Taylor Swift & The Power Of Starting Over In Your 30s

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00:00It's official, Taylor Swift and Joe Alwyn have broken up.

00:03Though neither have commented on the news yet,

00:05rumors have been swirling with sources close to the couple stating that the split had already happened weeks ago.

00:11So what does this mean for Taylor's eras, and the new era of her personal life that she's embarking on?

00:16The sadness that has met this news comes from the fact that this one felt like the one.

00:21Taylor has always dotted her music with easter eggs about the men coming and going in her life,

00:26but Joe has been firmly entwined in the Taylor Cinematic Universe since the Reputation era.

00:31Not a special guest, but a main character.

00:33As she moves on from what she believed was a permanent union,

00:36it's a difficult experience many can relate to, especially in this era of life.

00:41So how do you start again in your 30s,

00:43when maybe you and everyone else expected you to be done with dating and new romantic experiences?

00:49Theoretically, when you're in the lavender haze, you'll do anything to stay there.

00:53Here's our take on the end of the Taylor and Joe era, and where she might go next.

01:00Taylor Swift is in the middle of her eras tour,

01:02a three-hour-plus career retrospective that takes each of her albums as its own unique era,

01:07with its own unique style, color palette, and theme.

01:10But within those eras, we could say that there's been a wider Joe Alwyn era,

01:15one that started with reputation, lasting through to now.

01:17What was so interesting was how immediately different this era felt from that which preceded it.

01:23The Reputation era was Taylor almost leaning into being the villain,

01:26metaphorically killing off the old Taylor,

01:29and crafting a record all about drama, fame, and conflict.

01:32It also included a number of love songs to Joe.

01:35When Lover came out, it was clear she was in a different space,

01:38exemplified by the sunny, summery lightness of London Boy,

01:41the song most explicitly about Joe and their burgeoning relationship.

01:45Was this supposed to be all in one day?

01:47And if so, how does Taylor Swift get around it?

01:49Do you have an Oyster card?

01:50This is supposed to be over the course of three years.

01:53This signaled a period of creative evolution for Taylor.

01:56Her pandemic-influenced albums Folklore and Evermore were, by the same score,

02:00a return to her storytelling songwriter roots, but also a push beyond her comfort zone.

02:05The vulnerability that she showed in the lyrics on Lover was now present in the music, too.

02:10She was more stripped back than ever,

02:11and Joe was now not simply a character in her songs,

02:14but a collaborator in her creative process.

02:17William Bowery is Joe, as we know.

02:20Exile was crazy because Joe had written that entire piano part.

02:24Comparatively, this era has lasted a long time.

02:26Lover, Folklore, Evermore, and Midnights may all be distinct albums,

02:30but they each have this touch of the new Taylor about them.

02:33The exhuming and re-recording of her older records also happened during this era,

02:37and have seen her push beyond simply being a songwriter.

02:40After directing the video for All Too Well,

02:42she's now developing her first feature as a writer-director.

02:45I like the idea of you picking him up and just kind of looking at him,

02:49like, warily, and just watching him for a second,

02:52and we'll film your clothes with that.

02:54All of these creative swings have Joe's fingerprints on them in some way.

02:57That's not to give him credit for Taylor's songwriting genius,

03:00but rather to illustrate how intertwined they became.

03:03You've written some of the saddest songs of your career together.

03:06We write the saddest songs.

03:07Often with artists, it's drama and sadness that are lionized as the great muses,

03:12but here, perhaps it was the safety offered by the stability of being in a long-term loving relationship,

03:17one that was rumored to be headed for the altar,

03:19that allowed her to try all these different ideas and take these big swings.

03:23This could be really weird, and we could hate this.

03:26We just try to see what it's like if we write this song together.

03:29By all accounts, their breakup was mutual and amicable,

03:31but the question still remains, what's next?

03:37Taylor Swift isn't the only high-profile woman now having to navigate this romantic re-beginning in the public eye.

03:43Emily Radoshkowski and husband Sebastian Bear-McClared abruptly split in 2022,

03:48and with them, there's a baby in the mix as well.

03:50But in talking about her breakup, we can begin to glean what this reset might feel like.

03:55Speaking to Variety, Emrata said,

03:57I'm newly single for basically the first time in my life ever,

04:00and I just feel like I'm kind of enjoying the freedom of not being super worried about how I'm being perceived.

