

00:28:23and end all

00:28:24because that need

00:28:25that itch has been

00:28:26scratched

00:28:26so you don't get

00:28:27a PWG

00:28:28and ROH

00:28:29or

00:28:29an expanded

00:28:32into the US

00:28:32New Japan

00:28:33you don't have

00:28:33anything like that

00:28:34so because

00:28:35AEW

00:28:37has removed

00:28:39any and all

00:28:40USPs

00:28:41from the indies

00:28:42and we are

00:28:42recording this

00:28:43the Monday

00:28:44after the weekend

00:28:45news of

00:28:46Deadlock Pro

00:28:47potentially shuttering

00:28:48for good

00:28:48like

00:28:50because

00:28:50it feels

00:28:51at times

00:28:52like the be all

00:28:52and end all

00:28:53like

00:28:54I would like

00:28:55to know

00:28:55what AEW

00:28:56how it would be

00:28:57received

00:28:58if there was

00:28:58kind of a thriving

00:28:59hotbed

00:29:00of an indie

00:29:01style wrestling

00:29:01elsewhere in the

00:29:02States

00:29:03which by the way

00:29:04I think

00:29:04AEW

00:29:04would just

00:29:05gobble up

00:29:05and like

00:29:06have as

00:29:07its other

00:29:07new thing

00:29:08because they've

00:29:09got their ears

00:29:09to the ground

00:29:10and they go

00:29:11for that sort

00:29:11of wrestling

00:29:12loving

00:29:12discerning

00:29:13hardcore

00:29:14fan

00:29:14which is

00:29:15another

00:29:15conversation

00:29:16I don't

00:29:16think anything

00:29:17can grow

00:29:17with AEW

00:29:18in place

00:29:19right now

00:29:20because they

00:29:20would just

00:29:20gobble it

00:29:21up

00:29:21remember

00:29:21when like

00:29:22PWG's

00:29:23lucha doors

00:29:24were getting

00:29:24a little

00:29:24oh no

00:29:24we love

00:29:25them

00:29:25yeah

00:29:25you know

00:29:26it's

00:29:26so with

00:29:28AEW

00:29:28because they've

00:29:29kind of

00:29:30greedily

00:29:30taken over

00:29:31everything

00:29:31for themselves

00:29:32as this kind

00:29:33of like

00:29:33custodian of

00:29:34the hardcore

00:29:34wrestling fan

00:29:35if you like

00:29:35it is

00:29:37positioned itself

00:29:38as the be all

00:29:39and end all

00:29:39and because

00:29:40sometimes it's

00:29:41pretty flat and

00:29:41uninspiring

00:29:42we are in it

00:29:43now post

00:29:44all in Texas

00:29:45I feel like

00:29:46I feel like it

00:29:46is almost

00:29:47I'm very

00:29:49guilty of

00:29:49just scrutinizing

00:29:50it to death

00:29:51expecting the

00:29:52highest standards

00:29:52possible because

00:29:53you did it

00:29:53I mean you

00:29:54didn't want to

00:29:55kill New Japan

00:29:56as a concern

00:29:57for stateside

00:29:58fans but

00:29:59you did

00:30:00through no

00:30:01fault of your

00:30:01own not a

00:30:02deliberate

00:30:02hatchet job but

00:30:03that was kind

00:30:04of always going

00:30:04to happen

00:30:05there's no need

00:30:06for an ROH

00:30:07anymore because

00:30:08while they got

00:30:08good matches

00:30:09you do them

00:30:09every week

00:30:10in bigger

00:30:11flashier

00:30:12buildings

00:30:13and I think

00:30:15AEW's existence

00:30:16was the

00:30:16problem and

00:30:17cause of and

00:30:18solution to the

00:30:19problems in

00:30:21US wrestling

00:30:21and now you

00:30:23don't have any

00:30:24problems you don't

00:30:24have any solutions

00:30:25you got AEW

00:30:25liking a lump

00:30:26but some weeks

00:30:27it's crap and

00:30:27wrestling feels

00:30:28dead

00:30:28New Japan is

00:30:31still feeling

00:30:33the effects of

00:30:34what ultimately

00:30:35became a very

00:30:36excessive approach

00:30:37where those 20

00:30:38minute Tanahashi

00:30:39matches became

00:30:4030 minute

00:30:40Okada matches

00:30:42become

00:30:4235 minute

00:30:44matches because

00:30:45failing to heed

00:30:47the lessons of

00:30:47the Kings

00:30:48Road more

00:30:49has to be

00:30:50more more

00:30:51counters more

00:30:51head drops

00:30:52now it's the

00:30:55worst style to

00:30:56do for that

00:30:57long because

00:30:58I am so full

00:30:59of New Japan

00:31:00like so full

00:31:01and it's been

00:31:02five years

00:31:04after they

00:31:05strapped up

00:31:05evil and that

00:31:06was the defining

00:31:07image of all

00:31:07that's finished

00:31:08yeah good job

00:31:09yeah good job

00:31:10AEW's doing a

00:31:11good job in this

00:31:11pandemic because

00:31:12New Japan is

00:31:13formally finished

00:31:13and now when I

00:31:14see a you know

00:31:16a Yota Tsuji

00:31:1620 minute main

00:31:18event it can only

00:31:19feel oh that was

00:31:20really good it can

00:31:21never reach those

00:31:22heights of like

00:31:22Okada Tanahashi

00:31:23Naito Nakamura

00:31:25Omega like ZSJ

00:31:27Osprey Shingo it's

00:31:29like it's just not

00:31:29as good and because

00:31:31there's so many

00:31:32years of great New

00:31:33Japan product and

00:31:34it still feels and

00:31:36looks like the

00:31:37resurgence era I

00:31:38just can't get into

00:31:39it the booking has

00:31:40its own problems

00:31:40like it has that

00:31:42sort of where so

00:31:43over it's it's so

00:31:44back where so over

00:31:45cycle of like oh

00:31:47they do a good

00:31:48show then House of

00:31:49Torture run amok

00:31:49three weeks later and

00:31:50I just know well

00:31:51that's not for me I'm

00:31:52not going to watch

00:31:53it CMLL has had an

00:31:54unbelievable year at

00:31:55the box office putting

00:31:57forth several match

00:31:58of the year contenders

00:31:59and I'm weighing up

00:32:01whether to put a

00:32:01CMLL match at the

00:32:02top of my match of

00:32:03the year list so I

00:32:05don't want to like

00:32:05just do this whole big

00:32:06sweeping everything's

00:32:07broken evidently it's

00:32:09not commercially and

00:32:11critically CMLL having

00:32:13it a wonderful year

00:32:14and people loving

00:32:15Ceri's work there's

00:32:16good there's good

00:32:17stuff out there but

00:32:18yeah I think through

00:32:21almost no fault of

00:32:22its own this all of

00:32:24just sort of bludgeoned

00:32:25through the wrestling

