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00:09Is being a woman in business still a liability?
00:12You're a young woman with no experience.
00:14A woman. That's a minus.
00:16Well, of course it's a f***ing minus. I didn't make the world.
00:19As Succession's Logan Roy decides which of his four offspring
00:23might inherit his media empire throne, on paper,
00:26his smart and hardworking daughter Shiv seems like the most capable contender.
00:31But Shiv feels she's been treated differently for being a woman, and she's right.
00:35I've always thought you were the smartest.
00:38Oh, so that's why you tried Kendall and Roman first.
00:41The people in her world are open about just how much her gender is seen as a downside.
00:46She's trotted out when having a female executive is useful for a crisis or a deal,
00:50and then once that passes, again, sidelined, overlooked, mocked,
00:54or held to a higher standard than her brothers.
00:56Corporate daycare.
00:57What's up with dead bear?
01:00That's not a good retort. Don't f***ing laugh at that.
01:02In case you want it in writing.
01:04But Succession does a great job of dealing with not just
01:07how the woman dynamics realistically play out around Shiv,
01:10but also how they've shaped her psychologically.
01:13Due to the biases around her, Shiv gets less training from a young age,
01:17so at first she isn't as ready to manage as her brothers.
01:20You can't blame her for her lack of experience.
01:22Well, sure you can. Just watch. You'll get the hang of it soon enough.
01:25There's a vicious cycle at play, where she overreacts and overcompensates,
01:30copying the toxic behavior her dads modeled for the company.
01:33As a result, Shiv has been molded into an arrogant yet insecure girl boss,
01:37who not only doesn't help other women,
01:39but often weaponizes feminism in service of her family.
01:43Here's our take on how Succession uses Shiv to accurately illustrate how being marginalized
01:48as a woman or member of another outsider group can work against you,
01:52wear you down, and very much mess you up.
01:58Shiv Roy shows how contrary to how much of today's rhetoric,
02:02being a woman near the top of many work cultures is still an obstacle,
02:06but there are a lot of complicated reasons why.
02:08Don't get us wrong, as an individual,
02:10Shiv has plenty of flaws and isn't that likable.
02:13Raya is right when she says,
02:15Shiv thinks she's smarter than she is.
02:18Having grown up rich with everything handed to her,
02:20but noticed she's at least smarter than her brothers,
02:23Shiv has developed an epic level of arrogance.
02:26She's impatient for rewards without working for them,
02:29thinks she knows things before developing expertise,
02:32and displays a dangerous combination of entitlement and inexperience.
02:35Yet a lot of the problem is also Shiv's reacting to and compounding her disadvantage.
02:41One lesson Shiv internalizes is that her achievements don't count.
02:44In season three, we see her pull off a huge win that saves the family from losing the company,
02:49but her dad again denies her the credit.
02:51Then, when Roman brings in the fascist presidential candidate,
02:54Jared Menken, Logan lavishes praise on his son.
02:57You did good this weekend, son.
03:00And there's a vicious cycle at play for Shiv.
03:03The more she feels she has to prove herself and doesn't get validation,
03:06the more she feels defensive, desperate to get recognition,
03:09rather than open to receiving the training and experience she actually needs.
03:14Roman COO, you have a toddler with a hard-on for chief operating officer,
03:18and I'm going through a management training program?
03:20Shiv then gets in her way in numerous work interactions by overcompensating.
03:25Like many ambitious female precursors going back to Lady Macbeth's doomed quest to unsex herself,
03:31she feels she has to act more like a tough guy with big energy than even the boys do.
03:36But this act doesn't get her respect from the men around her, who generally don't like the level of brash
03:41assertiveness from a female executive that they tolerate in a male one.
03:45Cow's not happy with your level of input.
03:47Oh, okay. Well, f*** him, right?
03:50I don't need another toothache.
03:52Logan tends to keep Shiv more behind the scenes than her brothers.
03:56And then, even when her father does put her in formal positions of power,
03:59like when he privately chooses her as his heir or installs her as president,
04:03it's not long before he undermines that by freezing her out, having secret interactions
04:08with her brothers about major business, not backing her up,
04:11or letting her know she's on thin ice if she ever makes an error.
