Sister Wives Season 20 Episode 6

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00:00That's oh boy this move what a show it's gonna be a dance all day

00:08I

00:13Just feel like I just must be a bad mom

00:16No, you're not a bad mom. They all have to grow up

00:21Christina's on a homesteader. She just wants to live in in her very comfortable house in the suburbs

00:26There's nothing about North Carolina that draws me except for my children

00:31Selling Coyote Pass became a reality for us for me and Robin only when we we discovered we really wanted this other house

00:39You know, there's a there's a pressure to do everything. It's just bing bong boom

00:47So a relative asked you if we were still into plural marriage, what'd you say?

00:52I don't want to speak for you

00:54This five years have been the five years that my family has just eroded crumbled and moved on you haven't seen Jack

01:03For what happened?

01:05I don't know Rick

01:08You

01:11You

01:13I don't know

01:14You

01:15I don't know

01:15You

01:16Hey, get the crystal out.

01:37Well, I need to put it into the china hut.

01:39Nice.

01:40Rob and I just barely moved, and we will be moving in for a while.

01:46Hey, just got back from Coyote Pass.

01:47How'd it go?

01:49Good.

01:50Looked like they love the property.

01:51They know which ones they want, but they're like, do we want that too?

01:54So I'm pretty sure we're going to get an offer on at least two lots,

01:59and maybe they're open to the whole thing.

02:01Really?

02:02Who knows?

02:03I mean, like when I say who knows, they're just,

02:06the behavior was very positive about everything.

02:08It's so crazy we haven't even listed it yet.

02:11Justin said this is a for sure deal for some of it.

02:16It's really hard for me to let it go.

02:25Part of the whole thing of letting it go is also, I think,

02:30me having to accept that everything that we had built as a family,

02:35our family's situation is gone.

02:37Robin's a very special person who feels very deeply.

02:46And Robin's not one of these people to shuck off a feeling.

02:50She feels it, and she sits in that feeling.

02:56So they didn't really give you an offer exactly?

02:58No, they told us what they wanted.

03:00For whatever reason, it is still a struggle for her to let go of it,

03:05even if it's going to help us manage buying the place we're in.

03:13I've got to do a conference with Mary and Janelle.

03:15I text them both.

03:17I've got to make it official, because I think we're going to get an offer soon.

03:19Wow.

03:19All right?

03:20Cool, huh?

03:20Crazy.

03:21I've heard that Mary and Janelle are really concerned about fairness

03:25and whether or not Cody's going to be fair.

03:27Cody, on a bad day, is thinking unfairly.

03:30But on his good days, he's already thinking being fair.

03:35I wish I could, and I have said this to them.

03:39Well, I have said to Mary, you know, like, you don't need to worry.

03:42I'm going to make sure.

03:44If I have any say over this, I'm going to make sure this is fair.

03:48You know, the two of them wanting more, something more, something more,

03:52more, more, more, more, is always a concern, potentially.

03:55I'm still trusting.

03:56And my expectation is, is that when everything's settled

04:00and they get their 25%, that they're going to be satisfied.

04:02But that doesn't mean that they're not going to come back and say,

04:05hey, I want more, or I want this, or I want that.

04:07I just don't know.

04:09Yeah, you'll get your 25%, but just leave me alone after that, okay?

04:18David and I are just going out tonight.

04:21A lovely date.

04:22We're going to go to Cucina Toscana.

04:23It's one of our favorite restaurants.

04:25Thanks, babe.

04:28I love monogamy.

04:29I love that David's here every morning and every evening,

04:32and it's just so easy.

04:36I'm feeling comfortable with you.

04:38I think I just like the simpleness of our life.

04:41I thought it was my favorite.

04:42That we just, you come home every night,

04:44and you'll sit in the kitchen while I make dinner,

04:46and then in the morning we have coffee together.

04:49That's my favorite.

04:50Yeah, that's what I was looking at, too,

04:52is the normalcy of having a partner to interact, do things.

04:58How does that compare to being in a polygamous lifestyle versus me?

05:04I realized that I was a keeping score kind of a person.

05:08It's embarrassing when I realize how focused I was on Cody.

05:11I don't like that I was even doing that,

05:14and bothered.

05:15That was frustrating for me.

05:17I think any human being is going to keep score at some level,

05:23and I've definitely been there.

05:25I definitely have been there.

05:27You know, no, my life was so busy.