00:32:25landscape with this

00:32:27sort of well

00:32:27intentioned like

00:32:29clumsiness almost

00:32:31AEW is not

00:32:34blameless at all and

00:32:35Triple H is really

00:32:36really dull

00:32:37speaking that's my

00:32:39twice favorite book

00:32:40ever speaking of

00:32:41the like the North

00:32:43American mainstream

00:32:44because it's the scene

00:32:44I can speak best to

00:32:45historically there was

00:32:47always the and it was

00:32:48framed as an excuse

00:32:49sometimes but I think

00:32:50it's true as well I

00:32:51think both things can

00:32:51be true there was

00:32:52always this idea that

00:32:53like the brazen

00:32:53cyclical career like

00:32:55that was often a way to

00:32:57excuse some bad

00:32:58booking or some bad

00:32:59houses but what's

00:33:00true and what is

00:33:01cyclical is that

00:33:03wrestling historically

00:33:05we're in it now fails

00:33:07to acknowledge

00:33:09something that you

00:33:10instill in your kids

00:33:11from the youngest age

00:33:12which is that actions

00:33:13have consequences so

00:33:14whatever a boom period

00:33:16brings for any form

00:33:18of like North American

00:33:19mainstream wrestling

00:33:20there will be

00:33:21consequences to those

00:33:22actions and this

00:33:23probably you can like

00:33:25all American wrestling

00:33:26starts in 1985 but

00:33:29no like Vince McMahon

00:33:30taking over the

00:33:31territories I like the

00:33:3184 thing I was like

00:33:33even then I don't even

00:33:34really want to watch

00:33:3586 to be honest but

00:33:36yeah Wrestlemania is

00:33:37like the death of the

00:33:40territories in as much

00:33:42as Vince McMahon is a

00:33:43total bastard about how

00:33:44he does it is like in

00:33:47hindsight something that

00:33:48feels inevitable it's

00:33:50just that he does it in

00:33:51the most deadliest and

00:33:52cruelest and fastest but

00:33:53that is itself a model

00:33:55that is going to

00:33:56eventually kind of eat

00:33:57itself you know this

00:33:58idea that like a

00:34:00wrestler could continue

00:34:01to well got over over

00:34:03there and now we're going

00:34:03over there to get over

00:34:04again channel 106 and

00:34:06little cock Arkansas has

00:34:07been the home of little

00:34:08cock wrestling for 80

00:34:10years and it will be the

00:34:11home forever welcome to

00:34:12cable bitch you hear a

00:34:13bunch yeah you're a bunch

00:34:14of people that say like

00:34:16as soon as like cable

00:34:17little cock wrestling has

00:34:18got a proud lineage

00:34:19little cock and tiny

00:34:20balls championship here

00:34:21will be defended we of

00:34:23course had a

00:34:24I mean that's an

00:34:25antique yeah we had a

00:34:26sad lad on our house I

00:34:27could watch six wrestling

00:34:28shows on a Saturday and

00:34:29it's like right well I was

00:34:30going to kill it then

00:34:30because you said the

00:34:31guy that you've just

00:34:32seen that like that

00:34:33required that have these

00:34:34very very like narrow like

00:34:35these walled gardens

00:34:36yes that was gonna go

00:34:37and Vincent Mann just did

00:34:38it in like the meanest

00:34:39and capitalistic way

00:34:40possible but you know so

00:34:41that happens and when the

00:34:44sort of you get to the

00:34:45early 90s and all of a

00:34:47sudden everybody's kind

00:34:48of bored of this one size

00:34:50fits all mainstream pro

00:34:51wrestling thing and in the

00:34:52meantime the closest

00:34:53competitor in WCW

00:34:55thought copy that like

00:34:57you've got nothing you've

00:34:59got absolutely nothing

00:34:59hence a boom dies

00:35:01wrestling falls from the

00:35:02mainstream and for all

00:35:03intents and purposes a

00:35:04bunch of people just

00:35:04think our wrestling's

00:35:05finished like because it

00:35:06disappeared from view

00:35:07like a lot of people

00:35:08would just believe like

00:35:09when did that wrestling

00:35:10get going like 98 or

00:35:11something yeah that's

00:35:12just how people view it

00:35:13they're not in this

00:35:14bubble that we're in

00:35:14right likewise uh the

00:35:1690s like Monday Night

00:35:17Wars boom the same thing

00:35:18again you get crash TV

00:35:20you get this constant

00:35:21thirst for like like can

00:35:22you top this and it's

00:35:23insane and it's destined

00:35:25to put one or the other

00:35:26out well I guess Triple H

00:35:27is going to get a cock out

00:35:29on Raw I want to watch

00:35:30Nitro because you're

00:35:31probably going to see

00:35:31Triple H's cock in about

00:35:32three minutes after some

00:35:34words from our sponsors

00:35:35that was legitimately a

00:35:36hook we've been through

00:35:37this yeah and like Vince

00:35:39McMahon is a super soaker

00:35:40full of what was meant to

00:35:41become yeah what what we

00:35:43all got loved it yeah yeah

00:35:45I mean you loved it as

00:35:46well don't I like you're

00:35:47above it when we actually

00:35:48watched you that's pretty

00:35:48classic yeah it's brick

00:35:52dick and it's made for the

00:35:54chickens I wouldn't think

00:35:57these actions would have

00:35:58consequences but they did

00:35:59yeah like Vince McMahon

00:36:00said it it was a good line

00:36:01but it was also true like

00:36:02to defeat a billionaire

00:36:03I had to become a

00:36:04billionaire he basically

00:36:04kind of created something

00:36:05that resembled a TV

00:36:06network to defeat a TV

00:36:07network and then there's

00:36:08absolutely nothing for 20

00:36:09years right there's the

00:36:11consequence of that and

00:36:12it's a pretty fat

00:36:13f***ing consequence right

00:36:14so AEW launches and we

00:36:16enter this this I think

00:36:182019 is as good a line in

00:36:19the sand as 1985 in many

00:36:20respects or 1995 with

00:36:22nitro and and that was

00:36:27there wasn't much in 20

00:36:28years but that thing I

00:36:29know that was one of them

00:36:30the six good things from

00:36:3220 years of absolute

00:36:33s***

