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00:00Coming up on Cards and Collectibles.
00:06How a dreamer created an AFL card game that has kicked goals for over 25 years.
00:14A father and son duo who struck gold through their bonding hobby.
00:20And a game-worn jersey collector preserving history one thread at a time.
00:25There's hidden treasures all over this country.
00:32Vintage sports cards, they're almost like antiques.
00:35Come on a journey with Cards and Collectibles Australia
00:38where collectors from across the continent unite to showcase their treasures.
00:43It's got to be seven figures, it's got to be a million dollars plus.
00:47Witness the passion, the money and the stories behind Australia's most coveted collectibles.
00:53Back then they were laughing and now they call me a genius.
01:02It's nearly impossible to go out in public without encountering fans proudly sporting AFL or NBA jerseys.
01:10It's the most common way to pledge allegiance to your beloved teams or players.
01:15Taking this to a whole other level, one collector has embarked on a global quest seeking out jerseys actually worn by his idols.
01:24I think the best part of owning stuff about footy jumpers is I can go to a game and watch these boys run around in these things
01:39and then buy them at the end of the season.
01:41I can remember being in grade four at school.
01:43We used to draw the jerseys, used to cut them out.
01:45So I had all my little Jordan and Olajuwon shirts and did the same for footy.
01:49Used to have a ladder that I kept on the wall and just blue tacked the jumpers onto that every year.
01:53And that was my introduction into my love for the sporting memorabilia.
01:57And then in terms of the actual game-worn aspects, when I sort of realised some of these things were actually available,
02:05I set out the task of trying to see if I could get all my favourite players.
02:09Dustin Martin, Gary Ablett Senior, Tony Modra, Chris Judd, Connor Rosee, Robert Harvey, Gary Ablett Junior,
02:18Benny Cousins, Matthew Pavlich, Shane Crawford, Wayne Carey, Adam Cooney, Warren Tredray,
02:26Michael Voss, Nick Dacos, David Neitz and Chris Judd.
02:31So I've got around 350 items at the minute.
02:34That's split between football and basketball.
02:36I would say my favourites in the collection change on a weekly basis.
02:40This is Lance Buddy Franklin's 2008 Dream Team jumper,
02:43worn in their celebration of football at the MCG versus Victoria.
02:47The cool thing about this one is they actually wrote all of the names of the football clubs in Australia,
02:53all across the front and the back.
02:55This was super cool because I got it from Trent Crote who played on him that day.
02:58He traded Guernseys with Trent after.
03:01When I started collecting, it was very much, you know, scatter effect, grab what you can.
03:06Whereas now I take far more time looking into the things that I want.
03:10I try and hunt down the best item for that player or the person, whoever I'm looking at, the best style sometimes.
03:16So a lot of the AFL stuff that I get nowadays is stuff that I'm getting from players who maybe played in that early era and it's just too difficult to source them from anywhere else.
03:26So this is Adam Good's 2015 Indigenous jumper.
03:29It was worn in a special moment when they played Carlton at the SCG.
03:33Adam kicked a goal and he ran and did a Indigenous war dance towards the Carlton supporters.
03:39For the historical factor, this is one of my favourites.
03:42COVID really triggered something in collecting of football memorabilia.
03:46I guess a lot of people were sat at home, particularly in Melbourne, the mecca for footy and there was just deals going on left, right and centre.
03:57Most people realised that Collingwood played in what will be the last drawn grand final to have a replay.
04:03In 2010, if people recall, Collingwood and St Kilda ended in a draw and they had to replay the grand final the following week.
04:11Alan wore two jumpers that game, one of the first half won the second half and I was lucky enough to obtain the second half jumper.
04:17At that moment, the final siren went, the last draw in history.
04:21He was wearing that Guernsey.
04:22I love everything about them, how they look, the material.
04:25I sort of noticed things about jerseys and jumpers that other people sort of maybe took for granted or didn't realise.
04:31The way things were stitched, the templates that were used.
04:34So Darren Jarman, you can only win your first grand final once and Darren just went nuts in the last quarter and took the game away from St Kilda.
04:44I never thought I'd be able to get a 97 grand final match worn jumper.
04:47To not only be able to have gotten one off a player, but to have gotten one that is so significant in the history of the Adelaide Footy Club is something that I will cherish over that.
04:55Even if I decided to sell everything, I would never sell that jumper. That means too much for me.
05:00As I've gone on, having stuff that has a history and a story has become something that's really a lot more fulfilling in what you collect.
