Sister Wives Season 20 Episode 4

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00:00Previously on Sister Wives.

00:02Hello. Hello. How are you? Good. I'm Ron.

00:06Hi, Ron. I'm Mary. I have never done speed dating before.

00:10Jenna and I have joked about it, like, for a while.

00:12I have three kids. They're all in their 20s.

00:14Yeah. He's handsome, so there's that.

00:18Cody called me just really recently and has said,

00:22what if I just put us all on all the titles?

00:24Is this guy falling?

00:26And he has this shy, pretty wife now, and she's really shy.

00:29And she's really pretty.

00:30Those are words he's used.

00:32She's very shy and she's really pretty.

00:33I'm like, well, good for you.

00:35We went ahead and got an offer and accepted the offer that we had.

00:39And we are moving out of this house.

00:43Robin and I have been kind of in a perpetual discussion about Coyote Pass.

00:48Maybe when it sells, they'll be so happy that they'll be nice.

00:52You've been kind of hard to.

00:53Listen, I have this wife.

00:55Her name is Robin, and she would never let me do anything naughty.

01:00As bad as I want to do it.

01:02What's over there?

01:30What's over there you want to see?

01:32So Zona and I are out for a walk, and we just wanted to walk over to Jen's bike shop and just check in and say hi.

01:40Oh, it's Mary.

01:41Hello.

01:42Hello, beautiful.

01:44Hi, Zona.

01:44I know you're talking to Zona.

01:45So my husband and I bought a building last year and renovated it and turned it into a bike and RC shop.

01:53It kind of feels like it's like the new hoppin' place in little Paraguay town.

01:58I know.

01:59It's really kind of fun, actually.

02:00It's, it is a fun place to be.

02:03Well, Sean, I have to talk to your wife about some serious stuff.

02:07Again?

02:08Girl stuff.

02:08I'm always out of the picture.

02:09Girl stuff.

02:10We're just going to be talking about guys.

02:13I need her opinion.

02:15Only one of us is looking.

02:17She's not looking.

02:18She's semi-happy with you.

02:19So I did end up matching with that guy, Ron, from that speed dating event.

02:26Would you say that you're more romantic, less romantic?

02:29I do know my love language.

02:31My love language is physical touch.

02:33Actually, my first is words of affirmation.

02:35Okay.

02:36And then, and then the secondary is touch.

02:39We have talked.

02:40We have had a couple of conversations.

02:42He's a really nice guy.

02:46That's what you get.

02:50Boy talk?

02:51I mean, there's just been a couple of guys I've been talking to.

02:54Really?

02:55One of them's in Denver.

02:56Okay, I'm okay with that.

02:58Okay, so Jen's view on dating is definitely a lot different than mine is.

03:01And she keeps reminding me it's because of the culture that I grew up in.

03:06Mormon slash polygamous culture is you date somebody with the intention to get married.

03:13It's not promoted that you date around.

03:17Okay, so that guy is not a guy I've been talking to.

03:20Okay, good.

03:20First look at the guys I've been talking to first.

03:23You know, if I open these, that means they can see that I've messaged them and then.

03:27Just do it.

03:29Let's see.

03:30Okay, he looks like a cartoon character villain.

03:34That's a villain?

03:35Villain.

03:35Villain who's undercover as a nice guy.

03:37That looks like a business profile photo.

03:40Nope, that's douchey.

03:42I don't know.

03:42I feel like dating apps are stupid.

03:44Either that or most of the men on them are stupid.

03:47I feel like it's both.

03:49No.

03:50No, I can't even imagine dating through an app on a phone.

03:53That sounds so disconnected.

03:55Would you even find anybody who is very serious on there to date date?

03:58Or are they just trying to look for a hookup?

04:00The problem that I ran into with the apps is that in the one that I did, there's swingers on the app and there's also open marriages, open relationships.

04:14And I wasn't into that.

04:15I did that whole polygamy thing already.

04:17No, I wasn't into that.

04:18I'm like, oh, I'm strictly going to be a monogamist and like, too bad.

04:22We could have had a lot of fun.

04:22I'm like, okay.

04:24You will never see me on a dating app, personally.

04:27I just don't see how that ever would work out for me.

04:30Going through an app, how do you get anything on the real essence of a person without meeting them or you're reading a resume?

04:40I just don't know, man.

04:42This guy I barely just matched with.

04:46He's a little bit young.

04:46How much younger?

04:48Six years young.

04:49So we're not doing cougar yet.

04:51Oh, how many years is cougar?

04:53Like 10 to 12 years younger is starting to be cougar.

04:56You have to be older than maybe 15 years older than them.

04:59Do you think that big of an age to be?

05:01Yeah, yeah.