04:14Well, you okayed me to go in there and kick some ass, and I barely-
04:18I gave you a destination.
04:21I can't walk you there, okay?
04:23This situation, repeated over and over, has made Shiv both resentful and deeply insecure.
04:29Initially, even Shiv herself doesn't really think becoming the CEO is a possibility,
04:33so she looks to her husband, Tom, to rise in the company.
04:37Like her siblings, she's been falsely empowered by her wealth
04:40to view herself baselessly as above others.
04:43But because of her gender, she's been shamed by her father
04:46into a state where she views herself as below.
04:48As therapist Tammy Nelson told The Cut,
04:50Shiv's performance of confidence is, quote,
04:52based on sort of the internal hill of sand, because she's not confident
04:56about herself as a woman and as a worker.
04:58She looks to her father to feel confident, and when she does get moments to lead,
05:02she sometimes chokes, loses control, and makes a big gaffe.
05:05Sometimes I think you just need a good old-fashioned dinosaur cull.
05:09And who's the big T-Rex in your sights?
05:13Oh, I- no, I-
05:14Or fails to summon the confidence to meet challenges decisively.
05:18It's the sort of tough choice people need to be able to make.
05:23People who would be very senior people.
05:29I can't choose that.
05:31So if we look deeper, we can see how much Shiv and her flaws
05:34have been shaped and exacerbated by her culture's hostility
05:37toward her being a woman.
05:38In a work context, she's expected at various points
05:41to compensate for being a woman, act like she's not, use it,
05:45and sell her gender out in order to get ahead in this world.
05:48She's put at the forefront whenever there's a sensitive crisis
05:50involving women or progressive issues,
05:52culminating in her talking a sexual abuse victim
05:55out of testifying against her family.
05:57And of course, those favors, where she has to disown her woman-ness,
06:01aren't even remembered.
06:02So in order to prove to her family that her being a woman isn't an issue,
06:05she's not even allowed to truly be one.
06:08From childhood, Shiv felt the main female model in her family,
06:12her cruel mother, was grotesque.
06:14You were my onion.
06:18You are my onion.
06:19When her mother isn't physically absent,
06:21she's emotionally violent to Shiv.
06:23Truth is, I probably should never have had children.
06:29Shiv has inherited some of this, even while trying to reject her mother,
06:33and more consciously modeling herself on her narcissistic, bullying father.
06:37Ah yeah, we get it already. Stop moaning about the race.
06:41The toxic male behavior she's learned to ape from her dad
06:44and the company is taken to an extreme in her most intimate,
06:47personal relationship.
06:48She becomes a bully in her relationship with her husband Tom,
06:51making him into her punching bag,
06:53just as everyone in the Roy media empire falls somewhere on the abusive hierarchy,
06:58receiving pain from the higher-ups and passing it down.
07:01You're not good enough for me.
07:02No, I'm way out of your f***ing league.
07:04And because of the way Shiv has mistreated Tom and based their relationship on inequality,
07:08That's why you love me, even though I don't love you,
07:14he eventually feels justified betraying her to seize his own power.
07:18So overall, Shiv's toxicity is a realistic portrayal of the fact
07:22that when people are excluded due to gender, race, or other factors,
07:26this doesn't necessarily prove the adage that what doesn't kill you makes you stronger.
07:30Instead, adversity can provoke unhealthy coping habits that aren't beneficial in the long run.
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08:24SHIV is an extreme version of the self-serving girlboss type,
08:31who trades on her gender when it helps her but happily screws over other women for personal profit.
08:36But a trademark of the girlboss is secret hypocrisy,
08:40and SHIV is pretty open about her cynical self-centeredness.
08:42Deep down she's status and money obsessed, like you.
08:47One of the conflicts in SHIV's life is trying to decide whether to not be a terrible person,
08:52or just double down and embrace it.
08:54When the series begins, she's working for progressive,
08:57Bernie Sanders-esque presidential candidate Gil Evis,
09:00and she talks like she maybe wants to do something good for the world,
09:04as long as there's enough in it for her.