00:36:33Sid has outlined everything

00:36:37and we've done this

00:36:38before we've articulated

00:36:38everything that ultimately

00:36:40was destined to happen

00:36:41with AEW again we are now

00:36:42in the consequences era of

00:36:44AEW's growth and success

00:36:47and then ultimately you did

00:36:48too much

00:36:48I told you kid you didn't

00:36:51do much I don't think I

00:36:52mentioned this in a

00:36:53podcast yet but I sent it

00:36:54to Sid when I read it

00:36:55there was a young books

00:36:56interview a couple of

00:36:56months ago and it like it

00:36:58just really stuck with me

00:36:59because there's a great it's

00:37:00the last great arc in the

00:37:02American office which is

00:37:03when Michael Scott briefly

00:37:05leaves Dunder Mifflin and

00:37:06forms the Michael Scott

00:37:07paper company and then

00:37:08makes a surprising success

00:37:09of it because Dunder

00:37:10Mifflin's methods were

00:37:11becoming archaic and

00:37:12Michael Scott was a

00:37:13beloved salesman who was

00:37:14actually it's like by a

00:37:16series of little miracles

00:37:17was able to make the

00:37:18Michael Scott paper company

00:37:19overnight this

00:37:20profitable thing but

00:37:21there's a point where

00:37:22like it gets a bit hard

00:37:22because there's only a

00:37:23couple of them and he's

00:37:24like he's Michael Scott

00:37:25he's a man baby he's

00:37:26kind of learning as he

00:37:27goes no it's actually

00:37:28really really difficult to

00:37:29run a successful paper

00:37:30company against the main

00:37:31like sort of like the

00:37:32main paper company and

00:37:34then so he goes for like

00:37:35he leaves like it's Pam

00:37:36and Ryan and he leaves

00:37:37them in his little office

00:37:38for a second he goes

00:37:38outside and he's sick of

00:37:40these two man maybe I

00:37:42need to leave the

00:37:43Michael Scott paper

00:37:43company and form my own

00:37:44paper company and it's

00:37:45like he's not spotting

00:37:47what's happening there the

00:37:47young books interview is

00:37:48like yeah we're thinking

00:37:49about buying maybe PWG

00:37:51and getting that off the

00:37:52ground again it's like

00:37:52you did it it's called

00:37:53only in wrestling pal

00:37:55but you did it you did

00:37:57it right you can't just

00:37:58like buy those

00:37:58emissions like we're

00:37:59going to reopen

00:38:00receiver two it's like

00:38:02no that was what this

00:38:03was and you've done it

00:38:04and you've made it but

00:38:04it's that moment of like

00:38:05there's this like they

00:38:07don't realize they're

00:38:07saying it they're just

00:38:08being like trying to be

00:38:10like what gregarious and

00:38:11that they really believe

00:38:12like and as they should

00:38:13they've done a lot of

00:38:14amazing good for wrestling

00:38:15the young books deserve

00:38:16to be in that list with

00:38:16Cody and the rest of

00:38:17like left it better than

00:38:18they found it you know

00:38:18when they stubbornly

00:38:20talk about the jobs

00:38:21they created I kind of

00:38:21get where they're coming

00:38:22from it's like we get

00:38:23criticized for everything

00:38:23we do but like look how

00:38:24many jobs they're right

00:38:25you know they're just

00:38:26irritating but they're

00:38:27right you know they are

00:38:28but they're right and so

00:38:30but that just really stuck

00:38:31out to me it's like yep

00:38:32like actions consequences

00:38:34we have reached this

00:38:35point now so what I'm

00:38:37saying is like this was

00:38:39inevitable with that 20

00:38:42year period everything's

00:38:44inevitable so much of the

00:38:45what AEW gave out was

00:38:47because there was 20

00:38:48years of a booker that

00:38:51was this withholding piece

00:38:53of garbage that you were

00:38:54constantly encouraged to

00:38:56think of the things you

00:38:56wanted because you weren't

00:38:57getting them over here

00:38:58like 52 rows and

00:39:00smackdowns a year and not

00:39:01one week did you get

00:39:02something you wanted like

00:39:03so as a result what's

00:39:05that meme sorry it's from

00:39:07a cartoon where some

00:39:10creature is like and it

00:39:12forms a perfect circle has

00:39:14what looks like 300

00:39:15cigarettes in the mouth

00:39:16have you seen this

00:39:17that's AW that everything

00:39:22you wanted or missed the

00:39:24backlog oh it's doing the

00:39:25first two years the

00:39:26arsehole boom and now it's

00:39:28like all right you had a

00:39:28checklist I remember you

00:39:30talk about it regularly

00:39:30I'm full

00:39:31WWE was the last one left

00:39:33on a mainstream scale yes

00:39:35a bunch of alternatives

00:39:37rise up but they can only

00:39:39get to a certain level and

00:39:40whether like ring of on a

00:39:41hard cause TNA fans want to

00:39:43admit it or not that was

00:39:45probably the era where it

00:39:46most established at the

00:39:47WWE this is the dance

00:39:48because you would want your

00:39:50ring of on a favorite to

00:39:51actually make it in the

00:39:52fed yeah it was became like

00:39:53a default thing didn't it

00:39:54you know and it was like

00:39:55CM Punk built himself in

00:39:57ring of honor in such a

00:39:57way physically in every

00:39:59respect really to to make

00:40:00it in the fed to prove the

00:40:02fed round that was like

00:40:04this strange thing like TNA

00:40:05wrestlers that like you

00:40:06know I'm watching friggin

00:40:08James Storm like come in as

00:40:11Brayton Walker knock

00:40:11brains out and it's like

00:40:12this is going horribly

00:40:14wrong Chris Harris yeah

00:40:15Chris Harris sorry but

00:40:16he's a TNA guy so I

00:40:17want it to work for a

00:40:17minute before it fails

00:40:18horribly and he falls flat

00:40:19on his face like um

00:40:21you know like ultimately

00:40:26the amount of withholding

00:40:28that Vincent Mann did as a

00:40:29booker like gave you 20

00:40:31years not 12 like what the

00:40:34monopoly was what 17