05:02To be a cougar?

05:03Yeah, 10 is totally fine.

05:04He probably has kids.

05:06If they're 15 to 20 years younger, I will stage an intervention.

05:10I promise that's never going to happen.

05:11If they're 15 to 20 years older, I will help plan the funeral.

05:14Is that funeral age yet?

05:16It could be.

05:17Yeah, it could be.

05:18It could be.

05:19Okay, maybe.

05:20Let's see the pictures.

05:21Okay, look.

05:22That does not say kiss the cook.

05:26It does not say kiss the cook.

05:27It does not say kiss the cook.

05:29That is so naughty.

05:31You have to like him.

05:32You have to like him.

05:34Don't you touch my phone.

05:36Let me help you there.

05:37That's a good picture.

05:38He looks really nice there.

05:39He looks very nice.

05:40I like the way he does his hair.

05:42Like, it's a good look.

05:43He has hair.

05:44He has hair.

05:45It's important that a guy knows what to do with his hair.

05:48Like, if it's like long and curly and whatever and you know what to do with it, great.

05:52But if you don't and it's just kind of bleh.

05:54Oh, my gosh.

05:56I wasn't even thinking.

05:59That's what we were so funny.

06:04I love you.

06:11We've got this.

06:12Ah, yes.

06:12This is also for the loose pitchers.

06:14It's also for hitting brothers.

06:16Ooh.

06:16Or sisters-in-law.

06:20Oh.

06:21You just got pummeled.

06:24We bought a house.

06:25It was contingent on this house selling.

06:27And we've sold it.

06:29Now we just got to get out of the house.

06:30So it's just a big rush of packing and moving.

06:33Got some boxes here.

06:35I want a saran wrap this, too.

06:37It's going to be a dance all day.

06:39Ooh.

06:40I've not heard officially, but I've been reading on social media that Cody and Robin have a new house.

06:46I've wondered if this move would affect the sale of the property.

06:49I mean, from what I'm hearing, the mortgage is good.

06:51It's a good-sized mortgage.

06:52He's going to need the cash.

06:53That might even be better or worse, depending on if he's going to still continue to be fair.

06:57Because, like, he might get, like, well, I just get more money.

07:00I don't know.

07:00Like, I mean, that's what I do worry is not because I think he's going to need more cash.

07:04He's going to get a little greedy.

07:05I can smell my own armpits, and it's gross.

07:11Why don't you come over here and smell my pheromones?

07:13Oh, wow.

07:14I'm not here to smell your pheromones.

07:16Oh, dude, I know you're here.

07:18How can I help?

07:20Michael's my youngest brother.

07:21He's the youngest out of 10.

07:23Michael and I are literally a generation apart, like 19 years and 8 months.

07:29Stepping on a bunch of toys that have fallen through the couch.

07:31Is that you?

07:33Is it just you that I'm smelling?

07:34I think you're smelling me, too.

07:37Very strong.

07:38You like that?

07:40Like the way I smell?

07:41Wow.

07:42Yeah.

07:42Okay.

07:46I'm always peacocking at her.

07:48Something I would never do with another woman.

07:50We've been moving for months now.

07:52We haven't had a romantic getaway, an escape, time together.

07:56And so what's happened is we've become battle buddies, not lovers.

07:59So I'm just flirting around here, just having some fun with it, like making my stinky body

08:04something romantic.

08:05Hey, you smell those pheromones?

08:06Mm-hmm.

08:07That means you're digging on me.

08:09You like that stinky smell?

08:11Is there a stank on me that's making you go, ooh, that handsome man?

08:14And she's like, why are you always peacocking?

08:17Because you're the one I'm interested in.

08:20I'm not actually someone who goes for it either.

08:23There was such a big family culture of no affection, you know, with Cody and wives in front of

08:30each other that when it came to anything public, I just would shy away from flirting with him.

08:38Now I'm having to kind of get comfortable with it.

08:42She don't like it.

08:44Well, no, it's not that I don't like it.

08:46It's just I'm not going to give you attention when you're doing it.

08:49I'll give you attention when you're not doing it.

08:51I've always been comfortable flirting with Robin.

08:54I think it's just going to take time for Robin to get used to this monogamy thing.

08:58And eventually, it'll be where, you know, like, listen, I want to be walking down the

09:02street with her someday, maybe in a shopping mall or something like that, and have her just

09:05slap my ass.

09:07That's when I know that she's comfortable with her and I.

09:14Okay.

09:14His picture's going to look real.

09:15I'm willing to talk to him.

09:16Good thing, because you have to start the conversation.

09:18I'm not starting it.

09:19He liked me.

09:20He has to start it.

09:21I have a rule.