05:11If you can get one from a night where there's something very special about it, there's something really cool about those pieces.
05:17Undeniably the best thing that I've got from football is Gary Ablett Senior's 1996 Centenary jumper that I have tracked to a game against Fremantle at Cadenia Park where he kicked his 1,000th goal.
05:35Everyone ran on the ground after the 1,000th. The thing I love about it is he kept it unwashed like it's filthy and you can see it get progressively dirtier on the back as he's slid across the ground.
05:47To have something like that is very special. People love looking at that one. It's the first thing I get asked about.
05:52The AFL collection is always close to my heart being homegrown and Australian, but the real value in my collection is in my NBA gear.
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06:20Nearly every modern day sports card release includes some form of jersey autograph.
06:31But this wasn't always the case though. It wasn't until 1997 that Upper Deck produced a set that included the first ever jersey autograph.
06:39This set was called the Game Jersey.
06:43The most desirable and highly sought after card from this set is the Michael Jordan.
06:49What makes it even more unique was the jersey pieces came from the 1992 All-Star Game.
06:54In May 2021, a PSA graded version of this card went up for sale via auction and eventually sold for $3.2 million.
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07:13Team Coach has been a staple of AFL card collecting for over 25 years.
07:19Known for interactive designs and online gameplay, the brand has evolved alongside the game itself.
07:25And it was all the vision of one creative dreamer.
07:36I just like creating. I was a dreamer at school.
07:39I found it very hard to sit still and I always used to think up of concepts and ideas.
07:44The first creative idea, if you like, was every kid would love to sleep under the stars at night.
07:51And that's how Starlight Zone was born and from there we went into licensing.
08:02Oddbods cards involved crazy story swaps and body swaps where the cards glowed.
08:11Through my love for AFL, footy oddbods.
08:14Pokemon CCGs, which was like a new card category known as collectible card game, became an absolute phenomenon.
08:24And I just thought what a great idea would be to do a sports CCG.
08:33Well I've got you something really cool to show you today.
08:35Something you've never seen before.
08:37And this is the first set of AFL Team Coach, which was submitted to the AFL for licensing approval in early 2000, but was never released onto the market.
08:50Who do you pick? Who do you leave out? You be the coach.
09:06The biggest driver for me was making kids happy, was the big one.
09:11And when you have sales, then you know the kids are being happy.
09:16I just drew upon a very basic subsets they had when I was a child.
09:21And then we started introducing a little bit of what we call the chase.
09:24And those ones became interactive, fun for kids and harder to get.
09:28First year like anything, you know a lot of risk and we didn't do very well.
09:36But after four years, slowly but surely the production became higher and higher and it became viable.
09:44That's when things got a lot more comfortable.
09:46My passion of collecting and cards and football, there was just no way we were going to give up.
09:51The whole idea of gameplay was more or less adult based.
09:59We happened to create this new phenomenon to kids.
10:03I think many would have thought that we would have only lasted a year.
10:0625 years later, we've got a number of innovations that we're extremely proud of.
10:15Toys are more fashionable than fashion.
10:18So every year you've got to come up with some sort of innovation to keep the kids excited and wanting more.
10:23Some of the key innovations was prizes, where kids can involve themselves in winning prizes.
10:29Wild cards, they became very much an innovation of different chases.
10:39We were the first to do 32 frames in a card called Footy Flicks, which is quite extraordinary.
10:45We did glow, you know, on cards, glitter.
10:49We reintroduced Scanlan's back into the marketplace as a retro card.
10:54So the fathers and grandfathers could go up to their children and say, this is what I collected.
10:58One of our most recent innovations is known as Cardcraft.
11:02By getting a number one card, two card and three card of a certain player.
11:11If you then get the number four card, which groups all three cards together, you then activate by putting your codes into our team coach website.
11:20A 24K gold plated card.
11:23And they're all handmade, which is just extraordinary.
11:25One of my early passions was collecting animation art and I'd read books and books and books of it.
11:34And I just loved it.
11:36And so it just made sense to me to create art when it came to our own products.
11:41We've worked with a number of artists and we continue to evolve in that area.
11:46The first was, of course, the famous Wegg, Bill Green, Andy Hook and Nick Watson.
11:52And Cole Bodie, Grange Wallace and Jamie Cooper, who's known for the Team of the Century paintings.
12:03Trophy wild cards have been around since about 2006 with Wegg.
12:07And now we have them with Tyson Beck and they would be our hardest card to get, which is the gold trophy wild cards.
12:14You get a silver one and every 12 boxes, every 120 boxes, you will find a gold one.