00:40:34years yeah yeah 17 years

00:40:37of even when it happened a

00:40:38bit in ring of honor it

00:40:39happened a bit in TNA you

00:40:40actually wanted to see it

00:40:41happen on the proper

00:40:42telly and AEW did it like

00:40:43delivered one after another

00:40:45after another all those

00:40:45things like we're not going

00:40:46to withhold anything

00:40:47anymore and then like that

00:40:49they do it and by about

00:40:502022 they've done most of

00:40:52it and then in the most

00:40:53unlikely of circumstances

00:40:54Vince isn't even there

00:40:55anymore so like me as a

00:40:59wrestling fan has never

00:41:00felt more satiated AEW has

00:41:01paid off all of these

00:41:02things that Vincent Mann

00:41:03withheld and then me you

00:41:05kind of just wants the fed

00:41:06to be good all along gets

00:41:07that like the consequences

00:41:10are there's a lot of us

00:41:12within it's a big bubble

00:41:12but a lot of us in this

00:41:14bubble are just exhausted

00:41:14and then just to speak

00:41:16briefly on some of the new

00:41:17fans that I don't think we

00:41:18can speak to that I can't

00:41:20speak on new WWE fans I

00:41:22don't know what that I don't

00:41:23know all of what that

00:41:24experience is but I do know

00:41:26that my kids were hooked

00:41:27after the Royal Rumble this

00:41:28year infographics wrestlers

00:41:30instant stories that that one

00:41:33night got them if they were

00:41:34even a little bit interested

00:41:35because it was dad's work

00:41:36is that the SummerSlam

00:41:371989 proper like you

00:41:39remember how they

00:41:39presented the Rumble this

00:41:40year it's on Netflix you

00:41:42know like it was always

00:41:43just dad's work it's

00:41:43wrestling whatever

00:41:44Exposition City Exposition

00:41:45City Jones easily visible

00:41:47watched it over and over

00:41:48and over again and then all

00:41:50of a sudden new 60

00:41:50wrestlers and we're on the

00:41:51road to Wrestlemania like

00:41:52no better time all that

00:41:53kind of thing I've told the

00:41:54story in a podcast already

00:41:55Joshua my youngest the one

00:41:57of the two that's really

00:41:58like wrestling got his

00:41:59hooks into him this year

00:42:00like like belts and

00:42:01everything got belts

00:42:02loves Cody Rhodes as far as

00:42:04his dad's yeah top star

00:42:06Cody Rhodes you know it's

00:42:07like who's your favorite

00:42:08where's the biggest and

00:42:09most promoted one yeah I

00:42:10was an over warrior kid I

00:42:11get it uh like has he got

00:42:14a Giannetti well because my

00:42:16favorite was Hulk but

00:42:17obviously I love Marty

00:42:18Giannetti everyone's got

00:42:19their proto work rate well

00:42:20yes but it's a weird one

00:42:22it's Tamatonga right well

00:42:24like yeah yeah yeah daft for

00:42:27him and again like this is

00:42:29this this weird MFT thing

00:42:30happening on Smackdown

00:42:31but I think I've told you

00:42:32both and I think I've

00:42:33said on a pod uh the whole

00:42:34Seth Rollins situation's

00:42:35happening and then you get

00:42:36a kind of couple of

00:42:37payoffs and he might miss

00:42:38a roar along the way

00:42:39and he's like oh so

00:42:40Seth Rollins is there

00:42:41Ronnie Garvin yeah probably

00:42:43I said what's happening

00:42:45now that Seth's not got

00:42:45the belt and I said oh

00:42:46it's it's worked CM Punk

00:42:47was an M1 contender

00:42:48obviously and Jay used

00:42:49to have won that battle

00:42:50Royal on Raw and he went

00:42:52oh ends up Saturday night

00:42:53main event again and like

00:42:56Punk and Jay haven't

00:42:57wrestled a lot but what a

00:42:5810-year-old is telling

00:42:59you is I'm over these

00:43:01yeah and I'm just can

00:43:02I have some new ones

00:43:03because that's how you

00:43:03feel when you're 10 can

00:43:04I have some new ones it's

00:43:06brutal but it's fair you

00:43:07know it's worked magic on

00:43:09me back in the day I

00:43:10didn't realize we're all

00:43:11getting drugged out yeah

00:43:13suspended and criminals I

00:43:15was like ah new ones yes

00:43:16like Wrestlemania 8

00:43:17you figures

00:43:18Wrestlemania 8 right

00:43:19Hogan's going away uh and

00:43:22you know what the real

00:43:23life reasons are but it's

00:43:23like that's fine because

00:43:24like the Warriors just

00:43:25come back everything's

00:43:25fine Warriors gonna

00:43:26wrestle Sid Sid has

00:43:27disappeared that's like a

00:43:28Papa Shango but you're

00:43:29just fine but that level

00:43:31of like that's three weeks

00:43:32I'm describing there and

00:43:33like that's how many

00:43:34things they've had to turn

00:43:35through that doesn't

00:43:36happen anymore and nor

00:43:37should it I suppose but

00:43:38like if you are one of

00:43:40these now it doesn't if

00:43:41you are one of these new

00:43:41fans that the last two or

00:43:42three years look at like

00:43:44who we talk about when we

00:43:45talk about the main

00:43:46events you've seen them

00:43:47all you've seen them all

00:43:47you've seen most them

00:43:48feud with one another the

00:43:49Drew McIntyre thing that

00:43:51Sage came up with is a

00:43:51good example you've seen

00:43:52that character do the same

00:43:53thing for two years I

00:43:54would argue that's fine

00:43:56because it has involved

00:43:58one of the best stories

00:43:59of recent times yeah but

00:44:01enough now enough and

00:44:04there's a lot done is

00:44:04done I think that's why

00:44:05I'm feeling like the

00:44:06Cody Rhodes heel turn

00:44:07would be really well

00:44:08timed if it happens in

00:44:09the next six months I do

00:44:10I'm hearing the crowds

00:44:11getting quiet in the

00:44:12matches like has this

00:44:13audience for the first

00:44:14time ran out of steam

00:44:15with the top baby face

00:44:16nothing wrong in that

00:44:17yeah but acknowledge it

00:44:18and change accordingly

00:44:19well on the topic of

00:44:21that Adam Powell says

00:44:23could you see Papa