05:28It was too exhausting to be worried about where Cody was

05:31and what everybody else was doing,

05:33and I just, you know, I mean, was it perfect?

05:36Like, I sometimes, I would get frustrated sometimes

05:38when I felt like the time had been uneven.

05:39So now there's no...

05:41Well, there's no jealousy.

05:43No, there's no jealousy.

05:44There's no competition, keeping score.

05:46Even when you talk about Margaret, it's great.

05:48Yeah.

05:48I want you to have love before me.

05:50You know, I want you to feel that way.

05:51Well, we did have both of us had a relationship before.

05:54Yeah.

05:54I'm not jealous.

05:55I'm bad of Cody.

05:56No, I love that I can talk about Cody

05:58and you can talk about Margaret.

05:59It doesn't matter.

05:59There's no jealousy there.

06:00Even though you have said Cody.

06:04You made me mad.

06:06What was that?

06:07You did something.

06:08I remember it was, was it Peyton that was right there?

06:12And I'm like, Cody.

06:13And you're like, whoa.

06:17Cody's just a mess up.

06:19But David's like, oh crap, I'm in trouble.

06:21And then it's like, Christine.

06:22And you're like, oh crap.

06:24I know, same.

06:25Same.

06:25When you call me Christine, I'm like, God, what?

06:27What?

06:27Have you called me Margaret before too?

06:34In a loving way.

06:35Just once or twice.

06:36Mad.

06:37I've called you Margaret before, yeah.

06:38Uh-huh, yeah.

06:40Yeah.

06:40And it's weird because she's been gone for almost 14 years.

06:44Yeah.

06:44And it's weird because it's not on my brain constantly.

06:46But it's a marital situation.

06:50Yeah.

06:50I go through all the kids' names.

06:52Yeah, that's what it is.

06:54I go through all of his wife's names.

06:55No, not really.

06:56He didn't.

06:57I, he, very.

06:58Did you say Janelle?

06:59No.

07:00Robin?

07:00Mary?

07:01Uh-oh.

07:01What do you think?

07:01Very rarely do you call me the wrong name.

07:03Cody would rarely slip up and call us the wrong name.

07:07There's certain moments where you don't want to hear another woman's name.

07:10You know those moments I'm talking about?

07:12Never happened.

07:12I heard it happening in other plural families.

07:16Like it's their name thing.

07:18Don't need to go into it that much.

07:19That would be terrible.

07:21I would catch myself a lot and I've certainly done it.

07:24But I had a way of starting it sometimes and then pivoting.

07:29Well, and I'd be sitting down with Robin and I'd, well, Jit, Nell usually doesn't think

07:34that.

07:36You know?

07:37I almost can't stop laughing at the idea that there are certain times when you do not want

07:43to say the wrong wife's name.

07:48You know, I think calling people the wrong name is universal.

07:54I often will call Jen, Janelle or Christine.

07:59How is it with your, since you and I've been together with the other ex-sister wives?

08:04Janelle's great.

08:06Is that what you're talking about?

08:07Oh, you want to talk about the other two?

08:13I feel betrayed by Robin.

08:15Just betrayed.

08:16I felt like I could never really trust her.

08:19Ever.

08:20You know, there's things I confided in her and then she would tell Cody and I'd get in

08:24trouble.

08:25I couldn't trust her.

08:27There was just a couple times where I trusted her and I would tell her things that I thought

08:31were incompetence.

08:33And then I'd get in trouble for them and Cody would get mad.

08:36I can't trust her.

08:38So I stopped confiding in her.

08:40Well, I think it's really common that Robin was always advocating for Christine and all

08:45my other wives.

08:46She wanted all those relationships to be good.

08:48Christine would say to me, I wish Cody would know this.

08:51I wish Cody would understand this.

08:53I'm struggling with this.

08:54Me being kind of a naive fool, I thought I could help.

08:57But I should have just stayed out of it completely.

09:00Robin messed with my head.

09:02I cut it off.

09:02Robin and Mary messed with me.

09:04I cut it off.

09:04I remember she called me on time and she's like, are we going to have a friendship?

09:09I want to be friends.

09:10And I said, girl, you were mean to me two months ago.

09:13You were mean.

09:14No.

09:15I'm like, I'm not going to be friends with you.

09:17Here's the thing.

09:18Through the years, we have all been involved in hurts and disappointments.