09:22If you like me first, and then I match back on you, then you have to start the conversation.

09:26Like, it's a privilege to hang out with me.

09:28It's a privilege to be in my space.

09:30I just don't think everybody gets to have access to me.

09:32Hey, bud.

09:46Hey, mom.

09:48You doing something?

09:49I'm just going to put on the drink.

09:50Cool.

09:51How are you?

09:52You trying that pot pie?

09:53Yes, I am.

09:54It's the best pot pie I've ever made, ever.

09:56Oh, silly.

09:57What's up?

09:58Do you want help?

09:58How's it going?

09:58Or are you cool if I just kind of take a hole?

09:59No, you're fine.

10:01What is your moving plan?

10:03Are you getting, like, trailer?

10:06What are you doing to move it?

10:07I'm going to be going to get a trailer to put my bed and dresser and bookshelves in.

10:13And everything else is going in the back of my truck.

10:16All the totes are going to go in the back of your truck.

10:18I've masked it out.

10:20The totes fit perfectly in the back of my truck.

10:21Serious?

10:22Yep.

10:23Peyton is moving to North Carolina.

10:24It's actually rubbish.

10:26Why?

10:26Why does he need to move as well?

10:30It's hard that my kids don't want to live close to me.

10:32Yeah, absolutely.

10:33What is it about North Carolina that has people moving there?

10:37It's insane.

10:40I'm in no rush.

10:41Yeah, right?

10:42Because you're done now with your military stuff.

10:44Yeah, military ended yesterday.

10:46How does that feel?

10:47That's a chapter of your life that's over.

10:49And I am relieved.

10:55You were mentioning you might sign up someday again in North Carolina.

10:57I very, very possibly could sign on to the Guard in North Carolina.

11:01It's just I wanted it to end.

11:07Garrison moved to Flagstaff

11:09and attempted to transfer to the Arizona Guard

11:11and was trying to transfer for a year

11:14before it finally went through right before.

11:18Right before he died, it went through.

11:20It went through.

11:21Seriously?

11:23Garrison was Peyton's best friend.

11:25And they joined the military together.

11:28So many parts of their life where they've been together

11:30and they've been a unit.

11:31They were frickin' frack when they were younger.

11:33That's what Cody called them, was frickin' frack.

11:35Like, they've just been a unit.

11:37It's Peyton Garrison.

11:38And Janelle's lost a son and I lost a best friend.

11:40Yeah.

11:41And I really want to be close to her.

11:43I really want to be close to Maddie's kids.

11:44I really want to be close to Maddie.

11:46Because I just lost a huge chunk of me

11:49and it's not here.

11:51I'm trying to find something that isn't here.

11:53One of the best things about plural marriage

11:56is what I wanted most for my kids

11:59was that relationship with their other mom.

12:01And so I've got Peyton, who is so close to Janelle.

12:04She's someone that I trust.

12:05I trust her influence on Peyton.

12:06So it feels like sometimes I feel like a crappy mom

12:08because they're not choosing to live next to me.

12:10Sometimes I feel like Janelle's a better mom

12:11because they're choosing to live next to her.

12:13I think it's good for you to move away for a while.

12:16You know how Maddie knows me pretty well?

12:17Yeah.

12:18One of her arguments was,

12:20you can be here with us.

12:22It'll be me and Caleb and Savannah and my mom.

12:25And it'll also be my kids.

12:26And there's Christian girls here that I go to church with.

12:28She's such a jerk.

12:29That's one of the things she was like.

12:31She is such a jerk.

12:31Hey, by the way, I go to church with these girls over here

12:33and I think you'd really enjoy that.

12:35I'm like, wow, Maddie, that sounds perfect and wonderful.

12:38Women?

12:40Perfect.

12:41I don't like you guys moving away.

12:43You haven't been sick of me so far?

12:44No.

12:44I haven't been obnoxious enough?

12:46Yeah, I got you.

12:47I really want to be away.

12:50I really want to have a massive change.

12:52I really want something else completely different than what I've had.

12:56But I hate being away from family

12:58and knowing that there is family there

13:02and it's family that's calling me there.

13:03That's perfect.

13:04So I'm over at Jen's bike shop and we are just kind of hanging out and, you know, of course,

13:13we've got to swipe through the guys and see if there's any guys on the dating site.

13:18Swipe, swipe, swipe, swipe.

13:19Six-four, dude.

13:21Told you I was right.

13:22He doesn't smoke.

13:23This is good.

13:24Good.

13:24Okay.

13:25His picture's all look cool.

13:25I'm willing to talk to him.

13:27Good thing because you have to start the conversation.

13:29I'm not starting it.

13:30He liked me.

13:31He has to start it.

13:32I have a rule.