04:05I really do think that I stayed in those relationships to be protective,

04:08and like to not have to deal with what it was like to be single.

04:11Culture tells us that breakups are difficult at the best of times,

04:14but breakups in your 30s, particularly for women,

04:17are often seen as a completely separate kind of tragedy.

04:20We've talked about the 30 crisis before,

04:22and how much of that is brought on by this cultural pressure to settle down and start a family.

04:27According to Match.com, most women meet their soulmates when they're 25.

04:31Taylor met Joe when she was 27,

04:33but still, you're often made to feel like you've hit a chute and gone right back to square one,

04:38just when the finish line was in sight.

04:40But I don't want this to end.

04:41No, I don't want it to end either.

04:42I can't believe this is going to end.

04:44But isn't this attitude kind of old-fashioned now?

04:46The idea of meeting your partner in your mid-20s and settling down in your 30s

04:50harks back to a day when women weren't afforded the freedoms they are now.

04:54Taylor and Joe's breakup will undoubtedly be sad and something they'll mourn,

04:58but the relationship may have simply run its course.

05:01That doesn't mean that the last six years of her life gets erased,

05:03or that those songs from that era get swept away.

05:06They may now be imbued with even greater emotion.

05:09Their life may be even longer.

05:10So rather than breakups in your 30s being endings,

05:18maybe they should be thought of as new beginnings.

05:20This might be the first time that a breakup really feels like it matters.

05:24But also it's the first time when you have the clarity and certainty of self,

05:27to really see it from all angles,

05:29to reflect on the relationship and take what was good from it into who you become.

05:33We as fans might be wondering,

05:34where could she possibly go from here?

05:36But maybe that wondering should be imbued,

05:38not with fear, but with curiosity.

05:40And maybe even some excitement.

05:42Taylor's era's tour is a celebration of her career,

05:48but you could also see it as an ending itself.

05:50Rolling Stone described it as a victory lap,

05:53so in that sense, she was already preparing for her next race.

05:56We're going to be exploring the last 17 years of music

06:00that I've been lucky enough to make and who have been kind enough to care about.

06:03What's maybe quite exciting is that Taylor knows how to write a killer breakup album.

06:08ID's Tom George called Taylor's Red Gen Z-er's first big breakup album.

06:12And announcing the re-release of the record, Taylor wrote,

06:15Musically and lyrically, Red resembled a heartbroken person.

06:18It was all over the place,

06:19a fractured mosaic of feelings that somehow all fit together in the end.

06:23If you're going to be in my life,

06:24I feel like there's a certain amount that comes with it

06:27that I can't stop from happening.

06:29And it's telling that amongst Swifties,

06:31All Too Well is perhaps the most beloved of Taylor Swift's songs,

06:35an almost operatic breakup narrative,

06:36full of textbook Taylor flourishes,

06:39that then took on a whole new lore

06:41when the 10-minute version was released,

06:43complete with short film accompaniment.

06:44Lindsay Zolads writes,

06:46All Too Well is about a young woman's attempt

06:48to find retroactive equilibrium

06:50in a relationship that was based on a power imbalance

06:53that she was not at first able to perceive.

06:56So rather than being simply about the breakup,

06:58it's about what you can learn from a breakup.

07:00It was rare, I was there.

07:03The other thing about Red is that it's seen as a kind of transitional phase

07:07from the country-tinged singer-songwriter

07:09to the stadium-filling pop artist

07:11and the critical acclaim that emerged with 1989.

07:14Are we about to see a similar transition?

07:16We've seen artists like Rihanna and Beyonce approach their 30s

07:19and pause music altogether to move into other arenas.

07:22It's tempting to think of new phases like breakups

07:25as a spoke in the wheel of progress,

07:27but this doesn't fit with the Taylor we know.

07:29Yes, it's heartbreaking.

07:30Yes, it's unexpected.

07:31Yes, it's an ending.

07:32But it's a beginning, too.

07:34Tonight we're going to be going on an adventure.

07:36One era at a time.

07:38The creative sparks that come from being an established artist in your 30s

07:42combined with Taylor's preternatural ability

07:44to capture and distill difficult emotions into her music

07:47means that whatever she does next,

07:48it could be her most interesting era yet.

07:52That's the take.

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