09:24She knows, she knows, she says she doesn't know, but she knows.

09:28I'm not going to have a friendship with people who are going to do me harm and who are going

09:31to do others harm that I love.

09:33I would love to be closer to Robin's kids.

09:35As they get older, if they reach out, I would love a relationship with them.

09:41Yeah.

09:42You know, because I didn't never intended to end it with Robin's kids.

09:45With her, yes.

09:46I was done.

09:47But no, they're kids.

09:49I don't know.

09:51I'm a person that I like to be able to think that we can all get along in this world.

09:57We talked about just doing a trip and seeing who wanted to come, leaving it open.

10:02Whoever wants to come, you can come, but having it be a reunion.

10:04I think we need to have a reunion every year.

10:07Janelle and I will be there eventually, maybe everybody together at a reunion.

10:12Eventually, everybody does need to get together.

10:13And I don't know what that looks like.

10:14And I don't know what that would take.

10:15Would it take therapy?

10:16I don't know.

10:17There's a lot of toxicity in this family.

10:23A lot.

10:24There's a lot of crap talk.

10:26There's a lot of nasty behavior back and forth.

10:30I just don't think that throwing us together in a room and seeing what happens, I mean, that's

10:35just like, it's a bad idea.

10:43Robin and I can sell ours and you two can sell yours.

10:46But they're wanting both of them.

10:47If we're working together, we'll get this sold.

10:50Are they considering that?

10:51Or are you just being hopeful?

10:52They have expected me to do all the work added to that complaint.

10:55Oh, is he trying to rob us?

10:57Right now, I'm going to go sit down and video chat with Mary and Janelle and basically give

11:10them the good news and essentially ask permission.

11:13Janelle, are we good to go?

11:14You guys want to sell?

11:15I've had mutual friends with Janelle and Mary and lawyers and anybody giving advice saying,

11:25when you finish this property, all of you need to just say, we're done.

11:29Goodbye.

11:29So Kobe's like, I got to have this phone call and I'm like, do I need to be there?

11:33He's like, probably not.

11:36Okay, great.

11:37I don't, it's just, it's too heartbreaking.

11:41It puts me in a bad place.

11:46Hey guys, how's it going?

11:48Good.

11:50Good, how are you?

11:51I'm good.

11:52So we've got, what's going on?

11:55Anything exciting?

11:59Mary, how's the B&B doing?

12:01It looks different.

12:02It's the same.

12:04Really?

12:07Hey, look, it's your dog, Mary.

12:11I know, it's my dog.

12:13Zona.

12:14Zona.

12:16Zona.

12:18Zona.

12:21I don't know what happened with Mary because I remember helping her move to her place in

12:27Parowan, Utah.

12:28And it was all fun and games and cordial.

12:31Whoa, stop.

12:33Is this awkward?

12:35Stop.

12:36Is this awkward?

12:37I'm so sorry.

12:38I should have punched you in the mouth.

12:42And since then to now, it's got weird as, I can't even say words about how weird it's gotten.

12:51I just had to draw some really hard boundaries.

12:55And when we get on this video call and he's being all friendly and trying to act like things

13:00are normal after some of the things that he has said to and about me and my friends, that's

13:07not going to fly.

13:08All right.

13:09How's it going, Janelle?

13:10Good.

13:11Everything's good.

13:12So have you heard any good jokes lately?

13:15I live with children.

13:22They don't tell very funny and very funny jokes.

13:25I live with children and they tell funny jokes.

13:28Mine are younger.

13:28They're younger here, I think.

13:37Cody gets on and he's all friendly.

13:39Like, we're just picking up where we left off and I'm like, okay, I think it could have

13:43been him just trying to like break the ice.

13:46I don't know.

13:47All right.

13:47Well, you guys will like this.

13:48I've got some good news.

13:51So Justin had a customer that came looking for property.

13:55They kind of made a subtle verbal offer on all four lots.

14:01And I just told Justin that that wasn't going to work.

14:05It was too low.

14:06And so they offered full asking price on basically what we thought was the market value of two

14:13lots, which Robin and I own one of them and you two own the other.

14:18And so it's full asking price, $125 per acre.

14:22Do the math.

14:24Great.

14:25Robin and I are on one and Mary and Janelle will be on the other because that's an easy

14:30quick claim.

14:31But I'm currently on it.

14:32We're just working out the paperwork.