13:32If you like me first and then I match back on you, then you have to start the conversation.

13:37If I start talking to somebody and I ask a question and then they answer and then they

13:42leave nothing, they're not interested enough in me to ask a question, so I'm out.

13:47So of all these guys, these are all the guys you're actively talking to?

13:50There's only six of them.

13:52I'm not a hussy.

13:53What exactly is the definition of a hussy?

13:56Well, it's like a woman who has a lot of men.

14:00Men in polygamy would be considered hussies.

14:03They have a lot of women.

14:04I really didn't date much before Cody.

14:11I didn't have the option to look outside that church culture.

14:16That's all I wanted to marry was somebody in that church, right?

14:21Well, the first hanging out, I'm hanging out with Mary.

14:24It wasn't really a date I didn't, but we were just hanging out with a bunch of peers.

14:28Like, and I flirt with her a lot.

14:30It was just like, I guess I had that part of life down.

14:33I could flirt.

14:34Meeting Mary's mom and dad were like clinchers into this relationship.

14:39There was an attraction there to this experience, this family.

14:43It was just like the two of them, Mary's mom and dad, are just reeling me in.

14:48Back then, Cody was different than he is now.

14:52He had a light in his eyes, and he was very kind, and he was very charismatic.

14:58I don't doubt that there is still goodness in Cody.

15:02I just haven't seen it for a really long time, like directed at me.

15:05I think there's something he's trying to cover up or something.

15:09I don't know.

15:10Like, I don't know.

15:11I can't say, you know.

15:12I don't know him like I used to know him.

15:14He doesn't know me.

15:15I get overwhelmed by this.

15:17I can only do this like for five minutes or ten minutes at a time.

15:21So tell me, are you still sticking to like 6'2", blah, blah, blah?

15:26No, I just would like him taller than me.

15:286'2 would be awesome because I like a tall guy.

15:31Yeah.

15:31But, you know, he has to be nice.

15:34He has to be able to handle me and you, my bitchy best friend.

15:39That's a lot.

15:40I was asking a lot.

15:41You're friends who may be bitches.

15:44Do you think it helps when I make threats?

15:46And if they still stick around, then we know they're a keeper.

15:48If you hurt her, I will make sure you pay for the rest of your life.

15:52I think you absolutely can say things like that.

15:55I feel like I can.

15:55I have no issue with that.

15:56Yeah.

15:56So.

15:57I don't want to be somebody different to fit into somebody else's world.

16:03I want to be me.

16:04And if you fit at mine, if our values align, if our, if our vibes align, you know, like, that's great.

16:13Like, it's a privilege to hang out with me.

16:15It's a privilege to be in my space.

16:17Like, and I don't mean that in like a rude way.

16:20I just don't think everybody gets to have access to me.

16:22I don't think anybody should let anybody in the world have access to them.

16:25You, you really want to have people in your world and in your space that align with who

16:31you are as a person and that bring you energy and that don't drain you.

16:38Let's go home, lovey.

16:40All right.

16:41I'll see you when I see you.

16:42Okay.

16:42Bye.

16:43Zona.

16:47Why all of this?

16:49Why move?

16:49Yeah, why move?

16:50What good?

16:50What gives?

16:51Seriously.

16:51I mean, we love this house.

16:53Plural marriage is so hard.

16:55We're like faking through it.

16:56I'm so happy.

17:01Why does it still say brown?

17:05I changed my name so many times.

17:09So many different things.

17:11I haven't changed my name.

17:11Are you Muerte again?

17:13My name is Muerte.

17:15No, David has mentioned before that his nickname should be Muerte.

17:17What does Muerte mean?

17:19Is it appropriate?

17:20It's probably inappropriate.

17:21I can't say it.

17:23Muerte.

17:23Death.

17:24What?

17:25Muerte means death?

17:27That's his nickname?

17:27He's crazy.

17:29He does not know what it means.

17:31Sorry, you're missing Peyton.

17:34Just missing all of them.

17:35Yeah.

17:36McElthie, too.

17:37We had fun for him for a few months.

17:38It was way too short.

17:39What in the world?

17:41Oh, Peyton just moved to North Carolina this morning.

17:43Just barely.

17:45There was a time when most of my kids were right next to me.

17:49And then I married David.

17:51And I feel like we had this huge, full experience.

17:54And now half my kids are gone.

17:56And I just feel like I just must be a bad mom.

18:02No, you're not a bad mom.

18:05They all have to grow up.

18:06We're picking Janelle instead.

18:08One of the times when we were talking about moving, she's like, and I have all the grandkids

18:11living with you, blah, blah, blah.

18:11And I was like, thinking inside, you need to shut up right now.

18:16That was the moment where I felt like slapping her.