12:25And for a sneak peek, we're looking at augmented reality, which is watch the player, footy player come alive in AR from your footy card in your pack.
12:36We'd love to keep kids smiling and happy and entertained for many, many more years with Team Coach.
12:41And why not another 25 years?
12:43After the break, a father and son team who have bonded over 24 karat gold.
12:54And if you were impressed by Rob Lee's AFL Guernseys, wait until you see his NBA threads.
13:05To date, which item has not yet been put into a trading card?
13:09A. Blood. B. Sneakers. C. Jerseys. Or D. Diamonds.
13:16Find out after the break.
13:24Welcome back. Did you select the right answer?
13:26Let's find out.
13:27One of the great things trading cards can do is bring family members together.
13:39Mark and Julian De Palma connected over their love of a rare 24 karat gold card set.
13:45Now, their collection is more than just cards. It's a legacy of memories.
13:52The first time I ever opened a pack of Team Coach was when I got best player in my school football game.
14:08We got a Shea Bolton wild card.
14:10Julian, after he pulled Shea Bolton, said, Dad, come on, can we go buy some more packs of Team Coach cards?
14:17We purchased another five packs, and in those five packs, what did you end up pulling?
14:21That was both gold collage cards.
14:23My favourite player.
14:25Yeah, we realised that we had to actually collect three other standard cards in order to craft this special 24k plated gold card,
14:34which we had to do online through Team Coach.
14:39I thought it was real gold, so I thought it was going to be worth millions, because it was not so heavy.
14:47Julian really wanted to collect the other 17 cards,
14:51so it was going to be a bit of a chase and a challenge,
14:54and tried to obviously find other collectors who managed to pull these cards,
14:57and tried to obviously first trade with them.
14:59We ended up purchasing quite a lot that year, which actually cost me a bit.
15:07Once we got the last card, it was amazing.
15:09It cost us $1,000, that card.
15:11Still waiting to get paid back for that one.
15:17To my knowledge, we were the only people in Australia
15:19to get all 18 players, which was awesome.
15:222022, Team Coach were at it again.
15:25But unfortunately, they made it to 36 instead of the 18 players that you had to count.
15:29I was like, are you joking me?
15:33I looked at the thought, because just opening the packs is so fun.
15:36We sort of bonded through, I guess, that second series.
15:46It was just pretty much me and Julian.
15:47You know, the rest of the family was sort of, you know, what are you guys doing?
15:56In set three, there was only going to be 92 cards made per player,
15:59which I thought, geez, well, that's going to be hard.
16:02We managed to complete the third set, and that was awesome.
16:08The fourth set in 2024, they ended up adding Majestic cards.
16:12That included famous players like Dustin Martin again,
16:15Scott Penelbury, Christian Petrarca, Patrick Cripps.
16:18Well, this time around, the whole family got on board.
16:23Wife and two other kids.
16:25Basically, we made it a family thing.
16:27It bonded the family all together.
16:29We'd find that, you know, birthdays, get boxes of cards.
16:32Easter, another box of cards.
16:34How many 2024 Team Coach packs would we have opened?
16:38I reckon about...
16:39Thousand something. No, I don't know.
16:41At least over 2,000, probably.
16:43We actually managed to pull ourselves more than half of the cards that we needed.
16:49My daughter pulled one.
16:50She was like over the moon.
16:51Dad, Dad, Dad, I got one, I got one!
16:53Which was awesome.
16:57That brings it up to 126 gold-plated craft cards we have.
17:03Been a good bonding session between us, eh?
17:06Having a dad that likes cards, pretty lucky for me.
17:09I just love opening packs, which I wouldn't be able to do myself
17:12because obviously you can't afford that much.
17:16Are we planning on chasing all future gold sets?
17:18What do you reckon?
17:19Definitely.
17:22I don't know. That's TBC.
17:24Who remembers the Reebok Pump?
17:39In 1989, Reebok dropped the Pump.
17:42A sneaker with an inflatable air bladder for a custom fit.
17:45But it was Dee Brown's no-look dunk in the 1991 NBA Slam dunk contest
17:50that made them legendary, solidifying its place in basketball culture.
17:55I remember my first Reebok Pumps.
17:57You would pump it and pump it and pump it,
17:59and then you would hit the release button.
18:02Tsssss.
18:03Head to our socials and tell us what you remember about Reebok Pumps.
18:06Earlier in the show, Robert Lee gave us a glimpse into his incredible game-worn AFL jumper collection.
