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00:00Do you feel like there's momentum here that Netflix is kind of moving towards a deal?
00:05You know, I think that it's a smart move for them to look at the books of Warner.
00:10They have they lose nothing by doing the due diligence and looking at Warner's business model.
00:15I think Wall Street would be supportive of Netflix using its very valuable equity to buy the studios.
00:22I do not think Wall Street would be amused if they tried to buy the linear TV networks.
00:26And I think that, you know, I think there's a disagreement within Netflix.
00:29You're right that when I last saw you, Greg Peters was like, hard.
00:32No, we don't want to look at these assets.
00:34Ted Sarando's body language on his earnings call was much more open, probably because he's the content guy.
00:39And Warner Brothers has some of the best IP in the deepest library of any studio.
00:44And once you own the IP, you never have to pay to rent it again.
00:47So it's really hard to keep creating brand new IP.
00:50You may as well get some that has an installed base of fandom from 50 the last 50 years.
00:55And Warner Brothers has some of the most next to the Walt Disney Company.
00:58So should Netflix do it?
01:01I think it depends on price.
01:03Because it is contentious within Wall Street, it depends on price.
01:06And I get the sense that Warner Brothers really wants to sell dear because they have this idea that if they split in half,
01:13they're going to get $26, $27 a share of total value.
01:16I don't believe that.
01:17But if they believe that, then that means that they're going to try to overcharge Netflix.
01:21And I will be I don't know that Wall Street that Netflix would be over to pay for the studio assets here.
01:28Who else?
01:29I mean, we've talked about Comcast.
01:31I mean, who else could be, you know, a really big competitor here for Warner Brothers?
01:36So I think, you know, my opinion is the way this plays out is everybody looks at the books.
01:43Everybody gets the inside scoop on what's happening at Warner Brothers, because why not?
01:47You're competing against them.
01:49And then the price and then they buy a try to buy a piece like Comcast tries to buy linear or Netflix tries to buy.
01:55And I'm not sure they are regulatively approvable, except for Larry Ellison, who is Donald Trump's goods friend.
02:02So I think all of this is in in the end, a way to get Larry Ellison, David Ellison, to get their price up to match whoever else is bidding.
02:13But I think that's Ellison's are the only ones that can get this to regulatory, in my opinion.
02:17What ends up happening to the linear stuff over at Warner Brothers?
02:21Well, Ellison has said he's willing to buy the whole thing.
02:23So that solves that.
02:24They just sell the whole thing.
02:25Because he can get regulatory approval.
02:28Oh, OK.
02:29God, it's fascinating.
02:31I think we'll have Laura back on before this.
02:33And still, like, our first question will be a month from now about this potential deal.
02:36I know.
02:37I know.
02:37I know.
02:38Is there any pressure to get this thing done sooner rather than later?
02:42No.
02:42I mean, the CEO, Zaslav, is trying to make pressure because he's saying, oh, in April, we're going to split it in two pieces.
02:48But it's an arbitrary deadline.
02:49He can push that off to June or September.
02:51You know, I don't agree that the two pieces spun off alone will be worth $26 or $27.
02:59So, but that's his stocking horse is this artificial timing deadline he set.
03:04So, let's say Netflix doesn't get this.
03:07And I promise we're going to ask you about more stuff, Laura.
03:09But let's say Netflix doesn't get assets from Warner Brothers.
03:12What would be its next move in content IP?
03:16What should it do?
03:17So, what I think it's doing, interesting things with advertising, interesting things with video games.
03:22It's going into short form, which is smart.
03:24It's backing creators, which is smart influencers.
03:28It's moving into the YouTube businesses and, like, socially connected people.
03:32It's doing physical.
03:34You saw it's doing physical around K-pop.
03:37It's number one film of all time.
03:39Physical outlets, the way Disney does, but they're doing pop-ups.
03:42It's a much smaller, you know, a much smaller vision than the Disney vision of theme parks.
03:47So, they're doing a lot of things that are trying to maximize revenue from their IP.
03:52I would like to see them buy a library, but I don't want to see them overpay for a library.
03:57Okay, last one on Netflix.
03:58Announcing yesterday a 10-for-1 stock split.
04:01The split-adjusted basis trade is expected to begin on November 17th.
04:05Shares up 2.7% as we speak.
04:07I'm like a big, hey, this doesn't change the fundamentals of the stock.
04:09So, I have a hard time ever understanding.
04:12He poo-pooed it.
04:13Yeah, I do.
04:13Whenever a company does a stock split like this.
04:16Your thoughts on the stock split.
04:17Do you care?
04:18Oh, super smart.
04:19This is a retail company, and people should be able to give.
04:23You know, when I was a kid, at five years old, my grandmother always gave me five shares of the Walt Disney Company,
04:29which we should deliver in a frame, which are still on my walls, every birthday for five years,
04:34until I was 10 years old and wanted a different thing, dresses or something.
04:37So, they should be doing that with Netflix shares.
04:39And this should be accessible to the public that wants to be supportive in the capital markets,
04:44on a retail, like retail investors, of the fact they love Stranger Things.
04:48It's another way to sort of give a feedback loop to Netflix about the good work they're doing.
04:52So, I'm very supportive.
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