18:18How could she say that?

18:19She gets all the grandkids now.

18:21So how's Janelle?

18:23Things with Janelle?

18:24I haven't talked to Janelle a lot for a while.

18:26Like business stuff.

18:27We talk business stuff.

18:30And then we talk, I think business stuff.

18:33With us separating like we have with our business, there's been more things that we've had to

18:36figure out, ironically.

18:38Janelle and I work a business together.

18:41And there's been a lot of changes within the last couple of months.

18:44We used to run it more together.

18:46But really in life, we used to do everything together.

18:48And we raised our kids together.

18:49And so it's just one more step away from each other where she's going to branch off and

18:56work on her farm.

18:58I don't know.

18:59I know that I've hurt her feelings a little bit.

19:01We're doing things more separate now.

19:03And it's just I want to be more in charge of my business now.

19:07You know?

19:07So you guys are getting competitive.

19:08I like that.

19:10We're trying to support each other, too.

19:12But competition, yeah.

19:13I always like a good competition.

19:15Good competition's good.

19:17Come on.

19:17We learn how to do things together.

19:20And now it's almost like we're learning how to do things apart.

19:23But it's okay because, you know, you have to move on.

19:26And you really, we really have to live our life for the best for us.

19:30Uh, kitchen, well, gosh, man.

19:43I, my head is spinning.

19:44I don't even know where to start with it.

19:46Mmm.

19:47Last day of packing today.

19:48Gotta get out of the house.

19:50Anything that we're dumping, our garbages are full.

19:52So we gotta haul them off.

19:53Yep.

19:54Michael's leaving tomorrow.

19:55I hope he's okay.

19:57I sure appreciate him being here, man.

19:59Cheers.

20:00Cheers.

20:00Here's to a new house.

20:02Here's to a new house.

20:03Yeah.

20:03By the way, why all of this?

20:07Why move?

20:07Yeah, why move?

20:08What good?

20:09What gives?

20:09Seriously.

20:09I mean, we love this house.

20:11Rob, I'll be really honest with you.

20:13It's just the pain of the experience of living here through COVID and through breakups.

20:18Rob and I have lived in Flagstaff for six years.

20:21Five of those years have been in this house.

20:23This five years have been the five years that my family has just eroded, crumbled, and moved

20:28on.

20:29You haven't seen Jack for what happened.

20:34It was a very, very painful experience.

20:37There was such a want to change my environment.

20:41And that's pain oriented.

20:44That's just from pain.

20:45Right.

20:46That's just something to do with trauma, emotional trauma.

20:49And it was right when Robin finally had sort of an epiphany where she just went, I'm done

20:55with Coyote Bass.

20:57How is she liking being the only wife?

21:01Robin struggled with the whole thing.

21:03I mean, she married me under the premise of plural marriage, with the expectation of plural

21:07marriage.

21:07And when the other wives left, I wondered if my value to her was diminished.

21:13I mean, I'm still wondering.

21:16Yeah, sure.

21:18Being the only wife is great in some ways.

21:19But there's also ways that it's not great.

21:23This was not the life that I expected.

21:24And not the life that I planned for myself.

21:29And while I love Cody, I did not ever intend or expect or want to have him to myself.

21:35I always wanted to live plural marriage.

21:37I wanted to live my religion.

21:39She can't.

21:39We made our covenant on the basis of having...

21:42Yeah, it was like started out that way.

21:44Because like, I mean, I remember growing up, you were the coolest polygamist I knew.

21:48Right?

21:48And then, now you're not.

21:51I'm not a polygamist at all.

21:54You know?

21:54Right?

21:56Because there's a reality of struggle in polygamy that you don't understand unless you're in it.

22:01Robin's still hung up here.

22:02She's still like, we could have done this.

22:05But you have to deny sort of what your wives feel about it.

22:10Plural marriage is so hard.

22:12We're like, fake it through it.

22:15I'm so happy.

22:16You know?

22:16And it was just a struggle.

22:18So it's like other polygamists are watching and they're seeing this and they're going,

22:22holy...

22:23Look at this.

22:24Like, total consummate, you know, just dissolving in the family.

22:29The craziest, you know, just failure.

22:31Just, I just...

22:32Or whatever.

22:34Other people are going, yeah, now they're out of polygamy.

22:35Hallelujah.

22:36And other people are going, yeah, you really botched it.

22:39And there's an irony here because Christine told me 15 years ago she hated polygamy.

22:47I just didn't know what to do with it.

22:49It was a shock to me.

22:50I just sort of, like, shook it off and...

22:52And, and, in a sense, ignored it.

22:57The biggest mistake I made with the divorce when, when Christine is leaving and I'm angry,

23:03it made me feel like a victim.