14:34Really?

14:35Is this a potential?

14:37And also the frustrating part of it is, oh, so now that it's a potential, now you're interested

14:43in separating the pieces of property.

14:46I'm sort of just withholding any kind of emotional commitment or judgment because I'll believe

14:52it when I see it.

14:52Like when I see the paper and I actually sign it, I'll be like, okay, woohoo.

14:58Robin and I can sell ours and you two can sell yours.

15:00But they're wanting both of them.

15:02If we're working together, we'll get this sold.

15:04Great.

15:04They have expected me to do all the work, clean it up and get it sold and get the deeds

15:11swapped out.

15:14They haven't done anything to help that.

15:16I've offered to help pay for people to help do the cleanup.

15:22I've offered to have my lawyer draw up the paperwork so everybody just had to go in and

15:26sign it.

15:27I've done everything I can.

15:28I don't have any legal ability to do the work.

15:32Or I would have.

15:33Trust me, I would have.

15:35I don't own the property.

15:37I cannot legally make any changes to it.

15:40All they've done is complained about me not doing it and added to that complaint, oh, is

15:49he trying to rob us?

15:50When I left Cody, I thought that we'd be able to get together.

16:01Even at one point, he was like, we talked about the next guy that would come in my life

16:06and he was worried that the next guy would come in my life and take all of the family

16:10money and things like that.

16:11I was like, I just hope the next guy's nice to Truly and all.

16:14But anyway.

16:15I'm nice.

16:16She's mean to me.

16:17I know.

16:18I know.

16:18But I told him, I'm like, I would love it if you guys could become friends.

16:26We could be mutual.

16:27We could be cool with each other.

16:28You and Cody could hang out.

16:29Yeah.

16:30Would you hang out with Cody?

16:34Sure.

16:36My daughter lives in David's house.

16:38I should know David.

16:40Yeah.

16:41That should be something.

16:42I should know him.

16:42I should have the right, should have had the right even, to discriminate David.

16:48It bothered me on how everything ended.

16:52Yeah.

16:52The way it is.

16:53There's no right way and wrong way on how things end.

16:56Anything sucks.

16:57But is it possible?

16:58Can things be fixed to a certain point?

17:01I think so.

17:04I don't know.

17:05We're going to be in each other's lives for the rest of our lives because of our kids.

17:07Yeah.

17:08We just are.

17:08You guys want to go on a trip together?

17:16Well, I don't know about that.

17:22I was thinking more like riding in his, like, his ATV or whatever.

17:27No, I want to take him riding on the razor.

17:29He'd have to wear his big boy panties.

17:40No, it'd be fun.

17:41Yeah, I'd have a good time with you.

17:42He's a good, the thing is, is this.

17:43Cody is a good man.

17:44He is a good person.

17:46And we had a lot of good times.

17:49And going back and remembering that is super, super important.

17:53And he would have a blast with you.

17:54He'd have so much fun with you and Moab.

17:58You'd have so much fun with him.

18:00You guys can go.

18:01I don't need to be there.

18:05By hanging out with him doesn't mean I'm condoning what his actions are.

18:08Because of a father, I see things differently.

18:12We all have friends.

18:12I behave differently.

18:13I react differently.

18:15We all have friends that we're with that we don't condone their actions necessarily.

18:18It doesn't mean you end things.

18:20No.

18:21Well, I think that you guys having your relationship is a good thing.

18:25It doesn't mean you're condoning his actions, no.

18:27And nor does it mean that you're going to be brother-husbands.

18:30Brother-husband?

18:30What the heck?

18:36Brother-husbands.

18:37Okay.

18:37I was sister-wives.

18:38That's gone a little too far.

18:43That's not cool.

18:44Because the term sister-wives gets used a lot, it just became a joke that brother-husbands

18:54would get used a lot.

18:55I think that it's so infrequent culturally that, like, guys don't work that way usually.

19:03I think when you ask Mary Janelle, Christine, and Robin this question,

19:08most of them barely want a husband.

19:11They wouldn't ever want two.

19:14I think Janelle's been asked this question.

19:16She's like, I don't have to deal with Cody half the time.

19:18No, I would not like another husband, period, please.

19:21No.

19:22Christine, I can actually, here, this is Christine.

19:24I'm going to quote her.

19:25Another husband?

19:26Oh, God, no.

19:28David and Cody are not brother-husbands.