09:05Yet her pretenses of having morals falls away when she gets a shot at running her father's company.
09:11SHIV's conflict between her two sides plays out in the first season through her affair with Nate,
09:16who describes himself as an exciting bastard in comparison to her nice fiancé, Tom.
09:21Yeah, Tom, he's a great guy.
09:22Sure. Great guy, with the square head.
09:25Should be with an exciting bastard like me.
09:28These two men represent the two disjointed sides of SHIV.
09:31On the one hand is her arrogance.
09:33She views herself as the exciting bastard,
09:35someone who's mean yet better than everyone else.
09:37But on the other hand is her insecurity.
09:40She likes that Tom feels like a safe partner who will worship and never leave her,
09:44because she has a buried sense of inferiority.
09:47Shiv flip-flops between these selves.
09:49She frequently laments that she's not a nice or good person.
09:52You should be good people.
09:53I know.
09:56Wouldn't it be nice to just wake up in the morning and
10:00not feel like a f***ing piece of s***?
10:02But mostly comforts herself.
10:04She's at least marginally more ethical than the rest of her family,
10:07while not really behaving differently from them.
10:10You tell yourself you're a good person.
10:13But you're not a good person.
10:15In the end, neither of SHIV's opposing self-images is really true.
10:19Her affair with Nate doesn't end up being that exciting.
10:22And in the end, her nice husband Tom turns out to be not as nice or safe as she thought
10:26after he sells her out in Season 3.
10:28Her conception of herself as an ultra-talented bastard is likewise proven false.
10:33She makes a fair number of mistakes when actually given a shot in the business,
10:36and interestingly, in Season 3, she surprises herself
10:39when she draws a line at helping a fascist presidential candidate.
10:43So it turns out she kind of does have a few principles, after all.
10:46Mencken is an integralist, nativist f***head.
10:49He is toxic.
10:50More centrally, in her reconciliation with her brothers in the Season 3 finale,
10:54we also see the beginnings of a desire to openly communicate emotions in a positive sense.
11:00This is something SHIV is historically terrible at.
11:02Her wedding speech is a cringey showcase of how hard it is for her to actually show emotion,
11:07and she chooses her wedding night to tell her husband she wants an open relationship.
11:10We have a plan, but in terms of the relationship,
11:13I'm just wondering if there's an opportunity for something different from the whole
11:17Fox at Death March.
11:18When she discusses having children with him, she's not only terribly unromantic about it,
11:23What did you mean, about the baby?
11:24Yeah, we should freeze at least.
11:26But also, Audley jumps to discussing divorce and comas.
11:29It's different if one of us dies or is in a long-term coma.
11:32You know, I don't just automatically get them if we divorce,
11:34or something like that, if that's the thing that concerns you.
11:37And she repeatedly tells Tom she doesn't love him,
11:40but in ways that makes us wonder if she almost does,
11:43or would if she could love anyone that way.
11:46You know, Tom, I may not love you, but I do love you.
11:51So it's a big step in the season finale when she awkwardly tries to participate
11:55in unsarcastically being there for a suffering Kendall.
11:58Hey, buddy.
12:00Hey, you okay?
12:02Well, it's okay.
12:04And an even bigger one when she suggests the siblings start saying the tough things
12:09out loud to each other.
12:10You know Dad is never gonna choose you,
12:12because he thinks there's something wrong with you.
12:16And I'm sorry, but maybe it's time that we said these things to each other.
12:18As the siblings try for the first time to truly band together into season four,
12:22not creating a binary between niceness and ambition could be Shiv's only chance
12:27to transcend her self-destructive pattern of being both hyper-arrogant and hyper-insecure.
12:32Her road to becoming a more mature and actually more successful adult may be tapping into that
12:38nice side of her, but not as a compromise or a settling the way she's always seen it.
12:43She just needs to have some equal human relationships, which can be both loving and
12:48honest. Shiv has to learn not to base her self-esteem on the approval of her father,
12:53the ultimate patriarchal figure who will never be able to see her separate from the minus of
12:58her being a woman. She can't help how her world sees her gender, but she can potentially learn to
13:03stop making the woman thing become an extra problem to herself.
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