23:05It was extremely aggressive, but I believe that she needed to do that in order to cut.

23:11Yeah, like rip the band-aid off.

23:13Exactly.

23:13Yeah, she just needed to do it.

23:14She needed that, but it made me so angry.

23:16I was like, I will, like, now I can't even talk to her.

23:18I still can't talk to her.

23:19I still don't want to say her name.

23:21I want to forget she existed.

23:23And yet I've got to interact with her kids.

23:26Her kids, your kids, too.

23:27Yeah, yeah.

23:27Our kids.

23:28Her kids.

23:29We've got, you know, so I want to interact with our kids, but I just, I got so bitter

23:33with everything, with, with how it all went down.

23:35I just, I want to move off of that.

23:37You know, she's found her soulmate.

23:39She is happy as can be.

23:40And I want her to be in that space.

23:42But she, if she's really happy, then she really needs to get over whatever happened with

23:47us and be able to be cool about it all.

23:50Which is still hypocritical of me.

23:52I really recognize it because I, I, I'm, I'm happy with Robin, but I, but Robin and I

23:58are still bitter about the, the failure of this experience.

24:00It's, I was a believer, you know, I was a believer and, um, interesting.

24:12I thought I was seeing, and not just you, but I thought there was other polygamists that

24:17I was seeing that, that were, um, you know, I thought happy maybe.

24:22Are you wondering if polygamists are happy?

24:25I don't think, well, I, probably none of them are.

24:30It's a lonely world.

24:32And I just, I don't really know quite why Robin is still holding onto it in a sense.

24:39I drive by Christine's old house every single day, every single day.

24:45I drive past Cody, Coyote Pass every single day.

24:48You know, this, this, the, this, this home is the last memories of our family during the,

24:54basically the breakup.

24:55Our last Christmas together, our last, uh, Thanksgiving together is all here.

24:59And the, the, the bitterness was already beginning then.

25:01I do not miss the drama of kind of that insecurity.

25:14I have seen families that can do polygamy and it just really depends on the man's character.

25:19The one that we all sort of know really well is Joe Darker.

25:23Joe Darker really is excellent with his kids and his family.

25:28Yeah, that's where Cody felt, I feel like.

25:31So the holiday season is here and everybody's starting to gather here in North Carolina.

25:41Even people that live far away are coming.

25:44So one thing when you have a big family, it's really hard to coordinate schedules and everybody's

25:48got a lot of plans.

25:48So we're getting together early this year.

25:51I have just moved to North Carolina from Utah and we have just got here at the property

25:57and we are going to cut down a Christmas tree from somewhere undecided at the moment.

26:04Say hi, Grandma.

26:05Hi, Grandma.

26:05Hi, Axel.

26:06Hi, Daddy.

26:07Hi, Evie.

26:09I think it's a cool idea to cut a tree down on our property.

26:12I understand it.

26:13I'm like, I don't know.

26:14It's cool.

26:15It's fun.

26:16I like the idea of it.

26:18I just am pregnant and I have a two-year-old and that was just like, wow, that's a lot.

26:22All right.

26:23Like, why not?

26:23We have all these trees.

26:25We don't have to pay for them even.

26:27What's the timeline on Tato Farms?

26:29So, well, we were supposed to start about two months ago.

26:31We were supposed to start planting.

26:33We hurry and get our permits in for the property so we can plant and it sits in limbo in the

26:37bureaucracy.

26:38Everybody's waiting on the other agency or they need something or they're like, they

26:41don't know.

26:41It's in the pile.

26:42It's whatever.

26:43Like, we're just waiting and waiting and waiting.

26:45We put a rush on it with the county at the beginning, end of October and they said two

26:49weeks.

26:49We have now lost our entire fall season.

26:51Like, we were going to be planted this fall.

26:53I had no idea this year.

26:55I thought this year was going to be very different.

26:56I thought we were going to move forward with the property.

26:57We'd be planting.

26:58Coyote Pass would be, like, we would agree.

27:00We'd sign all the paperwork.

27:02It's been a completely frustrating year in those two parts of my life.

27:07I can't get any traction.

27:09We're just sitting here.

27:10All right.

27:11Let's go find a tree.

27:12All right.

27:13Okay, Axel, we're going to go find a tree.

27:14Come on.

27:15Well, I mean, there's this one if you want to just take, see that one that's behind

27:18these oak or whatever it is.

27:20Okay, so my question is, when you chop it, how are you going to get it out of the brush?

27:24I got a chainsaw.

27:25I'm going to chop away, baby.

27:27So at one point, we were living in Montana, and he was cutting down a tree, maybe a few

27:32trees.

27:33I don't even know.