18:18If you were impressed by his AFL gear, you had better take a seat
18:23because you won't believe his treasures from the NBA.
18:26Superstar players now, you're probably looking in the $7,500 to $10,000 starting point,
18:36and the collection would be in the $2.5 to $3 million price range.
18:44A large part of it is the US-based superstars,
18:46but I also have a niche side collection that is Australian guys.
18:50I also have this very cool pair of Luke Longley's playoff shoes from the 1997 season,
18:58and Luke has signed them beautifully.
19:00These are the same model Jordans that Mike wore in the flu game.
19:04As I've gone on, having stuff that has a history and a story
19:09has become something that's really a lot more fulfilling in what you collect.
19:13Sean Kemp's 1990-91 Sonics jersey.
19:17Sean was an absolute fan favourite as a kid.
19:19This is Dwayne Wade's 2004-05 jersey.
19:22He hits a half-court, buzzer beat a three, win the game.
19:25Very cool to have a piece like that.
19:27Anyone who comes to my house, whether they're interested in that stuff or not,
19:30everybody recognises that there's history in those items,
19:34and there's value in that.
19:36This one was very cool from my childhood.
19:38Larry Bird's 1990 Boston Celtics jersey.
19:42It has the famous Kelly Green with Bird 33 on the back.
19:46A lot of loose threads and nice match points on this one.
19:49I would look at photo matching as the task of evaluating whether an item is worn or not,
19:53with no other information.
19:55The basic premise of it is you find photo or video footage of something on that item that is unique.
20:01The best example of that is mesh on a basketball jersey is a unique fingerprint.
20:05The way the mesh interacts with the logos, the numbers, the names on the back.
20:09This is Hakeem Olajuwon's 89-90 Houston Rockets jersey.
20:13This one, I believe, this was worn in his quad double game,
20:16which is something only four players in the history of the NBA have done.
20:19The larger one on the back, the O sort of dipped down under that line of where the arch should be,
20:24and the N should actually be the other way around.
20:27That's all visible in footage of that game.
20:29I would never say one area of a shirt counts as a photo match.
20:33You want to match, you know, a bit of a number, a bit of the letters.
20:36If you have three or four match points like that,
20:38there's no way that anyone could have reasonably copied that exactly to that extent.
20:44If you can track down something sort of pre-2000s,
20:47the value on that, if you photo match, Magic, Larry, you know,
20:52up right through to Jordan, you're looking at hundreds of thousands of dollars into the millions sometimes.
20:57My LeBron jersey is a 2012-2013 Miami Heat home jersey.
21:05It was worn in seven games at the start of that season, and they were all wins.
21:09Given that this is a Miami shirt, he's not going to wear any more of those.
21:12I would estimate this around the $100,000 mark.
21:17For those who have followed Kobe's career, you may remember in 2012,
21:21Dwayne Wade broke his nose in the All-Star game.
21:23So he had them develop a carbon fiber black mask.
21:27He only wore it once, the League Bandit.
21:29The jersey that I have is from the game that he wore that.
21:33Another game within that road stand was played in Minnesota,
21:35and he scored his 29,000th career point.
21:39Those two things make that a very cool item.
21:42Going back to the black mask, he auctioned that after,
21:44when he was told he couldn't use it, and that went for $70,000.
21:48I would say it's got to be $250 plus, just because of those storylines.
21:52Kobe Bryant MVP shirt, that went for like $4.5 million at Sotheby's.
22:00Easily the best thing I own, and my favourite thing,
22:03is my Michael Jordan 1989-90 season red Chicago Bulls jersey.
22:10When I set out to try and find an MJ,
22:12A, I didn't think I'd ever do it,
22:14but B, the grail for me was sand knit red 80s.
22:18I just love how they were constructed, the shape of them, how they were made.
22:22Modern shirts don't have a patch on old shirts.
22:25They're just not constructed the same.
22:27They're mass produced now.
22:29These things were beautiful.
22:30And, to top that off, he wore it a hell of a lot,
22:33and in one of the games that he had,
22:35a 52 point game against Orlando in December 20, 1989.
22:44The beauty of MJ's stuff is the age of it.
22:47He played in an era where they didn't wear 1,000 shirts a year.
22:50They're very rare beasts.
22:51I would say, based on recent pricing,
22:53things that have gone on at Sotheby's,
22:55it's got to be seven figures at least.
22:57It's got to be a million dollars plus.
22:59That is the coolest thing I have and will ever own.
23:01It's worth more than my house.
23:03So, like, you know, what can you really say?
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