00:44:24H being replaced or

00:44:25given a reduced role by

00:44:26TKO in 2026 I love

00:44:29that we're in an era

00:44:29where that can happen

00:44:30we've said almost with a

00:44:32bit of despair that like

00:44:34if like Tony Khan won't

00:44:36he's obviously a much

00:44:38different and in many

00:44:40many ways better version

00:44:42of Vince McMahon but

00:44:43there is an autocracy in

00:44:44place there and he ain't

00:44:46going nowhere unless he

00:44:47wants to so you have to

00:44:48assume he's not so then

00:44:49you see the foibles and

00:44:50you're like I can't do

00:44:50anything like those

00:44:51foibles I kind of love

00:44:53that this is how WWE

00:44:54set up it's never

00:44:55happened in our lifetime

00:44:55when it happened in

00:44:57WCW it's ridiculous

00:44:59like they got it right

00:45:00once and it was with

00:45:01Eric Bischoff

00:45:01Kip Allen Fry the

00:45:03talent loved him but

00:45:04the numbers weren't

00:45:05good enough to justify

00:45:06his role but

00:45:07ultimately that was a

00:45:07TV company that would

00:45:08like look at graphs

00:45:09and make choices

00:45:10accordingly so

00:45:11naturally Eric Bischoff

00:45:12got the job and the

00:45:12graphs went whoosh like

00:45:13that and he kept his job

00:45:14for years and got more

00:45:16power and got more

00:45:17confidence and you know

00:45:18everything that happened

00:45:19with WCW never been

00:45:20the case in WWE I love

00:45:22at the moment this

00:45:22idea that WWE could

00:45:24potentially be getting

00:45:25penalized for bad

00:45:26booking and tickets

00:45:27being too expensive by

00:45:29looking at crowd

00:45:29comparisons I love it

00:45:30more of that I want

00:45:31I don't want to see

00:45:32buildings half full but

00:45:34I do want WWE to kind

00:45:35of like have the

00:45:36consequences of those

00:45:37actions you know so

00:45:38tickets go back down so

00:45:39that like somebody has

00:45:41to go right well

00:45:42people aren't happy

00:45:43there's 12,000 people

00:45:44here last year now

00:45:44there's six that means

00:45:46something you know and

00:45:47if one of those graphs

00:45:48gets looked at by

00:45:49somebody in TKO

00:45:51it's ruthless you'll

00:45:53never read Triple H

00:45:54Fired you'll read we'd

00:45:55like to thank Paul

00:45:56for his amazing work

00:45:57we've got this really

00:45:57exciting position from

00:45:58that we need him to

00:45:59take up over here but

00:46:00you know what's

00:46:00happening yeah like I

00:46:03think that would be

00:46:03incredible because the

00:46:04next guy that comes in

00:46:05knows that the stakes

00:46:06are just as high and

00:46:07they get like you got

00:46:08about six months pal

00:46:09like you better we want

00:46:11instant results so you

00:46:12best convince the rock

00:46:13that he needs to wrestle

00:46:14this show you best sign

00:46:15this guy you best your

00:46:16first tempo story in

00:46:18his language your first

00:46:20tempo storyline better

00:46:21kick ass and be like

00:46:23the perfect rumble a

00:46:24WrestleMania run for

00:46:24insert superstar a like

00:46:26I've shown the pen book

00:46:28the rock you joke I

00:46:31don't think he'd want

00:46:32it in a million billion

00:46:33years which was

00:46:34happiest in his life but

00:46:35I'd love I'd love to see

00:46:37it main roster NXT yes

00:46:39please yeah I'm like

00:46:41sure like to Citrix point

00:46:44about what Triple H

00:46:44doesn't do Sean

00:46:46Michaels has done it

00:46:47all twice over in

00:46:48NXT yeah and Adam

00:46:50Pierce thanks but no

00:46:50thanks I think we've

00:46:51got a new general

00:46:52manager for Monday

00:46:53Night Raw don't worry

00:46:54about that one and

00:46:54there's a reason right

00:46:55she's coming to the

00:46:57big leagues there is a

00:47:01people rip the piss out

00:47:02of him for it and

00:47:03rightfully so but there

00:47:04is a reason why Triple

00:47:05H loves uploading them

00:47:06videos where showing

00:47:06people how to do their

00:47:07entrances right because

00:47:08he knows that he was

00:47:10always just going to be a

00:47:11guy and then it

00:47:12mattered what it's

00:47:14going to sound like I'm

00:47:14taking the piss it

00:47:15mattered when he spat

00:47:16his water yeah and that

00:47:17was a big thing for him

00:47:18Shawn Michaels could

00:47:19actually go so like he

00:47:21might like he kind of

00:47:22what was that thing we

00:47:22were watching his desk

00:47:23where he was like putting

00:47:24he said it didn't matter

00:47:25that Brett stumble

00:47:26bumbleed once or

00:47:26he was Brett fucking

00:47:27hard yeah and that's

00:47:28Shawn Michaels saying

00:47:29that you know like he

00:47:30could stumble bumble but

00:47:31people believe in the

00:47:31hitman so that's all it

00:47:32matters Sean was

00:47:33actually a one of the

00:47:34best ever yeah

00:47:35Triple H played one

00:47:36yeah

00:47:37Triple H is part of the

00:47:38triple threat I think

00:47:39you'll find that was the

00:47:39name they had for I saw

00:47:42like yesterday he's

00:47:42doing the rounds like

00:47:44on the triple the

00:47:45red like there Shane

00:47:46Douglas that guy and

00:47:48it's funny because he

00:47:48hated him weird that

00:47:49let's see uh Sige

00:47:52Triple H replaced in

00:47:54twenty twenty six

00:47:54um I don't think it's

00:47:57happening anytime soon

00:47:58but no no he's done

00:48:00well to and this is not

00:48:02an insight but he's done

00:48:04well to position himself

00:48:05as the Fed Dana White

00:48:06the great orchestrator the

00:48:09great conductor the

00:48:11architect of heart fed

00:48:13coming out opening

00:48:15which shows he opens

00:48:16not opening which shows

00:48:18he doesn't

00:48:18booking himself as the

00:48:22creative genius of

00:48:23unreal might bite him in

00:48:26the arse because now

00:48:28he's almost synonymous

00:48:29with WWE and the way

00:48:30Vince was so effective

00:48:31marketing but what if

