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00:00This brings us to Joe Shane, okay?

00:02And I've got some news for you on Joe Shane.

00:04I don't know if this is going to make you happy,

00:05or it's going to make the fans happy, or not.

00:08But Joe Shane will, as this is according to John Mara,

00:12he will lead the search for a new head coach.

00:15Ian Rappaport has just reported this.

00:17He will remain in his position as general manager,

00:19will lead the search for a new head coach.

00:21Joe Mara said this, and I'm going to read you this quote here, Adriana.

00:24We feel like Joe has assembled a good young nucleus of talent,

00:27and we look forward to its development.

00:28Unfortunately, the results over the past three years

00:31have not been what any of us want.

00:33We take full responsibility for those results

00:36and look forward to the kind of success our fans expect.

00:41How do you react to the news that Joe Shane

00:43will lead the search for the next head coach,

00:47despite your lack of confidence in it?

00:50And also, do you think that is the right move

00:53for the Giants here to pair Joe Shane

00:55with whoever will be the next head coach of the franchise?

01:00I'm not surprised, because I kind of figured

01:03that they were going to do that.

01:04And I think that's why there's been articles

01:07and different things.

01:08It happened last year, and it's happened this year so far.

01:12Basically, to prepare the fan base

01:14that we'll fire the coaching staff,

01:16but we're keeping the GM.

01:17In my opinion, it's not the right move.

01:20I don't like the idea of forcing a head coach onto a GM.

01:25And I think with Gable and Shane, it was,

01:27OK, well, they have experience.

01:28They've worked together.

01:29They have a good relationship.

01:30They're coming in at the same time.

01:32And while I don't think you have to say,

01:34well, if they don't get along anymore,

01:36then you have to fire them both,

01:37I think it's more of the fact that we've

01:42seen different versions of Joe Shane.

01:45And I think if you watch Hard Knocks,

01:46and I don't know how other GMs or other people

01:49in the league feel about him, but I think

01:52he rubbed some people the wrong way

01:53with what we saw on Hard Knocks.

01:55And that's what concerns me, that you could say,

01:57well, they have Jackson Dart, Malik Neighbors,

01:59and Dexter Lawrence, and yada, yada.

02:00And they have this talent.

02:01And, you know, they just need a good coach.

02:07And that will be enough to bring in a good head coach.

02:09But they're still going to have to work

02:10very closely with Joe Shane.

02:12And I think there have been a lot of bad

02:14roster decisions that have gone on in this

02:17organization since Joe Shane has been GM.

02:19And we can talk about one as easily as the fact

02:22that they repeatedly tell us over and over

02:24that they play players based on their talent

02:29and abilities, not where they were drafted

02:32or how much money they make.

02:33But that's not true.

02:34Because Russell Wilson is quarterback two of this team.

02:37And we have seen when he has come into the game

02:40that the head coach doesn't let him throw the ball,

02:42which was exactly what happened with Tommy DeVito

02:44a couple years ago.

02:46And the one thing I want to see Kafka do

02:48is make James Winston quarterback one,

02:50because I know we're not seeing Jackson Dart on Sunday.

02:52And it's decisions like that.

02:54It's the fact that, you know, last week,

02:56Lil' Jordan Humphrey, who spent all summer

02:59practicing with Jackson Dart,

03:00and they had a great rapport.

03:02You instead elevate Ray Ray McLeod,

03:04who came out of nowhere and has barely practiced

03:06with them.

03:07Gunnar Olszewski is stepping in as your wide receiver

03:09instead of Amir Smith-Marset,

03:11who got a ton of snaps this whole summer

03:13with Jackson Dart and James Winston.

03:15It's things like that.

03:16It's keeping Evan Neal on this football team

03:19when he's useless and inactive nine out of 10 weeks.

03:22Jalen Hyatt is active on Sunday,

03:24doesn't play a single snap.

03:25But, you know, they traded up for him.

03:30So he has to stay here.

03:32So I don't like a lot of the roster moves

03:33that have been made.

03:34So you haven't liked a lot of the roster moves

03:36with Shane.

03:37And I gleaned from you saying all that, Adriana,

03:40that if you had it your way, right,

03:42and you were John Mara,

03:44you would have given Joe Shane the boot today as well, too,

03:48or at least at the end of the season?

03:49Is that, you would have just gone and cleaned house

03:52and went in a completely new GM and new coach, correct?

03:57Yes.

03:57The reason why is this is because I like Brandon Brown,

04:00who's the assistant GM.

04:02But the biggest question that I have about Brandon Brown,

04:05because he has reiterated some of the same sentiment

04:07as Joe Shane,

04:08is would he make any roster moves differently

04:11throughout the season?

04:12And that's what I would want to know

04:13if he was promoted to GM for the next seven weeks.

04:16Would we see a little Jordan Humphrey elevation?

04:20Would we see Evan Neal cut?

04:21Would Jalen Hyatt have been traded?

04:23Would Taye Banks have been traded?