19:30No.

19:31That was just a silly term.

19:33Ha-ha.

19:33That's a joke.

19:35Ha-ha.

19:35No.

19:36Cody called.

19:41He said that somebody wants a couple pieces of the property.

19:43Does your money ever go into his hands?

19:45It better not go through his hands.

19:56You know, you're looking for closure in a relationship when it's gone bad

19:59and when it's just no longer even existent.

20:03You're just looking for closure.

20:06So the property closes, they get paid, and we're done with Coyote Pass.

20:15It'll be a memory, but we'll be moving on.

20:19By the time the offer comes in, it could be for the whole thing.

20:22But I don't know what to expect.

20:26Are they considering that, or are you just being hopeful?

20:29They low-balled.

20:30It's beautiful.

20:31I mean, it's beautiful.

20:32With the view of the mountain, it's great property.

20:34We have a verbal offer on two of the lots.

20:37We'll consider a verbal on the whole thing.

20:39So it's really kind of an agreement of trust until we get the title work done.

20:44So, Janelle, you sent in paperwork, right?

20:46Did he should have it today?

20:48Mary, I saw an email from you that you're still having legal check yours.

20:53Yeah, I just got my attorney respond to me this morning.

20:58So I'm good to go.

20:59I'll take it over and get it notarized today and get it in the mail.

21:01All it is really is just a title shift in order to get everybody paid equally.

21:06Any questions?

21:08No, it's good news.

21:09It's all good news.

21:12Yeah.

21:12Good to finally have something moving forward with it.

21:14It'll be nice to have it all resolved, right?

21:18And even if any, yeah, just have it all in the works.

21:21So I don't think it'll take a ton of time once everybody's got their paperwork in.

21:25We'll probably have an offer, the written offer, within a day or so.

21:30Great.

21:30That's awesome.

21:31That's actually great.

21:32Cool.

21:33It's just awkward and uncomfortable.

21:35And there's so much, you know, hard feelings between each other.

21:41Okay.

21:42Awesome.

21:43All right.

21:44All right.

21:44See you.

21:45All right.

21:45Bye.

21:46You asked me 10, 15, 20, 30 years ago if I ever thought that this would be where I was.

21:52No, not at all.

21:54Not at all.

21:56I'm not being nostalgic.

21:57I'm not being like, oh my gosh, we've come this way.

22:00How did we get here?

22:01No, like it's just evolution.

22:02It's the evolution of the way things are.

22:05And I guess I'm very practical.

22:06I'm like, okay, let's just get it done.

22:07I loved Coyote Pass and I am going to miss being able to play out there.

22:17I'm going to miss the memories because I'm very nostalgic.

22:19I'm actually going to be relieved that closing on this and giving them their money from it will finally just, hey, it's done.

22:29I don't have any more financial attachment to you at all.

22:372025 might be that year that we get this freaking done.

22:40Coyote and I had our big fight like four years ago, three years ago.

22:45Don't you dare point your finger at me.

22:47No, you stay and talk.

22:49I'm done listening to you.

22:50F*** you.

22:53I'm like, it's time.

23:02I'm so excited about this.

23:03Did you bring tools?

23:05No, I opened it to see what, wait, okay, hold on.

23:08Just jiggle it.

23:09I'm going to create a little office space.

23:11So Jen's helping me build a desk for it today.

23:13Sean and I used to always say that if you can put together, like, furniture that comes in 1,000 boxes,

23:19it can, like, be a sign that your marriage will last forever.

23:23So this is a sign if our friendship can last forever.

23:26It shows that you have to help me.

23:31Looks like I'm holding a hammer.

23:34No, I'm holding the hammer.

23:36Oh, surgery.

23:37I was going to tell you.

23:40Cody called.

23:41We did, like, a video call with Janelle, and he said that somebody wants a couple pieces of the property.

23:48Supposedly.

23:49Once it sells, is he going to, like, does your money ever go into his hands, or is it all handled through title?

23:55I would think it's all handled through title.

23:58Because my name will be on the title, it better not go through his hands.

24:02Yeah, I just don't want it to be like, oh, well, I cut down that tree so I get more, because I did more physical labor.

24:07You know, at this point, honestly, Jen, there's potential for anything when it comes to him.

24:15It's been a really long time since I even started the conversation, and now Cody's like, we've got to get it done, let's get it done, let's get it done, let's get it done.