00:48:33the first thing you think

00:48:35of is WWE and this

00:48:37down fall in popularity

00:48:39continues and he just

00:48:41feels like well you

00:48:43can't sack the players

00:48:44but you can sack the

00:48:45manager yeah did the

00:48:47AW houses sort of like

00:48:50half and half and half

00:48:51again is that kind of

00:48:52how it's gone roughly

00:48:53over like a five-year

00:48:53period yeah you know

00:48:55that's like that's a

00:48:56reasonable comparison

00:48:58to use with WWE like

00:48:59again it's maybe not

00:49:00year on year but town

00:49:01we're doing like a lot of

00:49:03sixes I think and like

00:49:04pictures late 2021

00:49:06early 2022 so like

00:49:08oh look you have to

00:49:09get 1500 you know

00:49:10residency I'll have to

00:49:11lie again they're gonna

00:49:13get 4000 for button

00:49:14guts or whatever but

00:49:14that's probably an

00:49:15outlier the house is a

00:49:16crap Vince couldn't

00:49:17sack himself when he

00:49:18was like I'm gonna have

00:49:18to run a friggin

00:49:19Manhattan center for

00:49:20raw yeah he couldn't

00:49:21like if Triple H

00:49:22proposes that to you

00:49:23we're thinking we're

00:49:24actually gonna start

00:49:25running the smaller

00:49:26residences save for you

00:49:28Bob and all that what

00:49:28do you reckon TKO

00:49:29we're gonna kill you

00:49:31yeah yeah yeah we're

00:49:32gonna kick your ass

00:49:33speaking of blood and

00:49:35guts shout out to

00:49:36Mark Lee Willis thank

00:49:37you for your question

00:49:37re blood and guts I'll

00:49:39save that for the

00:49:40dynamite preview because

00:49:41it sent us around

00:49:42crazy moments in that

00:49:43potential match and

00:49:44the book shot Larry

00:49:45spot you have to leave

00:49:46that with us will you

00:49:47because you won't get

00:49:47to preview that yeah

00:49:48busy but I'll forward

00:49:50that on but let's fly

00:49:52through some final

00:49:53questions as we wrap

00:49:54things up a bit of a

00:49:55speed round here

00:49:55Jay Fraser says what

00:49:58venue do you think could

00:49:59make a great wrestling

00:50:00show in terms of

00:50:01aesthetic and atmosphere

00:50:02personally I think

00:50:03Wimbledon's center

00:50:04court and maybe the

00:50:04crucible oh the

00:50:06crucible would be like

00:50:07yeah the crucible would

00:50:08be dynamite and then

00:50:09Wimbledon would be when

00:50:10it's back on top because

00:50:11obviously tennis was

00:50:12yeah I read this

00:50:14question earlier and I

00:50:15was trying to think of a

00:50:16cruise equivalent because

00:50:18I just loved oh yeah I

00:50:20love the cruise episode

00:50:21of dynamite so god damn

00:50:23much so I don't know what

00:50:24it would necessarily be but

00:50:26less historic venues

00:50:28repurposed for wrestling and

00:50:29more kind of fun different

00:50:31unusual locales I don't

00:50:34know how many times I

00:50:35keep having to say the

00:50:36sphere but I'll just put

00:50:37that out there the

00:50:38sphere and incredible for

00:50:40that UFC show I mean

00:50:41tickets were insane you're

00:50:42never gonna you know sell

00:50:43your house to go and see

00:50:44that show but the visuals

00:50:45looked amazing yeah I

00:50:47don't know if it'd be safe

00:50:48because all right Jeff

00:50:51Hardy was he gonna come

00:50:52out with the king the king

00:50:53of the road match what was

00:50:54the the classic

00:50:55like you know like it's all

00:51:00like Saturday you know

00:51:01Saudi Arabia deal and that

00:51:02it's all everything's like

00:51:04really disgusting wealth

00:51:05now and that's what's like

00:51:06popular the influence is not

00:51:07a massive on top of a

00:51:10skyscraper like I don't know

00:51:12if like people are like

00:51:13blown off the side or

00:51:14something

00:51:14or Baron could choke

00:51:15someone off

00:51:15perfect yeah but like yeah

00:51:18but like a shoot top of a

00:51:19skyscraper you got the

00:51:20drones and the helicopters

00:51:21like showing the ring you

00:51:22know like WCW used to go

00:51:23pretty big with their daft

00:51:24ideas yeah it's like by

00:51:25bash at the beach there's

00:51:27300,000 people on this

00:51:28but you could say it

00:51:30because you had a

00:51:31helicopter shot of a full

00:51:32beach I just put a bunch

00:51:33of people on top of it

00:51:34raw on the roof I remember

00:51:37I was very skittish about

00:51:39things reopening mid

00:51:42pando like I just everyone

00:51:45else's love enough crowds

00:51:46are coming back and I was

00:51:47thinking is it the right

00:51:48thing with you and me I was

00:51:50thinking oh I used to do

00:51:51a summer series at a beach

00:51:52yeah it's outdoors you know

00:51:55I thought for a while that's

00:51:55what they were going to do

00:51:56when USC had to relocate

00:51:58they were like they teased

00:52:00they teased they teased a

00:52:03UFC cage on the beach and

00:52:04I was like oh I have to

00:52:06watch every fight that

00:52:06that was incredible like

00:52:07something like something

00:52:08out of like Tekken or

00:52:09whatever yeah it's just in

00:52:11a building in a building but

00:52:13on a beach yeah yeah no

00:52:14beaches beaches with good

00:52:17things instead of bash at

00:52:19the beach 95 yeah that's

00:52:21where I would be head wise

00:52:22with that uh question here

00:52:24from a jungle oh yeah I

00:52:27oh rumble in the jungle

00:52:29royal rumble in the jungle

00:52:30perfect uh question here

00:52:32from I mean you see like

00:52:33the backyarders and you see

00:52:34these like desolate Iowa

00:52:36landscapes it just looks a

00:52:38bit low rent gritty

00:52:40AW did one of those holes

00:52:43like IWA mid-south or

00:52:45whatever like I'd quite like

00:52:46that sort of like I don't know

00:52:49that sort of America dive

00:52:51aesthetic maybe question from

00:52:54Mr. Jeans that's kind of

00:52:56what I want and I want it

00:52:58now I want jeans because I'm