04:25Because it was reported that the Colts reached out

04:27to the Giants about Taye Banks,

04:29and he's still on this roster,

04:31and he's not a very good football player for the Giants.

04:33So that's what I would wonder is,

04:36would anything change if Brandon Brown was the GM

04:39for the rest of the season?

04:41Yeah, it's interesting,

04:42because even when I was talking to Mike Vicarra before you,

04:44we know that the Giants have always wanted stability, right?

04:47They don't really want to be making all these changes

04:49to coaches or with the GM.

04:51And I thought maybe,

04:53just maybe,

04:54John Mara might say,

04:55all right,

04:56we're going to wait this out.

04:57The seat's a little bit hot for Joe Shane.

04:59And, you know,

05:00maybe there's a little fire around him.

05:02We'll make a decision at the end of the season.

05:03I think the fact that this comes out now

05:05is very interesting,

05:07following the firing of Dayball,

05:08that John Mara came out,

05:09has a statement,

05:10and has said,

05:11hey,

05:12this guy's going to be with us.

05:13He's going to hire the new head coach.

05:15Now,

05:16that's done.

05:17He's going to hire the new head coach.

05:19We get all that.

05:20How long of a rope should Joe Shane get?

05:23Is the real next question to me, right?

05:25Is it just next season?

05:26They're not,

05:27he's not going to,

05:28you know,

05:28let's say whoever the new head coach is,

05:30just to spitball out here.

05:32Let's say he starts next season.

05:33I'm not wishing this on you,

05:34Adriana,

05:35the West of the Giants fan base.

05:36But let's say he starts,

05:38let's say the coach starts the season 0-5.

05:40Are we then blaming Joe Shane for hiring the wrong coach?

05:43And like,

05:44is the rope fair for Joe Shane?

05:46Does he deserve that?

05:47I mean,

05:47deserve has nothing to do with it,

05:48as I like to say sometimes.

05:49But how much of a rope are they going to give Joe Shane?

05:52And is that a concern?

05:53Is that part of the reason of what you're saying,

05:55why sometimes you just want to cut date

05:57and have,

05:58you know,

05:59new GM,

05:59new coach,

06:00whole new regime come in?

06:02I just,

06:03I don't know.

06:04it's not really a question kind of thing,

06:06trying to figure this out out loud.

06:07I don't know if that's necessarily the right move.

06:10And I can understand where some fans are going to criticize that.

06:15So I guess this is what I'll say.

06:17And to ask you as a question of what you think as a fan,

06:20what do you think you need to see from Joe Shane in the next,

06:25I don't want to say the year,

06:27just through the off season.

06:29Let's just go through that through the off season.

06:30So go through the off season towards the NFL draft.

06:32He absolutely needs to hit again,

06:34but what do you need to see from him for you to say,

06:37okay,

06:37the seat's no longer hot for Mr.

06:39Joe Shane.

06:41That's a good question because,

06:43you know,

06:43like you said,

06:44the draft and free agency are going to be really important.

06:47The thing that I'm worried about now is that you're giving another year

06:51to a GM and free agency spending.

06:54Now it's not,

06:55I always joke.

06:56It's not my money.

06:57I don't care about the cap.

06:58Like you guys figured out who kept paid to do it.

07:01But there are certain guys that I would resign and certain guys that I would

07:04not resign.

07:05And I hope if Joe,

07:08this is what I want to see.

07:09I want to see him resign some of the key players that have played well.

07:12That means Micah McFadden,

07:13Daniel Bellinger,

07:15Cordell Flott,

07:16Jermaine Illuminor,

07:17keep some of the good talent in house because we have seven draft picks and we

07:21don't have a third round pick this year because we traded it for dart.

07:23So we have to focus on retaining good talent and not being afraid to trade

07:30players just because they are Joe Shane draft picks.

07:33If he traded Taye Banks,

07:35if he cuts Evan Neal,

07:36if he trades or cuts Jalen Hyatt,

07:39if he can cut ties with some of the players that he has specifically picked

07:44who are not playing well,

07:45who are not a part of this football team and are not contributing,

07:48that would make me feel like,

07:50okay,

07:51maybe he's willing to do something different this year.

07:54And I've said that.

07:55I think he's learned a little bit from his mistakes.

07:57He learned that not resigning Xavier McKinney was a problem.

08:00And he learned it the hard way because then he had to go sign Javon

08:03Hollins and he had to draft Tyler Newbin.

08:05So,

08:06you know,

08:06I think he's learned in some respects,

08:08but to me,

08:09that would be really important.

08:11Like,

08:11okay,

08:11he's not just saying,

08:12well,

08:12this is my guy.

08:13I drafted him.

08:14We have to keep it.

08:15Yeah,

08:16no,

08:16I,

08:17that,

08:17that is interesting.

08:18We did have a poll in the chat asking people if they thought

08:21keeping Joe Shane on was the right move.

08:2386% of the people have said no.

08:25So a lot of people are not team Joe Shane right now at,

08:30at all whatsoever.

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