24:21And I'm like, that's why I tried a long time ago, but you were sitting around on your butt.

24:25He probably wasn't.

24:26He was probably getting the chainsaw stuck in the tree.

24:28I got another one of those emails from some woman.

24:37What about it?

24:38She's calling me out and then asking sort of, like, to get to know us for the purpose of joining the family.

24:43It looks like this is moving along.

24:55It's been a few days since we all talked.

24:57We actually have a signed offer.

24:59So it's real.

25:00It's legitimate.

25:01It's awesome.

25:02Now we just got to figure out all the minutia still and get everybody happy, and then we can move forward.

25:08All right, so I'll get the kids from school.

25:13I just need to do some work, and I can just do that down here in the office, so.

25:18Speaking of work.

25:20Okay, so your dad finally has put us all on title on all the pieces, so.

25:25And we actually had an offer.

25:27So, like, now we got the buyer solid.

25:29Now we got to get our family side, the family side with all the, how the title, who does what, what are we going to do?

25:34Like, what's the decision?

25:35Like, all that minutia stuff has got to get worked out for real.

25:39We've been talking about it and going back and forth for months, but now we really need to take action because there's a time.

25:44I mean, there's a ticking time clock now with this contract.

25:48It expires at a certain point, so.

25:51Wow.

25:51Yeah.

25:52Just got to wait for all the stuff to be done, the paperwork.

25:56Yeah.

25:57So basically our name will be on all four pieces, and when they sell, we just divide it equally.

26:02What about the money that you put into the house?

26:03I don't think there's any way for me to get that bad.

26:06It was a gift.

26:10So Maddie has been telling me, and my kids sort of feel like I should pursue the money that I put into Robin's house.

26:15It's going to be a fight.

26:16If I want that money back, there's always a billion reasons why he doesn't owe it.

26:20And I just think at this point that might just be a debt issue.

26:26Janelle helped Robin and I buy our house.

26:27And I settled that debt with Janelle back in January, and I'd been working on it for quite a long time.

26:33This just made it fair.

26:35And she just stated to me after that was done, in January or February, she said,

26:41our debt is settled.

26:43You're good with me.

26:44It was more than fair.

26:46So is this a real deal?

26:50Yeah.

26:52Are you sad at all?

26:53No.

26:54I just want to be done.

26:56I mean, our future is really bright.

26:58I'm just excited about it.

26:59So I'm not, I just don't want to keep messing around with all that stupid thing over there.

27:02You want to be done?

27:03Mm-hmm.

27:04I want to be done.

27:04Yeah, I think I would feel the closing of the chapter of Coyote Pass a little sharper.

27:12It's still a little sharp.

27:13I'm like, oh, that was a sad dream.

27:14It's sad that that dream is over.

27:16But I have a new dream, and it's better.

27:26Can you come and help me for a second?

27:29I need a second hand on this.

27:31Robin and I had an engagement picture taken, and it was really, really special to me.

27:35I wanted to take the idea and get really, really creative with it and have it painted.

27:39And I've got a friend of mine from high school, a phenomenal artist, and her and I sang together

27:45in choir.

27:46All creatures of our God and King, lift up your voice in praise and sing.

27:52I don't know the rest of the song, so I can't sing anymore.

27:56Where, how do you measure?

27:56That's the middle.

27:57I've measured here from the middle.

27:58It's not like the middle of the wall, though, right?

28:00I held it up.

28:02Oh, shoot.

28:03It's literally like an inch too short.

28:06You know what?

28:06It's not going to matter.

28:09All right.

28:11So I'll let you put yours on first.

28:13Hold on, hold on.

28:15It's about a sixteenth of a bubble off, is all.

28:19How's it look from there?

28:20It looks good from there.

28:20Yeah, then I think we're good.

28:21Let me just get a buffet right there.

28:22I'm satisfied with it, if you are.

28:27I love the painting.

28:28I think it's beautiful.

28:29I'm just shy.

28:31And so, like, Cody wants to demonstrate and show our love openly all the time.

28:37And I'm always like, I'm always shy about it.

28:41Hey, did I tell you?

28:42I got another one of those emails from some woman talking about plural marriage.

28:50What about it?

28:51Um, she's kind of chastising me for not, for deciding to quit plural marriage.

29:01Some, okay.

29:02Yeah.

29:03Deciding to quit?