00:53:01Mr. Jeans based on the

00:53:04current wrestling news what

00:53:05are the best examples of

00:53:06wrestlers maximizing their

00:53:07minutes and going on to

00:53:08become bigger stars

00:53:09swerves the ultimate example

00:53:11modern wise like he's a guy

00:53:13who came in and yeah he got

00:53:15like the pay-per-view debut but

00:53:17it wasn't like the CM Punk

00:53:18run wasn't the Danielson and

00:53:21he came in right do some

00:53:23tag spots you can lose to

00:53:25Derby and Orange and all the

00:53:27rest of it and like big TV

00:53:29matches and there's never

00:53:32any ceiling in AW you can do

00:53:34jobs and do them a decent

00:53:36amount I don't know what

00:53:37Swerve's record would have

00:53:38been but you always seem to

00:53:39lose as big feuds like there

00:53:41was a Derby stuff you'd have

00:53:42matches with Derby I remember

00:53:43he had a match with Orange

00:53:44you lose those but like it's

00:53:47just so undeniable and he got

00:53:48over and he could see it in

00:53:50his NXT run as well yeah and

00:53:51you were realizing this is

00:53:52potentially a missed

00:53:52opportunity he stuck out

00:53:53massively yeah in that era

00:53:55and you know it's just to

00:53:56say I mean if you just stay

00:53:57on brother stay on brother

00:53:59it's like if you come in it

00:54:01just instantly there's been so

00:54:03many instances of wrestlers who

00:54:07think that they are too big for

00:54:09the jobs that they refuse to do

00:54:11that like they're known as

00:54:12shorthand low-key Tessa Blanchard

00:54:14Austin Aries like there are

00:54:17nicknames now if someone comes

00:54:19into AEW it's like I'll check

00:54:20out low-key over here I just

00:54:21want to do a job I literally

00:54:23everyone can see through how

00:54:25pathetic this is other than the

00:54:26people who don't want to lose

00:54:27but Swerve is the ultimate one

00:54:30for me top of my head recent

00:54:32example at Swerve I think like

00:54:34as he said maximizing minutes in

00:54:36defeat specifically just just

00:54:38anyone who maximized their minutes

00:54:40and became bigger stars as a

00:54:41result there was a really

00:54:42wonderful moment and it was

00:54:44just to go back to Vince

00:54:46McMahon's withholding years

00:54:48where they've just seen the

00:54:50most amazing synergy between

00:54:52performers abilities bookers

00:54:53interest and fan sentiment a

00:54:56holy trinity really around

00:54:58Braun Strowman in 2016 yeah it

00:55:00was magic feeling it was

00:55:01Vince McMahon loved it Braun

00:55:03would do just a tiny bit more

00:55:04every week because it was

00:55:05squash City Jones but like you

00:55:06know people remember kind of

00:55:07James Ellsworth getting his own

00:55:08run off the back of it so he was

00:55:09maximizing minutes but like

00:55:11Braun himself for a guy that

00:55:14like has gone on to like kind

00:55:15of you know like not to sort of

00:55:17succumb to cliches or anything

00:55:18but kind of just be like a kind

00:55:20of big muscle guy that doesn't

00:55:22think too deeply about the

00:55:23business but like deeply about

00:55:24nothing but knows what his role

00:55:26could be in it the guy's an

00:55:27idiot that there was famous

00:55:29infamous idiot either he was

00:55:31supremely coachable and

00:55:33understood direction very well or

00:55:36showed instincts or maybe better

00:55:37it was a nice combination of the

00:55:39two and he was a very obviously

00:55:41a Vince McMahon traditional

00:55:42airport test guy the fans took

00:55:45to him yeah he would then add

00:55:47little bits to his repertoire

00:55:47then they would like remember

00:55:49like in 2017 when he very

00:55:50comprehensively won a feud with

00:55:51Roman Reigns and it was almost

00:55:53like you'd be instructed to kind

00:55:54of go like oh are you yeah

00:55:56new big guy is here and he's

00:55:58bigger like that felt magic it

00:56:01really did like and they

00:56:03debauched it they botched

00:56:04everything but like it was yeah

00:56:06for a minute yeah that I'm yeah

00:56:08I'm a bit of a sucker for that

00:56:092016 brand split and Ron

00:56:12Smackdown much like Dynamite now

00:56:14Raw would have these like

00:56:16segment bits so it was like

00:56:19here's a Sasha Charlotte bit

00:56:20here's a Braun Strowman squash

00:56:22bit and they would drop roughly

00:56:24around the same time every week

00:56:25and the Braun you couldn't wait

00:56:26like what's

00:56:27what's

00:56:28what's

00:56:29what's he gonna do

00:56:30another big idiot like it was

00:56:32really exciting like that

00:56:33that was again

00:56:34bro

00:56:35remember he had those big

00:56:36trousers that looked like he

00:56:37pissed himself

00:56:38yeah

00:56:38who was gonna tell him that

00:56:39it was massive

00:56:40I'm not finished with you

00:56:42and smashed it like a door of an

00:56:43ambulance or whatever

00:56:44KO

00:56:45Owens and Jericho had him as like

00:56:47the Survivor Series partner

00:56:48there couldn't be certain he

00:56:49wasn't gonna rip their heads off

00:56:50yeah

00:56:51it's like

00:56:51right final couple of questions

00:56:57he's the worst guy alive man

00:56:59he is the worst guy ever

00:57:01you know about that Survivor Series

00:57:02Matt

00:57:02just in general Triple H is the

00:57:04worst guy ever man

00:57:05as it pertains to my 18 possible

00:57:06WrestleMania reports

00:57:07I will decide nearer the time

00:57:09worked out right there didn't it

00:57:12was that the Ronda year

00:57:12yeah

00:57:13he wasn't in the Survivor Series

00:57:14yeah

00:57:15he was the only

00:57:15he was the only team Raw guy

00:57:17that had a red t-shirt but he

00:57:19didn't say Raw

00:57:19it had his like big Latin skull

00:57:21I repeat

00:57:22the worst guy ever

00:57:24in the history of guys

00:57:27question just for you here

00:57:28Sige from WT

00:57:29if Darby Allin and Ilya Dragunov

00:57:31did a blood feud

00:57:32which one would rip their

00:57:33ball sack open first