27:33Anyway, so we're up in the mountains.

27:35And I parked my truck in this certain place, and he's like, that's going to fall on the

27:38truck.

27:39And I'm like, eh, no, it's not.

27:41I'm pretty sure.

27:43He's like, no, it'll be fine.

27:44So he does his thing, and he cuts the little wedge in it and starts falling, and then he

27:49realizes, oh.

27:51So I cut it down and it falls on the truck.

27:53That one, that one, or that one?

27:57The one right in front of you, Maddie.

27:59That one I think is the best.

28:00All right, this is the tree, right?

28:09Yeah, chop it this way, please.

28:11So yeah, this is the first tree we've actually cut down on our property.

28:35Good job, bud.

28:39Payton's here, Savannah's here.

28:40It feels like, wow, there's actually like a family.

28:43There's family here now.

28:44Good job.

28:45So helpful.

28:45Wow, look at that.

28:51And, you know, Garrison's not going to be here this year.

28:53It's a very strange year.

28:55It's a strange year.

28:56Lots of new things, lots of new beginnings, and then some sad things, too.

28:59Michael grew up in plural marriage.

29:16Our dad had wives.

29:19I'm pretty sure his whole life he's been expecting to be in plural marriage.

29:24I mean, I've been talking you out of plural marriage for a while.

29:28What are your thoughts on that?

29:29I've been telling you.

29:29I don't know, Michael.

29:30You know, there's a lot of risk in plural marriage.

29:32I've never lived in plural marriage.

29:33For sure, for sure.

29:35Never going to happen.

29:35That's never going to happen.

29:36And maybe I held on to it for a while because of you.

29:40Dude, I got to tell you, this is the craziest thing.

29:43I had an epiphany just a little while ago.

29:45Dad, our father, was getting into plural marriage at the exact age that I started getting out of it.

29:54Now you bring up dad.

29:55I mean, maybe I held on to plural marriage for a while because of dad, too.

30:00Because you start out later in life with it, you might successfully pull it off.

30:05It's a different story.

30:06I mean, he went to his grave with three women that were madly in love with him.

30:12Dad with all of his faults.

30:15How the hell did that happen?

30:16Dude, I think it's, okay, let's just think of this.

30:19And I'm not being sexist, okay?

30:21Yeah.

30:21With just sheer damn manliness.

30:23Yeah.

30:23What do you think?

30:24Don't you think dad had some kind of attraction because he was just, I mean, he was angry and he was mean.

30:29But he was also extremely masculine.

30:32Yeah.

30:33Macho.

30:34And he was a cowboy.

30:36And that guy in the rain with a cowboy hat on, leading the horse, women were going hubba hubba.

30:44Janelle's mom told me the story of falling in love with my dad.

30:48She thinks it was love and I think it was just raw attraction.

30:53She saw a 53-year-old man busting his ass and it turned her on.

31:00And I'm not trying to be crass.

31:01That was raw attraction.

31:03I don't know what it is.

31:05I'm telling you because I hit an age where I really just, I just don't think they were into me anymore.

31:11To be fair, I go back and forth because I'm to a point where I don't want to blame polygamy anymore.

31:17But you make these connections that you assume are correct.

31:21And you do that sometimes when you're dating with marriage.

31:27You're sort of strangers until you're not.

31:29Would you have been interested in polygamy if I wouldn't have failed?

31:34Would you still be interested if my family wouldn't have failed in the polygamy thing?

31:38Um, you weren't the only one.

31:39I probably watched enough, enough failures that just, you know what, life's already tough.

31:47Maybe we don't need to make this any harder.

31:49All right, I think we've got everything.

31:55Hey, this is the last time in the house.

31:57I don't know what went wrong, but I know that I stirred up a jealousy.

32:02Dear Father in heaven, thank you for our blessings and for the special memories that we have shared here.

32:06My wives couldn't handle that I was willing to fight so much to make sure that Robin was safely kept.

32:13Maddie, do we have, Maddie, hello, Maddie, Maddie, do we have lights?

32:26We, I don't know, were they in the garage?

32:28I thought they were in the garage.

32:30Go check in the garage to see if there's, like, spools of lights.

32:33I read the Dargo's book.

32:34Was it good?

32:35It's actually cute.

32:37Because he actually loves all of his wives?

32:39One thing that the kids will sometimes bring to me is, like, well, playing me really doesn't work, right?

32:45And that's a very common thing that I hear from a lot of people.

32:49I have seen families that can do it, and it just really depends on the man's character.

32:54The one that we all sort of know really well is Joe Darker.

33:00And he has done such a good job managing his relationships with his wives.

33:04Yeah, that's where Cody felt, I feel like.

33:12Like, Joe Darker really is excellent with his kids and his family.