29:04Well, she's calling me out and then asking sort of, like, to get to know us for the purpose of joining the family.

29:10I find it very inappropriate that they would send it to Cody.

29:19It's not usually proper to go hitting on a guy.

29:22You have to go through the sister wives.

29:24You have to go through, like, at least one.

29:28I've had a lot of letters come in.

29:29Hey, listen, why don't you reconsider plural marriage?

29:31And I'd like you to consider having me in your family.

29:34Like, a woman would want to marry me and be Robin's sister wife.

29:37I mean, like, who doesn't like a little bit of attention?

29:40But at the same time, it's like, that's a craziness that I don't want to indulge.

29:45I didn't send her a letter back.

29:47I was like, uh...

29:50So are you bringing this up to me because you're interested?

29:57Well, it was one of those things.

29:58I deleted the letter.

29:59Yeah.

29:59Because I thought I'd just keep it myself.

30:00And there's one of these things.

30:01It's like, you're my sweetheart.

30:03I'm going to tell you everything going on.

30:04I wish I would have kept it to show you.

30:10Thanks for telling me.

30:11It would have been weird, probably, if you didn't.

30:15From now on, I'm going to just show them to you.

30:16Let you read them, and then...

30:17Yeah.

30:18Yeah.

30:19I'm just going to say it.

30:22The...

30:23When a young woman sees a married, stable man, that is attractive.

30:30You know, he's figured out some of his bull crap.

30:33He's got a wife that's happy, and he knows how to be a dad.

30:36I mean, like, I'm sorry, but that's going to make any girl's eggs drop.

30:39I mean, like, any young woman would be like,

30:43oh, he is marriageable material because he's already married.

30:49Truth be told, for one split second, I kind of go, hmm.

30:53For a split second, I think, oh, wouldn't this be great?

30:55This is what I've always wanted for my life.

30:59And, hmm, how would they fit?

31:00I just thought it was important for you to know,

31:02because I got thinking about it.

31:04It's like, these have come to us before.

31:05I don't remember you telling me about this other one.

31:07Yeah, I remember, because I was telling you

31:08she told us a place to look to see her picture, and online.

31:13Oh!

31:14You asked me if I wanted to see her, and I said no.

31:17And then you said she's cute, and I still said, no, don't show me.

31:20Yeah.

31:21I think that's just too weird.

31:23Yeah.

31:23That's like, that's like...

31:27Like what?

31:28It's just too weird.

31:32We're married.

31:32I don't want to know that another woman's having a crush on me,

31:35even if it makes me feel special.

31:36It's sort of ridiculous, right?

31:43It didn't used to be ridiculous.

31:47Yeah, it wasn't when we were going to be in plural marriage.

31:50Man, she's pushing my buttons.

31:52It wasn't ridiculous when Robin and I fell in love.

31:56I thought I'd get you a ring.

31:58Yeah, you want to do that?

32:00You won't like this at all.

32:02It's a string.

32:04Where did you get that?

32:05My daughter made it.

32:06But guess what?

32:07It made everything else ridiculous.

32:09I mean, Robin and I falling in love made Christine ridiculous,

32:12because Christine did not handle that experience well.

32:16And what was it?

32:17Well, was I in love with Christine as much as I was in love with Robin?

32:20Well, that was part of the problem.

32:21So anytime you have two entities, one is going to outshine the other.

32:26Guys can deal with that.

32:29But Christine couldn't deal with that.

32:32I mean, let's just be really honest.

32:34Could I fairly love all of these women?

32:37I wanted to.

32:39I really tried to.

32:41I even faked it.

32:44But in the end, it just wasn't going to work.

32:49You should show up in Flagstaff, and when he goes to, like, shake your hand,

32:54you should, like, lick his face.

32:55What would a woman want to be in plural marriage for, Robin?

33:02Because we're still discussing it like it's an option.

33:16What did Janelle say about this?

33:17I think she's just ready to be done with it, too.

33:21I just wonder sometimes if Cody subconsciously is like,

33:27we'll just take our own sweet time, and then they'll just be tired of it,

33:30and then I can just talk them into just do whatever I want them to do,

33:32even though it doesn't help them at all.

33:34That's what my children do.

33:36They wear me down until I cannot function as a human anymore,

33:40and so I give in.

33:42He's not going to wear me down.

33:43Are you kidding?

33:43I freaking stuck with him for a decade while he was trying to wear me down.