00:57:34for the love of the game

00:57:35oh

00:57:35who likes the punishment more

00:57:38oh god

00:57:40yeah I want to see it

00:57:41I do want to see this match

00:57:44ball sack match

00:57:44oh

00:57:45just generally these two

00:57:48going at it

00:57:49like men

00:57:51um

00:57:52or

00:57:53tonight

00:57:53balls

00:57:55or

00:57:57Dragunov is

00:57:58they're both

00:57:59incredible wrestlers

00:58:01yeah

00:58:01mostly

00:58:02Darby I prefer more

00:58:03but whatever

00:58:04there are parallels to be drawn

00:58:05both incredible on the best nights

00:58:07uh

00:58:08both

00:58:08ridiculous

00:58:10thresholds for pain

00:58:12and both completely give me the

00:58:13ick

00:58:13and I think they're totally lame

00:58:15it's like

00:58:16you know

00:58:17it's like

00:58:18more undertaker

00:58:19versus undertaker

00:58:20than undertaker

00:58:20versus undertaker

00:58:21like they are completely the same

00:58:22lame will entertain

00:58:23yeah

00:58:24pain

00:58:26will entertain you

00:58:28and like it just

00:58:29cuts to people in the crowd

00:58:30going oh god

00:58:31can you just beat yourself up

00:58:32because that's actually good

00:58:33this is really lame

00:58:33um

00:58:34I would go with

00:58:36I reckon Dragunov would go

00:58:39anything you can do

00:58:40I could do better

00:58:40and like try and do

00:58:43Starby's

00:58:44like low pay thing

00:58:45yeah

00:58:45and just tear his

00:58:46nutsack

00:58:47on the bottom rope

00:58:49or something

00:58:49yeah

00:58:50I was

00:58:51you know

00:58:51now he would start to like

00:58:52you know when like

00:58:54Swerve would sort of like

00:58:56go like that

00:58:56and that's like a thing

00:58:57Osprey's done

00:58:58I think he just

00:58:58put his fingers upside his

00:59:01ballsack

00:59:02and just start licking

00:59:03blood

00:59:04you know

00:59:04Darby's infamous

00:59:06water

00:59:06I love it

00:59:08oh yeah

00:59:08Darby's

00:59:09I saw some video

00:59:10pain is a sky

00:59:12memory of triumph

00:59:14back when he was married to

00:59:15and I mean that's my ball blood

00:59:17for Sue Kelly

00:59:18and they didn't submit to you

00:59:20together

00:59:20and talking about like

00:59:23when they first got together

00:59:24they're out on the road

00:59:25and they've gone to some

00:59:26diner

00:59:27and it's just like

00:59:27oh god

00:59:28you're a lot mate

00:59:30like yeah

00:59:31I took some of the hot sauce

00:59:32and like the sachets

00:59:34hot sauce

00:59:34and you know

00:59:35on the road

00:59:35and I drip one

00:59:37right into my ass

00:59:38and it's like

00:59:39you sure did

00:59:40you

00:59:40what's that Darby

00:59:41my ass

00:59:42did you make a long drive

00:59:49I suppose

00:59:49so like

00:59:50Ely Dragunov

00:59:50splits his ball sack

00:59:51on the dive

00:59:52and then Darby sees that

00:59:53and it's like

00:59:53I've got to split my heart

00:59:54yeah yeah yeah

00:59:54referee wakes up

00:59:55and it's like

00:59:55first blood

00:59:56it's a draw

00:59:57yeah

00:59:57there's testes

00:59:58all over the place

00:59:59yeah

00:59:59balls everywhere

01:00:00try to cut the cock off

01:00:02just to outdo each other

01:00:03yeah it's a constant

01:00:04game of one-upsmanship

01:00:05then like eating their own cocks

01:00:06and s***ing them out

01:00:07and you're like

01:00:07s***

01:00:08I'm harder than you

01:00:09I'll go forever

01:00:10yeah referee's like

01:00:11I don't know

01:00:12their own cock out first

01:00:13I was knocked out

01:00:14oh god

01:00:14and Darby's like

01:00:15well alright

01:00:16I'll cut my own arm off

01:00:17and then I'll use it

01:00:18as a weapon

01:00:18and Ely's like

01:00:19not so fast

01:00:19he cuts his leg off

01:00:20and he's like

01:00:20yeah yeah yeah

01:00:21headless cockless

01:00:24arseless

01:00:24yeah yeah yeah

01:00:25I've got nothing

01:00:26I've got nothing left

01:00:27I've got nothing

01:00:28smackdown rules on

01:00:29which is your favourite

01:00:30catchphrase of all time

01:00:31to finish up

01:00:32from Hank McCoy

01:00:33well it's probably

01:00:35I'm going to

01:00:37s*** out my cock

01:00:38I can't s***

01:00:39do I entertain you

01:00:40so other than that

01:00:45favourite catchphrase

01:00:48of all time

01:00:49it's a 40 year old man

01:00:51I don't really have any

01:00:56but historically

01:01:00in terms of

01:01:01what are the ones

01:01:01that I've liked

01:01:02to have said the most

01:01:03and got me the most

01:01:03jazzed up

01:01:04either suck it

01:01:06realistically

01:01:07it's probably suck it

01:01:09or

01:01:09I used to love

01:01:11oh that's really clever

01:01:12like in year nine

01:01:14Hanford can you remember

01:01:15year nine

01:01:16it doesn't matter

01:01:17if you remember

01:01:18year nine

01:01:19or like

01:01:20every day we try

01:01:21and get each other

01:01:21it's just

01:01:22it doesn't matter

01:01:23it's just the

01:01:24it doesn't matter

01:01:26it's just the funniest

01:01:27thing they do

01:01:28I was thinking of two

01:01:29there

01:01:29duality in me really

01:01:31because when

01:01:31Serge said like

01:01:32you know

01:01:32stuff that really

01:01:33gets your jazz

01:01:33and you kind of

01:01:34can't stop saying it

01:01:35don't say yeet

01:01:35over here is the

01:01:36better is the best

01:01:36it was

01:01:37the better ever

01:01:37will be

01:01:37and over here is yeet

01:01:38it doesn't say yeet

01:01:39you know

01:01:40both serving purposes

01:01:41yeah probably

01:01:44I think right now

01:01:44hoorah for all three

01:01:45hoorah

01:01:46hoorah

01:01:47he thought that was

01:01:48coming back

01:01:482026 year of the

01:01:49miss is going to be

01:01:50on

01:01:51he's already started

01:01:51calling his

01:01:52on the trajectory

01:01:52for something that

01:01:53boring and rubbish

01:01:54to get booked

01:01:54strongly so

01:01:55because the area

01:01:57of the miss and

01:01:57it's awesome

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