33:17Before we ever went public, I knew Joe Darker.

33:20And Joe had a really decent beginning of success, I think, because his wives were all culturally homogenous.

33:28They were related.

33:31They understood plural marriage from a perspective.

33:35And I think they've been very successful.

33:38Nice to see you.

33:39How are you?

33:40Did you switch up the hair?

33:41It was just a mess before, so.

33:45Joe married Alina and Vicky forever ago.

33:48And then years and years later, they'll marry Joe.

33:52That's Vicky's sister.

33:53There's architects and there's firemen.

33:56Architect, you have a plan, you have a master plan.

33:58You don't deviate from that, but you have a plan.

34:01And then there's firemen who are just constantly putting out fires and rescuing, rescuing and putting out fires and stuff.

34:06And Cody was a fireman, and Joe was an architect.

34:09And I think what happened with us was I felt like I was devoted to our family and to plural marriage.

34:15But then I struggled to be devoted specifically to every single wife, and vice versa.

34:22I don't think the wives were devoted to me or to each other as a whole.

34:28Got a great idea.

34:30You got it, Vicky?

34:31I got it.

34:32All right, here we go.

34:33We're going to put it right here in this corner.

34:38We can't be on the farm, so we're going to bring the farm to us this year.

34:42God, you guys are crazy.

34:44Who does this?

34:46This does not look rendic at all.

34:48No, it looks pretty all right.

34:50Are you being sarcastic?

34:51Very.

34:52The decorating is magical.

34:53It's a good memory.

34:55It's a good tradition.

34:55I would love to be part of the cutting down process next time.

34:59This is going to be a Charlie Brown Christmas tree.

35:01That's a problem.

35:02Charlie Brown was terrible.

35:04No, it wasn't.

35:04It was a terrible Christmas tree.

35:06What it symbolizes is the cool thing, that it's from our property, right?

35:11Hey!

35:12Come on, I think it's okay.

35:14We don't have a lot of confidence in this tree, but look, it's a symbol.

35:17It's a symbol.

35:19Wow, it looks pretty, huh?

35:21Oh!

35:22This, I feel like, kind of ties us to that property for this Christmas.

35:25Because now, next Christmas and all the Christmases after, we will be on the farm.

35:29All right, I think we've got everything.

35:36We've got to get out of here, yeah.

35:39All right, this is the last time in the house.

35:41Last time in this kitchen.

35:42Last time in this room.

35:44You guys feel funny about it?

35:48It always haunts me.

35:50This house, it always haunts me.

35:52Hey, you guys, are you all right now that we're leaving?

35:55Are you sad, Brianna?

36:01Um, I don't know how I feel.

36:02Really?

36:03Yeah.

36:04I don't know.

36:04I'm just shaking off the remorse.

36:10Just shaking it off, shaking it off.

36:12Every Christmas, every holiday, every birthday, everything.

36:15It feels like this sort of poison in me all the time, just this loss of this.

36:21So I'm like going, no, let's get over there.

36:23Like, we're finally going to get Thanksgiving and a Christmas where I'm not poisoned by the memory of the past ruining my present.

36:36Oh, I'm just, I'm just tired.

36:39And I'm not sad, but I'm kind of emotional about leaving.

36:45Yeah.

36:46You?

36:47Yeah.

36:49Yeah.

36:51Dear Father in heaven, thank you.

36:53Thank you for our blessings and for the special memories that we have shared here.

36:57Thank you for this beautiful home that has been our haven, our safety from the outside world.

37:03Thank you for the shared times and the shared memories.

37:07I'm going to tell you, I don't know what went wrong, but I know that I stirred up a jealousy putting her in this house.

37:15Is this, this is the one that has five bedrooms?

37:18This has five bedrooms, yeah.

37:20Oh, look at this.

37:21Your dining room set would fit in here.

37:23Are you really serious about this place?

37:25My wives, in whatever way, couldn't handle that I was willing to fight so much to make sure that Robin was safely kept.

37:34What do you think, sweetie?

37:36Love this rocking chair.

37:37You love this rocking chair?

37:39Oh, that's your room?

37:41That's my TV room.

37:42That's your TV room?

37:43Dude, this sink is awesome.

37:45I'm sorry.

37:48There's things that you do as a polygamist that you have to do to make another wife feel like, well, how's that fair for me?

37:56Thank you, Father in heaven, for our blessings.

37:58And thank you for this experience as we finish this part of our journey.

38:03In the name of Messiah, Jesus Christ, amen.

38:05Amen.

38:06All right.

38:07Well, we better get going.

38:08All right.

38:08So, I kind of did my own goodbye by myself.

38:27Because it's one of the last places that we were all there as a family.

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