33:49I just realized you haven't been to Flagstaff in, like, a bazillion weeks.

33:52Are you going to have to go back to sign?

33:56Oh, like when the property sells?

33:58I don't know.

33:58I might have to go.

33:59That would be weird.

34:03Like, you should throw them for a loop.

34:05You should show up in Flagstaff,

34:07and when he goes to, like, shake your hand,

34:09you should, like, lick his face.

34:12Just to, like, keep him on his toes.

34:13Like, maybe give, like, Robin, like, a kiss on each cheek.

34:21Just so they know.

34:22Just to mess with him.

34:23Yeah.

34:24Like, maybe, like, whisper in her ear and be like...

34:27And then I could be like...

34:28I still want this.

34:30Mine and Robin's relationship is going so well.

34:46The monogamous side of this experience.

34:49Robin and I are moving forward.

34:51Not that anything's wrong with plural marriage.

34:53And yet, here, Robin and I are still trying to purge it from our system

34:56because we're still discussing it like it's an option.

35:01Why are we getting these letters?

35:02That's what's interesting to me.

35:04What would a woman want to be in plural marriage for, Robin?

35:07Well, I know why I want it to be.

35:19What was it?

35:21Having that community of women that were, like, had a...

35:27the same goal.

35:29That wasn't something that I really experienced a whole lot of.

35:32I just don't know if we were really fully embracing, like,

35:36the fact that we...

35:37that you had more than one wife.

35:39To have us sitting here at the table like we were

35:41when we would have our little meetings

35:43and for you to be able

35:46to say in front of the other wives,

35:49Hey, babe, I got you.

35:51I'm going to make sure your needs are met.

35:53Like, saying that in front of all of us.

35:55Like, I need you all to know individually and collectively

35:59that I love each of you

36:00and that I have each of your backs.

36:05How beautiful would that have been?

36:08Don't you think that would have...

36:11felt very unifying?

36:14Yeah.

36:15Yeah.

36:19And acknowledge that in front of each other.

36:22Acknowledge that...

36:24Yeah.

36:26It doesn't matter anyway anymore, I guess.

36:29The bigger question for me is

36:30you want me to just show you these letters

36:31when they show up?

36:33Let it go?

36:34Did you just track what I just said?

36:36Yeah.

36:36What do you think about that?

36:38You just went back to the letters.

36:39Well, it's just all it is

36:42is a confirmation of my own failures, Robin.

36:44It's like, yeah, it would have been nice

36:46to have had the skill set

36:48to have managed those relationships better.

36:53I'm not trying to point out your failures.

36:56That's not what I'm trying to do.

36:57I failed.

36:58Cody.

36:58And I've spent three years being angry about it.

37:01I'm not trying to say you failed.

37:03I absolutely know

37:04that this is not all Cody's fault.

37:07This is all of our fault.

37:09I'm sorry.

37:10I should have never brought it up.

37:11It just doesn't matter anymore.

37:13Maybe it's a good lesson right now.

37:14I mean, those relationships are still hostile.

37:16Maybe it's smart for me

37:18to start figuring out a way

37:19to defuse the hostility now.

37:22For the sake of your kids?

37:25I feel like that it is my fault.

37:27I need to own the failure of the family.

37:29This is wise because I was the leader.

37:31Like, certain parties just went,

37:32I just don't want to do this anymore.

37:34Like, literally.

37:36Christine and I had come to this point

37:37where we just couldn't figure it out.

37:40And I regret that.

37:41It's a huge regret to me

37:43because I could have been a leader there, too.

37:48The crazy thing is now I'm looking at this.

37:52Robin and I are talking about plural marriage.

37:54Another wife hypothetically coming in.

37:57And I'm going,

37:58uh, no.

37:59Because how you do anything

38:00is how you do everything.

38:02And we'll screw that one up, too.

38:03I'm just trying to make the best of it here

38:08with you in our happy little kingdom.

38:11Yeah.

38:12And you're perfectly fine

38:13with being out of the plug-in-me thing forever?

38:16I'm so scared of it now,

38:18I don't even know how I would consider it.

38:19Well, that's not an answer.

38:21That's the only answer I've got.

38:23Mm-hmm.

38:26I'm perfectly fine with you.

38:28Next time on Sister Wives.

38:34You're really close to being three weeks out, right?

38:36She can technically come anytime she wants.

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